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Jokoveltman
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Post Number: 12
Registered: 11-2009
Posted on Friday, February 05, 2010 - 11:30 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I don't know how much help I can be, but count me in, too. (But shouldn't this be moved to the "Overpopulation" thread?)
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Thomas
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Post Number: 798
Registered: 03-2004
Posted on Saturday, February 06, 2010 - 03:49 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Stafath I don't want to be abrasive, but there is no "true name" for each o= f us.=A0 Our spirit has no name.=A0 Nokodemion, for example, is not BEAMs s= pirit name but only a name of an earlier incarnation.=A0 Of course you can = use any name that you choose.=A0 I agree with the point of view that we sho= uld make things work here on Earth because we are stuck here anyway.=A0 Als= o, sorry for the strange characters in my posts sometimes.=A0 It's a proble= m with my emails...
patricksdadinfrance@yahoo.com
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Techieatwork
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Post Number: 49
Registered: 08-2008
Posted on Saturday, February 06, 2010 - 05:48 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I've had this idea for some time, but I am not a computer graphic's artist:

having a fish tank and the fish reproducing uncontrollably and gradually change the color in the water (as the fish have to eat and drink their own feces), and showing more fish cluttering the place, and a voice-over explaining what it'd be like for the fish in there, until finally making the tank collapse..

This idea is for free for any of you to use, enhance, make it happen

(smiley face)

we can also present very rapidly many pictures of actual, real disasters.. I got a few of some rivers full of floating dead fish, and people scavenging on the surface on tiny little boats ..
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Salome
Carlos
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Stafath
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Post Number: 75
Registered: 02-2008
Posted on Saturday, February 06, 2010 - 10:46 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Meh Thomas.. I know that spirit has no name but my body has this Stafath name.

By the way I wanna live long. So where the heck I can get some heavy water?
I am a extraterrestial.
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Norm
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Post Number: 1329
Registered: 02-2000
Posted on Saturday, February 06, 2010 - 11:25 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Phi_spiral, You forgot the movie Soylent Green staring Charlton Heston.

"Soylent Green is a 1973 American science fiction film depicting a dystopian future in which overpopulation leads to depleted resources, which in turn leads to widespread unemployment and poverty. Real fruit, vegetables and meat are rare, expensive commodities, and much of the population survives on processed food rations, including "soylent green" wafers."
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Thomas
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Post Number: 799
Registered: 03-2004
Posted on Saturday, February 06, 2010 - 12:28 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Heavy water will kill you, not prolong your life.=A0 You were born on Earth= in your current body at least.
patricksdadinfrance@yahoo.com
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Thomas
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Post Number: 801
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Posted on Saturday, February 06, 2010 - 12:42 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Oh and the ocean is a great source of heavy water though it is only a small= percentage of the total water.
patricksdadinfrance@yahoo.com
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Markcampbell
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Post Number: 367
Registered: 10-2008
Posted on Saturday, February 06, 2010 - 07:55 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

In the Epic of Gilgamesh , the hero loses the plant which prolonged his life in the ocean and it was carried off by a snake . I think the word "plant" just might have been a synonym for a distillery , located in the ocean , to extract heavy water .

something tells me I've veered off topic .
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Stafath
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Post Number: 76
Registered: 02-2008
Posted on Monday, February 08, 2010 - 10:18 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I wanna live long. I don't like having this short lifespan.
I am a extraterrestial.
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Stafath
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Post Number: 77
Registered: 02-2008
Posted on Saturday, February 13, 2010 - 11:33 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm disappointed.. you make me feel like an outcast.
I am a extraterrestial.
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Thomas
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Post Number: 809
Registered: 03-2004
Posted on Sunday, February 14, 2010 - 12:33 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Do not take the comments badly Stafath, they are just meant to be honest (at least on my part). The truth is harsh at times but at least it lets you react to what truly is and not to what is wrongly perceived. Just be yourself and take into consideration that none of us in this life are leaving Earth...so making it a better place seems to be the best remaining choice, right??? :-)
patricksdadinfrance@yahoo.com
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Jokoveltman
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Post Number: 23
Registered: 11-2009
Posted on Sunday, February 14, 2010 - 02:02 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Stafath,

You are behaving like a child. I want this. I want that. I can't have it, so I'll feel sorry for myself and blame everyone who didn't give me what I want even though it is impossible to do so - my 6-year old daughter used to do the same thing.

Growing (and growing up) is hard, but one must, and there is no one else on any planet, in any galaxy, in any universe anywhere, who can do it for you; this is an unbendable, unbreakable Law of Creation, so the best thing you can do about it is simply accept it. Grab your bootstraps and begin pulling.

Peace,

Tim
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Bronzedesk
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Post Number: 69
Registered: 01-2009
Posted on Sunday, February 14, 2010 - 02:04 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Please Stafath don't judge us all so harshly we all are walking a likened path to enlightenment along with you and all others. We are a team and no one is above the other! Be strong my friend and walk the walk and talk the talk as... you see fit!

There is no right or wrong only Perspective!

~ A Fallen One

"Knowing others is wisdom; Knowing the self is enlightenment; Mastering others requires force; Mastering the self needs strength"

~ Lao Tzu
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First you forget names, then you forget faces. Next you forget to pull your zipper up and finally, you forget to pull it down. George Burns
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Gaiaguysnet
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Post Number: 946
Registered: 03-2004
Posted on Sunday, February 14, 2010 - 01:35 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dear Bronzedesk,

"There is no right or wrong only Perspective! "

WHAAAAAAAAT???????????????

Where did THIS idea come from? Not from Billy!

"no one is above the other! ~ A Fallen One"

So that means we're all fallen ones?

Please learn the material before you try to teach it, and stop putting false words into the mouth of the prophet.

Quoting religious leaders here is unwise, unless to show their ignorance.

Peace,
Dyson
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Sitkaa
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Post Number: 186
Registered: 10-2004
Posted on Sunday, February 14, 2010 - 08:16 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"There is no right or wrong only Perspective!"

I like this topic because it is something I think about on occasion. Here's my two cents on truth and perspective.

There can be many perspectives, it's true. There can be perspectives that oneself is right, and/or the someone else is wrong. And there can be perspectives where the roles are reversed. It is true that they are all just perspectives. However, some perspectives can be closer to alignment with some commonality than others, this commonality being consensual reality. Of course, discerning who is more righter and who is more wronger is cause of much dissension, but that doesn't mean that we should just chuck the entire relative concept of rightness and wrongness in the round file.

From at least one perspective there is only perspective, but this is not the only perspective. The void is big enough that everything can be true 'in' it, but for how long it is true or how well that truth relates to the truths around it before it is canceled out, that is a good question. Truth is a relative thing in that some things are more true than others, and these things last longer in the void. In the void, entire universes have been built up with ever more complex interactions of true statements and perspectives. However that everything can be true, some statements are in more alignment with everything else than others. And the physical universe does seem to have a single best alignment with the universal storyline - a single best truth that is true.

For instance, if you want to pattern yourself after a 'Fallen One', then this perspective may last you for awhile until you come into contact with some more deeply true perspective, something with which you can better align yourself.

So yes, there is only perspective, and there is more, just as there is only one truth that is true, even in a construct that is big enough to hold an infinite number of truths.

Be curious to hear what Billy has said on this.
Love is always the way
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Scott
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Post Number: 1930
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Posted on Monday, February 15, 2010 - 06:56 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Back to the topic please
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Bronzedesk
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Post Number: 70
Registered: 01-2009
Posted on Monday, February 15, 2010 - 07:09 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Awe, we've found a new one to pick on!

Dearest Dyson rather than peace you've left me, in pieces! Bits and pieces for that matter, wow what a truly astute thinker you are! Riddle me this...I am no teacher you are my teacher and as for the fallen one... Korea and Vietnam did that with a tinge of Agent Orange on the side with a few golden BB's! I am and always will be a soldier and perspective is and always will be a good beginning but by no means a finality to an end as you would so eagerly like to think!

By the way what religious leader did I quote?


p.s. And would you die-literally for a cause or is it safer that you just sit talk and think about it safely simply because of those like me. Walk the walk and talk the talk and live it ~ I have!

Yours truly,

~ a fallen one<---proudly at least, two wars worth!

I eagerly await, your well chosen retort!
First you forget names, then you forget faces. Next you forget to pull your zipper up and finally, you forget to pull it down. George Burns
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Bronzedesk
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Post Number: 71
Registered: 01-2009
Posted on Monday, February 15, 2010 - 11:14 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Scott and all the other moderator's: Please forgive me for getting off the topic, but just had to give my two cents worth! My humble apologies to the board and all it won't happen again!

~ a fallen one.

p.s. a small correction on my previous post.... these apparently weren't wars but so called police actions <--- go figure !!!
First you forget names, then you forget faces. Next you forget to pull your zipper up and finally, you forget to pull it down. George Burns
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Gaiaguysnet
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Post Number: 958
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Posted on Monday, February 15, 2010 - 07:03 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dear Bronzedesk,

I'll do my best to get back to you on the Spiritual Teaching thread asap.

Best,
Dyson
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Gaiaguysnet
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Post Number: 961
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Posted on Monday, February 15, 2010 - 11:00 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dear Bronzedesk (for want of a better name),

Sorry, comrade. No offence meant. We're all only human, and I tend to initially take people at strictly face value here on this faceless forum. I didn't mean to reach into the wound.

I'm a Viet Nam era vet myself - although, in the USAF (ATC radar technician, Sgt.), I didn't see combat - but I did lose most of my buddies.

Yeah. I walk the walk. Somewhere on the WWW you can find where Vivienne and I are publicly threatened with kidnapping and death-by-torture. Don't take my word for it. See for yourself. And that was just a PUBLIC threat! And we reckon that I got zapped one morning by one of those heart-attack weapons the bad guys use too. (No permanent harm done. Too ornery.) And my neighbour was murdered, (.22 bullet in the back of the head) in a botched hit. And that's by no means all, but to say more would lead too far, as Ptaah says.

Anyway, the good news is that it's twenty-ten and we all survived to find the truth, and the truth will empower you. And the truth is, that consensus reality is utter crap. Just because all the lemmings are jumping over the cliff doesn't mean that it's right and it doesn't mean that you and I are going to do it either.

The wonder and the magic of Billy Meier's work is that it informs us - in great detail - that what we all knew, deep down, is true. There IS a universal morality, being an eternal and immutable ethical framework which strictly applies to all sentient being in all universes. What's truly good and right and what's truly bad and wrong transcends all cultural, racial, social, planetary - whatever - divides. This is the truth that you can find here, not "there is no right or wrong" - just exactly the opposite. We are even largely informed about what's right and wrong. But in German, so we do have to work for it. But striving is also all part of how it works. If it comes on a platter, we end up not being able to digest it, nor derive any nourishment from it. But the most basic of the renewed teaching of the truth dovetails perfectly with what we already know in our hearts, as I said, and it unlocks the best within us, and it lifts up all of us. It is the tide that lifts all the boats. It's what religion is supposed to be but obviously isn't. Be glad that we lived to see it, even if only at this earliest stage.

The Plejaren say that it is an illusion to see separate individuals, because, in truth, we are all a "we-form" with nothing real separating us. We feel each other's pain and exalt in each other's joy. And that "we-form" truly extends to everything, and it's perception is the definition of love itself.

Religious leader? Lao Tzu, of course. But don't get me wrong. I've nothing personal against Taoism. It comes closer to the truth than anything ever did pre-Billy. I used to have hundreds of thousands of words about it on our gigantic whisleblowers' website, including this in its entirety:

http://www.mit.edu/people/dpolicar/writing/prose/text/godTaoist.html

But when you find the Meier material - being the ancient, but renewed, teachings upon which ALL the faiths and ideologies were originally based - you'll never go back to the imitations.

I hope this is what you expected, brother. I'm just the messenger.

Cheers!

Dyson
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Bronzedesk
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Post Number: 72
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Posted on Tuesday, February 16, 2010 - 07:09 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

A Team we are and a team we will always be, I will always check and be on your 6!

["The Proud... the Few... the Ugly!"]
First you forget names, then you forget faces. Next you forget to pull your zipper up and finally, you forget to pull it down. George Burns
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Rarena
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Post Number: 565
Registered: 10-2005
Posted on Tuesday, February 16, 2010 - 07:33 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Concerning our learning environment... Here is an interesting perspective from contact 214 or 213 by Billy when speaking with Quetzel...

Quetzal:
32. We stand by our mistakes.

Billy:
A strong feature of yours. Unfortunately, with the Earth people, that isn’t exactly a strength, for they don’t like to admit mistakes; rather, they presume themselves as flawless and as better than everyone else, to whom they point out any mistakes.
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Justsayno
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Post Number: 137
Registered: 10-2009
Posted on Wednesday, February 17, 2010 - 10:25 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Bronzedesk, I've never seen an ugly human. Ugly only comes from within. I'm guessing that you're actually quite a beautiful person?
Hi Randy, love that quote.
Sheila

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