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    Jokubas_stalmokas Member Post Number: 132 Registered: 01-2011 |
"If you look deep enough into a problem you will find out that part of the problem is yourself" randomly recalled. | ||
Phi_spiral Member Post Number: 187 Registered: 04-2020 |
Hendrikus - I was not addressing my post to you are even about you. It was because that I thought you might think so, that I wrote at the beginning: "Not to drag up the discussion with Hendrikus again ...and to transition back to the topic at hand: "New ideas to help the mission improve.") Sorry I did not make that more clear. I was trying to convey that I was moving on to something else. On the contrary, I have a great deal of respect for you. Your quote from Krishnamurti is exactly what I was trying to convey: “If we can really understand the problem, the answer will come out of it, because the answer is not separate from the problem.” So my post was my attempt and my input at really trying to understand the prevalent problem of why humans both in general and more specifically in the US are not motivated to change because they don't believe that change is possible. There are, of course, other dynamics at work, which we are not aware of. The infamous "..." which appear in the contact notes for instance. And of course, the individual's previous incarnation experiences. I never used the word 'depression'. When I used 'trauma' in the sentence, "Layers and layers of trauma are built into this country..", I was referring to the US and the totality of its' turmoils; recent school shootings; Roe v Wade and the abortion debate; the coup attempt at the US Capitol; the 9/11 events; US conflicts in Afghanistan, Iraq and Vietnam; the Cuban missile crisis; a dysfunctional pattern that goes all the way back to the great Civil War and even beyond that. I did not realize that you, too, lived in the US, I was thinking that you were in Europe. My apologies. I think you can see now that I meant you no offense or insult. Bob | ||
Eddieamartin Member Post Number: 1489 Registered: 08-2010 |
Hendrikus, How on Earth did you take Bob's post to be anything about you or towards you??? Salome, Eddie In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says: Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3) | ||
Reen71b Member Post Number: 99 Registered: 09-2020 |
@Hendrikus1970 Regarding your post 142. What exactly is your purpose for coming onto this forum? Are you here because you're a follower of the teachings of the truth or are you here to curtail any attempts at peace? Maureen | ||
Hendrikus1970 Member Post Number: 146 Registered: 04-2009 |
Maureen, it always was to get more knowledge. Stay positive is hard if you see people around you dying and the prophecies are fulfilling. I simple dont agree on how the Ps and this high council are handeling this. 7 times the so called dark forces group,falsified the teachings of the Prophets. And now again this is whats happening. As for Bob,im sorry. I was a bit rude. From now on i will stay quiet to not disturb the positive vibes here in this community I'm sorry if I offended anyone Salomé | ||
Reen71b Member Post Number: 100 Registered: 09-2020 |
@Hendrikus1970 Maybe if you tried focusing on reading the Goblet Of Truth, you'd get a better understanding of why they handle things the way they do. It's very hard to focus on anything when you're allowing yourself to become overly emotional. Something earth humans have difficulty controlling. Try pumping the brakes when you feel yourself building up with these negative emotions. We are all susceptible to this. Maureen | ||
Mosaki Member Post Number: 28 Registered: 01-2015 |
Hendrikus, Michael has more subscribers than that. Instead of constantly whining and trying to demean Michael, someone who is actually trying to help humanity, why don't you focus on yourself and the neutral-positive actions you can take to make some real changes in the world. Salome, Melissa Osaki | ||
Hendrikus1970 Member Post Number: 147 Registered: 04-2009 |
Melissa Osaki, Instead of constantly whining and trying to demean Michael ? im not demeaning anybody here ! Its even so i complimented mr Horn many times,but does that mean i need to agree with all? The way you act with Mr Meier? accept and repeat all without thinking for yourselfs? I should make some real changes in the world ? ç And i do that by writting to an assistant or clerk of a secretary ? I tried that in 2010,11 12 13 14 but then found out that this mails never reach the person in question. Who it does reach is the stuppid religious secretary or clerc that trows in in the bin. I only say that its very illogical and that their are some things that simply dont ad up. I only get pissed of when its people like you or mr Horn that every single time a critical question is asked about the solution then you both and a few others come with the same frase about self responsibility. But like i said before,its useless because its far to late to stop whats coming. Its like most of the members here say,study and make sure your in peace with yourselfs. Salome | ||
Eddieamartin Member Post Number: 1490 Registered: 08-2010 |
Hello Hendrikus I understand your frustrations, they are valid, but we have to focus on the new and the better-than-before. Life is a constant learning experience. It's better to try than not try. Has every approach tried been successful? Of course not. Hence the Thread Heading "New Ideas to help the mission improve"... emphasis on "New Ideas". What are your thoughts on the following? (It's about to be underway soon) https://beam2eng.blogspot.com/2017/03/spiritual-teaching-peoples.html?fbclid=IwAR2-u03OZWX_q5o3F5o7LJLisCX_6Ij4aRYgaPvdDLrmQQ32tgCV5KIFy94 Salome, Eddie In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says: Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3) | ||
Reen71b Member Post Number: 101 Registered: 09-2020 |
I know some of us mean well with the advice we're sharing with Hendrikus. The best thing he can do right now is work on himself and sort out his own feelings. I see the struggle in him. And I think we can all relate to his reasons for his anger. Who wouldn't be at the state of this planet? Who wouldn't be with the way people are out of control with their own heightened emotions? All the more reasons why he should work on himself (as we all should be) and getting those emotions under the best possible control. This is something I myself find that I have to pay attention to every waking moment. Because even one single moment of complacency can cause a wrong reaction. So, I think we all should be supportive (without coddling) and helpful instead of reactive. I myself need a reminder now and then. Maureen | ||
Mosaki Member Post Number: 29 Registered: 01-2015 |
I find it strange that you constantly blame Billy and the Plejaren but never look around and see the ill-thought-out actions of your fellow Earth Humans. No one here is repeating Billy word for word. The folks who study the Creation-energy teaching have an understanding of what Billy teaches and they possess a knowing of its legitimacy. In other words, we don't believe or follow anything, we know. It would be more productive for you take responsibility for your own contributions to the mess we're in and start doing something productive to help the mission. Repetition is the key, so when you don't get a response to a letter or email, move on to the next person. Every single person matters, and together we can make real changes that will one day bear fruit. If we sit around only whining and complaining, the bulk of the Prophecies will surely come to pass. Salome, Melissa Osaki | ||
Hendrikus1970 Member Post Number: 148 Registered: 04-2009 |
Melissa Osaki, i hear all the time that the Ps are trying to help us for the past 13.000 years. What help is that ? They just give us predictions of the world ending and all kinds of bad things, Make contact reports saying for example A vengeful american that is making a virus that wil kill millions of humans if we dont stop him or wake up,but i wont say who this is to protect who? And this is all the time the same bs The minute it gets important they put in dots ..... so we can start guesing and looking for a vengull American ? The >CRs from day one talk about what might happen if we dont listen and wake up. But only recently we find out about the Blue race or the dark forces. Yes they mention this before but always with .... the famous dots Thats a hard find because the US was build on killling. The Ps only talk with one person they say, But what about Sadam Housein.Haile Selassie,zimmerman and and and . They tried to contact the US leaders in the 60s but failed. We are not ready but we where ready in 60s and 70s? What help they gave us besides the teachings of the spirit that maybe 100.000 people follow because the rest dont know its there or who Eduard Meier is . Here is a post of MR Horn and a women called Lora Chamberlain and a Man called Joe Ottawa and they are saying what i think about this also. https://theyflyblog.com/2022/04/biden-zelensky-eu-leaders-push-for-nuclear-war/comment-page-1/#comments One thing more i say about this If Eduard is scared that this group wil kill him wich they tried before as he says ,then i would ask the Ps to protect him with some kind of shield or whatever. | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 3642 Registered: 12-1999 |
Hendrikus1970, You stated "What help is that" With the help of the Plejaren, Billy has been able to travel in time to witness events and report back to us about history and how many of the things we have been taught to be true may not be as history portrays them. On his own, I don't think Billy would have been able to achieve these cognitions as easily. The Plejarens have provided health information and the overpopulation problem with exact figures which are denied or highly underestimated by earth leaders. They have pointed out the ozone hole and the dangers which were unknown at the time. According to the information they have provided "impulses' to scientists and other people which has accelerated our evolution and allowed us to have the internet as we are now using to have these discussions. Yes they have pointed out things in our history and our current world situation which are negative, but we cannot deny these things seem to be true.... I think when the Plejaren have stated they are only in contact with Billy only, I think this refers to contacts on a consistent basis. Yes, they have been in contact with certain earth people, but only for very specific reasons. Scott | ||
Hendrikus1970 Member Post Number: 149 Registered: 04-2009 |
denied or highly underestimated by earth leaders ? Or is it brainwashed,incompetent and stuck in beliefs and stuck in the system they are in? And how many important people with real influence know the BEAM case? Other thing you pointed out is that they have provided "impulses' to scientists and other people which has accelerated our evolution Did they give impulses to Bill Gates also or Fauci? About that impulses and contact with certain people. Why did they not contact people that have real influence? Example is that senator Rand Paul who seeems to be a honest guy,or Tulsi Gabbard If they know that media,politics and big biss are where the influence realy is then i dont understand they pick who they picked ( Besides Mr Meier ofcourse) So insted of Prophets that kick against the systeem and powerfull ones,work from the inside to change minds Up to now that powerfull groups or darkforces where able to create religions out of the teachings. History repeating itself over and over | ||
Reen71b Member Post Number: 102 Registered: 09-2020 |
@Hendrikus1970 They Plejaran very well could've sent impulses to those people. However, people still have the freedom to choose what to do with those impulses. No one is compelled to do anything. It is not how freedom works. We cannot be forced into making peaceful decisions. If it was forced, at some point, we would rebel and it would backfire. It's no different than someone giving helpful advice. In the end, it is us who decide what we do with out lives. If you seek to argue and not to understand then you will continue this cycle of constantly looking for an argument in everything. You seem to have more rebuttals for everything rather than taking a few days or more to think about what is being said. In order to have a good discussion, both sides must be heard. But, you are listening to respond rather than listening to understand. Maureen | ||
Hendrikus1970 Member Post Number: 150 Registered: 04-2009 |
Maureen, thanks i wil shut up and listen to you,and then i will try thinking about what is being said to me. And then maybe one day i understand what you guys are girls are telling me and maybe i then have the same wisdom as you and te rest of the students. Salome, Hendrikus | ||
Reen71b Member Post Number: 103 Registered: 09-2020 |
@Hendrikus1970 You don't have to listen to a thing I have to say. You don't have to listen to anyone if you don't want to. I don't believe for a minute that you are here to curtail any attempts at peace. When I made that comment before, I was trying to see if you'd actually stop for a minute and......think. You're too wrapped up in your emotions at the moment to do anything but vent. So, if at any time that you decide to step away from this forum, I truly hope you think long and hard about everything. Preferably, with a clear and calm head. I don't consider myself full of wisdom or even wise. I may be one step ahead of population by the fact that I let go of the lies and I acknowledge and accept the truth, but that doesn't make me wiser or more knowledgeable than anyone else. I am still making my mistakes along the way. I hope that you find calm and peace along your journey. Maureen | ||
Mosaki Member Post Number: 30 Registered: 01-2015 |
Hendrikus, Do you ever notice the lack of blame in your comments for all the world leaders, politicians, celebrities, and general masses? According to you, the Plejaren failed at every attempt to help the dimwitted Earth humans. While that's demonstrably not true, why do you think they failed in some areas? It wasn't due to their lack of thinking and logic. It was due to ours, the people you never blame. Your constant complaining is getting you nowhere. It is my hope that you will finally hear what others here are trying to explain to you. When you begin to work on yourself, everything else will fall into place and then you will also start to see reality. If you keep yourself stuck in this constant negativity, it will continue to get worse. Your anger and frustration will keep going up and up and eventually you'll only feel bitter. Creating peace inside yourself is the first step towards spreading peace amongst your circle of family and friends. That peace continues to spread outward like a Fibonacci spiral. It's like when Billy talks about the snowball effect or the constant dripping of water on a stone. It may take a long time but striving to better yourself will eventually bear fruit. In case you haven't noticed, neutral-positive energy becomes contagious to others, and they will also want to strive for what you have. Have you ever been around someone who is negative all the time? It can be exhausting and drain you of your own energy. The same principle applies when you are around someone who is balanced, except you find yourself feeling good and wanting more of that energy. Salome, Melissa Osaki | ||
Hendrikus1970 Member Post Number: 151 Registered: 04-2009 |
Melissa Osaki, its you people that dont listen,i try to find solutions of stopping this darkforces or fake wanderes that is are the cause of the mess we are in. ( a newsflash, its not Trample Trump ) Its also them preventing the world to know the truth about BEAM. Its them that tried to kill Eduard many times. People wil remain brainwashed if this group or groups are not stopped. Its all about self preservation and waiting on them to start ww4 or only meditating on this problem wont help much. Meditating might help your inner peace ,but it wont save the people and planet. im not negative or a negative person I have peace in myself and i love and know myself and love the things i do. Im not te problem here,i studied a read a lot of good books that are avaible to people with less money,so i dont need the 50,60 and 70 euro books I learned a lot from the truly amazing man it was :;Jiddu Krishnamurti From what i was able to read and see from Mr Meier ,his work is very similair. On youtube there are mayne vids of this man explaining al,he was a philosopher, speaker and writer and a very wise man You say ( According to you, the Plejaren failed at every attempt to help the dimwitted Earth humans. While that's demonstrably not true ) Yes they demonstrated how they helped create religions out of the teachings of al prophets. They helped with what exactly then ? Remove the Giza afther tousend of years of brainwashing? Bring devastating prophecies-predictions that only a few people without power see? 14.000 years and they are not even able to have rep in each country and each language so that the teachings are avaible to everybody? Maybe they are just terible planners,if i knew what they knew then why would i let people die of hunger ? Why would i even let them make a nuclair bomb and then drop 2 of them on people Aks you again ,what ecaxtly did they do to help us out all this tousends of years? i wonder now also about the other 7 prophets. Did they writte books or how did they try to wake up people in that times ? or did they just walk around with their diciples, in the neighborhood they lived in at that time Salome, | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 3643 Registered: 12-1999 |
Please let's get back to the Topic Heading. Thank you | ||
Hendrikus1970 Member Post Number: 152 Registered: 04-2009 |
Hi Scott, that's exactly what this is right? | ||
Pkf823 Member Post Number: 10 Registered: 10-2019 |
Yesterday, there was a question coming out of my head. Is FIGU going to establish new countries or depart from the existed countries in the future? However, the answer came out of my head today. There will be no countries or country-liked orgnizations in the future on the earth. Every person will be able to jion in FIGU or FIGU-liked communities even establish one. Am I right? | ||
Joseph_emmanuel Member Post Number: 486 Registered: 05-2004 |
PKF823 FIGU isn't in the business of establishing new countries. It's promoting itself to all existing countries. Anyone can join FIGU as long as they have access to the Internet. I suppose a free community of interests will grow as time passes. But I don't think the idea is to "occupy" or "colonise" countries. It's not a religion. |
