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Reen71b
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Posted on Wednesday, January 26, 2022 - 01:44 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

@ Kenneth

I wanted to bring something up regarding the previous discussion of the long skulls. I just found this article on The Vintage News about a 2,000 year old Peruvian warrior skull that survived cranial surgery. If you find an article containing this information, you will find the images very impressive. Not only the surgery site but it also appears that it is also a long skull.


Maureen
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Kenneth
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Posted on Wednesday, January 26, 2022 - 07:00 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Maureen (Reen71b),

Yes, this does appear to be a long skull. Well, to be accurate, the article says, “The 2,000-year-old skull is believed to be of a warrior who sustained a serious skull fracture in battle and had surgery to embed a piece of metal to mend the fracture.” I have my doubts…

A couple of things jump out:
First: …the skull is BELIEVED to be a warrior. So, it is someone guess or assumption that this is a warrior skull.

Second: …a warrior who sustained a serious skull fracture in BATTLE had surgery. Another assumption regarding battle. More facts are needed from the so called experts.

For instance, what comes to mind in the Contact Notes regarding the Ice Man, Urk or Ötzi
From CR 238 / http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_238.

The so-called authorities stated (ASSUMED) that Urk died in battle. The Plejaren tell us that he had an epileptic seizure and fell off a slope with one of his arrows in his quiver piercing his body, from which he died.



Going back approximately 150 years or so to the U.S. Civil War 1861 – 1865, if a warrior received a head wound, this kind of surgery was rarely done. Nonetheless, according to World Neurosurgery.

American Civil War likely involved shallow surgeries to the head that did not pierce the dura mater, survival rates were reportable between 46 – 56 percent, number of surgeries are unknown. However, in contrast the astonishing success of ancient cranial surgery in Peru in the treatment of living patients is amazing.

The warrior knights the 12th through the 18th century never received cranial surgery to my knowledge.

Today, after a brain surgery, the surgeon replaces the bone flap and attaches it to the surrounding bone with small titanium plates or mesh and screws.

So, obtaining titanium involves open pit mining with a complicated process for separating other minerals and waste material utilizing a gravity separation wet spiral concentrator. The article with the long skull does not say what metal was used for this cranial surgery process. Silver is very toxic for this purpose, titanium, not so much. The color difference between titanium and silver is almost the same.

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According to the American Association of Neurological Surgeons:

Experimentation with synthetic materials listed below were used to counteract complications associated with bone grafts. It’s my understanding that the medical society did not and still does not understand the fluidal energies involved in bone grafting and rejection.
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The first primitive cranioplasty procedures date back to 7000 BCE where metal and gourds were used to repair cranial injuries or defects. We do not know how they prevented infection.
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Methyl methacrylate, a methyl ester of methacrylic acid. Methyl methacrylate is a reactive resin, and the polymerized form is used as cement…
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Hydroxyapatite, is a calcium phosphate mineral with the chemical formula Ca10(PO4)6(OH)2. HA-like compounds compose approximately 65% of bone…
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Ceramics, is self-explanatory…
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Polyetheretherketone, is a colorless organic thermoplastic polymer in the Polyaryletherketone (PAEK) family, used in engineering applications. This material was used for metal replacement applications because it is corrosion resistance, high strength, durability, etc. However, all of these products have a certain toxicity associated with them including the ceramics.

The point is this cranial surgery was very precise for the people between the Bronze age and the Neolithic period or even into the Iron Age. As we talked about before in the Contact Notes, other civilizations that were further advanced than we are today have disappeared for one reason or another.

Kind regards
Kenneth
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Reen71b
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Posted on Wednesday, January 26, 2022 - 08:54 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Very interesting information, Kenneth. This is why I like coming to the forums. Some on here have some amazing knowledge to share. Information I wouldn't otherwise come across unless I was searching for something specific. I wasn't sure how true this information is so I'd thought I'd share and get some insight from you or anyone else. If the article is true, it's definitely an interesting find.
Maureen
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Norms
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Posted on Saturday, January 29, 2022 - 01:23 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Recently watched the 3-part series titled "Stolen History".

It appears there were extravagant cities all over the Earth built in the Greco-Roman style.

And then something happened where new rulers appeared took-over everything, divided the planet, and started destroying all the extravagant cities. Some buildings still remain although being claimed to have been built fairly recently. Extensive pictures and video of these historical buildings built in the same style still exists.

Haven't read anything about this in the Contact Reports.
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Norms
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Posted on Saturday, January 29, 2022 - 11:38 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Near the beginning of part two of the Stolen History series there is ...

Fredrich Max Muller, one of the founders of the academic field of Indian Studies was paid by the East India Trading Company to translate the Vedas to distort them permanently and to create arbitrary dates. Thus on December 9, 1867, he wrote to his wife:

"I feel convinced, though I shall not live to see it, that this edition of mine and the translation of the Vedas, will hereafter tell to a great extent on the fate of India and on the growth millions of souls in that country. It is the root of their religion and to show them what that root is I feel sure the only way of uprooting all that has sprung from it during the last 3000 years.

Fredrich Max Muller"

On the Caste System in India...

Susan Bailey noted that:

"Fallen to the colonial period, much of the subcontinent by people for whom the formal distinction of caste were of limited importance. Even in parts of the so-called Hindu heartland, the institutions and beliefs that are often described today as elements of the traditional caste system, did not emerge until the early 18th century."

Michelle Gibson writes:

"European colonialism intentionally created divides over almost the entire landmass of the Earth creating new countries from lands that were taken as well as divisions as discords between people that originally existed in harmony world-wide. It also diagrams the means by which power and control were consolidated world-wide mostly starting-out as trading companies but ended-up being very powerful in their respective regions. And after gaining complete control transfering power and control of the regions to the respective European empires. India was called the jewel in the Crown of the British Empire and it's largest and most important over-seas possession. Much of the British Empire was built around India in order ot provide roots to or protection for India. India was prosperous and rich in spices, silk, indigo, gold, cotton, and other products and resources. Trade with and eventual political dominance of large parts of India, was what provided Britain with large parts of it's wealth in the 1700's through 1900's."

All this demonstrates how the powerful have in the past and continue in the present to mold the world to their vision.
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Kenneth
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Posted on Sunday, January 30, 2022 - 10:50 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Greetings Maureen (Reen71b),

Thanks for the accolades, conversely, I may have a little knowledge from various experiences, nonetheless, I have gained much cognizance and awareness from Billy, the Plejaren, aka the Teaching and others on the Forum. In my opinion, I am only a messenger of certain information.

I do make mistakes occasionally, but I do not consider these missteps, but rather a steep learning curve… We cannot learn without mistakes. And the drumbeat goes on.

Kenneth
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Reen71b
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Posted on Monday, January 31, 2022 - 04:46 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

@Kenneth

Yes, I agree. We all make mistakes. But, you as well as others here have some valuable information to share. I often will research some of the information I find to see if they hold any value to the truth. Earth's history is so murky and we have little to go by except for some artifacts and skeletons. Even then, we can't always make sense of what we see due to lack of history. Some of it being written down on rock in languages that are difficult to decipher if at all. But, it's always thought provoking to discuss these things which I enjoy doing.
Maureen
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Kenneth
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Posted on Tuesday, February 01, 2022 - 07:14 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Greetings All,

There is a new 2022 movie series coming out called Halo, a remake. The title reads. “Aliens threaten human existence”. However, the trailer plot appears to follows close to the same script as what we understand about the Sirian Creator-Overlords and the Genetically-Manipulated race that was created to protect them. The Creator-Overload’s are now fearful of the Genetically-Manipulated and try to eliminate them…

This film appears to have many of the earmarks of Plejaren impulses.



http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Creator_Overlords

"This new human race, which exists on Earth today, was created to protect the Sirians as they had lost the ability to fight through self-manipulation when they were previously living in the Lyra star system."

"The reason for the new human races' limited life span was because the creator-overlords feared that they would band together and annihilate them. Eventually, their fears became reality, and for this reason new methods had to be found to bring the genetically-manipulated races under their control once again, although it meant that these goals would have to be achieved through radical extermination."

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Suspect that those on the FIGU Form that have read the information about the Sirian Creator-Overlords and the Genetically-Manipulated will understand the inner secondary plot of this movie.

Salome
Kenneth
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Posted on Wednesday, February 02, 2022 - 08:08 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Kenneth,
Yes, I think - given the heavy indoctrination through world's religions, there would be Plejaren impulses at work to promote a new understanding of our origin.
Maybe the Plejaren directed the film producers to come across CR 251 and when they read what Billy told us they felt it would be a good plot for their movie? Maybe they mixed it up a bit - towards "Hostile Aliens Threatening Earth" to be in line with the main stream promoted ET Phobia?

Salome, Bill

For anyone interested in the origins of the ET phobia and how the secrecy attached to it came into existence (P.J. Corso's book 'The Day After Roswell')
http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/14/11024.html#POST48070
http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/14/13401.html#POST72478

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Scott
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Posted on Wednesday, February 02, 2022 - 04:03 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello,

Here are two more images recently completed. Both images were submitted to Billy, who mentioned they were a good likeness, but Jmmanuel looked a little bit too serious. The image of Jmmanuel was re-done to reflect a less serious appearance. The second image is of Judas Ischkerioth which was displayed in the most current version of the Talmud of Jmmanuel.

Jmmanuel
Judas
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Newinitiation
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Posted on Wednesday, February 02, 2022 - 05:26 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Juda looks like Christian.

Matt lee
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Newinitiation
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Posted on Wednesday, February 02, 2022 - 05:26 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Scott for the images.

Matt lee
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Scott
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Posted on Wednesday, February 02, 2022 - 05:36 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You're welcome Matt....
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Posted on Wednesday, February 02, 2022 - 06:36 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Great Images - Thank you, Scott.
Salome, Bill
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Hugo
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Posted on Wednesday, February 02, 2022 - 06:42 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Kenneth,

Thanks for that movie tip! I hardly watched any movies for the past decade because they were all (leftist inspired) crap but I will watch that Halo one as the Plejaren impulses always make for good movies, example Bladerunner, Gattaga, Star Wars, ect.

Shouldn't Jmmanuel have almond shaped eyes like Billy does? As his spirit form lineage does like Gallileo, Rasputin, ect.
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Eddieamartin
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Posted on Wednesday, February 02, 2022 - 10:38 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I may just be completely off, but something tells me the drawing of Jmmanuel is not quite complete. I think I understand Billy saying it is a "likeness"... but ....sorry, just can't put it into words.

Someone should ask Billy to contribute the necessary input for a more accurate depiction. After Billy moves onto the Beyond, then there will not be another opportunity and in 3999 the Nokodemion creational-energy-form goes to the Arahat Athersata never to return and for billions and trillions of years, everyone will be upset that all we accepted was a "likeness".

Just my two cents worth, although I do appreciate the efforts and the talent of the artist.
Salome,
Eddie

In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says:
Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3)
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Kenneth
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Posted on Thursday, February 03, 2022 - 10:21 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The Ancient history of the Antikythera Mechanism.
There is a short video on You-Tube titled, “Scientists Finally Discovered the Truth about Antikythera Mechanism…”



The high precision analogue computer mechanism is a device made of brass and other elements that precisely plots planet movements in our universe among many other things.



The computer was found in a shipwreck off the Greek island of Antikythera, hence its name. Scientists now suspect that this computer was made around 200 BCE, But are still discovering things that this device can perform.



Because it was found on a Greek shipwreck, it is assumed that the Greeks made the device. Scientists have not publicly acknowledged extraterrestrial involvement. In my opinion, the Greeks nor any other Earthling had the technology to develop a complex computer of this accuracy 2,200 years ago.

Scott, would Billy have any knowledge of how this device came into existence?

Regards
Kenneth
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Posted on Friday, February 04, 2022 - 10:57 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Kenneth,

My hypothesis:
This device dates back to a time before 1453 BC, i.e., it was made in Little Atlantis (Santorini) or in Minoa and traded for some Greek imports.

Reasoning:
The manufacturing of the minute and exact cogwheels (and the exact planetary knowledge contained) in this device was of a much higher standard than Classic Greece or Rome.

It may be hard to prove this hypothesis.
One thought, though:

If the device was made by craftsmen in Santorini then it would, evidently, reflect the solar system before the Santorin volcano destroyed the whole island in 1453 (1). We know from the CRs (1) that this catastrophe occurred when the Destroyer cum Venus passed close to Earth causing many volcanic eruptions. We know as well that there was another planet in the orbit that Venus now holds (2)
But this planet (‘Skill’) was only 6,100 km in diameter – Venus’ dimeter is 12,100 km (Earth: 12756 km)
Did the heavier mass (3) contribute to its very different orbit?
Or was it the fact that the new planet (Venus) had to settle down ‘to new gravity relations?
Because Venus’ orbit is almost circular compared to the much more elliptical orbits of all the other planets. But the most striking difference is this:
While all other planets of our solar system (bar Uranus) orbit the Sun anti-clockwise, Venus orbits the Sun clockwise (like Uranus where it comes from).
If we assume that planet ‘Skill’ had as well an anti-clockwise direction (like all other non-Uranus planets) then - up to 1453 BC-
the orbit of our solar system’s 2nd planet was very different. And the important question then would be:
So how was the Antikythera Mechanism programmed?
In which direction did the planet that followed Mercury orbit the Sun?
If the Antikythera Mechanism’s 2nd planet turned anti-clockwise then it could well be a device made Santorin (Little Atlantis) which had a much higher standard of technique than other civilizations at this time (4).
It is a hypothesis. But I truly would be surprised of ancient Greek craftsmen created this device.

Salome Bill

Nota Bene:
We cannot prove that 'Skill' orbited Sun anticlockwise or had any other orbiting differences due to size. I am as well not sure if scientists working on this little prehistoric “masterpiece” are still able to verify the programmed orbital direction of the 2nd planet. But if they should find that it orbited the Sun differently to present day Venus and wonder why – then they should use and please credit Billy’s CRs info as the source of their explanation. It might lead other scientists to study what really is a treasure trove of enormous knowledge Thank you.

(1)
CR 61:38 (tells us that Destroyer arrived with Venus but the given date (3453) is wrong)
www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_061
CR 665:81 (Billy corrects the date 3453)
www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_665

(2)
CR 238:613-616
www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_238

(3)
Should one not expect that Venus (which has only a little less size and mass than earth) would orbit Sun further out (closer to Earth) ?

(4)
(Apart from the blue race in Agartha)
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Kenneth
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Hi Bill (Tat_tvam_asi),

Your theory regarding the Antikythera Mechanism was involved in trading between Little Atlantis (Santorini) for some Greek imports is very logical. Greece, Little Atlantis and the Antikythera device are all located in the Mediterranean.

I also agree that the manufacturing of the miniature cogwheels had to be exact to represent the precise location of the planets identified in this device rotating around the Sun. The Classic Greece or Roman culture did not have this kind of technology or knowledge in 1453 BCE. Galileo Galilei was born in February of 1564. In 1633 Astronomer Galileo was on trial by the Roman Catholic Inquisition for saying that Earth revolved around the Sun.

So, whoever made this analog computer device knew about the planetary orbits around the Sun in great detail.

Kenneth
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Jokubas_stalmokas
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Very interesting hypothesis. If I may add it quite also possible that the device was produced only one of a kind and a person who could oparate it was the only one in the know or a small group of them. It has has happened before that extraterrestrials would provide a specific human being with extra knowledge for peculiar reasons. For example Noah and the ship or Vril society and the flying device plans and etc. Maybe there is more to the story surrounding that timeline.
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Kenneth
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Posted on Saturday, February 05, 2022 - 11:01 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Jakubas,

Yes, I agree, you are onto something. It would not surprise me if Earthlings were guided in some manor in the early 1900’s in locating this analog computer mechanism, maybe through impulses. As we know, Earthlings must figure certain things out for themselves. This forum can come up with many examples.

120 years or so after mechanism’s discovery we have certain technology to penetrate the device with modern computer x-ray tomography and high-resolution surface scanning to image inside fragments of the mechanism and read the faintest inscriptions that once covered the outer casing of the machine. As time moves on, we will lean more…

Kenneth
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Newinitiation
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Jokubas I think Noah didn't build the ship or the ark.

Matt lee
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Jokubas_stalmokas
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Posted on Sunday, February 06, 2022 - 12:30 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Kenneth,

Maybe we find out more, but who it belonged to or the circumstances surrounding this device I think will remain as a secret for a long time.

Matt,

Yes I might be wrong about the Noah ship, but I simply wanted to share the idea behind it. All I remember that Noah was warned in advance about the flood and that he and his community built a wooden ship with the help of extraterrestrials or without them, I don't know.

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