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    Edward Member Post Number: 352 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi All... Something interesting the Pope said last year...which I still find very important to mention..for those who were not aware of this. This reminds me...Again..what Billy has mentioned decades ago, but thus, "Repeating" itself once again. Thursday, November 14, 2002 In historic speech, Pope urges Italians to have more children to reverse declining birth rate. The United Nations has warned that Italy's economic future is at risk because its shrinking work force will be unable to support its aging population without an influx of migrant workers. See:http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/news/archive/2002/11/14/inte rnational0629EST0506.DTL (Copy and Past to Location-bar. Its abit too long.) Edward. | ||
Norm Member Post Number: 633 Registered: 02-2000 |
My Question to Billy about the above! Billy, How the heck are we going to stop Overpopulation? When Economists keep telling everybody this? "Economists say that by 2015, Europe will face a declining population. It will need more immigrants, not fewer, if states are going to pay for the pensions and health-care systems of a graying population." ANSWER: Hi Norm, That's silly, stupid and near-sighted thinking. It's no solution at all! According to those unreasonable "economists" (= in this case "egoists") there must be a steady increase of people on an piece of land that is finite. Very silly. After me the flood.The only effective way to stop overpopulation is by exercising a birthrate check. | ||
Edward Member Post Number: 353 Registered: 05-2002 |
This was my point Norman! Made known this weekend. Prime minister Mr Berlusconi of Italy has announced that the Italian people should have more offspring to help and fulfill their country's "building-up" of it's economy. And who ever lives-up to this deed...will even be financially well rewarded. Just another Economist...who does not think of the Consequences...in the long run! Economist...or....Egoist!?? I was aware of this Norm. While today, Italy has lived-up to Birth-control standard rules. It being one of the countries..today..producing less offspring in the world. Italy today being populated with 57.4 million(UN, 2003) people. Edward. | ||
Eric_drouin New member Post Number: 3 Registered: 05-2004 |
Hi All: The Figu website Overpopulation section has been recently updated, with the following added: "On Thursday, April 8, 2004, at 8:00 pm, there lived 7,101,500,011 human beings on Earth!" Does anyone know the source of this information? The media are still talking of 6 000 000 people. Why this difference? Why nobody in the world (except Figu) is ringing the alarm bell? Any comments? Peace Eric | ||
Mhurley Member Post Number: 40 Registered: 04-2003 |
The difference is that the Earth statistic is an estimate (probably based on population census in respective countries) and the ET version is probably accurate obtained by some other means psychic or otherwise | ||
Memo00 Member Post Number: 21 Registered: 03-2004 |
hi eric the source must be the plejarans other people except for FIGU are not interested in overpopulation because they donīt think in a logical way (cause and effect) so they canīt see the relation between this and all the terrible things that are happening worldwide thats why it is so important for we to make this public so that the way of thinking of earth people can change slowly but surely take care and be well | ||
David_chance Member Post Number: 24 Registered: 03-2003 |
Just to note that there is another figure given by FIGU at the end (page 54) of the annually updated pricelist: http://www.figu.org/download/preisliste.pdf The current figure there is 7.3 Billion (Milliard). I'm not sure why the discrepency, unless the 7.3 Billion figure is based on probability calculations. | ||
Christian Moderator Post Number: 100 Registered: 02-2000 |
Hi David, This number will be reached by the end of this year. As of April 8, 2004, 8:04 pm, there lived 7,101,500,011 persons on Earth. Best regards, Christian PS: A statistics will be published soon in the Overpopulation section of our website. | ||
Eric_drouin Member Post Number: 10 Registered: 05-2004 |
Hello Christian: Can you please tell us the reference for this information, if available? Thank you! Peace Eric | ||
Whappybugger New member Post Number: 1 Registered: 05-2004 |
Hello everybody, I feel that in many countries especially Uk, overpopulation is supported, and there is such a lack of knowledge-and at the same time no desire to get such knowledge of life in the first place. Since the government pays people to have more children, they give no help for the environment. And not only is such misguided overpopulation supported, every friday so many misguided school kids as young as 14 are just looking to go out get drunk and f^^^, just because they think its kool. This creates so many unwanted pregnancies, and yet no serious effort is made - especially by parents. We then see the older generation worrying about there morgages and utility bills and council tax, there is so much stress created just from daily living to confuse anybody lost in the maze, that they dont want to spend time with their offspring and so they do not learn life and free will properly. | ||
Christian Moderator Post Number: 101 Registered: 02-2000 |
Hi Eric, The reference is Ptaah. He was asked by Billy upon my request for a couple of actual figures, the result of which can be seen here: http://www.figu.org/us/overpopulation/ueb_stat_e.htm Best regards, Christian | ||
Jay Member Post Number: 316 Registered: 01-2002 |
Hi Whappy, I agree with you on what happens in those countries, you haven't paid a visit to New York City. The Immigration and overpopullation is insane and not to mention how many mothers under the age of 20 are walking around with 2 and 3 - 4 year olds. As you mentioned, they get paid. I think in some ways this is being created or left in this manner for the purpose of slavery, more poeple in this situation creates more babies for what I call "THE FIRE WARS" or shall I put in another way, KIDS FOR THE FIRE, a fire for future wars and such. Saalome and BE WELL to ALL 
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Whappybugger New member Post Number: 2 Registered: 05-2004 |
I feel if we really want to do something properly about overpopulation, whole societies need to change the way they think, we can talk to someone the otherside of the world but we never talk to our neighbor, something serious needs to happen, many are noticing things are happening - but by the time every one clicks it will be too late, thought needs go into changing free-will and freedom into a prodctive mannor - we need to start taking desire for the latest thing (ie car, house etc) and turning it looking after what we have. It has reached a point where too many are decieved as we all know , and yet if we try to do something ie tell them that there is more to life they look at you as if your crazy. I feel that ne need to look at tv as another means find ways of offering programs that enable people to learn abut themselves and the way they behave. Advertising is everywhere and that needs to be stopped - if people can be helped to learn basics of self control such as meditation - there is so much effort made on this subject but not enough. I accept you cannot force it upon somebody, but time needs to betaken out on every individual to show them the true facts of life - peace out | ||
Whappybugger New member Post Number: 4 Registered: 05-2004 |
hello jay - I wrote that last before I read your reply! I agree with what you say their, there is enough evidence as to why with the current situation of the earth... So with that happening the overpopulation will just fight with itself and then it will sorted again, but cause so much damage in the process. dem gone... Best wishes and Grow yourselfs everyday, whappy | ||
Eric_drouin Member Post Number: 35 Registered: 05-2004 |
Hello all: I heard today on the canadian public radio network that UN just published new statistics on world population, estimated to be 6,400,000,000. They mentioned that population increase rate was "reduced" due to AIDS epidemics, specially in Africa. That report mentioned apparently that overpopulation is a burden on earth environment and world natural resources. (Finally some people outside FIGU start to be lucid!!!!!) IT also mentioned that population would "stabilize" around 9 billions (milliards)in 2050 because birth rate would then equal death rate. But i don`t see any info on this this evening in the headlines tonight on news web site (what a shame). Salome Eric | ||
Tjames New member Post Number: 3 Registered: 12-2004 |
To all members, I was reading my daily news (not from the mainstream media) from breakfornews.com and an article was put up that stated our government and the U.N. could very quickly unleash a 10-point plan to get rid of numerous diseases, increase life in third world nations, get basic education, healthcare and so on... However, the time-frame the Gov. put on the task was a decade. The point I'm trying to make is the administration in the U.S. could unleash the relief right now. A ten year plan is just an excuse for procrastination. Also regarding overpopulation, after reading this article a very important question stirred in me. If we eliminate many forms of diseases, poverty, and worldwide famine thus increasing living conditions we automatically increase the population long-term. My question is, if we do all of this global relief, then releasing a 7-year birth control plan (assuming a 3rd world war doesn not transpire) spread out in intervals on and off every (##) years, and put a limit to how many offspring a couple can have, than how do we enforce this law?!?! Do we put the guilty parties in jail and kill the children (seriously) If were not suppose to kill another human being according to creation's law, than are there exceptions in extreme cases. If anyone has answers to these questions or just thoughts. Salome, Tim | ||
Edward Member Post Number: 460 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi All... Just happen to had this interesting information from Wendelle Stevens' - CONTACT FROM THE PLEIADES -. Speaking of Overcrowding/Overpopulation! I generally do not post from his translations knowing that there are errors known. But this information I just found too interesting; for those who are not yet known with this contact-note's information. If this contact translation is without error..it sure is remarkeble. Meier - ... How far outside our solar system is the next innabitated system, and does that world's inhabitants know of our Earth? Ptaah - The next inhabited system is around five light years away from Earth. Different worlds in that system are inhabited by human forms of life, who differ little from your races. In their development, they are some years in advance of that of Earth human beings, spiritually as well as technologically. They have already achieved space flight in primitive form, and also do visit Earth. Because their cosmic flight capabilities are very limited, they depend on assistance stations. Mid-way between their world and Earth, they have constructed a space station, which you can see far outside in space there (pointing to the viewing screen). They need such stations because they are still unable to launch their ships over large distances. Also, connected to their space-flight now is severe body pain, from which they narcotize themselves for longer journeys in the cosmos. Besides the other races of these worlds, this one race comes often to Earth. This is because their homeworld, which is no greater than Earth herself, suffers from - OVERCROWDING -, and needs huge quantities of food. For this reason, beings from that planet, called AKART come to Earth often, to collect there plants, vegetables, fruits and grains, to nourish their - 23 BILLION - population. They are mostly satisfied with taking seeds of fruits, grains, and vegetables, and also plant stocks, to set out on AKART - to grow there. They collect more useable nourishment's on other (less populated) worlds which they also visit often and periodically. In them selves, these forms are of rather peaceful character, and have had to suffer much in the last centuries. Today they live under a dictatorship, as you would call it, by which they have relatively better living conditions. Their great problem is their severe overcrowding, which they could relieve by emigration, but their technologies have not solved space transportation on sufficient scale to be of help. And we, on Earth, thought we had severe Overcrowding/Overpopulation problems!! Edward. Hi Edward, Just some information I came across. Wendelle Stevens also put out a book titled something like "Contact from Planet Acart". This book was about a person from earth who was picked up and taken to this planet for 3 days. Whether the story is legitimate or not, I'm not sure. Also, one of the Passive Members came across this information from Ptaah regarding Akart a few years ago: "The population of that human-inhabited planet, Akart, about the same size as Earth, suddenly swelled with 62 Billion refugees, who arrived on Akart as refugees from wars in their own home systems. The population of Akart went up to an unbelievable number of 126 billion. Naturally, the planet could not support such a gigantic number of people and a pestilence broke out. In only 18 months, 124.5 billion people died. This was called the "Time of the Great Death". The planet today has a population of 1.26 Billion, about 1 % of what it was before 99% were decimated." Regards Scott | ||
Edward Member Post Number: 461 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi Scott... Yes, I was also aware of the mentioned book. If based on Truth or not, I share the same feelings as you. And yes, I must say that is very very interesting information the Passive Member mentioned!! I guess that MASSIVE Overcrowding of population, Naturally generates it's Own Solution, which speaks for it's self, and by Logic Cosmic/Creational Laws; concerning its resulted Effect which was to be the Pestilence. This does remind of the Middle Ages' Scenario of what the Pest did to Europe. But than only on a smaller scale...so to speak. Too many people, not enough food....WAR...no healthy Hygiene...etc..etc. The True "Circumstances" for such "Ingredients" as a Pestilence to generate it's self, and to a Downfall by it's Own Consequences! And as fast as the Pest came, it suddenly Vanished! After sacrificing the Millions of Millions of people dying from this Consequence; NATURE managed to Balance-out it's Self...and cease to generate the Pestilence any further. And so, This IS the Nature...of NATURE. Healing It's Self. And so, NATURE and it's Laws take it's Course...from Logic. And as some of us have noticed, WE....On Earth, today, have Directed ourselves, Also...to this Same End Result/Scenario....Alas. Not Nature nor Creation is to blame for this act of generated Consequence(s) and it's Result - Effect -, but MAN himself - Cause -(as Usual). "The Causality Learning Process Of MAN"...if I may express it in this manner. Thus, we can Conclude: Overcrowding/Overpopulation is also a Universal Learning Process, which any Human life-forms in Creation will experience some time or another. If not by Neglect to the Laws of Nature and Creation and Common Sense and Logic, and Reason, it be by Destine Circumstances. Thank you Scott...for the additional information. Edward. | ||
Memo00 Member Post Number: 107 Registered: 03-2004 |
hi Tjames the info that you are searching for can be found in the FIGU website in the Overpopulation section among many other things: 1-persons who have more than 3 kids must be sterilized (both male and female), and pay a fine = 10 years of salary of both parents 2-the kids must NOT be killed (Billy and the FIGU are against capital punishment) the goverment must take care of them and educate them 3-people who rape another human being must be castrated and live isolated from society for the rest of his/her life mmmmmm taking in count what happened in that ET planet this measures donīt sound so hard . . . | ||
Nils Member Post Number: 24 Registered: 04-2004 |
Hi Scott & Edward: ------------------------------------------------ In only 18 months, 124.5 billion people died. This was called the "Time of the Great Death". The planet today has a population of 1.26 Billion, about 1 % of what it was before 99% were decimated. ------------------------------------------------- One might wonder where all these spirits reincarnated. Could this be the reason for the population explosion here on Earth?? Cheers, Niels | ||
Edward Member Post Number: 464 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi Niels.. I can not be too sure, but if I am correct: if the Spirit-forms are of Extraterrestrial origin, and by War, or other circumstances had to migrate to, for example AKART; when they die they would return back to their planet of origin. Unless, they have existed long enough to have Evolved into the migrated planet's Evolution Cycle. Thus, have been "Integrated" into the Consciousness Collective, thus, dan, would... reincarnated within the boundaries of that planet they migrated to. Overcrowding/Overpopulation is just a Manifestation of MAN's Uncontrolled desire to Multiply. The "Mind Over Matter" Process...seems Still, to be the Weakness to an endless number of Earth Human Beings. Thus, WE, Generate the Overcrowding/Overpopulation of Human Beings as well as the Spirit-forms that embody them. Unless, Creation takes it's own steps, if need to be the case. Edward. | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 593 Registered: 07-2000 |
Hello Niels, When a person dies on a planet, the spirit form is tied to that planet unless the planet becomes incapable of supporting life. At that point the spirit form will eventually migrate to a compatible planet to continue its evolution. Spirit forms do not wonder from planet to planet in between life times. Hope this helps. Regards Scott | ||
Nils Member Post Number: 25 Registered: 04-2004 |
Hi Edward: I support the belief that the spirits follow the rule of the survival of the fittest. A spirit can not die or disappear, somehow. If a suitable intelligent body is not available on a planet, perhaps the best animal might do. Rather do I believe that the spirits seek the best matching planet where intelligent bodies become available for whatever reason they are conceived. It strikes me that if the number of human bodies exceed the number of highly developed spirits, we'll have a number of inferiour humans around the world. - And vice versa... Cheers, Niels |
