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    Scott Moderator Post Number: 658 Registered: 07-2000 |
Hello, This quotation came from President Bush's recent June 28 Speech: "We have more work to do, and there will be tough moments that test America's resolve. We're fighting against men with blind hatred -- and armed with lethal weapons -- who are capable of any atrocity. They wear no uniform; they respect no laws of warfare or morality. They take innocent lives to create chaos for the cameras." My question is who are we talking about here? Regards Scott | ||
Joseph_emmanuel Member Post Number: 89 Registered: 05-2004 |
Hi, I live in London and thankfully I can say I was no where near the bombings. This morning people have gone into work as normal, determined not to be terrorized by anyone. I'm already cynical about the whole thing and don't necessarily share everyone's current opinion on the matter: that it was masterminded by al qaeda. However, I will never know the truth, and I don't that anyone will. Initially I suspected the French because they lost out to hosting the Olympics. But now I think that this was probably planned in order to drum up support for another attack. I can tell you honestly that this doesn't phase me one bit (but then I wasn't affected by it). Blair will not have my support for his corrupt intentions and neither will Bush. On the other hand, I find it very difficult to believe that British politics is behind this, like American politics seems to have been behind 9/11. But there has been so much deception going on I don't know what to think. It has caused me to remain at a distance and not take sides. I don't condone any killing, not even in defence. But what is about to happen is going to be inevitable. I think that is clear. | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 659 Registered: 07-2000 |
Hi Joseph, I share your cynicism and mistrust of the whole situation. At first I was somewhat hesitant to believe anything regarding 911, but as time has gone on I truly suspect things are not as we have been told. There were too many incongruities and witnesses who provided an alternative viewpoint. At this point I am inclined to evaluate any explanation as a possibility except the official one. Regards Scott | ||
Eric_drouin Member Post Number: 87 Registered: 05-2004 |
Hi: Here you go! It is starting: linking Iran and terrorism http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2089-1688013,00.html Interesting note: there was report that Nethanyanu was told by secret services to stay at the hotel , the day of the bombing... Salome Eric | ||
Cpl Member Post Number: 104 Registered: 08-2004 |
Here are two different articles on the London bombings that you might find interesting: http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/july2005/090705bombingexercises.htm http://signs-of-the-times.org/signs/signs20050707.htm | ||
Tjames Member Post Number: 72 Registered: 12-2004 |
I went to your article cpl and then today from this Ireland news source I read that Alex Jones is... well you can see for yourself... http://wagnews.blogspot.com/2005/07/alex-jones-is-wrong-on-london-terror.html Salome, Tim | ||
Markc Member Post Number: 206 Registered: 06-2000 |
HI Joseph ; I had the same thought about someone from France being behind it . The expected response of course, being, to attack someone , even the wrong ones , propagating more revenge . mark Mark Campbell | ||
Cpl Member Post Number: 106 Registered: 08-2004 |
Thanks, Tj. | ||
Phil638 Member Post Number: 66 Registered: 07-2004 |
Hi Joseph_emmanuel and Scott, if you go to this page and click on the radio interview tab and then listen to the first radio interview Dr David R Siminton is giving, I'm sure you will have no doubt about wether or not the U.S. itself was behind the 9/11 attacks on its own people. I highly recommend anyone listen to it as its the best I've ever heard on the matter. http://www.principalityofcamside.cc/main.htm phil | ||
Joseph_emmanuel Member Post Number: 95 Registered: 05-2004 |
Last Saturday I was visited by Jehovah’s Witnesses, and not being the sort of person to turn anyone away, I stood talking to one of them about the ways of the world. They believe that one day they will live without fear, expressing their disdain for our morally lax society. Of course, it isn’t difficult to appreciate their disgust, for often I feel as though I am living on borrowed time, and that I should be thankful for living, seeing as I could one day find myself in a potentially uncalled-for, life-threatening situation. After all, why wouldn’t I be affected by the disorder politicians seem to be willing to ignore or make worse? Are those who are affected victims by fate? Is it in their spiritual destiny to have their lives suddenly cut short? I don’t see myself as ever being a victim of any crime or misfortune. But why wouldn’t I be? I am just as liable. If tomorrow the world were to go to war, almost certainly I would become a victim. Could I not then also become a victim of some mindless fool with knife or a gang of happy slappers? Sometimes I find it difficult to relate to life, I feel it is abstract, especially when I read in the paper about someone who has been killed in an accident, or murdered, and there is a photograph of the person taken only a few hours before. I can’t make sense of such an occurrence because it shows human life to be as precarious as the life of an animal, or the life of an insect, where one moment it is going about its business and the next…, and therefore not as exclusive as we imagine it to be. But we are not ants that we should be deliberately or inadvertently stepped on. Human life is precious, and its vulnerability should compel us to protect it rather than expose it | ||
Phil638 Member Post Number: 74 Registered: 07-2004 |
Joseph_emmanuel, did you have a listen to that radio interview link I gave you about the 9/11 attacks which was in regards to your prior posting about you finding it difficult to believe that American politics were behind 9/11? That radio interview should put things into perspective there for you. In regards to your comments there about people and yourself being victims of fate and if there was such a thing as fate too. I'm not sure wether your saying that you believe in fate there or not, but I'm pretty sure I remember reading somewhere in the Meier material that there is no such thing as fate hanging over anyone's head. phil | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 682 Registered: 12-1999 |
Hello, Does the possibility exist that Hurricane Katrina was a manufactured event? As time goes on there seems to be more and more inconsistencies. Considering the mounting evidence regarding 9/11, I believe anything is possible at this point.. http://www.rense.com/general67/planned.htm http://www.rense.com/general67/painful.htm Regards Scott | ||
Kingman Member Post Number: 19 Registered: 07-2004 |
Hi Scott, My personal opinion is that it started naturally but with technology they were able to guide it towards the Gulf region where our petroleum infrastructsure would be temporarily disabled. Who benefits? The petroleum stockholders, where dragging their feet to repair the damage make more money. Less oil available=higher oil prices. The one event that can't point to maniputating the market, 'acts of god'. Some reports from victims of the storm, who lived near the broken levees, say they heard explosions when the water first came flooding in. This area, the Ninth District, is the poorest area and had been a constant source of problems for the city and who local developers wished to evict. Unable to remove them legally, the storm provided the energy for destroying the area and re-open the plans to control the real estate for the rich. To top it all off, no-bid contracts once again go to the corporate friends of Bush. This will be billions more these leeches will suck off the American taxpayers. One final note. The levees didn't collapse until a day AFTER the storm had passed. Only structural engineers with experience will be able to decide why the levees broke. But we probably won't ever hear any independant results from them, only Bush appointed investigators. The general feeling of friends and others around me says this must be the final event before the fall of Bush. I think that we are in for other devious deeds of these criminals a friend in america Shawn | ||
David_chance Member Post Number: 77 Registered: 03-2003 |
In FIGU Bulletin 15 there is discussion from Contact 260 regarding HAARP and how it was used to influence the 1998 El Nino from a natural occurence to a highly destructive form: http://www.figu.org/de/figu/bulletin/15/leserfragen.htm Something, I think, to consider in regards to Katrina, especially given its unusual movements. Nothing would surprise me as to what the criminals in power in the USA would do in order to achieve their aims of money, power & control. | ||
Kingman Member Post Number: 20 Registered: 07-2004 |
Here's some additional info regarding the New Orleans levee's history and it seems like a repeating scenario. From: www.prisonplanet.com/Pages/090905levees.htm Dynamite? History repeating itself? Many locals have come forward to suggest that the levees were breached on purpose by the authorities. Resident Andrea Garland, now re-located to Texas, wrote in her blog: "Also heard that part of the reason our house flooded is they dynamited part of the levee after the first section broke - they did this to prevent Uptown (the rich part of town) from being flooded. Apparently they used too much dynamite, thus flooding part of the Bywater. So now I know who is responsible for flooding my house - not Katrina, but our government." This scenario is not so crazy as it sounds, in fact this exact thing has happened before in the same city. In 1927, the Mississippi River broke its banks in 145 places, depositing water at depths of up to 30ft over 27,000 square miles of land. The disaster changed American society, shifting hundreds of thousands of delta-dwelling blacks into northern cities and cementing the divisions and suspicions that benign neglect has ensured remain today. New OrleansÕ (mainly white) business class pressurized the state to dynamite a levee upstream, releasing water into (mainly black) areas of the delta. Black workers were forced to work on flood relief at gunpoint, like slaves. Two parishes, St. Bernard and Plaquemines, which had a combined population of 10,000, were destroyed. Just before Katrina, these parishes had about 10 times the 1927 population. Both parishes are now under many feet of water. This information is covered in depth in a book by John M. Barry entitled Rising Tide: The Great Mississippi Flood of 1927 and how it Changed America, 1997 which has incidentally become heavily in demand after Katrina. Furthermore, levees were also intentionally broke after Hurricane Betsy struck New Orleans in 1965, admittedly with less of an impact. Engineers have now punched holes in several levees in parts of New Orleans where flood levels were higher than the water in drainage canals leading to Pontchartrain, in order to let water flow out. Explosions? There were reports of many explosions heard in New Orleans, officials say they were transformers blowing up. Total Information Analysis has reported a claim by intelligence expert Tom Heneghen that 25 earwitnesses cited explosions immediately before the levee breach. Similar reports are now appearing in many web blogs: "He also mentioned that right before the mass flood there was a loud sound like an explosion." - News from St. Bernard "I'll tell you the worst thing I've heard and I heard it from my mother. She said she heard several blasts - big booms - right before the levees broke. Several blasts and then all the water came pouring in." - aangirfan Although these are obviously not authoritative sources of information, it is interesting to note how many local people are reporting this. So interesting in fact that the mainstream has picked up on it in places. The Washington Post reported on the comments of a retired school teacher: "Mullen has a schoolteacher's kindly demeanor, so it was jarring to hear him say he suspected that the levee breaks had somehow been engineered to keep the wealthy French Quarter and Garden District dry at the expense of poor black neighborhoods like the Lower Ninth Ward -- a suspicion I heard from many other black survivors." <snip> Seems like there might be a precedent for the flooding of the poorest areas during large storms. a friend in america Shawn | ||
Norm Member Post Number: 733 Registered: 02-2000 |
Its funny how everthing thing now is a conspiracy. Sorry I just don't buy it. Its no secret that Black people moved north in the 1940s-60s for work. | ||
Kingman Member Post Number: 23 Registered: 07-2004 |
The stories about blowing the levees in the past aren't made up. If it happened then why not now? Media controllers have managed to cheapen and humiliate the term "conspiracy theory" to the point anything with that label is automatically discounted. The disinformation agents are pros at placing slightly quirky stories to enable the real truth to bypass scrutiny. As far as the migration of the blacks north, that's just a side note. a friend in america Shawn | ||
Edward Member Post Number: 533 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi Scott and David... Very perceptive comment of you both!! Personally, it seems to "Smell" from all sides...to me. Mr.Bush's Polling has Shrunk beyond his liking, and more and more of the American population Want Out Of Iraq: and even a majority of his own Republican Party...as Mr. Hagal made very clear, and is very Serious about!!! So, now it seems that elements behind the Curtains..of this Ruling US Government would love to have George...back up higher in the Polls as it should be...to keep "Their Control". Funny, that Katrina...went off her Original Course...and took a Left..instead of the Calculated (Natural) Right!? Well, there are many ways to set her off her Original Course with to days Human Technologies, I would think. The First thing that came into my mind was: Utilization of Detonation Devices. Just utilize a Series of these Detonation Devices on the opposite side of the direction One would like to set it off its course... and Presto..now you have Katrina manifesting itself in a Temporary - Off Course Trajectory!! This can easily be done utilizing Pressure Detonation Devices along side of Katrina's Outer-Rim Spiral. Enough series of detonations would surely Generate enough "Pressure and Explosive" Power to Redirect her in the Opposite Course..Temporarily. These Highly Detonations would not even be noticeable to us on the ground because it would just look like a Natural manifestation of Thunder and Lighting, and so forth; which would seem Natural!! Thus, would just "BLEND-IN"...with Katrina's Visual manifestation. So now, The Blind...can be "Bush Whacked" Again, and see how this ruling US Government is "So Good" to its people in need!! A better (Artificial) Theatrical Performance One can not imagine!!! But again, this is just a/one Possibility. And as Billy and The Plejarans have mentioned over and over, that the Ruling Dictating humans would do ANYTHING...to have and TO KEEP THEIR POWER over the(ir) Enslaved human beings of Earth!!! Even if it be their Own People!!! The Ones With "OPEN EYES"....KNOW...HOW THIS RULING US GOVERNMENT OPERATES...by now!! Not? It is just IN The NATURE OF - THE BEAST - !!!!! Edward. | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 685 Registered: 12-1999 |
Hello, Has our technology reached the point of weather by design? http://weatherwars.info/ | ||
Edward Member Post Number: 534 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi Scott... I see this Scott Stevens has come to the exact same conclusion as I have. Most of his research is well known to me, though. But good for him to mention it on his site. All this "Artificial Weather Control" Scenarios... I remember reading and seeing documentaries concerning back in the late 70ties-80ties; as well..America and other countries were trying to generate Artificial RAIN back then(Chemical Mixtures sprayed from planes). I would think that THEY...would have Evolved so far now...to even Generate Storms, and even of greater magnitudes - Hurricanes -. When Billy and the Plejarans mentioned "Man-Made" Catastrophes - Hurricanes....etc...etc...; this could also be meant by Man Generating such phenomenons with his own Human Technologies, and thus not only caused by Man's Stupidious pollution habits and manipulations...and so forth. All this "Artificial Weather Control" Scenarios will Truly manifest in HARSH Consequences. And it's CAUSE....Will have a Magnitude of an EFFECT! When/if Man Manipulates Nature's Weather Patterns...surely Nature will Balance Out herself and strike back to gain her Control again, not? Once again, Man is making The Monster Of Frankenstein! And we all know...what became of Professor Frankenstein himself..in the end, not? BTW: I once watched a movie, can not remember the name, on the television and it was about Controlling Hurricanes. In the movie...some sort of "Control Cylinder" had to be dropped into the eye of the hurricane by plane and when this was done the hurricane could be directed in any direction One wanted it to be directed. But anyway, the Control Cylinder was remote controlled from a ground station computer. And of course, the plot of the movie was that it had gotten into the hands of an adversary, and it had to be eliminated from their possession: You know, that Good Guy...and Bad Guy thing...  But it had some possibilities, the movie. Edward. | ||
Smythstar Member Post Number: 5 Registered: 10-2005 |
Hey guys. Read up on Tesla scalar electromagnetic weapons if you like? http://www.prahlad.org/pub/bearden/scalar_wars.htm Russia certainly possesess HAARP technology they first switched them on in 1976, NATO designation "Woodpecker" over the horizon radars, although they still cant locate their exact position. Nikita Kruschev boasted during the 60s (cuban missle crises) that the Soviet Union possesed several new super weapons that could easily obliterate America, he mentioned one in particular they called "Energia" which could "burn the atmosphere" at any given point on the globe. It is belived that China also possess the technology and that a weather war has been underway for some time. Even the Aum Shinrikio sect in Japan was experimenting with tesla weapons in the Australian desert in the late 90s and caused a nuclear sized explosion over Banjawarn station (Ranch) that registered on seizmoghraphs all over the region, when the area was inspected by fedral authorities no phisical damage was found. Bright skys artical 1-5 http://www.nexusmagazine.com/articles.html Im inclined to think neocons and the Bushes of the world are mearly puppets on a string, a part of a larger agenda. Whos pulling the strings? There are at least 20 levels of security above that of US President! Information is power. | ||
Melli Member Post Number: 28 Registered: 06-2005 |
I was reading in "OM" that "Sons and daughters of heaven mixed with earth people". I would like to understand: Where did the earth people come from?WHY and HOW were we created? The answer as to WHY we were created, I gather is because our forefathers the Plejarens, were experimenting with genetic engineering and so we came to be but WHY were we put on this planet? Maybe we were created as a result of an experiment gone wrong but given the nicest planet to try and evolve and do better for ourselves with their help? is this the reason for the Original Sin? | ||
Memo00 Member Post Number: 177 Registered: 03-2004 |
hi Melli its supposed that humans are created all over the universe as a result of natural evolution of each planet exactly how this happens, i dont know, i have read little translated excerpts from Billy´s books about this, but it is not completely clear to me, when we can finally return to the stars and explore the vastness of the universe, im sure someday we will find some planet in which human life is developing and then we will know for sure how this happens (check the interviews to Billy in the website (i think there are three) and some of your questions will be answered) here on Earth at a certain point of time some ET people who had certain genetic modifications mixed with native humans, we are not the result of an experiment but of very particular and extraordinary circumstances (you can find all the details in contact 251) our forefathers are not the plejaren, but we have the same forefathers as them (from Lyra and Vega) take care |
