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Rick Nelson
Posted on Thursday, November 30, 2000 - 12:42 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello,

Playing devil's advocate here, shouldn't there be copious evidence, through the presence of background radiation, to document the worldwide atomic devastation 8,000 years ago? I'm no scientist, but isn't the half-life of heavy radioactive elements very substantial, into the tens-of-thousands of years? Just curious.

Peace,

Rick Nelson
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Anthea
Posted on Thursday, November 30, 2000 - 05:33 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Everyone :)

As far as my understanding goes - according to Creational law it is a duty for higher evolved beings to assist lesser evolved beings in their development.

Under these same laws, the Plejarens are prevented from direct interference in Earth matters where such interference would not be beneficial for our evolution as a mankind.

Again, as far as I understand, the only time that the Plejarens would conceivably interfere directly, is if a course of action threatens cosmic space. For instance, if Earth mankind blows the planet Earth to nonexistence with atomic warfare, an event like this would have disastrous consequences throughout the Universe. In a case such as this, direct interference by a higher developed race of beings would be considered an act of self preservation under natural law.

Kind Regards,
Anthea
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Scott Baxter
Posted on Friday, December 01, 2000 - 12:17 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello Anthea

I agree this would be disasterous if the madness on this planet reached a state whereas we blew ourselves up which in turn upset the balance of our system as well as others.

What I dont understand is how were the inhabitants on Malona allowed to blow themselves up as well as our Lyrian ancestors millions of years ago? These events to me seemed to have the potential of a giant cataclysmic catastrophe.

Maybe as a result of these events the creation of the Federation of planets was created to thwart the possibilities of this occurring?

Salome
Scott
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Memo00
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Posted on Tuesday, November 16, 2004 - 05:41 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hi to all

i hope you are doing fine

i know it may be something insignificant, but

in the FIGU booklet "Attacking questions from
Japan" when it speaks about the 144 thousand, it is written 144,228, not 144,207

which one is correct???
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Incredible
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Posted on Sunday, June 17, 2007 - 02:09 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Anthea:
An atomic war have not the sufficient energy to blow a planet like the earth.

Is unimaginably bigger the energy that the earth receive from the sun in one day that all the energy used by the earth human in 1 year with all the atomic tests together.

If an atomic war happen, simply the life on earth will vanish, but the earth will remain.

I don't think that that situation (atomic war)would drive the plejaran confederation to intervene here.
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Incredible
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Posted on Saturday, June 30, 2007 - 11:05 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If we exterminate ourselves in an atomic war the plejarans will not interfere with our destiny.

They simply will wait some thousands years for the world to become inhabitable and then, they will take this world as a second home.

The civilization that auto destroy in a war and become extinct has proves that such civilization are not sufficiently intelligent to stay in existence.

So...that civilization auto destroy herself to leave the path open for a better and more competent civilization.

This is the hard words of the reality.
"we born to die and we die to born"
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Scott
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Posted on Saturday, June 30, 2007 - 01:10 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Please lets get back on topic, this subject is regarding the booklet "Attacking Questions from Japan"
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Wolverine
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Posted on Monday, September 07, 2009 - 12:07 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi, Anthea. Are you Afrikaner? I am also Afrikaner.
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Wolverine
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I have many information about Ancient flying cars and aircrafts in Nordern India. The Aryans had flying cars and aircrafts. There was an atomic Bomb who destroyted the City past 4,000 years ago. Many died were there.
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Brentb
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Posted on Saturday, April 16, 2011 - 11:47 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I believe the Earth washes much away very quickly. The half life might be long, but the radiation might be undetectable to our current interments if it happened thousands of years ago.
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Cpl
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Posted on Wednesday, September 07, 2016 - 09:00 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Forum members often cite that we are 800 years away from the good times, when the teaching is accepted on Earth. To be sure itfs near that figure, but we are no longer 800 years away from the acceptance of the teachings. This booklet "Attacking Questions from Japan" makes this clear.

The 800 years was mentioned in 1958, which, if taken literally, means we are this year 2016 actually 746 years away from acceptance of the teachings:

800 plus 1958 = 2758.
And 2758 - 2016 = 742 years

"This will present sufficient reason for terrestrials to build, furbish and fly new spaceships with even greater ranges into the vastness of space, to make ever greater, more interesting and, especially, more significant discoveries. Initially, these spaceships will travel over relatively long periods of time until propulsion systems are developed that make super-speed space travel without timeshifts feasible. Spaceships reaching velocities above the speed of light, indeed, speeds several million times the speed of light, will one day become the rule. But until this occurs, several hundreds of years, even millennia, will pass....
Terrestrial humanity already under the spell of religions and religious sects at this time, will remain spellbound for several more centuriesh (CN 251 in 1995).

Here too, with the confirming passage, appearing to also reference our current fears of WW III and "the rebellious terrorists" (sentence 120).

Prophecies & Predictions. Eduard A. Meier, Switzerland, 1958.
1. My eyes and mind see things of the future which will take place from today, the year 1958, and therefore will bec.
120. However the Third Millennium will also be the time when people will be frightened of the future because the world political, military and environmental situation will be very precarious because the national powers of the USA and Israel in the same way threaten with war and destruction as, worldwide, will also the rebellious terrorists, and in addition, because humans have so terribly plundered, raped and desecrated nature, it will hit back with violent seaquakes and earthquakes and with monstrous rainstorms and primeval stormsc.
139. And the time will be long before all this all comes to pass, a long time into the Third Millennium - long, 800 years long, because, first then, the seeds of the teachings of the spirit, the teachings of Creation and its laws and directives, as well as the teachings of life, will slowly begin to germinate in the mass of humankind, because they slowly open their eyes and ears, and honestly begin to seek the actual truth.

Yet we are even a few years closer still to our next contact with ET races. In 1990 in CN 235 we read in the booklet "Attacking questions from Japan" Ptaah saying on page 26, when explaining how there are no other contacts apart from Billy even going forward in time several hundred years:

"Any further contacts, however -- and this has been clearly determined by the Observers of Time -- will not take place over the next 761 years....In this sense, therefore, you will be the only and last contactee for the next 761 years."
Billy says, "I don't quite understand this, for you have previously told me that this status was going to be only temporary."
Thereupon Ptaah confirms the figure again: "That is correct. But I am speaking within the framework of our time concepts. For the comprehension by human beings on Earth, it appears as though I will have to explain that the present, within the time frame I have mentioned, includes the terrestrial term 'future.' It must be explained, therefore, that in the future, during the next 761 years, there will be no further contacts between human beings on Earth and the extraterrestrial and spiritually more highly evolved life forms, let alone the high spiritual planes, in the sense where such contacts are understood to be correlated to the teachings that pertain to the spiritual evolution." Ptaah did mention that even so "encounters with extraterrestrial life forms will take place now and then; and that sightings of extraterrestrial flying objects will be made."

The math again is simple:
761 plus 1990 equals 2751, which is 735 years from this year 2016.
2016 + 735 = 2751.

So, we can conclude from these passages that we will remake contact with extraterrestrials regarding the "teachings that pertain to the spiritual evolution" 735 years from now and that the teaching will be accepted in 742 years. So once our ET friends return in 735 years it will be just 7 more years until the teaching is becoming accepted on the Earth.

Our future spirit and OCB incarnations can look forward to meeting our ET friends in 735 years in 2751 and for the spiritual teaching to become accepted in 2758 in 742 years.

The countdown is on.

BTW the above 761 years section from CN 235 I have quoted from my copy of the booklet "Attacking questions from Japan" page 26. It is not on futureofmankind.
Chris

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Corey
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Posted on Wednesday, September 07, 2016 - 03:04 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Chris (Cpl), what about this?

http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_424

"Contacts with earthlings do not take place, and apart from the contact with you, no other contacts exist. That will only change when other beings foreign to earth land openly and take up contacts, which will only happen then when we have left." -Ptaah
mental-block: consciousness, thoughts, feelings, psyche.
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ratio: intellect, rationality, sageness (true discernment), morals. "The Psyche" page 216
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Corey
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Posted on Wednesday, September 07, 2016 - 03:52 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Chris (Cpl): I think the clock for the 800 years may start after Billy's death, what do you think? I have often wondered how literal to take this passage.

"When the millennium in which the new time prophet dies draws to an end, and when 800 years pass after his death, human beings will have come so far to open their eyes and ears that they will be capable of seeing and hearing..."

http://www.theyfly.com/1989-predictions-prophets-jeremia-and-elia
mental-block: consciousness, thoughts, feelings, psyche.
consciousness-block: character, personality, subconsciousness, ego, memory. "Teaching Script" page 124
ratio: intellect, rationality, sageness (true discernment), morals. "The Psyche" page 216
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Corey
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Posted on Wednesday, September 07, 2016 - 04:04 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Chris (Cpl): one more thing, regarding potential ET/terrestrial contacts, what about this in contact 251, written after the one in your booklet (I own this booklet too, but did not investigate it as thoroughly as you have)?
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Billy: I know, but, unfortunately, this essential factor does not seem to exist. What about future contacts with extraterrestrials, may we speak about them now?

Ptaah: Unfortunately this remains impossible. Nonetheless, I am, or rather you are, permitted to reveal that new events will soon occur.

Billy: You mean the fact that time is fast approaching when official contacts with extraterrestrials will take place?

Ptaah: Of course. I have told you about them. In times to come, many things will occur and changes ensue with regard to extraterrestrial aircraft, their crews as well as terrestrial, mysterious and exotic-looking flying craft. Extraterrestrial contacts may be expected, but they will be completely different from the current contacts that these many lying, deceitful and fraudulent would-be contactees have portrayed them to be through their religious-sectarian absurdities and other things. Immensely significant new discoveries are also forthcoming that will take place on Earth, on the Moon, Mars and beyond, as you have previously stated and extensively revealed in your 23-page report without mentioning the specific dates for particular events.

http://www.theyfly.com/1995-contact-251
mental-block: consciousness, thoughts, feelings, psyche.
consciousness-block: character, personality, subconsciousness, ego, memory. "Teaching Script" page 124
ratio: intellect, rationality, sageness (true discernment), morals. "The Psyche" page 216
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Cpl
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Posted on Wednesday, September 07, 2016 - 09:59 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Corey,

CR 251 is a bit difficult, isn't it? We know that some of the events in this CR have changed due to Sirian events on Mars and the change with the Destroyer that will now never return here. So I see it all as a bit too vague to see anything definitive on future contacts in CR 251.

Re CR 424: Yes, that is quite right. There were those contacts that were to occur around 2000 -2001 but which then did not due to the rise of terrorists, if nothing else. A lot changed after the attacks of 2001. Mostly this Japan booklet is talking about the fantasized or falsified contacts of wannabe contactees, as I see it.

Also the ET meetings 735 years hence is in relation to the spiritual teaching and implies also contact with "spiritually more highly evolved life forms." Perhaps we will have run ins with some ETs but not on a teaching level. Wasn't there mention of ETs actually making contact to help those that would be oppressed by corrupt Western powers? To me that sounded a bit like the proverbial boss coming in and giving us a bit of a bellyaching more than anything else. Don't recall where that was written.

The impression I get is that the ET contacts in the Japan booklet refer to the future Plejaren contacts with a future incarnation of the Nokodemion spirit form, though it doesn't specifically say that.
Chris

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Cpl
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Posted on Wednesday, September 07, 2016 - 10:10 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Corey,

I think that 800 years implies, to me at least, 800 years after Billy's death the world will have accepted the teaching, which begins a few decades earlier, and that they are now ready for greater things as they are rapidly developing and opening their eyes.

So I see this "800" sentence as referring to just after the renewed ET contact and our beginning of global acceptance of the spiritual teaching. So a little bit further on, maybe some decades. It will doubtless all take a few decades just as it is in our lifetimes as the Silent Revolution of Truth germinates.
Chris

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Cpl
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Posted on Wednesday, September 21, 2016 - 10:17 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Billy mentioned the latest major human addition to our planet was 26,004 years ago this year (exactly 26,000 years in 2012 calculated from the CR date). This was the last armada of the yellow peoples to arrive here.

Yesterday on the front page of the Japan Times was a picture of the recently discovered "World's oldest fishhooks" discovered in an Okinawan cave in Japan. The fishhooks date back 23,000 years. Some people expressed surprise that the ancients knew how to make fishhooks just as well as us back then. Researcher Fujita said, "It's amazing to know that the fishing technique that we have now could be the same as the one in ancient times."

Well, if the Japanese had just prior (given the 10% possible error in carbon dating) arrived here it makes perfect sense and a fascinating find.
See: http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2016/09/20/national/history/worlds-oldest-fishhooks-found-okinawa/#.V-Nj7I9OKUk.

Wasn't sure whether to post this in the natural world section. Moderators, feel free to share it there too, or instead, if there is interest.
Chris

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Kenneth
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Posted on Thursday, September 22, 2016 - 12:34 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

CPL,

Thats very interesting indeed. You touched on something here; most of the Earthly population believe that they are the most advanced humans to have lived on Earth and do not realize that their ancient-ancient ancestors actually flew in from other worlds.

Kenneth
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Corey
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Cpl (Chris),

I found this passage in GOTT, which is a book people could be reading to prepare for future times:

25:146: "So in the expanses of the universe you will also find new worlds, fly to them and open them up for yourselves, as you will also come into contact with foreign people from foreign worlds, and connect yourselves with them you shall think this over."

25:146: "So werdet ihr in den Weiten des Universums auch neue Welten finden, zu ihnen hinfliegen und sie für euch erschliessen, wie ihr auch mit fremden Menschen fremder Welten in Kontakt kommen werdet und ihr euch mit ihnen verbündet darüber sollt ihr nachdenken."
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I took advantage of the time the Q & A was historically open to ask Billy his opinion of future contacts between terrestrial humanity, and extraterrestrials:

Question: "Dear Billy and Christian,

According to television and the movies, ET's are a threat to our existence, and we need to fear war and enslavement. Also ET's are usually depicted as monsters, not human like we are, (see 441st contact). Your material is a blending of warnings about negative ET's such as contact 463, yet positive information such as Goblet 25:146. We will probably enslave ourselves if one considers the future dictatorships, bio-chipping (see: biometric identification system/Satz 40 from "Warnung an alle Regierungen Europas!"), and future surveillence over every single citizen, so any future liberation may have to come from the our people against future earthly enslaving governments and sciences and the like, instead of needing liberation from an oppressive ET race.

Now my question is: Do you think our first experiences with extraterrestrials will be negative, or positive, or a combination of both, or does it all really depend on future Earth human actions and decisions and the law of cause and effect (negative earth actions = negative encounters with ET's, postive earth actions = positive encounters with ET's)?
Salome
Corey

Answer: "Of course this depends on the future Earth humans actions, but based on the actual situation here on the planet the experiences could be negative, especially based on or caused by the terrestrial side.

Apropos monsters: The real monsters are currently living here on Earth. For example they can be found in Israel, Palestine, Syria, Iraq, and many other countries, and also here in Europe in the EU among those who secretly have decided to reinstall the death penalty."

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This answer may be studied in depth by future terrestrial humanity if (emphasis on "if") any future ET contacts will take place in a (far off?) future time if Billy has passed first. Hopefully terrestrial paranoia subsides, and terrestrial humanity can constrain our volatile natures at this time.

"Goblet of the Truth" verse 25:146 found on page 455 of the book/copyright FIGU/BEAM.

mental-block: consciousness, thoughts, feelings, psyche.
consciousness-block: character, personality, subconsciousness, ego, memory. "Teaching Script" page 124
ratio: intellect, rationality, sageness (true discernment), morals. "The Psyche" page 216
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Cpl
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Posted on Monday, October 03, 2016 - 03:48 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thank you, Corey. Will look it up. That "open them [other planets] up for yourselves" might be much later, around 3999 when Billy and presumably some (many?) around him leave the earth for good for other planets, after which we (or all those who leave if it isn't everyone) have a great deal to look forward to. Although that final leaving is so far away it is important IMO to keep one's focus on where one is eventually headed while facing the trials along the way. Taking the heavy knocks on the way to fulfilling one's destiny is just what life is about. IMO we have to consider them both and that keeps us grounded and focused on reality. I like to never forget where we're headed but never forget what we face now and the trials we will face along the way. Billy has said words to the effect that there are trials before any worthwhile goal is reached.
Chris

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Kenneth
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Well, we know that our Sun and consequently our DERN Universe system is dying. Is our very long range plan to finally reunite with our distant Lyrian origins? With our dying Sun in mind, what will happen to our sister twin DAL (Dajansini Arg Lasergnoralin) universe that nudges the 7th outer belt of our DERN Universe?

http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/DAL_Universe
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Cpl
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Posted on Monday, October 03, 2016 - 11:32 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Kenneth,
Our sun is dying but not the DERN universe. The latter is still in expansion phase. I doubt our sun dying, in the slow process that it does, will have any noticeable impact on the DERN universe, because the gate between the two is extremely distant from us. Also the process is long and slow, and all things are continually changing.
Chris

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Corey
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Hi Kenneth,

Yes, the time of black sun is coming in one and a half, to two and a half thousand million years. In future times, as we voyage out into the deep black of space, I think our planet (and all of it's colonies) will consider it a top priority to reunite with our distant Lyrian origins, not to mention our Sirian origins in future alliances, but we would have to be respectful, this may especially come into play during the future time when our time travel investigations are complete, and we have verified, solved, and matured collectively from so many of our planet's historical mysteries. We will have more of a reason to wish to reunite with Earth's extraterrestrial origin's.

As for your DAL universe question, one can only assume our planet's best scientific people will be on this one as well, to go along with all our other peaceful scientific work, as we slowly use science (through the process of discovery) to overcome our volatile natures over some millennia if necessary. Short-term our planet's discoveries have already opened so many previously closed doors, there is so much in the Meier material to keep us occupied for several hundreds of years, and so much longer too. I think the transition to more peaceful of a planetary people could equal that we will be a more scientific people, and overcome so many volatile difficulties, and this could be a very powerful lesson to our planet's people in the future time, if we collectively choose to have so many difficult lessons to learn (as effects) from our volatile nature's in the short-term. I would be interested in hearing other's opinions on this matter.
mental-block: consciousness, thoughts, feelings, psyche.
consciousness-block: character, personality, subconsciousness, ego, memory. "Teaching Script" page 124
ratio: intellect, rationality, sageness (true discernment), morals. "The Psyche" page 216
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