| Author | Message | ||
    Mark Campbell |
This is a central topic , because everything really comes down to human relationships .Even people who live on islands do not live alone .A common problem is a lack of insight , regarding our actions , other's actions in response to our initial acts or words , and ensuing retaliations .Often ones are mistakenly in judgement of others for the way they are treated , because perhaps they acted too aggressively to begin with .A certain distancing avoidance ,or rejection of this person or persons is often misunderstood as an original offense , when in fact it is in itself a reaction to the original aggressiveness or wrong action. The following time may include coldness , silence , and even the compulsive tendency to attempt to turn others against certain people . When the attempt of this 'poisoning' is rejected , even those people are sometimes rejected for not being in compliance to this person's dislikes and hatred .It's an ugly thing to behold , and even worst to be drawn into .If people will take precautions to know protocol and priority in social and business situations ,much of this can be avoided . Salome , Mark | ||
Lonnie Morton |
Hello Mark, You bring up some interesting points. Yes, indeed human relationships are at the core of everything we do, and all values we produce. I quess it must be difficult to have smooth relations with everyone in the entertainment industry where many have hard to manage egos. There are always going to be problems, and nothing will ever be perfect even among the very best of friends. This is because we are all so different. And some of us may find it hard to understand why some people are the way they are and act the way they do. As for me, I just try to look at everything in a neutral positive objective manner. We are all human beings, not unreasoning animals, and hence should be as equals. We must respect human beings. And we must not judge or speak disparagingly of others. There is an old saying; "With what judgment you judge, you condemn yourself, inasmuch as you who judge practice the same things." So it really comes back to our own thinking and attitude, and how we regard ourselves. If someone doesn't like people, then they probably don't like themselves or Creation. Whether it is a business group, social group or even a FIGU group where people must work together to reach a common goal, if there is friction or misunderstandings between members, the mature thing to do is work it out first with ourselves. There should be no reason for mature people to harbor grudges, for this would be self-defeating. But then on the other hand, we are all on different levels of understanding, and for some it may take time. So, there is every reason for us to be happy if we are doing out utmost in what we are supposed to be doing. Kind regards, Lonnie | ||
Larry Driscoll |
Dear Linda and Scott, I think the best discussion concerning the Polygamy/Monogomy subject I have encountered in my years of reviewing Billy's contact informations occurs between Ptaah and Billy in the 235th Contact, February 3, 1990, pages 11 and 12. FIGU offers the 235th Contact in snall booklet form in its Stimme der Wassermanzeit German and English form. I recommend this information highly. | ||
James the Truthseeker |
Greetings forum, Here's something to think about concerning polygamy. It appears in attempting to comprehend the society of an advanced, emotionally ballanced human race, may be far beyond the comprehensions of most earth human beings. However I sure have to give credet to all those people(myself included), who may attempt to stretch the mind to the point where they in fact may or do succeed. It has often occurred to me that just perhaps there is a far grater number of women to men on these other worlds. Thus if this is true, then that leaves perhaps a one-to-three shotage of men to women. Every soul will therefore have the option of chosing monogamy or polygamy, which ever feels right to the individual providing they take full responsibility for the relationships they chose to be in, when clear with themselves in relation to others and with others. If this is so, then there may be also a higher percentage of weman with lesbian type tendencies, with such an over ecxess of women. In the event of a global over-population of above critical mass, then perhaps will see a much higher percentage of male homo-sexuals as a counter reaction within the creation itself. As for Bi-sexuality, an uncertanty of their own sexual nature will perhaps lead to a higher promiscuity within themselves, as I have also often observered thus far. What I still don't understand then is; why the higher percentage of womem to men within the creation itself? Could this perhaps be an imballance within the creation? Why would more souls chose to be women when it appears men in this situation has thee advantage? I feel I know the answers, but would like to hear other peoples opinions first. peace in wisdom, James the truthseeker. | ||
Andrew C. Cossette |
Hello James, According to Billy's information, more men ("positive poles") are born during "wartime." Hence, we have an imbalance -- and always have -- for thousands of years -- i.e., possibly due to the "Original Sin." According to the teachings, the "choice" (of sex) that you speak about is not an individual one, it is a 'joint' collaboration with your comprehensive-consciousness-block and spirit form and the Creation/Laws/Regulations, so-to-speak... Regards, Andrew PS - It should be mentioned that, according to Mr. Meier, the proportions/ratio (of females to males) are about 2-to-1, and not 3-to-1 (as I thought too) at the moment. Moreover, keep in mind that, globally, polygamy is the majority choice and 'default' relationship. (We just don't know that, unless we investigate it.) | ||
Phil McAiney |
Linda omce asked about the source of the law of Polygamy: the answer is that it is from The Creation. The verifiability of the existence of this law is that it exists in the animal species of Nature whereby order is maintained in that particular species, unlike the human species and their current laws and customs regarding their matrimony. | ||
Phil McAiney |
I would like to make a suggestion to everyone: Michael Whelan has said Guido's book will be officially available for bookstores to order starting September 15th, just a few days away. For those of us who can't wait to get and read it, I think we could immediately afterward contact our local and neighborhood newspapers and magazines, weeklies etc., to ask them their procedure for submitting a book review. Once we know their rules for doing so, we can then write our own review of the book and submit it for their consideration to put it in their publication. If these reviews find their way into our local, and maybe even national, newspapers, magazines etc.,there will be quite a large number of readers who will learn of the existence of the book - much to the delight of the stores selling it, naturally, who then might order very large quantities to accomodate the demand. This is a free and not too difficult way of creating publicity for a book that deserves it 100%. Please do not assume your format of submitting a book review is what your newspaper or magazine needs. Forinstance, they usually all have a certain length in mind of the maximum number of words to use. Usually at the end of the review, one also puts the name and address of the store, publisher and cost of the book so that readers may order or buy it directly from the store or publisher. I also suggest trying to keep hyperbole out of the review like "the greatest book since the Bible.." as newspapers do not like it when they feel a review is too extreme or one-sided. Try to be neutral or balanced to a degree so that the review appears positive but objective. | ||
James the truthseeker |
Greetings Andrew, As far as polygamy goes, I'd have to say that my choice would still be that of monlogamy because it would be much easyer for me to focus on just one woman(relationship) instead of two. Though in this life time, I find it even easier to just remain single and celibate, as I have being through-out my life. The reason for this is because of Earth being a dangerious place with all its diseases, etc. The second reason being, It's just hard to find someone out there as rlationships in this world are often a double edged sword. On one side, you got people who are conservative religious, then on the other side you got poeple who are liberated addects(smokers, drinkers, drugers, etc. The social struture of this planet just never felt right with me. Now concering the Plejarans. More Questions.. -Do they remain celibate until married? -Do they experience many partners before they get married? -Is every wife allowed to have 3 children each? Also concerning the the plejarans. -By any chance will they assest humanity here with the cure for the original sin gene? I sure hope they do. Peace in wisdom, James the truthseeker | ||
Anthony Alagna |
Hello James T. Truthseeker, Some great questions you ask; but I think you know some of the answers yourself. No doubt you make a good observation; and I think you are on the right track trying to focus on one female for now. Keep in mind that the Pleiadians are much more advanced than us with a higher ability to focus. And I think they would be able to put much more concentration into a number of marriages, than the average male of Earth could put into one. And considering the current overpopulation of Earth, I think it is wise that you are remaining single and celibate. The majority of people today do not recognize the opportunity for experience over many lifetimes; and somehow think that they only have this life to "get their share" of sexual relationships. How sad. In my mind, the important thing today for people to do is explore the natural selection of polygamy in their heads, without necessarily physically jumping into it. If you don't mind, you ask.... "Do they (the Pleiadians) remain celibate until married?" I would have to say YES. Keep in mind the Pleiadians have a long lifespan and are also aware of reincarnation. They would realize that they have "been there, done that, bought the T-shirt long ago," and therefore would not feel rushed or pressured into having sex. I would think that they would save this experience for deeper relationships, instead of looking at it as a simple pleasure. Is every wife allowed to have 3 children each? I would have to say NO. Creation sets no limits on a person's free will, as well as the number of children a couple may produce. However, it may be wise at the time to stick to three kids or less. But who is counting? Best regards, Anthony | ||
James the truthseeker |
Greetings Anthony. As far as relationships go, I'd have to say that through-out my life, I've always preferred quality rather then quantity. The plejarans obviously live a life of quality. Sense my early teens, I always felt there was something very wrong with life itself and also in regarding earth human relationships. It seems next to impossible to find a partner who cultivates within, that sexual-love purity. I do not object to sexuality it-self , however the social structure of this planet just never felt right with me in to many ways. I just wish we could some how find or get this cure to the original sin gene(the biggest horror of Earth). Secondly I wish there was a way to leave Earth physically so I could live a more peacefull existence els where. If I had the choice of leaving the earth, not even Bill Gate's wealth x 3 could ever convence me to stay here. There must be worlds out there more live-able then this one. Fortunitly there are a few good people here. Unfortunitly most women I've met feel they HAVE to have children. Peace in wisdom, James the truthsweeker | ||
Anthony Alagna |
Hello James, Fortunately, there are many good people here on planet Earth. The only problem right now is that the majority of them are not aware of Creation, and It's laws and recommendations; and are stuck dependant on religion and things. If it seems impossible for you to find a partner, why not try something else? Be different, and find happiness in being single. It's a shame that nearly everyone on this planet feels that they must find a mate as a necessary goal in life; after all, there are plenty of lifetimes to be in marriages, to be a responsible husband and father. No doubt you have been there before. Personally, I take this current lifetime to work on myself; and spend most of my time alone, with little time for a wife/wives, kids, pets, an SUV or a house with a white picket fence; my peers must think I'm strange, stuck-up, or whatever, but I don't care what they think about me; I only care what I think about me. I agree with you, there must be more liveable worlds out there; but guess what, there must also be a lot worse in the Universe. Be careful where you land. But wouldn't it be grand to stay here for now and fight to make this tiny blue planet Earth a shining beacon of "peace in wisdom" in the Universe, on the same line as planet Erra? I'll take that "away mission." How about YOU? Don't get me wrong, I'd leave everything behind here in a heartbeat to be a space traveling alien; only I'm not looking to run away from a few problems. So I daydream everyday about being a member (like Captain Picard) of a small crew of Creationally aware spiritual beings in the Federation, equipped with a reliable starship, useful technology, and a mission to practise the Truth in many systems. I'm just not a farmer. So I reach for the stars too... Best regards, Anthony | ||
Brock Bradford |
Good thoughts Anthony We are all of us stuck on this nutty planet...it is a challenge to make it a peaceful and loving place...what else can we do….this project may take many lifetimes... And much inner work . May somehow we who inhabit this planet realize a common dream and pursue it.... Here is a question...do we have a common dream? Brock | ||
Chris Frank |
I hear you both. It could very easily be a common dream. I too think about it a lot, I have ever since I was a little child. | ||
James the truthseeker |
Greetings Anthony, Much compassion for the humman race and for all those people who do make Earth a better place. I say a few good people in relation to the world population. I should point out, another main reason I'd like to leave Eath is because I'm afraid to reincarnate here. My childhood was a difficult one and with most people, I've seen alot worse then myself. I just dread the thought of having to reincarnate here to another disfuntional family. It kind of really makes me think of all those people being born in parts of the world were people are dying of hunger and war. Imagine having to be born in Afghanistan! A number of women I've met have gone through unbearable hell. I realize I'm a citizen of Earth and will try to make this world a better place, but I have to admitt, my dreams are in the stars. Peace in wisdom James the truthseeker | ||
Anthony Alagna |
Hi James, At least you are thinking this far ahead; but No Fear dude. Take some heart with a few lovely words from Semjase, a real space traveler, from the 10th Contact: "121. The human who adheres to Creation's laws is the most blessed and most fearless being." "122. His will is insurmountable, his dedication immeasurable and endless, and his wisdom and love are constant and perfect, not capricious and full of doubts, like it is the case with those who are dependent from religions or generally those who are led astray in some way." "123. His mind resembles the wide, endless sea and does not let itself come out of its rest." "124. He does not tremble with fear." Hey fellow spaceman, maybe you can also gain some wisdom about making your future from a couple of brave Jedi Knights from the Episode I Star Wars science fiction story? Qui-Gon Jinn "Don't center on your anxieties, Obi-Wan, keep your concentration 'Here and Now' where it belongs." Obi-Wan Kenobi "...but master Yoda said I should be mindful of the future?" Qui-Gon Jinn "But not at the expense of the moment. Be mindful of the living Force, young Padiwan." Best regards, Anthony "Wanna be Jedi and Podracer" | ||
Jean Pierre Lagasse |
Hi all, Regarding one aspect of polygamy as best as I understand it presently: It allows any "unattached" woman a chance to have a formal relationship with any male of her choice, whether this male is "attached" or not. Males do NOT have this option with females. If a female is having a ralationship with a male, she is "off-limits" to all other males. Perhaps polygamy favours the woman's choice in males...? JP | ||
Anthea Cossette |
Hi JP ... I want to add that, according to my own understanding, it is the male's sole prerogative to pursue/initiate the love relationship with the (unattached) interested female, it is not a carte-blanche situation for the woman to pursue the male. Kind Regards, Anthea | ||
James the truthseeker |
Greetings Anthony, Thanks for the info, I've read these contact notes yet I've somewhat forgot reading this part of it until now. This is assuming of course one can become more subject to the creation rather then to the environment of Earth humanity. Interesting enough, sence my last trip to Mt.Shasta about a month or so ago, I decided to persue even more in the direction of learning the teachings of Tibetan Dzogchen(Zoe-chen). Whats interesting about that is these teachings actually say about the same thing you've quoted here from Semjase. The more I learn this stuff, the more I can see a parallel with Semjase's wisdom and Dzogchen. Dzogchen supposedly means "wisdom of creation". It was supposedly introduced to Tibet from an advanced Aryan race many thousands of years ago. I'm not sure exactly when. Even the meditations are strikingly similar to that I find with the FIGU. So in many ways you could probably say Billy and the plejarons are Dzogchenists. The meditations being very simple yet very efective. Ex. Dzogchen teaches that fear is often the result of accepted human obscurities not relating in anyway to truth. Such accepted conditions or untruths, does not and never has changed what truth-perfection really is and always was, etc. Peace in wisdom, James the truthseeker | ||
James the truthseeker |
Greetings Jean Pierre, That sure is a good perspective regarding polygamy. On the one hand, men have the choice of more then one woman, thus he is entitled to not limit himself to just one "unattached" woman, where-as women are not limited to any one man weather he is attached or unattached. So there can be advantages to both sides. However, everyone is then limited as to the number of mates per man, or are they? I heard from Wendelle Stevens himself, that Billy now has up to 5 or 6 different wives, thus Billy's first wife left him because she felt very uncomfortable with this. Unfortunitly some people including Billy's now ex-first wife, views this as a cult like setting with the FIGU, because its just beyond everyones way of thinking. Again it would seem that most people here would sure need to be very clear with themselves before persuing any type of relationship. Peace in wisdom, James the truthseeker | ||
Andrew C. Cossette |
Hello James, To be sure, Billy is only married to ONE wife. This kind of imprudent information should not be spread, especially if it is hearsay(!). Polygamy is illegal in many countries! Regarding polygyny/polygamy, my wife, Anthea, is correct in that the male/positive pole pursues and engages the female/negative pole and not the other way around (in fact, this would be backwards behaviour on the woman's part). And yes, once the/a woman is married, she is bound to the male. According to Natural Laws, the negative pole then becomes a part of the positive pole and not vice versa. Further, however, is the fact that a female and another female may join in a sexual union together even without one (or the other) being married to the initial man. I hope this helps. Regards, Andrew C. Cossette |
