| Author | Message | ||
    MARTIN |
HELLO:. BILLY. DID YOU KNOW ABOUT SEPT,11 BE-FOR HAND?. | ||
Jean Pierre Lagasse |
Hello Martin, Your question was on our minds as well.. amongst others. Please consider this: ANYBODY with any accurate knowledge beforehand of the 9/11 event would (& should be) heavily investigated by the "authorities"... for several good "logical" reasons. Also, there is/was a forum string on this topic existing on this forum already. The "official response" was given in Bulletin 36 Hope this helps a bit... JP | ||
MARTIN |
jean pierr: I WAS LOOKING FOR SOMETHING FROM BILLY ON THIS! ESP,PSI,RV..! IF ANY BODY DID KNOW ABOUT THIS!I WOULD NOT LIKE TO BE INVESTIGATED IF I HAD PSI,ESP,RV..! BUT BILLY DID HAVE SOME PHOTOS OF SAN-FAN TOWER FROM ONE OF HIS TRIPS RIGHT???. IN THE 70S-80S..* | ||
martin |
jp why did you not put on my comments to your comments??? do you know the photo i told you about? the one of the san-fan tower made by billy on one of trips in time! in the 70s and to tell you about not anybody with knowledge of sept,11 be investgated. who had seen it some time a go with esp,psi,rv, rv-time seeing... (someing to think about for someone right?!) | ||
Jean Pierre Lagasse |
Hi Martin, I'm not sure what you are asking... Do have a specific question? JP | ||
Scott B. |
Hello Martin & JP Yes Martin you are correct there does exist photos which were taken by Billy during a time trip with Quetzal to San Francisco. As has been stated before (from my understanding) the San Francisco earthquake was considered to be a prediction. This differs in the sense that it cannot be changed versus a probability which can be changed. It could be that the Twin Towers event at the time Billy did his time traveling may have been only a probability and didnt exist to the degree that pictures were taken of the event. To me it would have been a significant event noteworthy of taking photos if it was destined to happen, but then again its hard to know for sure. Just a few thoughts Salome Scott B. | ||
MARTIN |
SCOTT B. THANK YOU: THATS MORE LIKE IT !. WAS BILLY TOLD ABOUT THIS IN SOME TIME IN THE PAST?? ON A TIME TRIP,ETC WITH SEMJASE/PLEJAREN!,? WELL J.P WHAT DO YOU KNOW??. | ||
gurujay |
HI ALL, My question here refers to the the SF Pictures which Billy did take of the San Francisco earthquake, are these pictures hidden in secrecy or are they available in FIGU SEMJASE Silver start Center for all to see?? Does anyone know... Scott B., Jean Pierre?? and if these Pictures are available, I am definitely going to take my Trip to the Silver Star Center to see them  | ||
Chris Frank |
I, too, remember something about pictures (this was a few years ago) but what strikes back at me is that the critics said that those couldn't be pictures of New York because there were no Trade Towers in the pictures. On the day of the event, when the Trade Towers were lost, my mind flashed back to that picture and the critics comments. But I can't remember where I had seen the pictures. | ||
Mark Campbell |
Hi gurujay ; The photos of San Fransico were are all destroyed by the Plejarens for security reasons . Regards , Mark | ||
Scott B. |
Hello Mark & Gurujay Yes as far as I know the pictures were confiscated by the Plejarens. The only thing that Im aware of at this point is the pictures displayed in Wendelle Stevens book. These pictures were actually drawings/sketches and not actual photos. I posted this image in the forum last year, but Im not sure where it is now..... Scott | ||
Scott B. |
Hello Mark & Gurujay Yes as far as I know the original pictures taken by Billy were confiscated by the Plejarens. The only image that I'm aware of at this point is the picture displayed in Wendelle Stevens book. This picture was actually a drawing/sketch and not an actual photo. Also I wanted to make a correction on my earlier post of Dec 17. I meant to say the photos did exist and were in possession by Billy at one time. I didn't mean to say they existed now. I posted this image on the forum last year, but Im not sure where it is now..... Scott | ||
Jay Olivieri |
Hi Scott B., Thanks for the details on the SF Pictures, I am sure that these pictures needed to be confiscated for the sake of Future events that may cause conflict with our future outlook. Thanks Scott and BE WELL PS: My former name was "gurujay", due to conflicts with my registration account I am now under the name JAY thanks to Marc Juliano for fixing this issue. | ||
JAY |
To all, Here is some positive information that is HOPI related which I found online linked to Meier in some ways, click on the link below or read it in detail below link: http://www.crystalinks.com/hopi2.html Shaman Standing Elk, who receives messages from benevolent Star Beings inside the sweat lodges. He says that the Native Americans are here to keep us from making the same disastrous environmental mistakes he claims the aliens did long ago. The Hopi Indians are the Record Keepers of the Native Americans. The Hopis call this the "The Fourth Age of Man". According to them the earth has been wipped clean 3 times already. First by Fire, next by Ice, most recently by the flood... approximately 11,000-12,000 years ago. Some believe that the actual date of the flood occured on June 5, 8498 BC. According to the Hopis we are about to enter "The Fifth Age", which they call "The World of Illumination", which seems to coincide with the dawning of the Age of Aquarius. The Hopis say that there will be two more worlds after this. "The Sixth Age" which is "The World of Prophecy and Revelation" and "The Seventh Age" which is "The World of Completion". The Native Americans have been not only the forefathers of we Americans who came to this country a few hundred years ago but they have been the Keepers of the Earth for a long period of time. What they believe is very sacred to us. This knowledge is re-emerging at this time in the earth's history. The Hopi believe that they descended from the Pleiades and that even before that they came from Lyra which is the Ring Nebula that the Pleiadians have spoken to Billy Meier about. They call Lyra the "Eye of God". I hope this feeds your minds.... BE WELL | ||
JAY |
Hi all, A really interesting concept came to mind for me today while thinking about nature and its sorroundings, is almost like a strong thought revelation relating to nature and how we perceive re-inventing of our scientifical as well as technological advancedments. I was in the office sitting and thinking about all my PLEJARAN Beamship pictures I have saved from FIGU and other sources and how the descriptions of flight manuevers of the Beamships worked. It came to mind that Bees and Flies alike have the same flight maneuvering qualities as those of the BEAMSHIPS... has anyone here gave that a thought througout any meditative state??. Anyway, I have noticed from some of the short film footage, the BEAMSHIPS take the same natural quality as those of the flies and bees!!, I am refering basically to how the ships jump from one area in flight to another and how they move around in flight. I remember the statements made by SEMJASE and the others in my own words, by observing nature and creation we can advance and be in harmony with the all. We will be able to have the means and the technology in harmony with nature to reach the same goals. As I contemplated these insects and the way they live amongst nature, the idea hit me right smack in my mind as a concept in which Scientist can look into for an advance means and way of transportations capabilities. It sounds quite odd the way I see this but look at the way these birds and Insects (Flies and the like) travel in nature. They seem to almost manipulate space and time real well . Using the fuels and materials for flight technology as we see it, seems to be some what quite off in the concepts of CREATION and I think we need to re-establish another way of looking at this by observing and analyzing the small and fragile creatures to be able to manifest the same in our technologies, can anyone here agree with me on this?? BE WELL to all | ||
Hampton Hsien-Ting Chiu |
Hi All: I have an interesting time travel theory to share.... Remember Ptaah told Mr. Meier that he knows ancient Greek when Mr. Meier visit the huge space station? Did Ptaah go back to ancient Greek and change the history? If so, he must have done it according to our timeline only few hundred years ago, since he is less than 800 year old. But if ancient Greek history is changed, which is about 2500 to 3000 years ago, the whole time line of ours will be changed. So Ptaah affected our timeline from 3000 years ago to now only at less 500 years ago? Some people told me the past can never be changed, but if Ptaah did it, I am sure he can did it again, maybe needs approval from high council, but it is possible. If that is the case, our future decendants could travel back time and change our history? Any opinion? Hampton Chiu | ||
Norm |
I don't think Ptaah changed history, he may have gone there for research. Anyway it seems like wild speculation on your part. | ||
JAY |
Guys, I think also he did not change history In greece, if that was the case I do not want to blame PTAAH for the way the system in greece was at that time and give him a bad name. | ||
Hampton Hsien-Ting Chiu |
Hi I think Greece demacracy concept is unique in the whole planet, the whole asia and africa did not come close to any demacratic system like Greece did, which Roman adapt well in the beginning. Egypt, China and India, three oldest countries in this planet, never establish any demacratic system in the past 5000 years until 50 years ago, only in some small city in Greece at that time has voting system and believe that each citizen has equal right. Maybe that is my fantasy, but I thought it might be a good question next time. Peace. Hampton | ||
Scott Whitney |
Hi Hampton, I wonder what leads you to speculate that Ptaah may have changed Greek history? My guess is that there was quite a bit of ET intervention in ancient Greece, but I have never come across anything to lead me to believe that the Pleiadians changed any history there. Scott | ||
Norm |
I hate when people make wild guess's on this forum. Next we will have someone 5 years from now say that its true and Billy said it! | ||
Jean Pierre Lagasse |
Hi Hampton, My best understanding (so far) of "temporal mechanics" is that: If someone from our present travelled back in time & altered it, then came back to our present: The present would be exactly the same as before the time travel journey. In other words, the present would not change. Now, here is the interesting thing: The time journey to the past & the alteration did change something alright... but what??? Some other "timeline"??? I have absolutely no info on this... at least that I know of. Also, if a person again went back in time but arrived in the past a day after the first trip, would his "induced change" still be there??? Perhaps, if both journeys were relative to the present??? The "disappearing tree" was the result of "extra technology" that the Plejarens possess. In other words, when we finally develope time travel, we still won't be able to alter the present by altering the past... until we develope this "extra technology"... ??? hmm... From what I recall reading, the tree's molecules/atoms? were removed from the present, through to when the tree was removed... or something like that?? Now... here is yet another interesting thing: If a person from the present travels to the future & meets himself... then comes back to the present: Would the present person eventually meet himself from the (present now) past? I have absolutely no idea presently(!), but it's yet another of many interesting questions, at least in my mind. I welcome any ideas, comments, & (especially) corrections etc. !!! Regards, JP | ||
Claes Elmberg |
Hello Norm and JP and all, I think that speculation is a part of contemplation and can be helpful as long as we clearly state that it is our own opinion. Maybe in some cases things need to be spoken or written to realize if it’s correct or incorrect I have clearly seen in my life that sometimes I don’t realize that my understanding of something is completely wrong until I have hear myself saying it. Then I realize my misunderstanding and can drop the concept. One way of learnig from making mistakes. JP, I met a friend in Australia who had practiced meditation for years . When he was about 20 he had a gun pointed to his head and was going to commit suicide. Before he pulled the trigger a voice within explained to him why he should continue living and what he should do with his life. He got his life in order. Years later he experianced in meditation that he went back in time or projected his consciousness back and gave himself this message 10 years before. He did not meet himself in physical form. He now does good work helping people to develop themselves. I don’t know if he has understood this experience correctly but it’s something to contemplate on. He is a very conscious person with a lot of sensitivity and knowing and he seems to have naturally developed some kind of future knowledge of his own future. LOVE & LIGHT, //Claes | ||
Jean Pierre Lagasse |
Hi Claes, It now seems many years ago, when in a meditation I went back in time (or so it seemed at the time) & "injected" a thought into the mind of a (supposed) previous incarnation of mine. The imagery was quite clear... & the result was immediate (into the present), or so it seemed. However, when I now look back at this, I cannot say that this was a "real" event. It very possibly was simply my own mind generating all the appropriate visualizations & thoughts to represent this as a "time travel" experience. There is simply no way to "comparatively measure" or verify the "reality" of these types of experiences. Some part of my mind might have "cooked" the entire thing up!!! Mind you, the result seemed "positive", so this "event/experience" may have been useful either way. In my past experiences with a particular meditation group, I reached a stage where all sorts of dream images & thoughts occured. These were all pure fantacies from my mind, or "garbage" stuff. Some of these were quite vivid with profound thoughts... interesting stuff. Others in this meditation group thought these types of things were "real" though, communications from god etc. I suspect that a few of these people still believe they actually communicated with ET's, their "guides" etc. Although I do not wish to question the validity of your friend's experience, I do wish to point out that we must question all our own thoughts & experiences. Our minds can play tricks on us !!! Thanx for your comments, JP | ||
Hampton Hsien-Ting Chiu |
Hi Scott and Norm: No need to be upset, I am not saying Ptaah did go back to ancient Greece. The fact is that our 'God'(King of Wisdom), Ptaah, learned ancient Greek, why? Maybe he is bored in the space station and want to learn something new? Why Samjase learn German? Obviously she did that for contacting Mr. Meier, did Ptaah learn ancient Greek because he need to contact someone in ancient Greece? If he just want to investigate something, he can use language translator, but he can only use telepathic mean to communicate. It would take him 30 days to learn a new language, and 30 days for our extremely busy 'God' is so precious, unless it is really necessary for him to talk to someone face to face, and it is so important that no one else can do it. Of course, this is my major assumption, and I am curious about the motive and consequences. All these questions are my logical base of time travel theory, every theory needs some logic as base, just like the source code in any software. And my time travel theory will evolve through the answers to those questions, I plan to put those questions to Mr. Meier in next few rounds of questions. Peace. Hampton Chiu | ||
Scott Whitney |
Hi Hampton, I am not upset. I was merely asking you to explain why you thought that Ptaah may have changed Greek history. I don't think speculation is a bad thing. But if you present a theory, some background explanation would be helpful. I think it is a big jump in speculation from someone learning a language to changing history thru time travel. So I just was wondering what your thought process was - or if you can point to something in the material to give weight to your theory. Generally, I like to 'stick to the facts' with the Meier material, but I am open to new ideas if there is supporting info. Scott | ||
Hampton Hsien-Ting Chiu |
Hi Mr. Whitney: I agree with what you posted, I like to 'stick to the facts' too. But I think both Mr. Meier and Ptaah will only tell you what they want you to know, not all the details, for example, Mr. Meier will not tell everyone without being asked that his last several incarnations included Immanuel and Muhammand. Mr. Meier and Ptaah will not lie, I believe, but they are very evasive in providing answers to our question, so I think it is still a good practice to ask a lot of bold questions. And bold questions are based on assumptions. Peace. Hampton Chiu | ||
Edward |
Hi Hampton, I am very interested in your posting of the Democracy. I have read a history book once and it concerned a Royal Officer..that had to go to North America after Christepher Columbus discovered America...from his european country. His mission was to Record what he would find there. The more he went inland..the more he came to meeting the Indian folk that lived there. He recorded what he saw and how they lived and how they 'Governed' themselves. The tribe(s) he came across Governed themselves..by "Elections". They chose a Head-Chief...and from there...a Councel was fromed of some...number of members. And from hereon...there were other branched levels..to help Govern the tribe and all it's peoples. So as we can notice...it is what we call a Democarcy Voting System! Surprsing...to some I would think? I was surprised when reading this. So..the Royal Officer went back to his country in Europe and informed his King and Queen. And the Royal Officer even mentioned to Utilize this Systeem..in his country...but one of his College's said: "If you want to keep your Head...don't mention such thing to the King or Queen!" Which we can make out to be very wise..because the 'Monarchy' was the ruler of his country(like in other parts of Europe). The only thing he 'Borrowed' from the Indians were and that came into realization...was that his country was the First in the Western World to Divide it's country in "Provincies"...which we know now as "State(s)". So it seem to be a Fact...that North America was Indeed Already... Divided into to States. I am not sure how many. It was either 400 or 500 States. Somewhere in that area. I thought you may find this interesting. Edward. |
