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daniel
| | Posted on Monday, January 22, 2001 - 01:44 am: | 
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I do have a question that I have been dying to ask and that is what about Zitchin and the 12th planet. Astronomers have reportedly found huge gravitational effects on Neptune & Ouranos from something on the fringe of the solar system. What is Billy's reply to the notion of their being a rogue planet that orbits this system every 3200 years complete with aliens and the sumerian texts that relate the tale? |
david james
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 31, 2001 - 03:21 pm: |
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I have some general physics questions. I am well versed on General Relativity, and Revised Relativity. I have grasped the possibility of faster than light travel. A craft capable of this is easily capable of the rapid maneuvers in our atmosphere, which they are credited with. Billy's own descriptions verify this. Have their ever been statements by Billy, Errans visiting, or from the notes as to IF, OR WHEN we will be capable of manufacturing such a capability ? |
david james
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 31, 2001 - 03:24 pm: |
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I would like to ad, I have had feelings of spirituality such as Billy has described all of my life. Is there published material which can SPECIFICALLY describe how to train our own minds to be capable of the Mental Magic, which Billy has demonstrated ? Does Billy have the ability to Telepathically communicate with other Terrans here at home ?
Moderator: Hi David, I had to move your two prior posts into this Miscellaneous section since they did not pertain to the topic "Human Body" in which you originally posted. Please try to find the appropriate area for your posts in the future. Thanks for understanding... Marc J. |
Scott B.
| | Posted on Thursday, February 01, 2001 - 07:11 am: |
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Hello David
Many of us here who have contributed to this forum have had similiar ideas and questions. I think part of the barrier some of us are having is due to the fact that still much of Billys material is in German. What English is available is either unapproved or limited to what has been officially approved so far.
I think two books that might be of interest to you would be the "Psyche" and also the "Meditatiion", both of which have not been released in the approved versions yet. There are some unofficial versions floating around, but they may have some errors in them.
Billy does have telepathic abilites which have been demonstrated by his continued contacts with the Plejarans, because he does receive impulses when he is going to have a contact. I dont know if he can communicate with other people on this planet, or if anyone is developed enough to perceive this form of communication.
Best Regards
Scott |
A friend
| | Posted on Friday, March 23, 2001 - 03:02 pm: |
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Hello dear Figu members,
I have read all messages in this forum during last month and I realized some important things in this forum . I guess these things may affect Figu in future and may lead to some misunderstandings for all people who are studying Mr. Meiers documents and true teachings .
One of these things is about the phylosophy of this forum . I think the most important goal of this forum is to provide people with the opportunity to discuss about all Mr. Meiers statements and teachings and find the true answers to their fundamental questions about the various topics covered here according to Mr. Meier's vast knowledge and experience . In several cases I found different answers to a simple question on a subject ( for example spirit or death in another planet ) without mentioning that which one is the correct answer to that question according to Mr. Meier's teaching . For example some one has asked about the spirit of a dead person in another planet and what happens to his/her spirit ?
A friend replies that the spirit travels at the speed of light to reach to the main planet . The other friend beleives that the speed of spirit ir more than light and maybe 10 to the power of 7000 ( Big Bang Speed ) and another reply says that the spirit does not bind to the space and time and therefore it will travel to the main planet instantly without any time loss !
I'm worry about the day that Mr. Meier is not among us and this forum is grown as much as it can not be easily controlled for such biases from the the true teachings of Mr. Meier and this is what happened to early religions after the death of the true prophets ! I think you should really think about this problem and let your participants find the correct answers according to Mr. Meier's teachings and not the personal belief or understandings of the members .
There are some other important points that I prefer to discuss in my later posting since this posting may become very large and difficult to handel .
Sincerely Yours ,
A friend |
Anthea
| | Posted on Saturday, March 24, 2001 - 12:34 pm: |
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Hello Friend,
Mr Meier encourages people to think for themselves, not to follow in blind faith and belief, as is the case with Religion.
Kind Regards,
Anthea |
blerim
| | Posted on Saturday, March 24, 2001 - 12:49 pm: |
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hallo anthea
living well is the best revenge. |
Tim Davis
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 27, 2001 - 10:53 am: |
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Hello Scott and David,
From what I understand it, Billy is in touch telepathically with the Pleiadians with the help of their technology, it is not a natural ability. |
Norm
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 28, 2001 - 03:03 pm: |
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A Friend, I think that FIGU members that post on the forum should have their name in a different color or FIGU Member written next to their name, so that when they answer peoples questions, that person will know its from an official source, not just a forum member. |
Marc Juliano
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 28, 2001 - 11:09 pm: |
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Hello Norm (and person above known as "A friend"),
To improve the situation, I think we all should try to specify a source of our information whenever possible (I know...it's a pain!). There are many instances where profound statements are made in this Forum that keep the readers wondering "Is it true?", "Is it official?". I know when I see a source (e.g. "FIGU Bulletin #10, page 13"), it gives me more of a sense of confidence and trust in the post I'm reading.
I fully realize the English-speaking lot of us are suffering from a relatively low amount of approved English translations (compared to what's in German), hence, the amount of factual FIGU-Meier-based info we could share amongst each other is also going to be relatively low. We find ourselves resorting to any info that's out there, no matter how slipshod the translation is (I know I've done this before). This obviously will slowly change and improve as more official texts become available.
In the meantime, let's see if we all can append a little stamp on our factoids, excerpts, quotes, etc. that we pull out of the old cranium--and state our sources, whenever we can (even if it's "From a friend of some guy who spoke with a Core Group member at the Center in 1987.") Who knows...someday we may even have a central FIGU database of some form where we can check things out for ourselves. (Now there's an idea (!)...)
Marc |
Steve M.
| | Posted on Thursday, March 29, 2001 - 11:39 am: |
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Hi all,
Maybe this has been tried. Has anyone at FIGU sent info to any stations about Mr. Meier LATELY. I believe, if say either the Discovery channel or TLC(*The Learning Channel)were sent the book "Light years", pictures , info, 8mm film copies on the Meier case , even "Michael Hesemann's Official Web Page" - **good site) we could reach more people with info on the truth. They may be interested just for the fact that nobody has been able to prove the case is fraudulent since it started in 1975 .It has been more than 25 years now, & seems to have more support now than ever. Surely if it was not real , someone would have been able to prove it by now. Pesonally I never believed we evolved from apes , even as a child i knew that was wrong. Facts just did not add up with conventional theories about our origins & past. I always believed our Human beginnings started elsewhere, I just didn't know from where.
Personally I believed Mr. Meier from the beginning after I saw the "Pleadian connection" in the very early 80's & researched it further.(that was my beginning anyway).Then I felt I knew where we came from.
In anycase The Learning Channel seems to air good shows lately featuring Hancock, Buvall & so on.
Maybe people need to be reminded this case did not go away just because they haven't heard about it.
I feel it's a good time to contact these stations. How do you(FIGU & Mr Meier) feel about this ?
Kind regards....
Salome,
Steve M. |
Tim Davis
| | Posted on Thursday, March 29, 2001 - 10:15 am: |
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I think it was in the Bulletins I read details of how Billy receives the information when writing the contact notes. I have not been able to locate where that info is, or I would have provided a link, sorry.
Billy does describe how the info is transmitted from the beamship to a remote controlled relay disc that is positioned overhead, which transmits the info telepathically to him in a way that enables him to type it out on a typewriter at an unnaturally high rate of speed, 2,000 keystrokes per minute, if I remember correctly.
That figure sounds awfully hard to believe, and I wonder if it's a typo. However, Billy mentions that the electric typewriter he now uses had to be modified to keep up with his typing.
I find Wendelle Stevens's observation more realistic, where in his book "UFO... Contact From The Pleiades - Preliminary Investigation Report" Stevens watched him doing this (sometime in the late 1970's) and estimated the rate to be about 65 words per minute, on a manual typewriter, using only one finger. |
Tim Davis
| | Posted on Thursday, March 29, 2001 - 06:23 pm: |
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Well, after a quick look through Stevens's book, I couldn't find the paragraph about how Meier types out the contact notes (I'll keep looking), but I did find mention of it in the preface (pages 6 and 7) of each of the books "Message From The Pleiades".
Stevens writes that the first contact notes were mechanically/telepathically hand-written, shortly thereafter Billy was loaned a typewriter, where the "message came through almost as rapidly as the writing", and later he used an IBM Selectronic electric typewriter where he "was typing nearly 60 words per minute, with one finger, under mechano/telepathic control from the ship".
(To the moderator: I apologize for the errors, and for kind of straying off topic. You may edit or delete this and my last post as you see fit. I'll understand.) |
Tim Davis
| | Posted on Friday, March 30, 2001 - 09:56 am: |
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In case my last two posts make it to the forum, here's a further update.
I found the text I was looking for in the Preliminary Investigation Report, referring to how Billy writes the contact notes. It is on pages 122-123 in the 1982 printing.
I was mistaken in saying Wendelle Stevens witnessed Billy during one of these writings. Actually, Billy told Wendelle that he is able to type 12 pages per hour on the electric typewriter (not the manual one as I said earlier), which Wendelle estimated to be about 65 words per minute.
Again, sorry for the errors.
Tim |
Steve M.
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 04, 2001 - 08:00 am: |
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Tim,
Actually I think you were right when you said Wendelle witnessed the auto typing.
When he used an IBM Selectronic electric typewriter he "was typing nearly 60
words per minute, with one finger, under mechano/telepathic control from
the ship".
Tim this is exact from Wendell Stevens notes. Wendell also mentioned that they had recordings of the mechano/telepathic auto typing , so he must have been there.
Kind regards
Steve M. |
Tim Davis
| | Posted on Thursday, April 05, 2001 - 07:48 am: |
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Hi Steve,
In the Contact Notes it does sound like Wendelle was there to witness it but the Investigation Report it more clearly details that it was on a return visit on March 29, 1978, where he and Lee Elders visited, and Billy told them about new equipment that was donated anonymously, including the electric typewriter, and mentioned the progress he has made with it. He then looks for a tape recording of the typing and finds first a tape of the sounds from the beamship, where talk continues on that and different subjects.
Up until I re-read that part, I had thought Wendelle did witness it as you said. No wonder there is so much disinformation about Billy out there, it's often a challenge to get a clear enough idea from accurate sources. |
Victor Gatica
| | Posted on Friday, April 13, 2001 - 02:00 pm: |
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Hi Andrew , cordial greetings for all .
1.- How many planets with human civilizations there is alone in our galaxy?
2.- why only develop the religion in the earth? - statistically is impossible-
3.- how this one really constructed the human being (spirit, mind, body....)?
4.- what it is the madness?
P.D: excuse my bad English
Thanks
Victor |
barreto
| | Posted on Thursday, June 28, 2001 - 06:37 pm: |
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Hello truth seekers,
Just one more proof beamships are very ancient and real!
India, according to Dr.V. Raghavan, retired head of the Sanskrit department of India`s pretigious University of Madras, was alone in playing host to extraterrestrials in prehistory. Dr. Raghavan contends that centuries-old documents in Sanskrit (the classical language of India and Hinduism) prove that aliens from outer space visited his nation. "Fifty years of researching this ancient works convinces me that there are livings beings on other planets, and that they visited earth as far back as 4,000 B.C., " The scholar says. "There is a just a mass of fascinating information about flying machines, even fantastic science fiction weapons, that can be found in translations of the Vedas (scriptures), Indian epics, and other ancient Sanskrit text. "In the Mahabharata (writings), there is notion of divine lighting and ray weapons, even a kind of hypnotic weapon. And in the Ramayana (writings), there is a description of Vimanas, or flying machines, that navigated at great heights with the aid of quicksilver and a great propulsive wind. "These were space vehicles similar to the so-called flying saucers reported throughout the world today.
The Ramayana even describes a beautiful chariot which 'arrived shining, a wonderful divine car that sped through the air'. In another passage, there is mention of a chariot being seen 'sailing overhead like a moon.' "The references in the Mahabharata are no less astounding: `
At Rama`s behest, the magnificent chariot rose up to a mountain of cloud with a tremendous din.` Another passage reads: `Bhima flew with his Vimana on an enormous ray which was as brilliant as the sun and made a noise like the thunder of a storm." In the ancient Vymanka-Shastra (science of aeronautics), there is a description of a Vimana: "An apparatus which can go by its own force, from one place to place or globe to globe." Dr. Raghavan points out, "The text`s revelations become even more astounding. Thirty-one parts-of which the machine consists-are described, including a photographing mirror underneath. The text also enumerates 16 kinds of metal that are needed to construct the flying vehicle: `Metals suitable, lighare 16 kinds. `But only three of them are known to us today. The rest remain untranslatable." Another authority who agrees with Dr. Raghavan`s interpretations is Dr. A.V. Krishna Murty, professor of aeronautics at the Indian Institute of Science in Bangalore. "It is true," Dr. Krishna Murty says, "that the ancient Indian Vedas and other text refer to aeronautics, spaceships, flying machines, ancient astronauts. "A study of the Sanskrit texts has convinced me that ancient India did know the secret of building flying machines-and that those machines were patterned after spaceships coming from other planets."
got this "jewel" at the following site
http://www.atributetohinduism.com/Vimanas.htm |
BARRETO
| | Posted on Friday, June 29, 2001 - 11:05 am: |
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Hello everyone!
May 13, 1917, three shepherd children, in Fatima, Portugal, were surprised by a bright flash in a nearby pasture called Cova de Ira.
They were caught in a luminosity that nearly blinded them. In the center of the blaze, they perceived a "little woman" who told them she was "from heaven" and warned that world-wide suffering could be averted only if people ceased "offending god". On June 13th, fifty witnesses watched as the three knelt in prayer the oldest, ten-year-old Lucia, addressed an unseen entity whose answers were unheard by anyone other than Lucia and her two young companions. At the end of the dialogue, witness heard an explosion and saw a small cloud rise near a tree. Forty-Five hundred witnesses joined the three children near the same tree in the same pasture on July 13th. This day several witnesses reported a buzzing or humming sound, a small whitish cloud about the tree of the apparitions, and a loud noise at the Lady's departure.
On August 13, the crowd grew to 18,000 but the three children were not among them. They had been jailed by local officials eager to "put an end to this nonsense".
Those present reported a clap of thunder followed by a bright flash and a cloud surrounding the same tree. One month later a crown of 30,000 watched in astonishment as a globe of light appeared in plain view, advancing through the valley floor east to west, coming to rest on the same tree
On the October 13th, when 70,000 gathered in pouring rain. Many came to keep faith with the prophecy of Our Lady, others to taunt what they saw as a display of medieval supernaturalism. Shortly after noon, thick gray clouds suddenly departed and rolled back like curtains on a stage, as a strange fragrance filled the air. The sun appeared against the clear blue sky as a flat silver disc revolving on its own axis and sent forth shafts of red, violet, yellow and blue light in all directions. Suddenly the disc plunged erratically downward in a zigzag fashion, causing thousands of witnesses believers and disbelievers alike to fall to their knees in public confession of their sins before the world ended.
The disc stopped short and began slowly rising into the sky in the same irregular way, disappearing into the sun.The entire display lasted less than fifteen minutes.
After 13 years of investigation, "the catholic church", offered this "evaluation" of the Fatima sighting
"This phenomenon, which no astronomical observatory registered and which therefore was not natural, was witnessed by persons of all categories and of all social classes, believers and non-believers, journalists of the principal Portuguese newspapers and by persons some miles away".
What were their objectives contacting the children? who were them?
Were they federated? Were they really 'negative' ETs?
Were they conected to the Ghizeh Inteligence? Aruseak-Ashtar?
The church keeps the sole survivor of the contact (Lucia) isolated because she knows too much!
José Barreto |
Marc Juliano
| | Posted on Saturday, June 30, 2001 - 11:07 am: |
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Hello José,
The topic of Fatima was discussed recently in this posting by Wolf-Dieter. You can use the Keyword search to see if a subject has been discussed before in the FIGU Forum.
Regards,
Marc |
Chris Frank
| | Posted on Saturday, June 30, 2001 - 08:38 pm: |
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One of my more favorite people who talked a lot on the subject of Fatima was Father Malachi Martin.
Apparently the pope in 1919 had written down instructions that were given to the children at Fatima by the Lady. This letter was to be opened by whoever was pope in the 1960ès (I think it was a pope called John Paul). Father Malachi Martin was present when they openned the instructions. The Pope read the message, passed it around, and then disregarded it.
I have often wondered that since the Vatican is familar with many of the ancient texts, if the pope himself would have known that this was a deception by some alien life force (what is referred to as the Giza Intelligence). |
Norm
| | Posted on Monday, July 02, 2001 - 01:09 pm: |
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Chris Frank, In my opinion, Giza has probably fooled the Catholic Church more than any organization on Earth. The Catholic Church will use the info if it fits their agenda, and not use it if it doesn't. |
Anthony Hall
| | Posted on Saturday, July 07, 2001 - 01:58 am: |
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Hi Chris,
>Apparently the pope in 1919 had written down instructions
>that were given to the children at Fatima by the Lady. This
>letter was to be opened by whoever was pope in the 1960ès
>(I think it was a pope called John Paul). Father Malachi Martin
>was present when they openned the instructions. The Pope
>read the message, passed it around, and then disregarded it.
Malachi was one of the head of Vatican intelligence.
According to ex-Jesuit Alberto, the Fatima event was a fraud
by the Vatican with political overtones.
>I have often wondered that since the Vatican is familar with
>many of the ancient texts, if the pope himself would have
>known that this was a deception by some alien life force
>(what is referred to as the Giza Intelligence).
The Pope is just a figure head, a pied-piper, for the
Catholics to adorn. Near to the pope is the Jesuit
roundtable, behind that is the CURIA, behind them
are unseen rulers--secret societies and bankers. Currently,
they are three factions fighting. The Orthodox has some
leverage right now.
Anthony |
Barreto
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 03, 2001 - 06:33 pm: |
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Hello from Truth Seekers!
I would like to know what the "catolic church" has to say about an old painting like this 
"The Baptism of Christ" (???)
by Aert De Gelder, 1710
Note the disc shaped form in the sky casting a beam of light (beamship?) on the persons bellow.
That remembers me of Jmmanuel and John the Baptist moments before the beamship take Jmmanuel for 40 days.
Comments please and also check this site for more paintings exactly like the one above all depicting UFOs.
This is the site to the OLD UFO PAINTINGS.
Saalome!
José Barreto |
Barreto
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 03, 2001 - 06:35 pm: |
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HarryD
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 08, 2001 - 06:39 am: |
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Moderator: The following posts about Semjasa were moved from the topic Visiting the Semjase Silver Star Center since it's not relevant to that area.
Hector...
The name of the evil spirit was SEMJASA I believe so with A at end instead of E..
If the A or E does't mean much to your opinoin then think about how you would feel if people started calling you Hecter or Hoctor ;)
Greetings
Harry |
Mark Campbell
| | Posted on Thursday, August 09, 2001 - 12:02 pm: |
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Hector ;
The "Semjaza" that you refer to was reffered to as a "fallen angel", in some versions of the Book of Enoch . This would not equal him to be a demon , but a male star traveller who has fallen from his duty , and taken up residence here on Earth on his own farm , with a human wife( or wives).This skeptic website that you've found is a common type of propaganda site that is only designed to try to deter and discourage proper growth and understanding amongst us on Earth. Reading to a greater depth on this FIGU website will easily explain more .It would be nice if we could depend on the legends and histories that we inherited from our ancestors, but we can't. Yet we find that only now are a few people exposed to the truth of the matter .
peace , mark |
Norm
| | Posted on Thursday, August 09, 2001 - 01:10 pm: |
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I think what Samyaza/Shemyaza/Semjaza did in those times was considered a very bad thing to do by the ET leadership of the time. That's probably why it has been interpreted as a bad. What the de-bunkers are trying to say, is all ETs don't exist, and if that doesn't work then they say, all ET's are bad. It's a prejudiced viewpoint, this Yahoo Club Website that the information is posted on is not even a religious Website. They are just using it as disinformation to bury the truth! |
Chris Frank
| | Posted on Friday, August 10, 2001 - 09:20 pm: |
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Going back on the Sumerian Scrolls, Sitchin mentions the writings of Enoch. Yes, Samjaza is mentioned, but as a male, also known as the serpent Enki. He did lead a rebellion against God, but at the request of the angels (who found the toil too difficult). God-Enlil was furious when he found out what Enki-Samjaza had done. Later the matter was resolved by Lord God-Anu himself.
Enkis history and the things that he accomplished were quite fascinating.
I enjoy reading these works and when I compare them to a lot of the religions out there, well, I can see where a lot of the stories come from (though they have been changed a lot over thousands of years). |
Phil McAiney
| | Posted on Saturday, September 22, 2001 - 02:49 pm: |
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Data From CONTACT 241 of February 3, 1992:
Paraphrasing sentences 121 - 135:
It was decided 13,500 years ago that in the New Era the spiritual teachings would be spread using High German as it is the most accurate language on Earth. English is one of the sloppiest and many words, like the German "Macht" (power, might) are untranslatable in English.
With help from the High Council, Pleidian language scientists tried to translate Billy's writings into all of Earth's languages, including English, so that the Code would be included as well.
Over 18,000 highly specialized language scientists attempted to translate Billy's writings into Earth languages other than German and Swiss-German. They finally concluded it was impossible. It was only successful in German, Swiss-German and Old-Lyrian.
Since I have yet to find a Language School that teaches Old-Lyrian, I am continuing my study of German. It has turned out not to be as bewildering as I had originally thought. |
Phil McAiney
| | Posted on Saturday, September 22, 2001 - 02:54 pm: |
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To Zexh:
I suggest you write the FIGU in Switzerland and ask them to pass your letter to the FIGU Passive Members in Siberia. They could get in touch with you and arrange a meeting. I know the woman in charge is Ludmilla and her husband is Volodya and I think despite the hardships in reaching them, the meeting would be memorable and beneficial to all of you. |
Michael
| | Posted on Saturday, September 22, 2001 - 05:28 pm: |
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Phil,
So are you saying that unless we read and understand the teachings in German we won't understand them in English, for example? Wouldn't seem to make much sensee to translate them then.
Michael |
Phil McAiney
| | Posted on Sunday, September 23, 2001 - 06:35 pm: |
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If one wants to have the Code, it is necessary to be able to read the German, or have someone else read it to one who can read German. The many translations help to bring the overall messages and data to people in the convenience of their own language but for those wishing a full 100%, including the Code, it would be necessary to learn German. That's the way it was set down. No exceptions.
This is why the FIGU, when it translates and publishes something of Billy's into English, always accompanies it with the German original, like in the "Talmud Jmmanuel" and some of the booklets. |
Anthony Alagna
| | Posted on Sunday, September 23, 2001 - 07:31 pm: |
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Hey Phil,
What's this code you are talking about? I don't have a clue
I'm too busy looking for synchronisity, ya know that Police tune?
A child can understand Creation, no matter what song they know
Expanding everything all together is what Creation seems to be
Don't depend on something that is not your own dream
Best regards,
Anthony
PS -- Sorry about the lack of periods in my sentences, but my period key broke
But I still get By |
Phil McAiney
| | Posted on Monday, September 24, 2001 - 02:19 pm: |
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Hello Anthony:
Here is my unofficial, private translation of an announcement that is printed on Page Two of every book Billy has written to date:
AN IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT
TO THE READER OF THIS BOOK
Into all German-language books of Billy a CODE is woven in. This Code is only effective completely if each word is in its correct place from beginning to end and is written free of mistakes. The Code releases impulses from the spiritual area (Akasha Records) which connect with the reader and begin to work in him. This process is unconscious. This effect can also reach one who is not proficient in the German language when somebody else reads the German text to them. It doesn't matter if the text is read aloud or quietly, or if it is read to one.
The German language stems from the Old-Lyrian and has the exact same number of letters per word. Example: "Salome" = "Friede" (Peace)
"Urda" = "Erde" (Earth)
It is not possible for Billy Eduard Albert Meier to install the Code in other than the German language because no other language is suitable for the Code to be inserted.
Moreover, one must take into account that many words of the German language do not exist in other languages, which is why all translations into foreign languages have resulted in only an incomplete sense of the original German.
Due to the aforesaid reasons, for each translation into a foreign language of a writing of Billy's, the original German text is included.
END OF EXCERPT
Billy has written that an example of what is released from the Akashic Records is an impulse to work for peace. He uses the work of Mikhail Gorbachev in dismantling the old Soviet empire without much violence. |
Anthony Alagna
| | Posted on Monday, September 24, 2001 - 04:49 pm: |
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Hi Phil,
Thanks for the whole thing on Billy's code. No doubt, a true subconscious link given Billy's superior writing ability and the precise German language.
(TJ 20: 20) "And to his disciples he said, " Truly, truly, I say to you, seek knowledge and recognize the truth, so that you will become wise." Sooooo, THINK ABOUT ([Ponder] bring to the conscious mind) the concepts in the teachings so that you understand what you are reading, no matter what you are reading.
(TJ 20:23) "As I was born of an Earth woman and speak her language, I am called Jmmanuel, as god in his language is called god, which also means king of wisdom, and he is often a ruler over a human population and master over a people."
The subconscious link supplied by the code might be the natural equivalent of a good "breast feeding?" But larger spiritual progress is accomplished in the conscious mind, no matter how limited the words.
"Believe in nothing, know in something." Andrew
Best regards,
Anthony. |
ZOOp
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 13, 2001 - 05:17 pm: |
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dearpeople,
I recently posted a question regarding the saftey of microwaving food.specifically,how did the plejarans veiw the practise.I was told,"This has been discussed before".since I cannot locate that "particular discussion" in search,I am before the group again.Is anyone willing to help. |
Savio
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 13, 2001 - 11:14 pm: |
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Hi Zoop
As far as I can recall, it was mentioned that the food prepared via microwave oven is safe to be taken.
Hope this help 
Regards
Savio |
Wolf-Dieter
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2001 - 09:04 am: |
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Hi Savio and ZOOP, this is not quite correct. Food that is prepared by a microwave oven should be covered or in a box, so that the food is not exposed directly by microwave radiation.
I think there is an information about this in a contact note. I´ll look it up for you.
Wolf-Dieter |
ZOOp
| | Posted on Thursday, November 15, 2001 - 12:57 pm: |
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THANK YOU SAVIO,
I do clearly remember reading in contact notes that microwaving was considered safe. I dont have those notes any more,so I thank you for this confirmation. This point now concerns me greatly.I found an internet site on a"microwave ovens"search.It contained a substantial amount of information about the dangers of this technology.It states that the former soviet union banned their use,also that the american FDA did no studies on the effects of microved foods on humans.It went on to talk about the coversion of proteins and sugars to carcinagens any takers? |
ZOOp
| | Posted on Monday, November 19, 2001 - 01:19 pm: |
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HELLO GROUP,
I AM A NEW PARTCIPANT IN THIS FORUM.I WOULD LIKE ALL TO KNOW, THAT HAVING E-MAILED THE CENTRE WITH A QUESTION, I RECEIVED NO, SATISFACTORY OR REASONABLE RESPONSE. I SENT THREE E-MAILS I HAD TWO REPLIES,BOTH WERE FORM LETTERS WITH NO REGARD TO THE QUESTION.. ON MY THIRD AND FINAL ATTEMPT, I ASKED WHY THE RESPONSES WERE ABSENT OR INADAQUATE. TODAY I RECEIVED THE IDENTICAL FORM LETTER,THANKING ME FOR MY QUESTION??.PLEASE TAKE NOTE, I REPLIED HONESTLY AND COMPLETELY TO THE PERSONAL INFORMATION REQUEST FORM. FORTUNATELY I AM GROUNDED TO THE AUTHENTICITY OF THIS CASE. HOWEVER, IF I HAD NOT BEEN, AND WAS SEEKING CONFIRMATION ON THAT LEVEL? THEN GOD HELP ME BECAUSE THE FIGU DIDN'T. BILLY IS NOT LOOKING AFTER THESE REPLIES,HE'S TRUSTING PEOPLE TO DO IT ON HIS BEHALF! EVERY SINCERE QUESTION SHOULD BE TREATED AS IF BILLY'S MISSION DEPENDS ON IT. |
Mark Campbell
| | Posted on Saturday, November 24, 2001 - 04:56 pm: |
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Hello Zoop ;
I am only another person who posts to this forum , but I can offer you an insight to what seems to be a frustrating situation to you ; You mentioned that the FIGU should "answer every question as if the mission depends on it" . First , Billy is someone who has many duties and does not read these posts personally . The moderator is also a busy person with his own life .It's possible that the question you asked has been answered before on the forum , and you can perform a search right here without leaving the forum area .As you know , god will not answer an e-mail either , so there should be a good reason for it all that would make sense to you if you knew about it .The other idea that I have is that maybe you are making to big of an issue about it , and maybe there is some reason that this frustrates you and offends you personally and you obsess about it . Of all the topics discussed here , I am aware of nothing that is a life or death emergency , unless it involves suicide , and I can tell you, that is a bad idea in any case . I think you are saying that you emailed the question to the center and not the forum ? Well , the core group members are very busy too , and get 100's of questions from all over the world in different languages , so maybe they are busy looking up words in translation dictionaries .They can take some time to respond , so don't take it personally .
Anyway , if you haven't posted your question here in the forum , you might try it . It's possible that one of us knows the answer . Most importantly , try to see the logic that getting excited and angry is an old outdated response to things , and that noone is trying to avoid you intentionally .
Salome , Mark |
Nerf Herder
| | Posted on Saturday, November 24, 2001 - 05:30 pm: |
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Hello ZOOp,
Been there; done that.
God is not gonna help ya -- he's busy flying around outta space.
The Figu people can't help ya -- they are busy figuring out if they should use a towel after a shower.
Learn about the Force (Creation). Become ONE with Creation.
You have the power to help yourself. Look for the answers yourself and just think about it. Ignite your spirit and take responsibility. Just do it; and have no doubt.
Best regards,
Nerf Herder |
Scott B.
| | Posted on Saturday, November 24, 2001 - 06:31 pm: |
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Hello Zoop
Please know that towels or no towels the FIGU people that I have met are decent people.
Language barriers, cultural barriers, whatever, the time it takes to find answers can be a timely experience.
If you had many people e-mailing you, writing you as Mark said from many parts of the world you would find it justs takes time. There are just a handful of core group people that speak English and even fewer that are able to write it. Perhaps if you have a handle on the German Language you may find some of the answers you are searching for on the German portion of this website.
Many times people on this forum have posed questions which sometimes havent been answered for months. As Mark said please post your questions here for starters and we will see what we can come up with in the mean time.
Best Regards
Scott B. |
Savio
| | Posted on Saturday, November 24, 2001 - 08:35 pm: |
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Hi Zoop and Scott
Yes, it is true that some questions are not answered for months; I have a few out there too
But I will be waiting patiently, I fully aware that the FIGU members are really busy, and they have
their daily lives to fight for too.
Anyway, I would be much at ease during my wait if someone can response with something like
"there is no answer at the moment" or "Will post the answer when available"...etc rather than
no response at all.
Any comments?
Ragards
Savio |
Linda Williams
| | Posted on Saturday, November 24, 2001 - 08:54 pm: |
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ZOOp,
If you're throwing out a bone, I've decided to scramble for it. So, WHAT'S YOUR QUESTION?
Underscoring everyone else, please post your question(s)here on the forum.
If you're lucky you will receive a direct answer to your direct question, pursuant to FIGU's Manifesto, which states, in part:
It is our goal to ensure that everyone receive the best, most extensive and truthful replies to his/her questions, so that everyone's evolution progresses and the natural thirst for knowledge is quenched.
If you're not so lucky, you might hear from various FIGU forum participants something like,"Find it out. We're not about to spoon feed you!" Or, "This topic has already been covered on the forum. Do a keyword searh." Or,"Here's a hint, a clue:" Or, "Go the main website.information."
Or, ". . . "
While there appears to be some internal discord over the above "procedural issue," I happen to sympathize with Nerf who also observes a seemingly inordinate amount of time spent on a "substantive issue" such as "how to wash and dry ourselves."
Looking forward to your question,
Linda |
Jean Pierre Lagasse
| | Posted on Sunday, November 25, 2001 - 10:11 am: |
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The "keyword search" is a wonderful facility... which I use quite a bit at times.
Often, I have found that after posting questions, I was able to answer my own questions either through searches, or just by thinking about it & reflecting on what was said already.
At times I (& others) spend a fair bit of time through email, discussing FIGU related stuff & info. If anybody does not wish to post their question(s) on the forum... perhaps I (or others) could try to help?
Keep in mind, though, everybody has their own unique point of view & "knowledge base".
Whether the FIGU moderators (or Billy) should answer every single question promptly (in an official capacity) is sort of like the "towel or drip dry" question... *s*
Everybody will have their own version of what they think should be done.
I think that one of the purposes of this (present format) forum is to facilitate discussion amongst us... which is what is happening presently.
Some members are willing to spend a great deal of time with the information (learn German etc.) & others, at first (myself included), want(ed) everything "quick".
If the FIGU moderators were to answer all questions themselves, this would not allow "us" to try to help new members.
Trying to help new members is as learning experience (for us all) which I'm glad we have.
Makes us think, eh?
Perhaps there is wisdom in the way FIGU conducts this forum?
JP |
ZOOp
| | Posted on Sunday, November 25, 2001 - 09:36 pm: |
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HELLO/PEOPLE THANKYOU FOR YOUR OPINIONS[SOME HELPFULL]ON MY DIFFICULTIES WITH THIS SITE.THANKYOU LINDA FOR YOUR E-MAIL.
YES I WOULD BE GRATEFULL IF YOU WOULD TAKE MY QUESTIONS DIRECTLY THOUGH I DID NOT RECEIVE YOUR E-MAIL ADDRESS. NO MARK, I DO NOT EXPECT GOD TO HELP ME, NOR AM I SUFFERING FROM EMOTIONAL PROBLEMS.[THANKYOU FOR YOUR CONCERN].YES NERF, I AM TAKING RESPONSIBILIY AND ATTEMPTING TO FIND ANSWERS FOR MYSELF. BUT SINCE I COULDN'T CONTACT THE PLEJARANS DIRECTLY, I CONTACTED THE FIGU [WHOOPS] . I CONCEDE THE STAFF ARE DECENT PEOPLE WITH LIVES AND LITTLE TIME TO DEVOTE TO THESE THINGS, SO I WILL REFRAIN FROM ANY CRITICISM. I WOULD ONLY SUGGEST THEY MODIFY THE FORM RESPONSES TO INCORPORATE ONE OR MORE OF THE SUGGESTIONS SAVIO MADE.LASTLY,I POSTED MY DEBUT QUESTION TO THIS FORUM A FEW WEEKS AGO ,AFTER AN INITIAL BRUSH OFF, IT WAS PICKED UP BY A KIND MEMBER. [SEARCH/MICROWAVE OVEN]THANKYOU |
ZOOp
| | Posted on Friday, December 07, 2001 - 07:30 pm: |
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dear wolf dieter/
I was going to let the matter of the microwaves go.however I couldn't resist countering your post in which you stated that food cooked in a microwave should be sheilded from direct exposure to the energy .I have to ask you to elaborate.It just seems a little to simplistic an answer for me to run and do popcorn! firstly what kind of box? and why should such a thing be effective?I read a little on microwaves and noted that microwave energy agitated the water molecules in food by rapidly switching applied polarities ,this then rotates and counter rotates the molecule,using that particles own north and south poles as grappling points. a nanofrictive environment ensues,and oh yes hot food! so it would seem to me that the effect is the effect? and to sheild it is to nullify it .can anyone add or clarify ... |
Anthea
| | Posted on Saturday, December 08, 2001 - 04:51 pm: |
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Hi Wolf-Dieter, my memory might need refreshing but I seem to recall that while microwaved food is safe to consume, the real danger of microwave-ovens is the outward radiation of "microwaves" (very short electromagnetic waves), while the microwave-oven is being operated. This is due to the units (ovens) being inadequately sealed, which is the fault of manufacturers who are not sufficiently aware of the true dangers of "microwaves". To avoid being adversely affected by these "microwaves" it is thus wise to not stand in front of the microwave-oven while it is in operation.
Zoop, I hope this helps to clear up some confusion about the safety of microwave-ovens as opposed to the safety of eating microwaved food.
Regards,
Anthea |
Christian Frehner
| | Posted on Thursday, December 13, 2001 - 01:45 pm: |
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Hi Jean Pierre,
Regarding the end part of your posting of 25th november I'd say that the reason is, perhaps besides wisdom (thanks for that), simply lack of time. (At least in my case.)
Regards,
Christian |
Savio
| | Posted on Sunday, December 09, 2001 - 08:10 pm: |
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Hi Jean & all
Yes, PCs do radiate RF energy, they interfere the flight control equipment remember? Well, I think the radiation level may be much lower than a mobile phone which is 0.1watt at most.
However, a microwave oven is a power transmitter, it is at least over 200 watts! More dangerous if there is a leakage.
Anyhow, there exists no definite statement about which is the fatal level, all the information we can get is just recommendations and guidelines; e.g. do not expose to XX level for YY duration.
Nobody can tell what would happen if one does expose to XX level of radiation for YY duration.
I do have some friends that they did expose to microwave radiation for a few days because of a leakage.
They felt tired and uneasy whenever they were working inside that room, they found out what was wrong
with a microwave detector a few days later.
The worse thing is - you do not know what is happening to you until you are hurt..... sometimes it is too late to find out what is wrong.
Regards
Savio |
Jean Pierre Lagasse
| | Posted on Thursday, December 13, 2001 - 11:34 am: |
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Hi Phil,
Can you (or anybody) provide us with a reference as to where you got this data?
Thanx,
JP |
Jean Pierre Lagasse
| | Posted on Monday, December 10, 2001 - 08:20 pm: |
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Hi ZOOp,
Interesting site...!
It is possible that there is something to what herbalhealer.com says about microwaved foods...
It is also possible that what was mentioned by the Plejarans/FIGU(?) about microwaved foods takes into account the manner & type of cooking typically done...??
Also, it may have been in context of "degree"... or "relative danger" (compared to our other habits/etc.)???
Many possibilities... however:
It would be really good if herbalhealer.com was able to give more specific details about the studies they quote, or references to the materials themselves. That way, we could more readily check these out & decide for ourselves what was really "discovered" or whatever.
On a separate note:
I read the "National Enquirer" occasionally.
They don't care WHAT they print... they occasionally even print the "truth" before anybody else will !!!
I have added the herbalhealer.com site to my "favorites"... also!!
Thanx for the info,
JP |
Savio
| | Posted on Sunday, December 09, 2001 - 05:06 am: |
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Hi Anthea
I agree with your explanation. That is why I did not buy or use any microwave oven at all.
We can hardly know whether a microwave oven is leaking radio energy or not unless we use a
suitable microwave detector.
I do not think I will put a "time bomb" in my kitchen while both my wife and kids have very
little knowledge about radio energy leakage.
Regards
Savio |
Mark Campbell
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 12, 2001 - 07:31 pm: |
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Hi Phil ;
Would a covering of a paper towel be enough , or must it be a container , like a cardboard or plastic box ? |
Scott B.
| | Posted on Monday, December 10, 2001 - 08:55 pm: |
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Hi JP
Panasonic has released a cordless phone which operates in the 2.4 GHZ region.
Now we can cook our brains and talk at the same time!
Scott |
ZOOp
| | Posted on Sunday, December 09, 2001 - 12:04 pm: |
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DEARGROUP/I HAVE TO REITERATE AND CLARIFY,THE REAL CONCERN IS THE EFFECT ON THE FOOD.[WWW.HERBAL HEALER.COM]THE POINT OF CONTENSION HERE IS THE DISPARITY BETWEEN THE PLEJARAN POSITION.WHICH IS THAT "IT'S SAFE FOR EARTH HUMANS TO EAT MICROWAVED FOOD" AND OTHER REASONABLE INFORMATION WHICH CONTRADICTS THAT.I urge you to look at that information or be dammed with zoop postings for the rest of your lives! |
Phil McAiney
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 12, 2001 - 06:45 pm: |
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The Pleiadian advice to Billy on microwaves was to be absolutely sure the food is covered and not open, making it subject to the micro-waves. |
Jean Pierre Lagasse
| | Posted on Sunday, December 09, 2001 - 11:19 am: |
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Hi all,
PC CPU's are being sold with speeds of around 1.5GHz presently.
When PC's reach 2.45 GHz in speed, does this mean that "microwave oven emissions detectors" can be used on PC's as well?
I suspect that the power density of any "leakage" from PC's would be far too low for any concern...??
There are also standards for RF emissions... which manufacturers must follow.
Apparently, water molecules "resonate" at 2.45 GHz.
What about even higher (or different) frequencies, though...?
What other molecular bonds (at different frequencies) would be affected?
Are some body molecules more sensitive than others? & at what frequencies?
At 2.45 GHz: The leakage allowed from microwave ovens seems to be defined by: "BS5175:1976, Safety of Commercial Electrical Appliances using Microwave Energy for Heating Foodstuffs"
I cannot find (so far) any detailed info on this standard, though...
One manufacturer mentions a leakage value limit of 5Mw/Ccm. (.005 watts per cubic centimeter)
Is this leakage value truly "safe" at 2.45Ghz ?????
How about "safe limits" at other frequencies??
Techs working around radar or RF transmitters sometimes have "stories" to tell about these...
It would be interesting to have an accurate table showing the dangerous power density levels associated with different frequencies of RF.
Perhaps next life, eh?
In the meanwhile, I use my microwave oven quite often, but I avoid standing near it while it's working.
The door seals should be kept clean. If the door latch or mating edges become damaged in any way, or if the door gap increases, it's probably best to garbage the thing rather than rely on local appliance techs to fix this properly.
JP |
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