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    Edward Member Post Number: 454 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi All.... I just happen to have read some interesting material, concerning a well-known Arabian Astrologer. He seems to be well-known in the Arabian countries, and calculated many events that came to pass, in the past. And thus, is very Credible to many. His calculations for this year was: that President Bush would die by an Assassin's bullet. And in the same period of time Saddam Hussein would also die...all of a sudden. He also mentioned, others would follow..within a short time period. And that the middle East is a Volcano ready to burst open! And in my opinion; if, the above mentioned would be fulfilled..naturally it will get..."All The Puppets Dancing"...as they say. In other words: the fulfillment of the World War Three Scenario, in this case?? This makes me think of the deaths that may occur within the 7 day period, concerning the 4 heads...as was Predicted by Billy and the Plejarans!? This would just be something to keep in mind....I would say. As I did..once post here; from my own Inward Feeling, that Mr.Bush may be in the possibility to be Assassinated also. Thus, we should keep in mind; the Transition of the end of this year - 2005 into 2006 -..if this is to become reality. Hope I'm not spoiling the beginning of this year for you all.... Good Health and True Wisdom to All... Peace To All Creatures....Of Creation. Edward. | ||
Phil638 New member Post Number: 2 Registered: 07-2004 |
hi billy, I'm concerned about wether or not world wide political peacefull ways will be adopted in time before WW3 breaks outs in 2006 and if they aren't if the pjareans will intervene somehow and show there presence just before it does break out in order to stop it? I hope so coz i feel its not the worlds publics fault that we've been mislead and always kept in the dark all this time on this the most vital of matter. I'm sure Ptaah knows its not the greater populations fault here for the predicament we find ourselves in and hope he does something to help us all out in this situation where our existense is at stake. many thanks phil Hello Phil, Billy does not frequent this board to answer questions from forum members. Your best bet is to post this question in the following section: The Mission/"Billy" Eduard Albert Meier"/Your Questions to Billy Answered. Currently this section is closed, but will reopen when the current round of questions is answered. Also, I would like to mention that you might search the archives, because you might find the information you are looking for. There is already a section on the possible 3rd World War, so I have moved your post to that section for the time being. Thanks-Moderator | ||
Michael Member Post Number: 449 Registered: 10-2000 |
Everyone, Please read the following article and check to see if it you think it is accurate. http://rense.com/general62/amtr.htm And, of course, these toxic policies were birthed in the demented, addled brains of delusional religious zealots who think that a presumed Creator of the universe has bestowed a special authority upon, and commanded a special (typically bloodthirsty) mission for, a particular country, religious group or imbecile leader. There is nothing that more clearly illustrates the warnings given to Meier in the Henoch Prophecies about the fate of our country being linked to it's insane policies of aggression. (See: http://nexusmagazine.com/articles/Henoch%20Prophecies.html) It also lends weight to the new article from Meier "Catastrophic Elections in the USA - and Terror Everywhere" that will soon be available in an official English translation. In plain language, once again, the laws of cause and effect cannot be fooled. There is also no amount of feel good, New Age prattle and nonsense about "space brothers" coming to "save us", "ascension", "going into the fourth dimension", etc. that can substitute for the cold hard reality that WE are responsible for ourselves...and the direction of our country. MH Michael Horn | ||
Cpl Member Post Number: 48 Registered: 08-2004 |
Hi Michael, I thorougly agree with your end comment. I'm not surprised at the rense article, though it is very sobering, and implies the USA is already walking the path to WW III. | ||
Technod Member Post Number: 11 Registered: 07-2003 |
good day all, from my understanding thus far. religeon,being the cause of earth human decline from the effect of mans stunted understanding of ones own ability to evolve with peace and love thru the knowledge gained from the expirence of life.a puppetmaster and his strings can demonstrate how from a distance the puppet seems alive but up close you see that the strings can only control certain parts of the puppet.the limitaions that the puppet master has plays a part in the scene/story that is being portrayed.the bible being the string {seeming quite strong in the wake of 04 u.s eletions}to control most peoples thinking that leads to knowledge, in this scene/story of life.the string in the bible that reads thou shalt not have any othe god must be must be connected to our thinking of space in some way .the re-written writings of the truth that god is said to have a hand in must have taken in to account the limtations of these strings in the coming futures .so as each persons knowledge of life grows like the sunrise each morning my question is about the er-writings,so the ignorant are waiting for a great happenstance war,catastrophy ,to end there story/great deception on the humans of earth ,the great deception being the with-holding of truth that the earth human must have to become a logicl being.when the croweds start to be inundated with the vast amount of information they are reciving via the info.age and takes a closer look at the show of life.will they also look closer at the show that religeon is playing and will the advancement of technology be part of the same story that the bible potrays or is a new brought in,assuming the chip or mark are connected. brian | ||
Hunter Member Post Number: 129 Registered: 03-2004 |
Michael, It is a very interesting article and a hot topic on a couple of other forums I'm in, but I haven't been able to come up with any hard evidence that it's accurate. The original source was the Moscow Times. See: http://context.themoscowtimes.com/stories/2005/01/21/120.html Earlier, they did a story on an alleged invasion of Jordan by Saddam Hussein through Debka which turned out to be a complete hoax. So, while it wouldn't surprise me if this was true, I have to question the source also, as they haven't always been honest. Namaste, Hunter | ||
Hunter Member Post Number: 130 Registered: 03-2004 |
An Inaugural Formula for Endless War By Pat Buchanan Posted: January 26, 2005 © 2005 Creators Syndicate, Inc. Where Woodrow Wilson was going to make the world safe for democracy, George W. Bush is going him one better. President Bush is going to make the whole world democratic. As he declared in his Inaugural Address, our "great objective" is "ending tyranny" on earth. And how does the president propose to achieve it? "So, it is the policy of the United States to seek and support the growth of democratic movements and institutions in every nation and culture, with the ultimate goal of ending tyranny in our world." The president is here asserting a unilateral American right to interfere in the internal affairs of every nation on earth, without regard to whether these nations have threatened us or attacked us. Their domestic politics are now our concern, because if they are not democratic, we are not secure. Let it be said: This is a formula for endless collisions between this nation and every autocratic regime on earth and must inevitably lead to endless wars. And wars are the death of republics. President Bush also plans to badger and hector foreign leaders on the progress they are making, or failing to make, in attaining U.S. standards of liberty and freedom: "We will persistently clarify the choice before every ruler and nation: The moral choice between oppression, which is always wrong, and freedom, which is eternally right. ... We will encourage reform in other governments by making clear that success in our relations will require the decent treatment of their own peoples ..." One awaits with anticipation the next visit of the Saudi crown prince. And as there are at least 50 autocracies or tyrannies in Africa, the Middle East and Asia, questions arise. If President Musharraf refuses to yield dictatorial powers, will Bush sanction Pakistan, and risk his overthrow and transfer of his nuclear weapons to pro-Taliban generals sympathetic to al-Qaida? If Beijing declares its treatment of dissidents to be none of Bush's business, will Bush impose sanctions and enrage a regime ruling 1.3 billion people with whom we have $200 billion in annual trade? When a Chinese fighter crashed a U.S. reconnaissance plane and Beijing held its crew hostage, Bush meekly apologized. Now, he's going to take these xenophobic Chinese communists to the woodshed? If President Putin tells Bush the oligarch Mikhail Khordokovsy will stay in prison and he will decide how elections are run in Russia, what is Bush going to do? Isolate him and drive Russia into the arms of China, as we have already done with our sanctions on Burma? If the Saudis reject democracy, are we going to stop buying their oil? Somewhere, Osama is praying that Bush will undermine the Saudi monarchy, as another democracy-worshiper, Jimmy Carter, helped to undermine the Shah – after whom we got the Ayatollah. President Bush is championing a policy of interventionism in the internal affairs of every nation on earth. But did we not learn from 9-11 that intervention is not a cure for terrorism, it is the cause of terrorism. Clearly, the president does not understand this, or believe it. For, in his inaugural, he describes 9-11 as the day "when freedom came under attack." But Osama bin Laden did not dispatch his fanatics to ram planes into the World Trade Center because he hated our Bill of Rights. He did it because he hates our presence and our policies in the Middle East. President Bush says we have no other choice than to end tyranny on earth because the "survival of liberty in our land increasingly depends on the success of liberty in other lands." But this is ahistorical. The world has almost always been a cesspool of despotisms, but America has always been free. We have retained our liberty by following the counsel of Washington and staying out of foreign wars that were not America's wars. It has been when we intervened in wars where our vital interests were not imperiled – crushing the Philippine insurrection, World War I, invading Iraq – that America has come to grief. Occupying the Philippines led us to intervention in Asia, war with Japan and, soon after, wars to defend the South Korean and Indochinese remnants of the Japanese empire. Wilson's war gave us the Versailles peace treaty that tore a defeated Germany apart and imposed unpayable debts on her people, leading directly to Hitler. The invasion of Iraq has reaped a harvest of hatred in the Arab world, cost us 10,000 dead and wounded and $200 billion, and created a new training ground and haven for terrorists to replace the one we cleaned out in Afghanistan. In declaring it to be America's mission in the world to end tyranny on earth, President Bush is launching a crusade even more ambitious and utopian than was Wilson's. His crusade, too, will end, as Wilson's did, in disillusionment for him and tragedy for his country. http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=42557 | ||
Michael Member Post Number: 450 Registered: 10-2000 |
I just sent the following: Dear Pat Buchanan, I don't always agree with your positions but I have to praise your article for its absolute truthfulness and understanding of the laws of cause and effect. We are setting in motion the seeds of our own destruction. While you may be unfamiliar with the following source, I invite you to read this article and note that the information is from 1987: http://nexusmagazine.com/articles/Henoch%20Prophecies.html (Excerpt: Destruction in North America Far in the West, it will be different; the United States of America will be a country of total destruction. The cause for this will be manifold. With her global conflicts which are continuously instigated by her and which will continue far into the future, America is creating enormous hatred against her, worldwide, in many countries. As a result, America will experience enormous catastrophes which will reach proportions barely imaginable to people of Earth. The destruction of the WTC, i.e., the World Trade Center, by terrorists will only be the beginning. ) While it may be an unfamiliar source and overall subject matter, I have proved that the case is true and you can find all of the substantiation, as well as the new book and DVD, at: www.theyfly.com I have appeared on the Alan Colmes radio show twice in the last month, your political polar opposite, and I only ask that you give a fair read to the information, without bias, i.e. the same approach that has allowed me to receive your wisdom despite my, admittedly, preconceived opinions. I will also be interviewed for three hours on Coast to Coast radio (www.coasttocoastam.com) Saturday, January 29, 11:00 p.m. - 2:00 a.m. PST (the largest international radio show in the world). Sincerely, Michael Horn Authorized American Media Representative The Billy Meier Contacts www.theyfly.com Michael Horn | ||
Edward Member Post Number: 467 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi Hunter.... Yes, very very interesting your posting on Mr.(Pat) Buchanan. Yes, he has been, for a long while one of the Republicans opposing all scenarios composed by Mr. Bush and Co. He surly has made a "Turn around" in his Politics, which I find most Positive for not only America, but also...All Man Kind. But, he speaks from his Heart and Common Sense, which is better than his previous way of thinking. And after hearing and reading, this last week,(which was known to me already for some couple of years now), of Mr. Rumsfeld's Covert Super Top Secret Intelligence Agency, and without any Scruples...that they have the Right to - License To Kill- AGAIN, in any country on OUR Planet whom oppose their(Mr.Bush and Him) Freedom and Democracy Agenda. Instead of Generating/Making Peace and Harmony FOR ALL, they are "Shoving" it into the Throats of all and others that oppose them, with WAR and TYRANNY, THEMSELVES. And so...."This IS...The NATURE...Of THE BEAST." So it seems! Billy and The Plejarans, have Confirmed these True Facts to us all, not? "Where is the Difference", One would ask One's Self? Who IS NOW...the Dictators and Tyrants....whom want to Rule a TOTALITARIAN - NEW WORLD ORDER -, not? I Didn't ORDER..it....  Seems, they are EATING UP...their OWN words, now!!! They are Becoming WHAT they Created!!! This will only Ablaze our world even more....with the Useless Endless counts of Deaths, and Destructions, and to Annihilation. And as Ms.Rice mentioned this week, something like: "WE...are on a Mission", well, she must be referring to her GOD...or something!!??? Seems...HE told her to do SOMETHING????.... And Mr.Bush...saying something like: "It is mentioned in The Stars", Well, he must have been advised by some False Astrologers, or "Clown-Voyants", or even..His GOD, or something.... And I thought His GOD...was a GOD of PEACE and LOVE..... Well, it goes to show...he is Idolizing the Wrong and False Godhead. The GODHEAD of WAR, can only...be the mentioned BEAST- 666 -. The Beast Of Annihilation! The Anti-LOGOS. The BEAST OF...Non-Sense, Illogic and Un-Reason. Well, at least, Mr. Buchanan is a Republican Seeing The Facts as they Truly are, at this moment. Good for him. That is Good and Healthy "Positive" Energy, and Perspective...I must say. And as I have noticed, since the War started, there are other Republicans whom share the same views as Mr. Buchanan. Well, let them All Speak Out...I would say. So as to be for the betterment. Edward. | ||
Joseph_emmanuel Member Post Number: 58 Registered: 05-2004 |
Here's something of interest. Possibly people here have read it already, or something similar. But in case no one has, here it is anyway: http://www.cephasministry.com/nwothule.html It's called The Thule Society and the New World Order. | ||
Phil638 New member Post Number: 3 Registered: 07-2004 |
hi billy, I'm concerned about wether or not world wide political peacefull ways will be adopted in time before WW3 breaks outs in 2006 and if they aren't if the pjareans will intervene somehow and show there presence just before it does break out in order to stop it? I hope so coz i feel its not the worlds publics fault that we've been mislead and always kept in the dark all this time on this the most vital of matter. I'm sure Ptaah knows its not the greater populations fault here for the predicament we find ourselves in and hope he does something to help us all out in this situation where our existense is at stake. many thanks phil Hi Phil, The questions posted in this section will not get forwarded to Billy. The section you want is "Your Questions to Billy Answered". That section is temporarily closed while the last round of questions have been forwarded to Billy. When the answers are returned, the section will be reopened to accept new questions. Thanks-Moderator. | ||
Memo00 Member Post Number: 111 Registered: 03-2004 |
hi phil 1-its supposed that plejarans are not going to intervene if the WW becomes a reality (which is not something sure), anyway there is prophecy that says that it is possible that an ET group will appear to help (but it is just a prophecy, which means it is NOT 100% sure) 2-plejarans are only going to intervene if we reach the point where we almost destroy completely the planet, because among many other things if the planet explodes then fragments of it can damage other worlds in other places of the universe as it has happened before. . . 3-it is not a healthy thing to just wait for the ETs to solve our problems, that is not going to happen NEVER it is our responsability to change this world for better, they have already saved us from total extinction many times in the past without anyone in the entire world noticing it . . . | ||
Mhurley Member Post Number: 84 Registered: 04-2003 |
If ETs don't intervene in WW3 then they are certainly gonna have to leave our planet. I'm making the assumption here that there are ETs (not Plejaren) that have underground/undersea bases on our planet. Matt | ||
Phil638 New member Post Number: 4 Registered: 07-2004 |
thanks Memo00, the main reason i asked if the plejarens would intervene is coz of how i feel its not just the U.S thats going to responsible for starting WW3 if it ever happens. I think its a combination of politics, corporations, religions and the dark agenda all combined being the problem. Thats why i asked coz i feel to fix all them sectors in one years time is a very big ask and task to all fix in so little time left. phil | ||
Mhurley Member Post Number: 85 Registered: 04-2003 |
As the saying goes "it takes two to tango". You can't blame the US for everything. There are many nutty Islamic extremists out there who would love to get their hands on WMD (even if they haven't already done so.) Matt | ||
Michael Member Post Number: 452 Registered: 10-2000 |
Quick Quiz, Which country led the development of WMD? Which country was the first to twice use WMD against another country? Which country first sold WMD to other countries? Which country first sold WMD to Saddam Hussein? Which country recently launched unprovoked wars of agression against two other countries? Which country thinks it has the right to determine what other countries have and do to defend themselves? Hint: It's not any of the Islamic countries. Michael Horn | ||
Eric_drouin Member Post Number: 56 Registered: 05-2004 |
Hi: Have you noticed that the Bush government (sorry i should rather say the Israel puppets) puts lot of attention on Iran? What is interesting from last Figu bulletin #15 amd #16 is that Billy suggested that an outbreak of hostilities is still possible in 2006, depending on the course of events. I have read in the internet that the CIA ran "simulations" of attack against Iran facilities, all "simulations" lead to very negative results. Result of this: the Bush administration is now cleaning the CIA and firing whoever do not support their ideology, because they do not admit different opinions than theirs. There is no-one in this administration that can challenge the insane neo-cons, in their drive to pre-emptively strike Iran. Things could escalate dramatically in the next few month, unless other western countries violently opposes such an action. There is still hope, it really depends on some leaders of Europe, Russia, China, India whether they are coward or not. I think that trying to appease and please Bush & co. (as i saw this week with Mrs Rice in Europe) is as insignificant and pitiful as Neville Chamberlain has been in 1938, when he went to Munich... Salome Eric | ||
Cpl Member Post Number: 59 Registered: 08-2004 |
Any kindergarten child could answer those. But don't ask anyone in the US administration. I doubt anyone there would have a clue. | ||
Edward Member Post Number: 472 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi Matt... Some decade ago, there was information made known concerning Mr.Churchill, prime minister of Great Britain in the second world war. After winning World War two from Mr.Hitler and the Japanese, he wanted to motivate the USA and Europe to even "Steam Ahead"...into the direction of Moscow! In other words, his idea was - Its Now Or Never -. And this War Scenario was to be executed, of course..with Nuclear Weapons. Knowing the Success and Impact it had on the two well known Japanese cities. He though, "We could Never...Lose!" But knowing that Mr.Churchill was an Alcoholic and Addicted to all sorts of Tranquilizers, the Ministry and Armed Forces did not trust his metal state of well being. So, they managed, to isolate him from his Megalomaniac Ideas of war. This Same Scenario seems to be the case Today. But than, Mr.Bush (and Co), are motivating Britain and Europe to "Steam Ahead"...into the direction of the Middle East countries, as we all can Acknowledge, today. Even though, the war is being fought with High-Tech Conventional weaponry, there will still be chance that "Nuclear Weapons" will play a role here, Alas..to say. I will never foreget what an American High-Ranked Army Officer said at a Briefing. He mentioned, something like: "Even if we have to....We Will Use Nuclear Weapons!!" Did he make a mistake by mentioning this? If he were not to say this, he would be Kick-out of the service by now...I would think, not? A very good example would be - The Fall Of Saigon -. After America LOST her War in Vietnam, there was a Scenario put-up to drop - TWO Nuclear War Heads - on Vietnam!! Why...? JUST BECAUSE AMERICA LOST THE WAR IN VIETNAM!! Can you Imagine??? Very very BAD Sportsmanship....I would call this. But, Luckily, this Scenario did not come into reality. They managed, to Isolate...The Source! But, knowing Today, that Mr.Bush's EGO is of a Megalomaniac Value, and motivated by his Fundamentalist Radical Beliefs of Religion, WE have to keep our Consciences' on "High Alert"! These Radical Addictive Qualities of his...can mean the Beginning of the End of ALL Times for ALL Humanity..as we can Acknowledge. Just like, Mr.Churchill, and his Addictions; this Annihilation Scenario, Still...hangs above our heads as "The Sword of Damocles" as long as Mr.Bush is in office!! We are dealing here...with a very very "SORE LOSER"...when it gets down to the point!! Thus, "BEWARE!!" Edward. | ||
Mhurley Member Post Number: 86 Registered: 04-2003 |
Quick Quiz Part 2 If someone is selling WMD then someone is buying them - why are they buying them? Is Iran building a bomb or a power station? If it's a bomb what should the world do about it? Who gased the kurds? Did economic sanctions work against Iraq? Matt BTW I think Bush is a nutter as well. I'm just pointing out that the other side is equally as an unstable | ||
Eric_drouin Member Post Number: 57 Registered: 05-2004 |
Quick Quiz #3 for dummies Which country has not signed the Non Proliferation Treaty, but still has the 5th nuclear arsenal in the world? Which country has a official policy of assassination of opponents, but still, is not subjected to international tribunal and as such shows such low contempt for human life? Which country is occupying another territories, despite internation law and numerous UN resolutions condemning it Which country is currently building a wall within occupied territories, making them as Bantoustan, and building colonies on this same territory? And which country allows one country not to be bound by the NPT and in the same time provides it with the most generous international aid without conditions? Which country allows Pakistan and Israel to develop and possess nuclear wespon, while forbidding Iran and North Korea (and Saudi Arabia, Egypt?) to possess them? Who was visiting Saddam Hussein, when he was gassing the kurds? Who imposed economic sanctions against Iraq in 1991? Which country spends the most money in military spending, surpassing the SUM OF ALL OTHER COUNTRIES OF THE WORLD? I am pointing out here that it is obvious one side has the ability and the power to change things, but deliberately do not so for idiotic religious reasons, and blame the "other side" for all the violence and the problems. Why not make USAID of 10 billions/year conditional to Israel giving up its nuclear arsenal (estimated between 200-400 heads, enough to kill us all, by the way). That would be easy, no? They prefer igniting the world and starting world war III, and bring total destruction upon them in the name of an imaginary god. Yes religion is really the ultimate evil 666, the anti-logos. I now understand what Semjase meant. | ||
Eric_drouin Member Post Number: 58 Registered: 05-2004 |
I don`t want to be seen as a doomsday prophet, but i really feel compelled to share this info with you: http://www.ufppc.org/content/view/2295/ This is what Ptaah meant, when he answered Billy when asked if cards are not dealt yet: "the Earth humanity has very bad cards under the idiotic, sectarian, war- mongerish and destructive dictator, President Bush" (can i add something Ptaah: a moron...). | ||
Cpl Member Post Number: 63 Registered: 08-2004 |
Scott Ritter says the US is planning an attack on Iran in June 2005, and President Idiot...er, Bush, has signed documents agreeing to it going forward. Also says manipulation of the election results was carried out. Any of the links below give the story. http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article8130.htm http://www.ufppc.org/content/view/2295/ http://electroniciraq.net/news/1881.shtml http://bellaciao.org/en/article.php3?id_article=5349 If true, this insanity and horrendous movement into WW III must end. | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 603 Registered: 07-2000 |
Hi CPL, If indeed what this person says regarding Iran is true how can we stop it? How can we stop this step by step destruction that Bush, Cheney and the rest of this blood thirsty coup have set in motion? It appears that no amount of letter writing, protesting, peace meditations seem to be doing the trick. The common man does not have the means to stop this; because the Government has entrenched themselves into all walks of life to the point that people are afraid to speak out. This attitude of don't say anything against the administration still exists. Just recently someone said to me, "if you don't like it here move"! That to me is an arrogant and stupid remark, but reflects to me the degree of low evolution that still dominates this planet. Regards Scott | ||
Hunter Member Post Number: 140 Registered: 03-2004 |
Scott, Agree with most of your post. I am interested to see what the world reaction will be if they try to go into Iran. I think protests will step up if Bush makes an announcement confirming the rumours. Whether or not this will stop a new invasion remains to be seen. I think a lot of people in the U.S. will actually be more apt to allow another illegal war to happen again, due to the propaganda put out that Iraq is improving and becoming more stable (if it's improving and becoming more stable why are we building several permanent military bases there?). The neocons will shout down the opposition saying "We captured Hussein--it was all worth it!" I think that we could use nonviolent methods to stop it, the means exist, but most people are either (1) oblivious due to focus on materialism, sex, social status, or some other fleeting aspect of their lives (2) virtually brainwashed by the government/media/school system and incapable of mustering enough logical thought to overcome it (3) or are just overcome with apathy. As you said, a low state of evolution... I don't advocate violence as a means of political change, but I find it interesting that Semjase alludes to it as a means of removing the warmongers. As Michael posted in the questions to Billy section "Semjase also said that the time for humans to establish peace without using force has passed, that the tyrants and warmongers must be forcefully removed, which sounds like revolution." I am interested to see Billy's response to his question. As to the "if you don't like it here move!" comment--if the prophecies come to pass, they won't like it here either... Namaste, Hunter | ||
Cpl Member Post Number: 64 Registered: 08-2004 |
Hi Scott, Yes. This is the question on everbody's mind, "What do we do to stop the mayhem and bring on peace and prosperity for all?" It's perhaps even more difficult for those not American, as they do not have the immediate access to process of law/action/grievance/whatever in the USA to implement change there in that pivotal country. Personally I'm interested to hear Billy's reply to Michael's question about whether people of the Earth should rise up somehow, mobilize, or how exactly do we bring on the changes that occurred on Erra those millenia ago. The Errans performed a coup, which would seem the least disruptive to people's lives generally. Is there any chance of this? I do not know. Dove, supposed, or self appointed, speaker for the alleged "White Knights" has been shown to be a phoney. Details at Rumor Mills www.rumornmills.com for those unfamiliar with Dove's real identity. IMO we need some serious advice on this. There are too few people to identify with who can help; people like congressman Ron Paul. There is however, a general movement afoot to bring self sufficiency, money -- and maybe enough power to help the populace -- by many who have left the big boy's game and are working to empower the populace. People like the folks at Agora Publishing who are working to bring some wealth to the general populace. For those not yet aware of it the founder or president Bill Bonner has a free daily email service called Daily Reckoning that anyone can freely subscribe to at: www.dailyreckoning.com that is read by many thousands around the globe. It gives his daily commentary on econmics, politics finance etc. with an original/independent twist. They all know what's wrong and are helping to dissseminate small gems of the word here and there. A recent quote (or paraphrase if my memory is not exact) from multi-millionaire Bonner, "If it's OK to kill a group of people in Fellucha [sp] why not kill them in Iran too. And why stop there? Why not take out a group in Paris ... or Washington? Why not strangle your mother-in-law or silence a rap star?" The original quote is available from www.caseyresearch.com and their "What We Now Know" another free e-newsletter anyone can subscribe to. Barring an inner coup, I suppose the most logical is first for the general populace at large to become fully informed and ready for the change. I don't think the general populace is that ready or informed yet. It remains a growing minority that know what needs to be changed. Public dissemination of information en masse is necessary for this IMO, and the internet will most likely be a, or the, prime vehicle. Once the people are ready, the "how" will appear. If it's to be that way. Would-be almighty governments and their lackeys have always failed in the longrun. As a non-American it's easy for me to see the current US administration sowing the seeds of its own eventual downfall, if not destruction. It's important to remember that the good people of the world will eventually win and goodness will prevail, though it may not be without cost. It is easier to find the way when you calmly know you're going to win. The way has a way of always finding the winners. I find it helpful to focus on three things and to never forget them whatever I do in the day or where ever the day takes me: Be good; be positive; and keep your eyes on the good goal, without allowing that to prevent you from looking elsewhere to obtain an even better picture. It helps bring the best answers IMO. Best regards, | ||
Norm Member Post Number: 687 Registered: 02-2000 |
If they can now fix elections. I'm afraid it may take an armed revolution. | ||
Memo00 Member Post Number: 115 Registered: 03-2004 |
hi i think that common people have a lot of power i think we all can stop a new invasion i think that all people from all over the world should manifest in a more numerous and powerful way than when the invasion in Irak took place people from all countries from all the planet must demand their goverments to not involve with the machinations of the US i think that even if its happening slowly one by one the leaders of many countries that support the invasion in Irak are being "forced" to retire their troops because the people demand it (and these bunch egoists obviously are more interested in themselves and in winning votes) ........................................ and also, if the peace meditation helped to postpone the WW3 already in the past then why is not going to happen again??? i think that we all must have positive thoughts because, if we, that are more conscious of how things are don´t do it then who the f... is going to??? the war is not something sure it is the obligation of all of us to do something in one or another way just blaming or saying (or thinking)that it is not possible, doesn´t help and contributes to the destruction of the earth if you do nothing even when you know that 2/3 of humanity will die then you are nothing than a f zombie, a being without conciousness that doesn´t care about life i know this sounds hard but it is the truth | ||
Hunter Member Post Number: 142 Registered: 03-2004 |
"i think that common people have a lot of power i think we all can stop a new invasion" I agree. Let's keep working. | ||
David_chance Member Post Number: 44 Registered: 03-2003 |
A segment of Contact 225 states that World War 3 is probable in 2006 according to the prophecies of Henoch: http://www.figu.org/de/figu/bulletin/s13/leserfragen.htm In Contact 251: http://www.figu.org/us/ufology/contact_notes/251st/2.htm "The world war will begin in November of a specific year, after 5 years of intensive effort are spent reaching this goal which is preceded by 4 years of unspecified preparations." The Bush administration will have been in power 5 years in 2006. There is another major U.S. election in November 2006. I've also read the statements by Scott Ritter concerning the U.S. having plans for attacking Iran in June 2005. He was the former chief weapons inspector in Iraq 1991-1998, and prior to the U.S. attack in 2003 he was speaking up adamantly stating that Iraq did not pose a threat to the U.S.: http://www.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/meast/09/08/ritter.iraq/ I have forwarded the Ritter statements made last weekend to family and friends and either get no response or am told to not talk about "politics" nor continue my "anti-American" rantings lest it alienate me. I also say that the people should call for the immediate arrest of Bush and those behind him. What will it take for my neighbors, near and far here in the U.S., to understand that we are being led towards destruction by a group of psychotic criminals, and when will we do something about it before it is too late? A new report by investigator Sherman Skolnick goes into the matter regarding the exposing of the identity of U.S. ambassador Joseph Wilson's wife as a CIA agent (an act of treason), stating Bush gave the information directly to the fake White House press reporter, prostitute, spy & torturer "Jeff Gannon", currently in the center of a scandal (under-reported in the popular U.S. media): http://www.rense.com/general63/gad.htm Hopefully more people will become aware of this, grounds for arresting Bush on charges of treason. | ||
Jo_jo Member Post Number: 30 Registered: 04-2003 |
Kiwilove, What do you think are the prospects of an attack on New Zealand should WWIII break out as prophesized in 2006, 2010 or 2011? Was your country part of the "coalition of the willing" in Iraq? Does your country have any nuclear weapons? What is the Muslim population of New Zealand - especially fundamentalist Islamics - as a percentage of the total? How are race relations among the many different ethnic groups in your country? How are your relations with China, India and Russia? Since all of the Northern Hemisphere is prophesized to be decimated by WWIII, I am wondering what are the likely places for survival in the Southern Hemisphere. | ||
Eric_drouin Member Post Number: 60 Registered: 05-2004 |
Hi: Billy has mentioned in a answer to question, that no country would be spared from a possible WWIII. Facts seem to give him credit See following link : http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/afp_asiapacific/view/136185/1/.html Salome Eric | ||
Jo_jo Member Post Number: 32 Registered: 04-2003 |
Eric, Thanks for the link. The Australia-New Zealand-United States Alliance will surely work against the long-term interests and survival of both Australia and New Zealand should there be a WWIII. | ||
Cpl Member Post Number: 69 Registered: 08-2004 |
And Australia has the alleged American top secret Pine Gap facility stuck right in its center as one great central bull's eye on trarget Australia. While what goes on there is secret, it's no secret to anyone that it's there. While certainly not safe, the southern hemisphere should fare slightly better than the northern hemisphere, with its fewer city targets and larger desert and forest areas (S. America and Africa) in which people might be able to scrape out a survival. The major fallout from a WWIII would circulate in the northern hemisphere, but the southern certainly wouldn't be free of it. The northern and southern hemispheres are moderately independent in circulation, but not completely. In such an act of mass insanity as WWIII it would be reasonable to assumne that most, if not all, large cities would be targeted. If someone's going to target say 1,000 U.S. cities what's six more in Australia and New Zealand? Wouldn't any warmonger/defendent take them out too, having the means at their disposal? Of course, like other countries, Oz and NZ could lessen any harm that might be coming to them by waking up and decrying, and disassociating from the inhumanity of the West's current lunatic policy of eternal war for peace. | ||
Michael Member Post Number: 458 Registered: 10-2000 |
With an eye on the predictions in Contact 251 regarding the deaths of four heads of state within a week, the following tells of the death of Prince Rainier of Monaco: http://apnews.myway.com/article/20050406/D899UJOG0.html MH Michael Horn | ||
Mdaglioglu Member Post Number: 13 Registered: 04-2004 |
The deaths of four heads of state within a week is supposed to be a last danger sign. I don't see how Monaco with 30,000 population is related with WWIII. In my opinion, the deaths of four heads of state should be unexpected and unprepared and should create chaos. Peace, Murat | ||
Tjames Member Post Number: 25 Registered: 12-2004 |
Hi Michael, I just wanted to clarify and confirm that you did mean PREDICTION and not prophecy... right? In your movie "Our Future Survival" I was with the impression that the 4 heads of state dying within a 7 day period was a PROPHECY unless positive action took place making it void, Or, does this mean that we are now past the point of intervention where the prophecy becomes a prediction ensuring that it will happen!?!? Also, concerning the tsunamai that will apparently hit the U.S.... is this also a prediction? Thank You Michael You are a true servant to truth | ||
Memo00 Member Post Number: 122 Registered: 03-2004 |
hi to all i hope you are doing fine some may think that im just too optimistic but it is just that i dont see any logic in thinking in horrible things like the WW3 happenning . . . i think that the death of the pope and the death of the prince of Monaco are not related with the WW prophecy for very simple reasons 1-prophecies are always negative so that people can change them, A PROPHECY CAN ALWAYS BE CHANGED BY THE ACTIONS AND THOUGHTS OF PEOPLE i don´t see how we could change the death of some old and very sick guys 2-even if it is not mentioned i think that the death of the 4 heads if it happens, must be by murder so that it really have very negative consecuences that can lead to the worst 3-according to the prophecies the war would start two years after the death of the 4 heads, that means if happens this year: in 2007 BUT Billy has mentioned very specific dates in which the war could start here they are: Novemeber of 2003, 2006, 2010 and 2011 (or in the future (2040 or whatever) 4- in the prophecy it is mentioned that the 4 heads would die 7 from each other (or the 4 in 7 days depending on the translation),but the prince didn´t died 7 days after the pope, it was something like 4 or 5 days, so now the only possibility is the day of the funeral of the pope this friday, we just have to wait and we´ll see take care everyone and think in positive stuff, you can make the difference, what you do affects a lot of other people, there is just enough negative in this poor world, to find balance, people that see things in a completely new way are necessary | ||
Michael Member Post Number: 459 Registered: 10-2000 |
Hi Tjames, I think you're right regarding it being a prophecy and it looks like, for now, that it wasn't fulfilled. As for the tsunami, my understanding is that it is a prediciton, like Vesuvius' eruption wiping out Rome sometime in the future. No dates are given regarding either (or many others) but it seems to me that we are encouraged to work towards the positive to alter what can be changed, of course, but more for the sake of really correcting our errors and getting on the right track for the sake of our future and our descendants (who may, one day, once again be us). Michael Horn | ||
Eric_drouin Member Post Number: 70 Registered: 05-2004 |
Hi: I think it is more important to do the peace meditation more than ever. My hope that this will help (influence?) the leaders of the world, specially in Europe and ASIA not to follow the USA in their quest for dominance in Middle East and the world. Thus, an attack on Iran by USA-Israel; in June may degenerate into a major regional conflict, possibly nuclear or chemical (i am sure now this is UNAVOIDABLE due to Bush and all those moron Warmongers that voted for him), but nevertheless limited to certain region of the world. I am however concerned with the role China and Russia may play into this, as they also have shown little contempt for human life these recent years (think about Chechnya, Tienanmen Square, or how Chinese governement is inflaming his people againt Japen using nationalism), thus having no lessons to teach the Americans or Israel on this matter. Russia and China may for instance adopt preemptive strike policy to protect their interest (meaning for instance access to OIL resources!!), and follow Bush example of launching war. I still hope reason will prevail in Gernamy, France, Spain, Canada, Mexico, India, Brazil... that they will not bow to the dominating country in the name of "business", by cowardice, and follow the USA on the road to World War III. I am dreaming of the day, when an international military force will be able to punish any country that launch war, and exile their leaders in Antarctica for the rest of their life. To do so, you need a will. When there is a will, there is a way... Salome Eric | ||
Eric_drouin Member Post Number: 71 Registered: 05-2004 |
Hi: There it is: http://menewsline.com/stories/2005/april/04_20_1.html Salome Eric | ||
Markc Member Post Number: 187 Registered: 06-2000 |
Well said Eric .Your message is worth reading again . Mark Mark Campbell | ||
Eric_drouin Member Post Number: 74 Registered: 05-2004 |
Hi: There is an extremely relevant (and blood chilling) article on nuclear proliferation written by no one else than Robert McNamara himself (Kennedy`s secretary of defense) http://www.foreignpolicy.com/story/cms.php?story_id=2829 Even more interesting, Billy had commented the nuclear proliferation in 1996 (Figu Bulletin #5) with the only language appropriate in this case: Brutal and Harsh truth: ... Q: What has been done until now to curb the nuclear madness? A: Basically very little has been done -- a drop in a bucket - for even today nuclear weapons are the favorite toy of power hungry government officials and military agencies who continue to criminally jeopardize mankind and the planet. Anyone who is inclined to consider nuclear weaponry for possible utilization, testing, or merely as a deterrent, is contemptuous of mankind and all life forms; that person is simply criminally offensive scum and is unworthy of living. ... The fact that M. McNamara came to similar conclusion: "... I would characterize current U.S. nuclear weapons policy as immoral, illegal, militarily unnecessary, and dreadfully dangerous..." gives me some hope. People on this small overcrowded planet are slowly getting smarter Peace Eric | ||
Tam2105 Member Post Number: 7 Registered: 03-2005 |
I read on Yahoo news two wonderful things: 1. Bush wants to reinstate the Patriot Act - the ACLU is working against this, but I think the chances are pretty good he'll succeed. His aim is to keep the US on their tip toes with fear that there are terrorists lurking everywhere, after all with the Patriot Act in place they have sucessfully apprehended over 400 terrorists... 2. The Army is falling short of their recruitment goal making it likely that the draft will be reinstated. I have two boys, 15 and 17.... who didn't see this coming? Tammy | ||
Hunter Member Post Number: 157 Registered: 03-2004 |
* 2. The Army is falling short of their recruitment goal making it likely that the draft will be reinstated. I have two boys, 15 and 17.... who didn't see this coming? Tammy, if you want to protect your sons from the draft you need to read the following: http://www.chaostan.com/draft-report-preview.html | ||
Zarathustra New member Post Number: 3 Registered: 05-2005 |
What do people think of going to Patagonia? I doubt it's an important area for any warmongers. Besides I want to travel around the barren coutry on a horse like my hero Charles Bronson. www.escapeartist.com has much information you might be needing if you fancy a runner away from wherever you live. Hunter, do you know of many survival skills? I figure I may be needing them sometime in my life. Got any advice on how/where you learn this business if it's important that I do so. All this World War 3 talk makes me want to get off my arse and start doing something ;) Makes a change! Can't wait. | ||
Markc Member Post Number: 191 Registered: 06-2000 |
I can recommend the SAS Survival Handbook by John Lofty Wiseman , which contains practical advice about surviving various crisis situations , very diverse .There is also a second book called the SAS Personal Survival Handbook . Mark Mark Campbell | ||
Hunter Member Post Number: 158 Registered: 03-2004 |
Zarathustra, You might want to view the earlier posts in this thread for our discussion on relocating to South America. As for survival information, if you do a search you can find plenty of private instructors who teach these types of things in wilderness settings. For one see: http://www.survivalschool.com Also, http://www.loompanics.com used to carry a pretty wide selection of survivalist-type books. Namaste, Hunter | ||
Tjames Member Post Number: 59 Registered: 12-2004 |
Hi Mark, It sounds like your'e expecting a catasrophe! It's not a 3rd World War is it? Just kidding. It's always good to be prepared. I have a short term plan and a long term plan... the short term plan consists of stocked up various canned foods based on caloric value, higher the better, with plans to heat, serve, and bathe with water. Also cooking will be rare and water may be scarce so prepare with your imagination in full bloom. Long term has a tent, a camping back pack, as light as possible, canned food suplies to last a week which WILL run out, weapon, hatchet for cutting, water proof fire device, compass although the source i received my info was for a comet passing and changing the placment of true north as well as our view of the constalations, but a small waterproof star guide is a MUST. Plan for the worst and if i didn't mention the water Germicidal tablets, these help clean the water so u can drink safely as well as vitamins small common things you may take for granted like cover from rain like a pancho and a wind up flashlight. If the radio still works a wind up radio but for a for destruction the Henok prophecies speak of especially in America there won't be any radio!! However, lets not build a bunker yet, we must still fight with the many faculties that the human body has readily available and counter the negative energy on this planet so that we don't have to use our survival books. Either way we look at it your going to have to strive. Strive to live grow, fight, learn, with out a third world war or we can strive to live, grow, fight and learn in misery with the very deepest meaning that word can infer. It's our choice. Salome, Tim | ||
Cyril Member Post Number: 19 Registered: 05-2005 |
I think the only solution will come in the form of ideas, no mass protests or assesinations...or any other means which includes force. I'm convinced that there is no longer any alternative. Currently I'm in the process of aquiring a small block of land in a remote area of Australia, with a group of friends. Our idea is to build a small underground village, and since the sight sits on a network of abandoned mine shafts, most of the digging is already done for us. There is water down there but no air,light or food, but we, Biology-Chemistry-Physics students, will have solutions to these problems in the next couple of years. If nothing actually happens, it will be one valuable experince and great big experiment, in the application of our chosen fields of study. Cyril | ||
Cpl Member Post Number: 96 Registered: 08-2004 |
Just don't forget to take with you compassion for all mankind, wisdom and discernment. | ||
Cyril Member Post Number: 20 Registered: 05-2005 |
CPL if you mannage to relocate to Aus, you can join our village to maintain the "wisdom" and "discernment"..hehe As for compassion, I have not one trace of it for the masses, I'm no altruist. That is not to signify any depravity on my behalf, for I do indeed bear a 'love' for man. [ In this context - Defenition - Love : Man as a being of virtue and ability, able to both realise and achieve happiness, as defined by his nature.] Cyril | ||
Cpl Member Post Number: 97 Registered: 08-2004 |
Then by your definition -- a man of virtue and ability -- you have compassion, Cyril. Compassion is not necessarily altruism. Who is a true altruist? All need a degree of selfishness in order to provide for and look after self, and when self is fine, others. Buddha once said "All existence is selfishness." Compassion is an inclination to be helpful and merciful to others, especially while having the power or abilty to be otherwise. If mankind had compassion there would be no instigation of mad killing and war. While compassion may be useless when faced with a madman or absolutely determined attackers, it is, nevertheless, one of the greatest disarmers -- most attacks are at those perceived as enemies, not friends. Wisdom and discernment are best coming from self. | ||
Zarathustra New member Post Number: 4 Registered: 05-2005 |
Thanks for the tips guys, I've added a couple books to my basket at amazon after the recommendations. As for the date of WW3 I've read a couple articles about events unfolding. One suggested that the US plan for drones will be ready in 2010 and another with a Russian general saying that their army will be gradually upgraded and modernised, so in 2010 most of the forces will consist of voluntary troops. Anyone read anything into this? I'm thinking we might have a few more years to prepare, which is good as I'm nowhere near ready to rock. | ||
Ascension Member Post Number: 14 Registered: 11-2004 |
I do not believe that WW3 is going to be any time in the next 5 or so years. I think this because of the time lines and such that billy has loosley put out(the henoch prophecies is the one that comes to mind). Events that have to transpire before the prophesied WW3 are fairly far off it seems. The end of the church seems to pre-date WW3, and there will be 2 more popes after this one is dead. popes usally last for 10-15 years, although the last pope who is called pedrus maximus probably will not be alive for that time. I would like to hazard a guess at 2010-2025. Oh well. It would be nice to know when 1/2 the world is going to die and our western civilization beaten down into the dirt by Islam. | ||
Jay_q Member Post Number: 41 Registered: 01-2005 |
Well from here on out no matter what we have to vote for people who let the nations be and is more in the "protection/cautious" mode than the take over the world mode that our current president is in today. I had no idea that he was looking for trouble with other nations until his 2nd term started. Talk about being 2 faced. | ||
Eric_drouin Member Post Number: 83 Registered: 05-2004 |
Hi: Perhaps it is the effect of the peace meditation, the European constitution was rejected by France and Holland 2 weeks ago, the construction of this bureaucratic monster is on hold, undefinitely. This was identified in a lot of contacts notes and the Henoch prophecies as a catalyst for WWIII in Europe. Propects are now looking better in Europe than on this side of the Atlantic, where the moronic president is still pushing his crusade to lit fire to the whole world. But now even in the US, there are voices that are asking to pull out of Iraq, stop interventionism. In Canada, people are opposed to missible shield. Gas is 60$/barrel (excellent for the environment). Attack on Iran is now postposned to August, if not more. Keep on going with peace meditation guys... Let`s get smarter. Talk about environment, peace, overpopulation, self-responsibility, sustainable growth with those around you. Peace Eric | ||
Cpl Member Post Number: 99 Registered: 08-2004 |
Hi Ascension, I tend to agree with you that it won't happen for at least another 5 years or so. There is only one more pope after the current one, though. WW III will very likely, it seems, occur during his ("Peter the Roman's") pontificate. Billy has said the age of belief will end in 2029. IMO that could also possibly coincide with the end of the Catholic church, although, of course, that church could disappear before then. Also we have no idea how long WW III will last. Europe as a whole seems to disintegrate through revolutions and wars over years before the 888 days of intense destruction in the USA and elswhere. Personally I have doubts as to whether WW III -- the whole thing -- will be a short duration thing like WW I or WW II. What's to stop it from starting slowly next year and gradually accelerating over the years -- apart from intelligent and compassionate action on the part of Earth's people? | ||
Ascension Member Post Number: 15 Registered: 11-2004 |
I think that world war three will not last all that long. 888 days I think is the duration, but im not sure. But the effects it will have on earth compounded by the Islamic revolutions in europe and perhaps elsewhere will have a terrible impact. IMO ww2 was declared but no fighting commenced until months after. I think ww3 is going to be a very visible and distinct era with major powers in declared conflict. What scares me is watching CNN and seeing how bad the America versus the world is becoming. They openly stated that A weak Europe would be better than a stong Erurope wich contradicts the US! Also an energy bill is being passed to promote alternative sources of energy. It seems mostly for Nuclear power to gain an edge on the rest of the world, distancing the USA from the soaring oil prices. Also CAFTA in my opinion is formed by the bullied Centeral American countries to create more wealth for America. Also making America more of an 'island' free of China and other competitors. George Bush seems to have a very set idea of what the world will be like in the next 50 or so years. .. Also, does anybody have any idea and information on what role Isreal will play in the world to come? Its a very important country because of its influince in the USA and its status as the "promised land" for the sons of noah. The bible is very intresting indeed. Theres more to it that that, but I forget names and such. Israel was the name of the person who first traveled to egypt. | ||
Tam2105 Member Post Number: 10 Registered: 03-2005 |
Hi Hunter, I haven't read the EWR yet about the Draft, but I did read an interview with Richard Maybury at http://www.chaostan.com/bulletin-050305.html Very interesting and lots of food for thought. I was wondering if you've read any of his "Uncle Eric" books? P.S. Sorry for the late response. Tammy | ||
Tjames Member Post Number: 69 Registered: 12-2004 |
Hello Ascension.. I do remember reading that the PROPHECY of the 3rd World war will start out with conventional weaponry, most likely with conventional propaganda as-well. As the war progresses so will the battle lines. As for the War directors and the ones lacking conscience also known as the precipitators, their status may not be as well known as one might expect. This is my reasoning: 1. Keeping people at eachothers throats could be an example of the 5 years of the preparation for the war (once again not plejaren words) to maintain a scenario wherin the populace; large portions of the mid-east, possibly the Asian community? may be the recipients of much terror by the American's (in the beginning). The Henok prophecy states much devastatin to America so this won't play quite yet. I am only speaking for the war in it's infancy which seems logical since that's where we could be right now. My point is that even though there will be a "very visible and distinct era with major powers in declared conflict" I do not think that this will be a factor in the beginning of the war. Mainly because it's early and the fighting may not be intense but later on perhaps (one cant even guess these things) but I agree there will be a distinct "era with major powers in declared conflict" however, the war will be far progressed by the point anyone thinking rationally is to figure it out. The point being that it won't matter by the time the full heat is turned on even if a clear line of distinction "could be made", who's going to be concerned with anylizing when a nucular weapons is dropped in their backyard! The key is prevention because afterall... it's a PROPHECY and all prophecies are avoidable, because that's the point of such a warning device. Also with alternative fuels.. Honda just sold there first Hydrogen powered car (way more effiecent torque out the wheels than conventional gasoline egine can do) only by-product is water and air and BP has teamed up to produce and manufacture hydrogen, along with many other companies to follow. Plus Nicola Tesla had it right when he designed alternating current/the electric motor/ America's electric grid system and much much more, except he couldn't get the finacing for big projects in the early 1900's for wirles energy transmission, but built a prototype along with some lingering debates about its authenticity. As far as Israel goes, they make many advancements in science like cures for diseases (recently) and other positive aspects, sadly I have read that Irael my play a sad role when it comes to "war precipitating" or "agitating". They want the middle east because their religious doctrine (which they wrote, not to put all Israeli's in this category of even any of them) but their ancestors wrote the Torah and everything in it, if the Torah states they shall have Palestine and everything west of the Nile or what ever silly idea is written there than THIS is why at-least from Israel's standpoint they might be inclined to team up with America to erradicate the mid-east opposers once and for all, sad huh!! But this won't happen if we dont' let it happen! Through strive, clear reasoning and standing up and acting with truth and with creational laws we can do what what is necessary, and that is take back our hi-jacked earth. My tangly and twisted thoughts... feel free to disect. Salome, Tim James | ||
Hunter Member Post Number: 160 Registered: 03-2004 |
Muslims in France: A Ticking Time Bomb? http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=18631 | ||
Hunter Member Post Number: 161 Registered: 03-2004 |
I'm posting another site on John Titor in this thread. For those who may not have seen the original thread, Titor alleges to be a time traveller from 2036 who survived a Civil War in the U.S. and a brief World War 3. There are some inconsistencies in the story, but a lot of his information matches Billy's material (which of course might only mean that Titor is a hoax and took the information from Billy). Anyway, it's an interesting read: http://johntitor.strategicbrains.com | ||
Hunter Member Post Number: 162 Registered: 03-2004 |
* I was wondering if you've read any of his "Uncle Eric" books? Tammy, yes, I've read all of them and I think they're all very good. I highly recommend them. | ||
Cpl Member Post Number: 100 Registered: 08-2004 |
Hi Tjames, Tesla did actually build the tower that was to transmit electricty without the use of copper wires. It wasn't completed or functional though. J.P.Morgan was his financial backer and just before completion Morgan realized that the innovation would mean no more copper wires; however he was a major investor in copper and saw he would lose millions if the tower went ahead, so he cancelled his backing of Tesla, the project collapsed, and the rest, of course, is the history we know -- still running electricity through wires like they did in the early 20th century. | ||
Cpl Member Post Number: 102 Registered: 08-2004 |
Another look at the London terror attacks: Here is an article giving another version of events other than the usual Daily Dishrag sensationalism. It mentions how it is five years since the 2001 attacks were planned Ð the 5 years of preparations foretold by the Ps? It reveals our Òterrorist expertÓ is actually top of the media and head of the London Zionist movement Ð hardly impartial. And it offers many opinions on why civilians are targeted -- they run to politicians asking for protection, psychologically if not actually e.g. It also looks at who gains and who loses from these recent London, and previous Madrid, terror attacks. The obvious question, of course, is wouldnÕt Arab terrorists, when attacking the home country, go for the politicians (and seats of power) who are waging war against them rather than the public who are doing nothing at all against the Arabs. Now the UK PM will have a less-opposed hand in escalating the war he supports. Perhaps the public is now supposed to acquiesce and support the PM in what will obviously be the next war machinations? Note also the mentioned tie up Internationally with Italy and MI5 and the CIA. This sounds like what the Ps told us through Billy. http://signs-of-the-times.org/signs/signs20050707.htm | ||
Jo_jo Member Post Number: 50 Registered: 04-2003 |
Cpl, I don't know much about Tesla's project, but wouldn't running high power electricity through the air like radio waves be dangerous to humans and other forms of life? There seems to be some evidence that living near high voltage power lines is hazardous to one's health. Isn't there the possibility that towers like Tesla's might be even worse? | ||
Cpl Member Post Number: 103 Registered: 08-2004 |
Hi Jo jo, Not being Tesla I can't say for sure, but it seems not. Tesla's technology was much like that used in remote controlled devices, which he also invented. I'm no engineer, but the electricity would have been on a certain frequency and therefore probably as "harmless" as radio waves. Whether they might have been stronger around the broadcasting tower itself, you had better ask someone more knowledgeable on Tesla than myself, preferably an engineer who has researched his work. Electricity traveling along cables is a raw concentrated energy. Would broadcast energy be the same amount but spread over a far wider area -- of kilometers rather than centimeters and therefore thousands of times weaker, if at all detrimental? Better ask a knowledgeable engineer again. | ||
Tjames Member Post Number: 73 Registered: 12-2004 |
I'm no expert on this either Cpl, JOJO, others, but one more thing to add concerning Nicola Tesla. I have been researching an expert who does study these things and he is in the process of making a full scale tesla tower. I must first say that while wireless energy transmission is neat with or without harmful side-effects I feel that emphasis should be put on the source of the "Tesla Towers" energy, which is captured from earth's natural energy grid system produced by the suns fusion, which Professor Jim Mccanney an astro-physisist claims are all around the Earth and specifically at the equator but not exclusively to the equator. I would also like to add that I have read things on Jim Mccanney's cite that do not conquer with Plejaren knowledge of our Universe, like the fact that our universe is expanding, Jim cliams this is nonsense. However, he may be right and wrong about several other things. Not to make this too long but Jim Mccanney claims that our Universe as well as our solar system operates on a more "electrical" level than we think. But since we are human and suseptable to fallacy Jim is not an exception. I do feel that someday if not now our scientists are going to have to face the music that our solar system does operate on a totally more "sophisticated" level than previously assumed. Food for Thought. Peace in Wisdom, Tim | ||
Kingman New member Post Number: 3 Registered: 07-2004 |
A little heads up note: 2 World leaders have died in the last 48hrs. Saudi's King Faud, died of old age, and the Vice Pres. of Sudan who was the rebel leader who helped bring and end to the years long conflict in that country, died in copter crash. Two more World leaders and we could be for WWIII. a friend in america, Shawn | ||
Phil638 Member Post Number: 60 Registered: 07-2004 |
If I had one wish I'd wished that the plejarens had to (by order of me) turn a blind eye to their plejarens ET ethics and had to come down here and officially set the record straight to the world general public about whats going on and then had to do whatever else that they had to do to clean this planet as well as this planets stupid and corrupt political system right up. They would also have to help us drag out all the corrupt people who were mainly involved and responsible for putting the planet in the dire place it is at now too. They would also have to help us lock all these corrupt people away somewhere for the rest of their lives as well. This would also involve that they had to stamp out the U.S.'s militry might to that of a third world nation because they deserve it for everything they did in the past 60 years to other lesser countries then them. That would be a very big help they'ld be doing for us if they did that I think. So there, I've just let everyone here know that I don't think much of or give much of a dam about the plejarens ET ethics. So sue me Ptaah! | ||
Phil638 Member Post Number: 61 Registered: 07-2004 |
Hi Cyril, I'm in australia like you too and I'm also thinking of doing the same thing as you too. I think the people living in australia will definately be in the best country of all if WW3 does happen. Austalia is the size of the U.S. but only with a population of 25 million, most of which are decently civilized people too. (I'm in Melbourne which has won the "world's most livable city" title for the past 2 years running.) In my opinion, Australia would be the idea country for figu members and also like minded individuals as them from around the world to go to and to congregrate together somewhere and form a private and secluded self sufficiency community for the coming world events and changes regarding WW3 if it does start. Australia has it all, from hot tropic rainforests to cold temperate rainforests with an abundance of "huge" cheap properties always for sale too. phil | ||
Phil638 Member Post Number: 69 Registered: 07-2004 |
Also Australia is in the best posible geographic position if world war 3 does happen. Its in the land down under far away from the northern hemisphere where all that radioactive and biological craps going to be. phil | ||
Cpl Member Post Number: 122 Registered: 08-2004 |
Cyril has left the forum, Phil. I tend to agree with your assessment of OZ, generally. I wouldn't vouch for the safety of Sydney or big cities though, as OZ is up to its neck in political wranglings with the other so-called civilized countries. Did you hear that a famous Yugoslavian seer, many centuries ago predicted that in the future there would be an immense war involving every single country in the world and only one very large country in the southern hemisphere not yet discovered would be a safe place to be in? Thinking from a war perspective, it would only take seven or so nuclear warheads -- plus a couple for Woomera, a couple of other so-called secret installations and Pine Gap -- out of hundreds or thousands of nuclear warheads to ensure Oz didn't get involved fighting back. Oz would still probably fare best of all other nations involved with just half a dozen or so nukes in a land the size of the US or China -- with most of the fallout circulating in the northern hemisphere, which would receive, presumably hundreds or thousands of nuclear bombs IF WW III happens. Hence, if I ever get to Oz I'll have a place at least 100 Kms from any major city. If the Plejarens did as you suggest, Phil, the entire structure of dozens of western governments and multinationals and militaries would need taking en-masse off to some other planet. This could not be done lightly. Where would the line be drawn? Which countries, militaries, think tanks and governments are not included in the dragnet? The world economy would collapse immediately with massive unemployment and revolution everywhere. While some of the populace know of better financial systems to put into operation, a structure is needed to implement that. We are, quite frankly, not organized enough to fill any such resulting void. It could only work if the Plejarens were to move in and take over setting up another government: alien invasion, in fact. While you and I might give them our vote to do this the others on the planet will not. It comes down again to those here working to see the world can make that choice or bring sense to the world. This may be not only the reason the Plejarens came here to give their messages, but the reason we ourselves are here: to help the world come to its senses and avoid WW III. | ||
Jo_jo Member Post Number: 62 Registered: 04-2003 |
Australia has nukes and is among the "coalition of the willing" in Iraq. For those two reasons it can't be considered safe once the Islamic extremists get ahold of the nukes in France. | ||
Torrent Member Post Number: 16 Registered: 03-2003 |
I have felt that many are very feared of their own deaths during WWIII and I find it quite weird. I admit that it is our natural instinct to try to survive and, in this case, people are quite curious about where we are more likely to survive, but we have forgotten a few facts here. 1. It is very unclear which places or countries are going to survive this catastrophic nuclear war 2. The effects of the war will reach every corner of this planet. Even survival itself might mean more painful experiences for us. 3. For now, it is much wise of us to think more about how we can prevent the war rather than how we can survive it 4. Even with the earth totally annihilated, our spirits will remain on the course of evolution by find the closest inhabitable planet. WWIII can't be the end of our existence if you are well aware of spirit issues. ( though it will severely slow down our evolutionary progress) Please let's stop discussing where we should go before WWIII starts. Are you doing peace meditation now? :-) | ||
Cpl Member Post Number: 124 Registered: 08-2004 |
I've been discussing that we are here to prevent WW III. I talk of going to Oz because that's were I will retire, where my family live, and I have been planning on eventual relocation there for many years. The idea that it might be a safer place IF WW III happens is just another matter. That said, I don't see any harm in keeping at the back of one's mind where one might go to live IF one's present location starts becoming impossible to live in, for whatever reason. It is really no different than having another job opportunity/idea at the back of one's mind should the present company one is working for inexplicably hit the wall, go bankrupt, or restructure necessitating one find new work. This is merely common sense to me, though many couldn't be bothered with such thoughts. I work for world peace in whatever way I can in all I do right now. For me it is more about how one conducts oneself at work and in leisure on a continual basis; and how I conduct myself in thought, relations, speech, writing (most of which is not here) and work continually. Anyone can do this. IMO example is the greatest interactive teacher. :-) | ||
Eric_drouin Member Post Number: 89 Registered: 05-2004 |
Hi: I recently stopped worrying about an eventual WWIII, and worry about a place to escape. We can avoid it or reduce it by positive action, those actions however are at an individual level (such as meditating for peace, listening, logical thinking, etc...). | ||
Hunter Member Post Number: 164 Registered: 03-2004 |
Eric, I tend to agree with you. I still haven't been able to move, but I'm getting closer. Will we make it in time though? It looks like the potential for civil war in America could be increasing: http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index798.htm | ||
Junior Member Post Number: 13 Registered: 12-2004 |
Dear All, Just came across this interesting article and thought to share it with you, I guess it would somehow fit in this section... with this headline "Why is Cheney Lobbying for a Boost in China's Nuclear Capability?" http://www.counterpunch.org/roberts08112005.html Peace to all, and one Love Junior | ||
Edward Member Post Number: 524 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi Jo_Jo.... Yes, that about Australia is very very True. Australia is known as "The Extending Arm Of The USA"!! They have their own Pentagon like institutions just as America; and thus MONITOR that whole world portion. They even have their own Area 51 like hangars....etc. It is in WAR Strategics...a Mirror Image of The USA. Surely, when WW III becomes a reality...they will Truly be Involved with that War of Today's Great Time! Edward. | ||
Phil638 Member Post Number: 75 Registered: 07-2004 |
Hi Cpl, Jo_Jo and Edward, I agree with you Cpl. Jo_Jo Australia's defense force doesn't have any nukes of their own. If there are any nukes in australia then its probably got them at the secret U.S. Pine Gap facility located in the middle of the australia which is thousands of miles away from the nearest major city. Australia has 6 major cities and even if they were bombed theres still ample room for people to go to live in the country side anyway as australia's so big with so few people. But how many and which nations of the world have intercontinental nuclear missile's with the cability of reaching australia anyway? Only a few do. I think you both Jo_Jo and Edward didn't see the point I was trying to make back there anyway. That point was that australia lies in the most southerthly region of the southern hemisphere which the plejarens/prophecies have stated as being the safest zone if WW3 happens when the plejarens/prophecies stated that the "whole" northern hemisphere and continental shelf will be unable to be inhabitable. The only other countries that lie in the same geographical position as Australia is South Africa and South America and New Zealand which is considered as being part of Australia anyway. The point being that the geographical position that australia lies in is what should be looked at here, and on that basis Australia should be considered as being one of the most safest places and countries to live in the world if WW3 does happen. Also my prior comments in relation to australia being a safe zone and a good place for figu members to congregate too were in relation to figu members and like minded individuals forming a self sufficency community somewhere in the vast australian countryside, and not in a major city. Having said that, in my opinion I feel that the australian major cities will be reasonably safe on their own from attack if the worst case senario does happen anyway. Australia should be considered as being one of the most safest places/country to be in if WW3 does happen because of how it lies in one of the most southerly geographical positions of the southern hemisphere, which is far away from the northern hemisphere where all that radioactive and biological craps going to be if the worst case senario does happen. phil | ||
Edward Member Post Number: 527 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi Phil..... You Missed My Point... I was Not referring to any Nuke's at all....!! But..in WAR Strategics... In other words: this would mean Conventional. Of course, that Southern part of the world globe would be free from any type of Nuclear Warfare(and its radiation - IF, Nuke's are not pointed their way!!! - ), but does not mean from any type of conventional warfare. Of course...Australia would feel itself "Threatened" when the Northern hemisphere is attacked!! Australia...IS and Will Always be the USA's Extending Arm!! This, it proved from previous wars! When the Bali Bombing occurred, you should have seen how fast Mr. Howard reacted and...wanted to Invade parts of Indonesia!! He wanted to be a Hero...just as Mr. Bush, and even make the Scenario..even More Worse!! WITHOUT...even Knowing The TRUE Facts. And if he would have taken such action...the Indonesian Government and it's Forces would take retaliation actions. So, this made Mr. Howard..take back his Deluded Warmongering Scenario. People tend to forget Australia in War Scenarios, but their Armed Forces have played great roles...in war times. And of course, Australia is HUGE enough to congregate like-minded FIGU members and people. But I would advise to go more inward/inland. When the Nuke's Burst..they will surely Generate Countless Earth Quakes of Great Magnitude! And Tsunamis will be the manifestations of those days!! And Coast-lines will vanish and its populations. Thus, One may be safe from The Nuke's and its Radiation, BUT...not from its Aftermath effect called NATURE!! And...Beware of NATURE!! NATURE WILL...Restore itself!! Edward. | ||
Phil638 Member Post Number: 89 Registered: 07-2004 |
Hi Edward, I agree with most of what you say there but I think that maybe you might of misunderstood what I was saying a bit too. If you look back you'll see that most of all my comments about Australia bing a safe haven from WW3 were mainly in relation to ppl living somewhere in the vast australian countryside including the comments I also said in relation to a congregation of likeminded figu members forming a self selficiency little community somewhere too. The other point I think that you might have missed me saying is what I was saying about what was one of the main reasons why australia should be considered as being one of the most safer places to be in if WW3 does happen is because of its most southerly geographical location position in the southern hemisphere. I mean, if you were going to start talking about which countrys in the world should be considered as being the safest zones from WW3, you wouldn't mention any of the countrys lying in the northern hemisphere would you? In my opinion you have to first start by looking at the geographical position of the country's first and then go from there. The best candidates are South Africa, South America, Australia and New Zealand which is basically a part of australia anyway. In my opinion, out of those 3 I believe that Australia would be the best candidate and not because I live there too. phil | ||
Eric_drouin Member Post Number: 90 Registered: 05-2004 |
Hi everyone: Agree with Edward, with different arguments though: I can`t see how the staunchest USA ally in its "war on terror" could avoid consequences of an eventual world war initiated by the USA (i write here eventual, prophecy can stll be avoided if people turn away from the warmongers) . Under the current political situation, this is illogical. If you read between the lines on international news, if Iran gets attacked by USA or Israel (possibly by nukes, per current Pentagon plan) China and probably Russia would intervene to protect their geopolitic interests this time. Eric | ||
Phoenix_2003 Member Post Number: 8 Registered: 07-2003 |
Hi everyone, some of last posted Messages writes about safe places to hide or to be safe. It looks like a good idea, but if I am not wrong in Billy's notes from 251. contact is written that there will reveal many diseases and other problems. The nuclear radiation will cause the crippling and mutation of the children born at that time, and multitudes who survive the war will be contaminated and burned by radiation. Chemical warfare will cause horrifying and atrocious skin diseases, and biological warfare will produce festering sores and many other ills, not to mention vicious human freaks. When will be infective ills spreaded on the whole Earth (and because it will be the mostly result of using biological wapons it will surely happen) there will be no place to hide. In that moment there will be many of death people, but after a few yers people will get resistent - they will have this bakteries and viruses in their bodies but they will not be sick. When some human isolated for long time meet some of this poeple he will soon get sick and he will maybe die. And there is another problem - people in so called "safe" countries will be not able to build their civilization again after the war and rich ones will have too many problems in that time to give them eny humanitary help. Look at countries like Grusia or Bosna and Hercegovina - like this and much worst will look the world after the Third World War. It will surely cost much work to build the world again. As doctors says: "Is better to heal causation of disease then the disease it self." Adam | ||
Edward Member Post Number: 529 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi Adam and All... Very very well spoken....Adam. In Principle, NOWHERE IS SAVE from Nuclear Radiation. Even Billy made this very very clear, and which is very very Logical...and Speaks For Itself. But, we can argue from the assumption point of view: a few Nukes being utilized, which will leave less contamination damage...which will leave the Southern Hemisphere safe to some degree. BUT, depending on the Magnitude of the Nuclear warfare plays an additional role here. "The More Nuclear Warheads Utilized....the More DAMAGE to our globe...AND OURSELVES!!!!" This same Scenario concerns...as Adam mentioned "Chemicals ....etc...etc." So, let us All AVERT...any such Monstrosity like WAR Scenario. And NOT look at the Others....But....AT OURSELVES!!! Either CAUSED by EXTERNAL or INTERNAL..Fanatics! The Cause does not only have to be Radical Islam. Look around yourself...if you live in the USA. More and More People are becoming CONSCIOUS and AWAKE...of their governments "Mother Of ALL LIES" Scenario! Surely, "INTERNAL" elements will Contribute to this WAR OF ALL TIMES...as well!!! Very observant of you Adam... Edward. | ||
George Member Post Number: 67 Registered: 03-2003 |
So it looks like you not only need a safe Southern Hemishere area but also some well prepared deep old mineshaft with water supply that cannot be poisoned from above. We would probably need to stay in it anywhere from 2 to 5 yrs. until rain effectivly washes out and neutrilizes all/most radiation and poisoning. Which also suggests that location should be in a good rain precipitation zone? George | ||
Phil638 Member Post Number: 99 Registered: 07-2004 |
I don't think you need to go to that extreme because you can always boil whatever waters around. I think to be in a safezone you only need to be situated anywhere in one of the few countries that are geographically situated in the southern parts of the southern hemisphere. phil | ||
Kingman Member Post Number: 15 Registered: 07-2004 |
Radiation can't be boiled away. If we come to experience WWIII there will be nowhere uneffected. And if nukes are used the rest of whats left of our ozone layer will be zapped exposing all to deadly rays from our sun. Expect a hell scenario. When madness rules the world, we head towards destruction. The current world leading country is controlled by a political party run by the corporations so the only desire is profit. And the recent hurricane Katrina has spotlighted the shortsighted greed this government is blinded with. Lets hope more of us over here wake-up when the truth stares them in the face. All evidence points to a uncaring leadership that has nothing but themselves to be concerned about. The planet earth has spoke up and these people better start listening. a friend in america Shawn | ||
Mdaglioglu Member Post Number: 20 Registered: 04-2004 |
Hi Shawn and All, I have doubts about hurricane Katrina being earth oriented. There are some referring to artificial hurricane bombs in Prophecies book. I am not in USA but as I read it is a serious hurricane. Could you (all people in US) tell me what are the similarities and differences comparing with the other hurricanes, already happened, Peace, Murat | ||
Jo_jo Member Post Number: 67 Registered: 04-2003 |
There are "conspiracy theories" around indicating the path of the hurricane was directed by satellite-based lasers controlled by US black op's characters (under direction of the World Bank/International Monetary Fund) to cause havoc and damage the Gulf Coast oil extraction facilities and oil refineries for the purpose of raising oil and gas prices. Another theory has the US Army Corps of Engineers blowing up the levees protecting New Orleans to cause its flooding/destruction resulting in properties being condemned so that developers can snap it up on the cheap and rebuild the city in the image of a new Las Vegas. | ||
Markc Member Post Number: 226 Registered: 06-2000 |
Hi Murat ; This hurricane was more severe ( category 5 ) , and the city has known for years that they could barely survive a category 4 . The theories sound possible , and I'm looking forward to reading what Billy has to say about it . Mark Mark Campbell | ||
Kingman Member Post Number: 17 Registered: 07-2004 |
Hi Murat, Jo_jo and all, Our hurricane season has grown deadlier the last few years when viewed against the normal average season. Global warming has been credited for just such a scenario of increased intensity. We hear some experts denying this, saying that the oceans surface tempature in the Gulf of Mexico doesn't have that much effect on storms, because it is just the very top of the water that is now 90 degrees. The truth is these storms are driven by the rising heat of the ocean the hurricane is over, so the temperature on the surface is the temperature that is fed to the storm. It doesn't need to be deeply heated. Unfortunately we continue to be given info that denies the engine of global warming as the cause of the increased energy of these storms. Disinformation will continue to be the most powerful and effective weapon of those who control our world. The internet is our defense for this. We just need to carefully train ourselves to filter out the garbage from the gold. Even a lie must contain truth to be a lie. If I have trouble with grasping what really seems to be going on in a important world event, I start to look for who benefits, where are the angles of control or profit sitting, who are the enemies of the enemie involved and the backgrounds of the individuals involved. Clues abound. Disinformation is always guaranteed. The term 'conspiracy theory' has been cheapened here by the likes of radio host such as Rush Limbau or by TV personalities like the Fox Network host's such as Bill O'Reilly. So anytime a unheard of idea is postulated, the theory gets bunched in with all the other unbelievable theories which are usually from the disinfo artists. Recent polls have shown these personalities having their ratings drop as never before. This hints at a new era of a balance between those who sleep through events and those who pay attention. This has peaked in favor of people now waking up and sensing a true dangerous force running American policy. An additional reality is this horrible 'Katrina' world event has a unique silverlining. The Bush Cabal has been caught in their true uncaring light showing to all what they are really about. The forces of good are finally becoming better organized here. In true Creational form the pendulum has slowed down and is going to return it's energy from where it came. One single mother stayed in the searing heat of Bushes hometown while he was there on vacation and created a focused human emotion that helped slow down that cause and effect pendulum, which I sense is the marker for real change over here in the US. Unfortunately the storms will keep coming. This is only the beginning. a friend in america Shawn | ||
Eric_drouin Member Post Number: 92 Registered: 05-2004 |
Hi: An article from Scott Ritter, former UN inspector in Iraq: The Iran "trap" http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/1A678E7E-2612-4B21-8D21-04E6D5FC5D54.htm Salome Eric | ||
Kingman Member Post Number: 64 Registered: 07-2004 |
Here's some very telling info when you desire to research where some of our barbarian war attitude comes from, it's not necessarily because "It's in our blood". It's in their blood.... http://www.iamthewitness.com/DarylBradfordSmith_Rothschild.htm a friend in america Shawn |
