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Der_beobachter
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Posted on Saturday, February 25, 2006 - 10:33 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Whoever it May Concern,

Die Prophezeiung - The Prophecy



Der Beobachter....IS a Sagitarius...and Number 7...
I DBE am watching all these things happening...All I want to know IS HOW WE CAN CHANGE ALL THIS BELOW. Is there time left enough????

It is already happening...happening in front of your very eyes...and the time is is passing fast...

Save This Planet
Save This Planet...

TJ 26:10.Gesetze und Gebote nach den Menschen gemacht, zeugen Mord und alles Böse, allso das Übel sich ausbreitet und überhandnimmt und der Mensch keine Kontrolle mehr darüber hat. - Talmud Jmmanuel

TJ 26:10. "Man-made laws and commandments produce murder and all manner of evil, and as evil spreads and gains the upper hand, man no longer has control over it. - Talmud Jmmanuel

“..According to the Pleiadians, it will not be easy to make this clear to the people of Earth in their present stage of development. They are already too softened and have strayed from the knowledge of truth to the point that they energetically resist everything that sounds like the hard truth.

Hence, know thyself. He who bears the hard, undiplomatic language of truth and acknowledges its worth will find himself on the right path of veritable evolution. Otherwise, for the time being, this way will remain barred to him through hindrances that he must clear away. “(excerpted from Guido Moosbrugger's brilliant 2001 book, And yet ... they fly! pages 70-71)


http://www.gaiaguys.net/meierv6p379.htm


Warmongers

TJ 25:43.43. Der Mensch aller Zeiten achte darauf:Wo das Aas ist, da sammeln sich die Geier; also er sich vor ihnen hüte. - Talmud Jmmanuel

TJ 25:43. "People of all times, beware: where the carcass is, there the vultures gather, so watch out for them. - Talmud Jmmanuel

A) To The Statesmen In Power And To Mankind Of Earth
http://www.figu.org/us/figu/bulletin/s02_to_the_statesmen.htm


RAGGED FLAG BY NATURE
B) G.W. Bush and Cohorts
http://www.figu.org/us/figu/short_articles/america2.htm

C) One More Important Word
http://www.figu.org/us/figu/bulletin/s02_one_more_important_word.htm


Innocent
D) Atrocities of War of the USA
http://www.figu.org/us/figu/bulletin/s02_atrocities_of_war.htm


WARMONGER Bush
E) Punishment must be
http://www.figu.org/us/spiritual_teaching/punishment_must_be.htm



G) "... we distance ourselves from America." - Ptaah
http://www.gaiaguys.net/meierv7p432.htm

H) Bad news for so-called "truth-seekers" who don't bother to learn the German language
http://www.gaiaguys.net/meierv7p22-23.htm

Überbevölkerung
I) To The People Of Earth!
http://www.figu.org/us/spiritual_teaching/to_the_people.htm


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J) Mohammed's Teachings were also Falsified
http://www.gaiaguys.net/meier.mohammed.05.htm


French Riot2
K) Billy Meier Specifically Warned of Current Paris Riots - on November 23, 1981!

http://www.theyfly.com/news2005/nov05/nov05.htm

The recent unrest in France regarding Muslims rioting and setting fires in a Paris suburb seems to indicate that the prophetic warnings, published by Meier in 1981 and 1987, may be slowly fulfilling themselves, unfortunately. - Michael Horn

Here are the two excerpts:
November 23, 1981

“Italy and France will be shaken, due to revolutionaries, who murderously and by arson destroy every order: Paris will be destroyed from within and burnt down. The inhabitants themselves are those, who lay Paris into rubble and ashes via murder, arson and revolution, while Italy also falls due to massacres…”
Henoch Prophecies, February 28, 1987
“France will not only be invaded by the aggressors from the outside, but will also be conquered from within as a result of collaborative forces and other forces. This can be envisioned as being the many foreigners of a different religion living in France at that time, and specifically Islam, which will be this force working from within…”



The Peace Brought by Religion and Politics

L) THE HENOCH PROPHECIES
http://www.theyfly.com/prophecies/prophecies.htm

Presented by Quetzal 215th Contact, Saturday, February 28, 1987, 2.09 am
© Billy Meier/FIGU 2002–2004

Destruction in North America

Far in the West, it will be different; the United States of America will be a country of total destruction. The cause for this will be manifold. With her global conflicts which are continuously instigated by her and which will continue far into the future, America is creating enormous hatred against her, worldwide, in many countries. As a result, America will experience enormous catastrophes which will reach proportions barely imaginable to people of Earth. The destruction of the WTC, i.e., the World Trade Center, by terrorists will only be the beginning.

Arsenal

Yet all the apocalyptic events will not only be brought about due to the use of unbelievably deadly and destructive weapons—such as chemical, laser and others—and by cloned murder machines; but in addition to this, the Earth and nature, maltreated to the deepest depths by the irresponsible human beings of Earth, will rise up and cause destruction and bring death onto the Earth. Enormous firestorms and gigantic hurricanes will sweep over the USA and bring devastation, destruction and annihilation, as this from time immemorial never before will have happened [sic].

Not only will America, but also all other Western industrial countries which still live at the beginning of the new millennium in the delusion that they could dominate and rule over underdeveloped nations, i.e., Third World countries, will not only soon lose influence over these but must defend themselves against them.

According to the prophecies of Henoch, the truth about industrialized countries is that they only seem to appear to be true civilizations, but in fact they are not; because more and more, at the end of the 20th century and at the beginning of the third millennium, they will disregard all true love, true freedom and true wisdom as well as true peace along with all values of humaneness and all values of men's and women's true being.

But not even all the terrible happenings will hinder the USA in continuing to proceed with her actions against all countries. Even when the North American continent will be stricken by the most terrible catastrophe which has ever been recorded, evil military powers will wreak havoc with computerized and nuclear, biological and chemical weapons, whereby it will also happen that computerized weapons become independent and cannot be controlled any longer by human beings. Overall, this is the most important part of Henoch's prophecies.

Worldwide natural catastrophes

As already mentioned, enormous natural catastrophes and rolling walls of fire and violent hurricanes will rage all across America, while, in addition, all the terrible effects of war will bring thousandfold deaths, destruction and annihilation. America's largest cities will be absolutely destroyed, and firestorms will cause great disaster and misery.

Severe earthquakes and volcanic eruptions will also belong to that time, and these will cause much suffering and misery and deaths besides enormous destruction and devastation, as all of nature and the planet itself will rise up against the insanity of human beings on Earth.

DESERVING IT
DIE KRAFT DER SCHÖPFUNG. THE POWER OF CREATION.}

However, tornadoes, earthquakes and volcanic eruptions will not only rage in America, but also in Europe and in the rest of the world.



TJ 25:45.Die Gefüge der Erdenhimmel und der lüfte werden gestört sein, und das Land wird brennen durch das schwarze Dil der Erde, entzündet durch die Machtgier der Menschen, und der Himmel wird sich verdunkeln durch Rauch und Feuer, die allso tausend Tage wüten werden und alles über dem brennenden land und weit darüber hinaus mit schwarzem Russ bedecken werden; und also werden die Wetter zusammenbrechen und grosse Kälte und viele Tode kommen über die Menschen, die Pflanzen und Tiere und über die Erde, durch die unvernünftig entfaltete Gewalt der Menschen, die da leben werden in der Gier nach Macht und Sucht und Laster.

TJ 25:45. "The makeup of the Earth's sky and air will be disturbed, and the land will burn because of the black oil of the Earth, ignited by people's craving for power. The sky will darken because of smoke and fire, which will rage for a thousand days, and everything above the burning land and far beyond will be covered with black soot. Consequently the weather will break down, and severe cold and much death will come over the people, plants and animals, and over the Earth, as a result of the senselessly unleashed forces of the people who live in lust for power, evil passions and vices.

These activities have already begun at the present time, also during the past decades—with the exception that they will become increasingly more devastating in the future. And man of Earth is guilty for the most part today, as also in the future it is man who will destroy the entire environment—all of nature, the atmosphere, water and all the resources of the planet.

U.S.A

And through this, a shifting of weight inside the Earth takes place, caused for example by the creation of gigantic lakes by damming and by creating hollow caverns due to the exploitation of petroleum and gas, etc.


And thereby unnatural inner-Earth movements are created, which also lead to unnatural tectonic effects and cause earthquakes and volcanic eruptions, which also in turn cause enormous climatic changes, resulting in horrendous tornadoes of devastating proportions which in the end will set their destructive energies free on the entire world. All of this will lead to increasingly horrible floods and unusually massive snowfalls which will advance to the southern countries and finally even to the equatorial regions, because through the insanity of human beings the Earth has begun unnoticeably to spin [strangely] as a consequence of atomic explosions inside and on the surface of the Earth. And this will be the reason that the planet will slowly but surely enter an extraordinary spinning orbit around the Sun, while the first phase is already occurring, which causes a change in climate, leading to a new ice age.


TJ 25:9. Die Menschen werden hören von Kriegen und Kriegsgeschrei, so sie sehen sollen und nicht erschrecken, denn das muss so geschehen; aber es ist noch nicht das Ende.

TJ 25:9. "People will hear about wars and threats of war, and they are to witness this
but not be frightened because it must transpire; but it will not yet be the end. - Talmud Jmmanuel


Die Prophezeiung

TJ 25:10. Denn es wird sich erheben gar manches Volk wider seine Obrigkeit und ein Volk sich wider das andere und ein Königreich sich wider das andere, und es werden sein teure Zeiten und Erdbeben und grosse Unwetter und Wasser hin und her. - Talmud Jmmanuel

TJ 25:10. "For many a nation will rise up against its government, one nation against another and one kingdom against another, and there will be times of privation, earthquakes And immense storms and floods all about. - Talmud Jmmanuel

TJ 25:25. Denn es wird alsbald eine grosse Trübsal sein, wie sie nicht gewesen ist von Anfang der Welt bisher und auch nicht wieder werden wird. - Talmud Jmmanuel

TJ 25:25. "Soon thereafter there will be a greater grief than there has ever been before since the beginning of the world, and than will ever be again. - Talmud Jmmanuel

TJ 25:28. Es wird aber sein Heulen und Zähneklappern, wenn jene Zeit herein bricht; durch die Unvernunft des Menschen und durch seine Gier. - Talmud Jmmanuel

TJ 25:28. "But there will be howling and chattering of teeth when this time is brought about by the people's lack of understanding and by their greed.- Talmud Jmmanuel

*******

666=ANTILOGOS

"In religious cult delusion since times of old you speak about an Anti-Christ about the man of evil, and about the beast of evil, about the number of evil - the 666. You are well aware of this evil, namely that it exists, however, again you mislead yourself in religious cult insanity. The evil you call Anti-Christ is in total accord to your erroneous belief of your cult religion. And you do not want to understand, that Anti-Christ and Christ etc. embody the Anti-Logos, created within Man by himself, due to his false doings in not adhering to the creative laws. You do not recognize that the Anti-Logos, which in your error belief you call Anti-Christ is embodied within Man, already has become active in the mighty ones of this world, who bring death and ruin to you and allow the prophecies to become reality, that the Anti-Logos will rule the world and eradicate all Logos, whereby two thirds of mankind will be murdered, when the time of the last Anti-Logos-Powers will roll over the Earth. Yet you still have time to halt this insanity. But hurry, for time is running short, before the epoch of bloody terrors begins, if you do not abandon the path of insanity. Terrible things will be announced to you, if you remain on the path which you have trod up to now. The Anti-Logos becomes overpowering and a gigantic threat. Mighty ones will arise, ensouled by Anti-Logos, cruel, bestialic and bloodthirsty. They will be the Anti-Logos itself, the evil in embodiment, which has been told to you since times of old in prophecies as the 666, which in your error belief you call Anti-Christ."

Semjase, in Contact #45 dated February 25, 1976


(Excerpt above from Contact #45 Non-Official Translation by Dyson Devine and Vivienne Legg)
Der Beobachter Edelweiß
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"Lernen, ohne zu denken, ist eitel;
denken, ohne zu lernen, ist gefährlich..."

"Learning without thinking is vain. Thinking without learning is dangerous..."

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Der_beobachter
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Posted on Monday, February 27, 2006 - 01:27 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Marc my good friend!

This is a picture of me: and I smile like this: .

I just loved your last posting above Marc.

Pity the postings of mine are being "censored" so to speak...

It seems I am considered a "personna non grata" here at Figu Discussion board and all around the globe Marc...
Der Beobachter Edelweiß
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"Lernen, ohne zu denken, ist eitel;
denken, ohne zu lernen, ist gefährlich..."

"Learning without thinking is vain. Thinking without learning is dangerous..."

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Markc
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Posted on Monday, February 27, 2006 - 10:28 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hola DB ;

I don't see how you mean "personna non grata " ...? Not you , friend ! You tell it like you see it , unbridled and fearless . Your approach may seem extreme , but it is your own , and should be apologetic to NOONE.

Thanks for your energy with everything we know about .

Salome , Mark
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Kiril
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Posted on Tuesday, February 28, 2006 - 03:25 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Der_beobachter: I think its better to place your focus more on the solution rather then the problem.
--------------------The Creational Man--------------------
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Consolato
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Posted on Wednesday, March 08, 2006 - 05:05 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Gaiaguysnet said:

"Con, when you have settled down and stopped all your cutting and pasting, I'll try to make the time to figure out what your point is, and I'll get back to you here, OK?"

I thank Der_beobachter for firing me up there over his thickhead mistake he kept repeatingly saying and making about me, accusing me of believing in a real antichrist, and also for all my cutting and pasting too. I was telling Der_beobachter from the 15th of Feb that I am not saying that Bush is the antichrist and he just wouldn't listen or believe me, and he kept posting all those posts to me right up to the 24th of Feb. What's worse is that I asked him numerous times why he believes that I am refering to Bush as the antichrist, and he never once bothered to tell me how or why he believes that I am refering to Bush as the antichrist. he didn't even have the decency to acknowledge/apoligise for the mistake he made about me, which caused me to be so infuriatingly frustated and angry for the past two weeks, and also needlessly causing this heated discussion too, not only that but also for getting me angry with the moderators here too. I also like to apologise for what I said to both moderators and take back what i said about them. I hope they also understand and see that i didn't mean it too, and only said it only because of how angry and frustated I was with what Der_beobachter was doing to me. I think is was most rude of Der_beobachter to just walk off like that and not apologise to me for his careless misunderstanding and for what he had caused me with some of the degrading things he was saying about me in those continuous posts of his. This is just one of dozens of things he was saying to degrade me and he posted this on the 24rd of Feb which was well before the 15th of Feb when he put his first post in to me here and I gave him adequate material and proof that what he is saying about here is wrong. This is all just from one of his post -

Der_beobachter said on the 24rd Feb:

"I say here in full words THAT YOU are the wrong one here pal completely immerserd in your delusions Consolato. You try to put words into the mouth of people Consolato. And besides you insist in this "ANTICHRIST" "crap". Crap Consolato is your presuming, your assumptions, misguided things you write here. YOU Consolato is the WRONG one here."

"As the same as myself got so so so pi%&@d because of your long postings, your friend G.W BUSH your idol "the antichrist"

"I ask for excuses for my good friends Moderators for all this. This is the LAST time I post about these subjects related to Consolato and his thoughts."




They were all from just one post and here is an EXACT cut n paste of something he said to me in a post he posted on the 23rd of Feb which is the day before he posted all that degrading stuff about me there above he posted on the 24th of Feb. This clearly shows how he made his mistake about me and it also shows how selfish and rude it was of him just to end it like this, exact cut n paste -

"G E O R G E W A L K E R B U S H = A REAL BEAST 666 INDEED. But NOTHING TO DO to this Consolato´s crap "antichrist" BS that he became an addict by reading here:
http://www.bushisantichrist.com/

PERIOD.!!!!

Over...I am Disconnecting Consolato...for good."




And the only reason why Der_beobachter has not apologised to me yet for what he has caused/done to me is because he has an image/ego problem. (and he knows very well from the 25th of Feb that it was all his mistake he made, with saying all that antichrist crap to me and with how he was continuosly ridiculing me over it too!!) And for the record, i should post this just to show Der_beobachter how much of an image/ego problem I have. About a month ago at the start of this discussion here I stated a few times that Bin Ladne and George Bush were working together over 9/11. This is not true, but no-one had said anything to me. A few days later after reading through Gaiaguysnet Bin Laden section I discovered that I was wrong and of my own accord i posted a post of an apolology and also to let people know that what I said there was incorrect. i did this for the benefit of not misleading anyone with false information. Here is the first sentence of the post -


Consolato post 88:

"Dear Forum Members,

we are all here because we all share one thing in common with each other and that is we all seek the truth. I have stated something in this thread which I now believe is not true and wish to point it out to everyone for the benefit of the members and board. I stated that bin laden and george bush were working together over the 9/11 attacks and now I believe that is not true."

http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/14/5663.html

Der_beobachter that is not a person who has anywhere near the level of an image/ego problem like you do - Period.

I say all this negative stuff here about Der_beobachter because this a "spirituality" forum, and because of who Der_beobachter is and because of what he selfishly did here! All I can say to Der_beobachter is that he'd better not talk to me anywhere on this forum for quite some time about anything to do with spirituality, with how a spiritually orientated person should act around other people, or else you will cop a mouthful from me.

Hint - Rules and "Netiquette: "When writing your messages, please use the same courtesy that you would show when speaking face-to-face with someone. Flames, insults, and personal attacks will not be tolerated. It's fine to disagree strongly with opinions, ideas, and facts, but always with RESPECT for the other person."


This is the final thing I have to say on that matter to do with Der_beobachter there.




Dyson, I don't know if this is why but I think you've misunderstood me with what I've been trying to say here. (I'm probably certain it was because of reading all of Der_beobachter's posts he posted to me here about antichrist and is why I believe you said this to me in your first post here - Dyson said:"What is all this nonsense about an “Antichrist”?!What came over you?" :-()

I just like to say that whenever I was talking about 666 here, I have always been refering to 666 as purely in the numerology aspect of it, 666 is the cabalistic number based on a value which represents evil, destruction, annihilation of the truth etc. Isn't 666 first and foremost a number first?? A numerological number that respesents something/force, just like all numbers represent their own meanings/something?? And isn't it second that the 666 then is that ficticous 666 Jesus figure??? I said many times that I am not refering to 666 as the ficticous delusional figure from 2000 years ago, as is why I've never mentioned anything about antilogos in any of this. I got no idea why everyone keeps refering to that 666 ficticous figure whenever they say something about what 666 is??? I believe that the 666 that is centered around George Bush and his U.S. presidency has nothing to do with that 666 ficticous jesus/God 666 figure. There are a few reasons why I believe that Bush's 666's are not related to or even being part of the 666 figure from 2000 years ago. Firstly I like to say that I never read anywhere in the meier material or read anywhere at your gaiaguysnet 666 section website anything about how 666 actually works to decieve people. I could be wrong here but my guess is that 666 somewhat works by people holding a belief in their head about something (Jesus, God, Church, ect) that they think is true, but is false, but because of how this false belief/thing adds up to 666, it somehow has some sort of power over people in not letting them see the falseness of it. But I also think that for 666 to work over people, it partly needs some sort of emotion to work, and I think that the way that (Jesus, God, Church, ect) 666 figure from 2000 years ago to work over people is through fear, the fear people hold about what will happen to them when they die or what God will do them when they die. Thats my guess of how I think it works and I am talking purely numerology here is all. I don't know wether or not that is how it works, but that is the reason why I don't believe that Bush's 666's are related or have anything to do with that (Jesus, God, Church, ect) 666 figure, because Bush's 666's don't work through fear, but through sympathy from 9/11 attacks. If you read my 133 post where I gave my opinion of what i think is going on with that Bush666/911/Iraq senario, I mentioned how I think it might work. Ever since 9/11 happened the world's been listening to all the crap that George Bush is telling the world and they've also been watching what Bush has been doing with his army too and practicularly everyone believes him. But Bush is 666 and not just that, but more importantly, Bush's U.S. presidency is 666 too. (The number of the date when he was first elected Governor = 6. When he is first inaugurated Governor = 6. The number when he was inaugurated president of the United States = 6.) The world see's George Bush as being the U.S. president, far more so then seeing George Bush as a person.

Dyson, I liked to point something out because I don't know if you or anyone else here has picked up on this yet or not, so I'll just point it out. This one of the reason's why I believe Bush's 666's centered around him have got nothing nothing to do with the 666 (Jesus, God, Church, ect) figure from 2000 years ago. (I disagree with Der_beobachter who said that Bush is part of the 666 figure from 2000 years ago) In all of the meier material we were only told that 666 is derieved and can work from the value of letters like Jesus, God, Church, ect which add up to 666. We were never told that 666 could be derived and work from something like this - (The number of the date when he was first elected Governor = 6. When he is first inaugurated Governor = 6. The number when he was inaugurated president of the United States = 6.) i don't know if that could wrk like that but here are the freemason's doing it like that and they must seem to think that it can work for giving it to Bush's presidency, and apart from Billy and the plejarens, which one of us here can say that that will not work because aren't the freemason's the one's who are the experts in occult numerology?? Dyson, I'm pretty sure that you too probably have the same opinion as me there that the freemason's were the one's who gave Bush's presidency the 666 there, because that is exactly the type of stuff that the freemason's do. They mark their days and they would have definitely marked those days when they were corruptly setting up George Bush into office. I also like to say that I didn't need to watch those recent 9/11 conspiracy films for me to believe that 9/11 was a setup. All I needed for me to believe that the freemason's had setup 9/11 was to see the entire World Trade Center event being underlined with the occultic number 11. I (phil638) posted that 9/11 facts chart early in 2005 and this is what I said there - Phil638 said in post 180: "the illuminati/freemason's organisation were responsible for the WTC attacks"

The other thing I'd like to say is about how Der_beobachter posted in with George Bush's name numerological code calculations which didn't add up to 666 like as what the bushisantichrist website had workout which was according to the two most commonly used systems in numerology today as well as in ASCII code too. Doesn't all that mean is just that 'creation' didn't give Bush his name 666's, because if creation was going to give Bush's name 666's (for Bush being responsible for the deaths of nearly 4 billion people if ww3 happens), creation would have given Bush's name 666's according to the same numerological code that Der_beobachter posted in by. So what's Bush's name doing adding up there to 666 in the other numerological codes then?? The reason why Bush's name could only add up to 666 in the other numerology codes, could only be either from being a coincedence or from either being given to Bush by freemason's. I don't buy it for a moment that its from coincedence, because for it to be a coincedence for Bush to be so strongly associated with so many number 6's and 666's is a 1 in 43,046,721,000 chance! I've been saying all along that it was from the freemason's who gave Bush his 6's and 666's, and I got no idea why the freemason's gave Bush his 666's in an incorrect numerological code, and all i can say is that there must be a reason there for that. I'd liked to say something else to back what I say here about the freemason's giving Bush his 666's as well as backing what I said in that Bush666/911/Iraq/world domination senario I posted in my 133 post. http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/14/5775.html

George Bush snr (freemason) ordered the desert storm war in Iraq and he never captured Saddam Hussien while he was there in Iraq and over the next decade we heard the U.S. say numerous times on TV that in hindsight the U.S. regretts/should have captured Saddam Hussien while they were there, saying because he was going to cause future problems. Then Bill Clinton (freemason) comes to U.S. presidency office and for the whole time during his eight years of U.S. presidency, Clinton spent it practicularly doing nothing else but doing all these mighty good noble things with bringing peace to waring nations in the middle east. How many times did we here people say on TV that the U.S. has done more for world peace in the past decade, then what all the other countries in the world combined have ever done over any time?? How good did the U.S. look in the world's eye's for sticking it's neck out when it didn't need to, and going to all that trouble of doing that good noble act like that for the sake of world peace, because there wasn't anything in it for U.S. to get out of it from doing that?? And wasn't it a bit over the top how Bill Clinton was pushing it so hard to get all these waring nations leaders to forgive and forget and to shake hands on the world center stage on TV, and with Bill Clinton (represents the U.S.) of course sitting right in the middle of them when they shake hands?? This is obviously so all the world can see how GOOD of a country the U.S. actually is and has become. Also during Clinton's presidency was when we heard about the first terrosists(?) failed world trade center bombing happened, which I think by now can safely be called a bogus terrorists WTC bommbing in light of what happened now after 9/11. (No prizes for guessing why the U.S. set that up.) Then after Clifton, Bush (freemason) gets corruptly elected into office, and shortly later 9/11 then happens!! How perfect! I can think of at least half a dozens (easy) reasons why Clinton was getting all those nations in the middle east to make peace amongst themselves, and just one of those reasons is that it would make it far more easier for the U.S. to get into and move around the middle east. I believe that the U.S./freemason's had 9/11 planned back when Bush snr was in U.S. presidency office. I believe it was all setup for George W. Bush and his 666's, both on him and also on his U.S. presidency too. I believe when the freemason's gave Bush his 666's, that the U.S./freemason's had planned on getting into the middle east back then as well as also getting/having plans set for U.S. world domination back then too. Of course they wouldn't have known it was going to be from attacking the WTC because the WTC buildings weren't around back then when Bush was born. I believe that the freemason's back then when Bush was born only had plans to use Bush's 666's centered around him and his U.S. presidency when they got Bush to office, and when they did, 9/11/Iraq is what ended up happening. And I believe that George Bush's 666's that are over him and his U.S. presidency has a lot to do, if not all to do with why that happened, and by that I am talking about the freemason's exploiting the numerlogy aspect of the 666's. It was an evil thing what the U.S. did by killing thousands of it's own innocent people in the 9/11 setup, and the events of 9/11 was also destruction as so too was what the U.S. did to Iraq when the U.S. invaded it too with the destruction of all those buildings in Iraq. 9/11 and the invasion of Iraq was also all lies too and it was all coming out of Bush's mouth. The annilation of the truth. (eg 1. the U.S. invaded Iraq using the excuse about the destruction of 9/11 and the massacre of 3000 of the U.S.'s people. The truth is that the U.S. has caused the deaths of at least 30,000+ Iraqi's to it's 3000 people it is using as the excuse for being there in Iraq, and the U.S. has also caused so much destruction in Iraq which would be the equilent of at least 100+ world trade centre Buildings, which is the other reason the U.S. is using for being their in Iraq. eg 2. Bin Laden supposedly did 9/11 and not Saddam Hussien) Why is everyone in the world turning a blind eye to what the U.S. is doing there?? Is this two examples of the annilation of the truth in 666 working?? And if we look at what the number 666 represents according to numerology, 666 is a cabalistic number based on a value which represents evil, destruction, annihilation of the truth etc. All of those three things there are all over the evil 9/11 setup, the invasion and destruction of Iraq and also all of Bush's lies that his been telling the world ever since then.

I would also like to point something else out too please because I'm sure that no-one would have probably noticed this yet. It is about the supposed typing error that was made in the contacts notes. Here is the question/comment again -


Contact 230 -

Billy: monstrous, really monstrous. it would also be just as monstrous if/when the world trade centre would be destroyed by terrorists with captured comercial airplanes, through which thousands of people would die, that Bush junior - and various of his criminal trusted ones knew that then, however undertook nothing against it. A criminal act that gains Bush the upper hand and he can let loose against Islam, naturally always under the cloak/veil that they would free the USA and the world from terrorism. It would not be discussed that it would be the Bushes who would bring the greatest terror over the world, at least for the next 15 years.

Quetzal: 666 that is correct.


Firstly just a reminder about what I had pointed out before about what the numerological cabalistic number 666 respesents - evil, destruction, annilation of truth, ect and how it can be seen happening all over what the U.S. did with the evil setup of 9/11/ivasion and destruction of Iraq/Bush's lies to the world/WW3/U.S. plans for world domination. Now lets just say for a moment that it was not a typing error that happened there and is what Quetzal really said and had meant. Looking at what's being said between Billy and Quetzal there with the light of the Bush666/911/Iraq senario i posted in my 133 post (http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/14/5775.html), it makes a lot of sense Quetzal saying 666 there, because it fits in perfectly with what they are talking about happening there in that picture and also fits in perfectly with the senerio i posted in my 133 post?? I also like to say that if that typing error that was made there, was made in any other sentence/question in that series of the contact notes, that it would not have made any sense being there at all unless it were in one of the questions/sentences that were talking about the 666 delusional ficticous Jesus God figure. I don't know what the nature was of how the typist made that particular typing mistake in that sentence, but I am of the opinion that it was not a typing mistake that the typist accidentally made there. I in fact believe that it could be a hint so to speak or involvement on the plejarens part. It is known that as part of their mission the plejarens are often sending telepathic messages/ideas/impulses unconciously to certain various people in the world. I think that one of the plejarens could have interferred there somehow and deliberately caused the typist to make that typing mistake there, possibly as a hint to us to show who the real culprits are in what Billy is talking about in that picture? That sentence was supposedly supposed to read there - (666. Quetzal: that is correct.) with 666 being the number of the sentence there. Off the top of my head there were about 1000 - 2000 sentences i think. And from a quick look I've checked that none of those 666 Jesus figure questions/sentences were in any of those 1000 - 2000 sentences in this part of the contact notes. There is no other question/sentence in this part of the contact notes that that 666 could fit in and make sense in relation to the setup of 9/11/ivasion of Iraq/Bush's lies/ww3 as what I have pointed out there. So lets work it all out according to odds. 1 sentence in 2000 sentences 666 typing mistake could only fit in and make sense. And 1 typing mistake in 2000 sentences. 2000 questions times 2000 for the typing error gives a 1 in 400,000 chance of that happening. Of course the real odds of that happening would be far higher then that because who is to say that a typing error is going to be made every 2000 sentences/questions. So thats a 1 in 400,000 chance/coincedence of that possibly happening.

If that typing error was made in other another sentence/question in the contact notes over something trivial (everything else in contact notes is trivial in comparission to that sentence/question bacause that sentence/question there is only one that talks about the overview and cause of World war 3)

I'm not saying that is what happened there, I'm just saying that if I had to choose between the two which one I think happened there, I would definitely say that I believe that the plejarens somehow were involved in causing the nature of that typing mistake there. I don't buy that typing error as being a 1 in 400,000 chance/coincedence typing error as such, not when the question/sentence the error happens to be made in is in the most important (cause/overview of World War 3) that it is and in these times too, i don't buy it.

Anyway regardless of wether or not it was just a typing error there, that 666 is perfectly suited being there in that sentence/question, because of everything I just pointed out here.

If you read what Billy is saying there about what happened in 9/11 and how it could lead on to world war 3, does it not look like Quetzal is blaming it all on the 666's??
Is Quetzal blaming George Bush's 666's centered around him and his presidency or is Quetzal blaming the people who put Bush and his 666's there in U.S. presidency because they would be the people who had orchestrated all this and not the puppetman Bush??? The Freemason's.

Consolato,

This post is way too long, if you want a clear and definite answer to a specific question, ask in a clear way, and you will receive a straight answer. You have so many statements and ideas intertwined, that it becomes a labor just to read what you are attempting to say. Your questions must be clearly articulated because that is the condition for a clear answer.

Scott
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Consolato
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I am sorry Scott but I have a writing problem where i always forget to mention obvious things in my posts because i suffer from a bad case of a hypoglucemia/yeast intollerence problem. The effects i get from this illness is basically like fuzzy thinking, it like my mind is shrouded in a cloud of smoke, i can't/have so much trouble focusing on something, my mind is always jumping all over the place. I even mention this in a post of mine about 6 months ago too to see if it helps cut down some people saying silly things to me or treating me like a fool, but it did nothing. And i don't like to say this but because of this most people at the figu forum (who i repect) think/treat/consider i'm less intelligent then what i really am. I see it in certain posts and sometimes I noticed some people even treating me like as if I am dumb. I think that some people sometimes associate my bad writing as coming from someone who is not as intelligent as them because i can't write as good as them. This illness also plays the same problem when i am conmunicating and talking with people in real life, my mind just goes blank!! And when that happens i just sit there looking like a fool to people while they are waiting for me to finish saying what i was talking about. This is also why i always forget to say things in my posts too. It's hard for me to make sense all the time in what I am saying because so often the words that I want to use in my sentences just don't come and I am forced to used words that aren't suited that well with what I am saying sometimes in my posts. Even when I reread my posts before posting them I still am unable to see all my somantic and wording mistakes i make in them.This is sometimes the cause of why I sometimes find myself repeating things I have said in the same post in an attempt to better explain what I was trying to say. It also doesn't help that I am only 17 years old too, and the immaturity of my age can be seen in how I talk in my posts. It is not easy for me to comunicate to people, wether it be by talking or by writing. My mind always just goes continuosly blank and I forget what I was talking or writing about. :-(




December 2005, Phil638 said in post number 167 posted -

"I have this very yeast intollerence problem that both of you have, although I have a very bad case of this problems related effects as I'm not avoiding eating the foods that I'm supposed to be avoiding eating as well as I'm not on any vitamin pills too. This pyhsical illness is the cause of why I often make so many grammer, samantic and bad choice of wording mistakes in my sentences here at this forum. It's hard to find the correct choice of words to use in what your saying and trying to say in your post when your mind is like its shrouded in a cloud of smoke. It stops you from thinking clearly and so often you are lost for finding the correct words to use in your posts to get the right message of what you want to say accross to people. This is the problem why I appear to have a mental problem with how I construct my sentences too. Even when I reread my posts before posting them in, so often I am unable to see all of my samantic and construction of words mistakes that I make in them, only to realise or see them after they've been posted in to the forum. This problem also has the same effect on me wether I'm speaking to someone too."

http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/13/5656.html#POST16396
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Consolato
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and i am not joking about my age either because i posting this in 2005 in phil638 post number 189 -



"The other thing I forgot to say is directed to the Roman Catholic Church who would be closely monoriting all this discussion here, and that is -
1. I got all the information to conclude to myself that R.C.C is the beast on the net and not from this website.

2. I am only 16 years old, so sue me if you beasts like to try too."

http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/863/5625.html#POST16572
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Consolato
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Now that I have let everyone know now that I was phil638, I would like to say something to Newinitiation. Hi Newinitiation, i wanted to apologise to you for some of the things I said about you that weren't nice during that long heated arguement we (phil638) were both having 6 months ago here in this section over my belief that the best way to solve this worldwide government corruption problem was through violence, by rioting and with the torching of government buildings, because you were right there in what you were saying and not me. I didn't have a chance to apologise to you as phil638 because I forgot too before i had deleted my account as phil638 when i decided to stop posting. to show you my sincerity here please read what I said in my consolato post number 127 a couple of pages back from here when I let everyone know that I was phil638 -

"As some of you might have a clue, I am phil638, yes that idiot who was mouthing off and telling everyone that we should fix the worldwide governmental corrupt problem with violence and rioting and with the torching off government buildings, he was telling everyone that is best way and sure way to fix this problem. Then after mouthing off about it for so long and so loud, he then left after being proven wrong after someone had posted the question to billy and billy said that violence would be one of the worst ways to try to fix our worldwide governmental corrupt problem."

http://www.figu.org/cgi-local/forum/us/discus.cgi?pg=prev&topic=14&page=5775

I couldn't apologise to you as consolato because I didn't want anyone to know that i was phil638, and all I could do is post this here to you shortly after I started posting as consolato. Please read your 108 post on this page http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/863/4213.html#POST16783 - and this is what i posted to you there straight after your post as Consolato -

Consolato said:

"Junior, I tend to agree with everything Newinitiation had just said there too.

Well said Newinitiation."


I was also the one who had put that vote on your post too. It wasn't much and only posted that because of my conscious i guess is all. I'm just saying this now because you now know that I was phil638 is all. Yeah, so I apologise to you for some of the degrading things I saying about you as well as how I treated you during that two week long heated agruement we were both having there. I guess i blame that on my immaturity and my age.


Friends? :-)

Consolato
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Consolato
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I would also like to say that if this forum had a private message function that I wouldn't have had to post this somewhat private matter here to newiniation. I would have sent newiniation a private message and would had spared people the time of reading something which is somewhat of a private matter between two people. I also not complaining that the forum doesn't have a private message function either, there's nothing anyone can do about it if the forum doesn't have this function.
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Markc
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Hi Consolato ;

Hey I just thought I would rattle your cage a little because you seem like an easy guy to upset .

Just checking to see if you would flip your wig or something , 'cos you're that late late late show buddy .

If you want to get hateful , go ahead . I feel safe with you way over there in nut-land .

Mark , the anti-nut
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Consolato
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Scott, I'm sorry for all these posts but there is something I forgot to say before and I want to say it now because i don't want poeple to get the wrong idea about it and think that I am either a liar or a hypocrite over it. I posted something to Der_beobachter to show him that i do not have much of a image/ego problem. Then I posted something to newiniation saying that bit about how I changed names on the forum after billy proved me wrong with what i was saying about solving the government corruption problem with violence. I know the vast majority of people here would percieve/think I stopped posting as phil638 there because I have an image/ego problem and would say to themselves that i am either a hypocrite or a liar in contradicting myself in what i am saying there. I posted this (I don't mean anything by this but I suspect that this problem often makes me appear to others here as if I'm of lesser intelligence then what I really am and i notice people sometimes posting things to based on ther percieved intelligence of me) in my phil638 post where i was talking about my writing problem. It is bad enough that I sometimes suffer from people insulting my intelligence because of my writing problem, and then with billy proving me wrong over that stupid incedent with me mouthing off for so long that the best way to solve the government corruption problem through violence only made the problem that i already had worse. That is why I changed to a new name. I say this especially for el- brighto Der_beobachter to save him the embarrassment of me proving him wrong again in case he might have brought this up in one of his future posts as retalliation for me proving him wrong with his bush is antichrist crap and also with what i had said about him in my 3rd post back from this one.

p.s Der_beobachter, I have a IQ status of 115 but you wouldn't know it going by reading all my semi incoherant sentences i always post would you?
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MARKC said:

Hi Consolato ;

Hey I just thought I would rattle your cage a little because you seem like an easy guy to upset . Just checking to see if you would flip your wig or something , 'cos you're that late late late show buddy . If you want to get hateful , go ahead . I feel safe with you way over there in nut-land .
Mark , the anti-nut."


Hi mark, sorry your wrong, I am not an easy bloke that gets upset. I hardly ever get upset with people and about the only time I do ever get upset with people is when people degrade me or make fun of me because of my comunication problem. I also get upset when I am not treated on the same level as everyone else too. On the 15 th of Feb Der_beobachter started his posting his degrading posts about me that had to do with his incorrect assumption of me believing in a real antichrist because I was posting that Bush 666 chart from bushisantichrist website. On the 19th of Feb I started posting that Bush 666 chart with this underneath it -

http://www.bushisantichrist.com/
(george bush is not the antichrist, just using that bushisantichrist website as reference for Bush's astronomical association to the number 666 is all.)

I posted that chart like that 4 times since that one on the 19th of Feb. Der_beobachter didn't see it and is why he continued posting the same thing over and over again in all his posts right through from the 15th of Feb to the 24th of Feb. That wasn't much of a problem for me, the thing I ogt upset about is Der_beobachter saying all those degrading things about me in those posts. I posted some of those things he said in just one post. Would you like me to post all the other degrading things he said about me in all the other posts?? Der_beobachter didn't see that message I put under that bushisantichrist chart I posted four times since the 19th of Feb, but you surely must have seen it and noiced the mistake that der beobachter was saying about me because you posted this to me on the 21st of Feb -

Originally said by Markc addressed to Consolato -

"Pay attention here please . Dyson has already expalained it to you but you obviously did not read his entire post."

You surely must of known that Der_beobachter wasn't reading my entire posts (i was even saying numerous times that I was not saying that bush is the antichrist too), why didn't you help me out there like you had helped Dyson out there by informing Der_beobachter that he is not reading my entire posts???? Did you see what Der_beobachter's misunderstanding/mistake he was continuosly saying there caused me. It caused Dyson to think that I was saying that Bush is the antichrist too. But you did nothing to help me out their and it continued like that until the 23rd of Feb, and thats when I blew my top at the moderators for not helping me out by saying the obvious to Der_beobachter. Why wasn't I treated on the same level as everyone else is by the moderators and do you blame me for blowing my top like that when I had every right to do so??? And here you are saying that I am an easy guy to get upset??? Isn't it enough what you let happen to me and not treating me on the same level as you treat others, that you feel you gotta go and post degrading posts like you posted here to get back at me????

Please tell me why you think I am a nutcase?

Have you taken into consideration that I have a communication/writing problem and also that I am only 17 years old too and have the immaturity of a 17 year old too??? Mind if I ask how old are you??

You want to talk to me about spirituality and do you ant to talk to me about what you are doing degrading and riduculing me in this post of yours here when you of all people know about this -

Rules and "Netiquette:

"When writing your messages, please use the same courtesy that you would show when speaking face-to-face with someone. Flames, insults, and personal attacks will not be tolerated. It's fine to disagree strongly with opinions, ideas, and facts, but always with RESPECT for the other person."

I do not know why you are making fun of me here like you are, but would you like me to go on continuing talknig about what you are doing to me here in this post of yours???
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Dear consolato

I'll make it as simple as I can so that you don't fall by the wayside and not take my advice for what it is.

Firstly Con you're not going to like this but bare with me and listen with your heart, This world can be a very cruel place in which compassion, genuine understanding, empathy, sympathy, genuine love, humility, modesty and kindness are a rare feature drummed down by the brutal assault from the more prevalent inflated ego that punishes and lets out its claws to the more real and human side that we have.
Not one single person on this forum and elsewhere aren't immune to their own shortcomings lest they lack the courage to confront it, So given as a constructive criticism, I urge you to open your eyes to the bigger picture and stop hanging onto people's words as if your life depends on it, in the end it'll all shrivel into the obscure abyss of forever eternal past.
Learn your lesson where it warrants and take a breather, step back alittle.
Arduously learn from billy and others and devote yourself to the timeless wisdom filled teachings.
It matters little what your past forays and adventures as phil638 were nor of your indiscretions, all is forgiven if you in the end forgive yourself and what truly matters is for you to learn from your mistakes and not be so diverted by needing to prove yourself to anyone nor engage in childish act of protecting your ego.
Good luck to you in your quest to learn the spiritual teachings and in the end, to imbue and assimilate the vital lessons to your whole consciousness so that you may reach your goals in this very short material existence.

ps. in the profile section, you have your birth year as 1974 or was this a misprint?

everyone deserves the benefit of the doubt.

peace to you.
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Hi Con ;

It doesn't matter if someone shakes your cage , it's up to you if you fall out of it .

Don't pick a fight,and you won't have to lose one .

....

I agree with Newinitiation , and he is very kind to advise you :
"So given as a constructive criticism, I urge you to open your eyes to the bigger picture and stop hanging onto people's words as if your life depends on it, in the end it'll all shrivel into the obscure abyss of forever eternal past. "

OK ?

Now go out and have some fun , while you are still young .

As it is , Mark
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Hey Der_beobachter,

if you really want to constructively help me with what I've been putting forward here to do with 'Bush's 666' as well as the '666', then how about telling me how the 666 actually works to decieve people, instead of posting all that 666 stuff that I already know? I ask this because I haven't read anywhere yet which explains exactly how the 666 actually works to decieve people. If you could explain how it works within the framework of that Bush, 9/11, Iraq senario that I had posted before in my 133 post I would appreciate it -

http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/14/5775.html

Can you also explain how 666 actually works to decieve people in that 666 ficticious figure (Jesus, God, Church, ect) from 2000 years ago too. This is what I've been mainly trying to find/work out since I started this discussion here.
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Posted on Thursday, March 16, 2006 - 12:23 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello figu forum,

If I may suggest a note of advice to Consolato (something I rarely ever do). Perhaps, it could be wiser to find constructive ways to combat the lingering negative anti-logos situation without (as I see it) instigating a conversation that may end up spinning in circles WHEN ALL WE REALLY WANT TO ACCOMPLISH IS TO NEUTRALIZE THE NEGATIVITY THAT STILL LINGERS FROM THE BAFATH. And as hard as it is to drop an issue that we hold dear (which I am not asking you to do) although it could be an option on the table. The angle of the arguemnt and original intent seems lost, I think molding it into a constructive form instead of dwelling on a topic that has already been sufficiently and thoroughly explained by Gaiaguys, Jacob and other sincere persons sounds reasonable, but this is only my suggestion. So my advise to you is more of a constructive critisicm, but also to suggest that there are other ways to deal with the anti-logos.
The main method is raising the conciousness of oneself and through that example we "shine" or "resonate, harmonize, affect, change" those around us through our positive/neutral strong vibration. The same applies to the people who feed off of bringing people down as if feasting off of their misery thereby tricking themselves that holding a subjugating position over someone/people is somehow empowering. In reality it is very weakening as it causes a chain reaction so to speak. Conversely, the exact "butterfly effect" or "resonance" occurs when a person or group takes advandage of the opportunity to help someone out through an example of his/her knowlege for the root PURPSOSE OF HELPING EACHOTHER GROW which clearly is a situation where everyone benefits.
Additionally, when someone tries to persuade another of his/her known facts, when already the issue has been thoroughly and recently examined, why then should that person even bother to continue? Perhaps the problem cannot be fixed in this forum, or perhaps it can, just through smaller, more precise adjustments to our viewpoint. If you're with me thus far then that's good. I suggest re-examining our viewpoints on issues like anti-logos and what it means to even debate the issue. Is it really beneficial to argue a construct that has already been clearly described on good terms and even more importantly does this even help one iota to combat the lingering affects from the influence from (i'll call it) excess negativity? The peace meditation is a wonderful tool to reverse the negative energy bell that ensues this planet currently. And George, Steve some others and myself are meeting in Chicago this week for the peace meditation and German studies. Slowly but surely our perspectives will neutralize the lingering effects of everything that is represented and exemplified by the anti-logos, thus, one by one, meditation by meditation the process unfolds.

In all sincerity,
Peace Be.
Tim
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If you measure the size of your ego relative to the volume of your knowlege you must never forget that your ego is infinitely larger. Salome
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George
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Posted on Thursday, March 16, 2006 - 11:01 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Consolato; maybe a good question here would be why do you need all this information? Or what is the purpose for of this communicational technique that you're using?

Salome

George.
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Markc
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Posted on Thursday, March 16, 2006 - 11:53 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Tim , Consolato ;

Sometimes one of these threads gets out of hand , considering that we are all disconnected by space and real ,present company . Who would go on and on about something uninterrupted ? Not in a real conversation ,in real time , that's for sure .

Tim's careful analysis of "what we have here and what to do with it" , really says it all . If we are to take what we know of to help our planet and it's people , it really does start with us , putting an end tom pettiness .

So Consolato , please accept my apology if you were so insulted by my words .

If you would consider for a moment , that I am just another person , who can't give you a look to show you that I think you're going too far ,and so after some time on this forum I have tried some concepts to try to reach someone with this typewriter ....oh , it's absurd , because you can't express yourself with it , can you ? So , I'm laughing at something that someone has written , because we are all some stages of tragedy and comedy , i think ;I'll be a catalyst for change ....say something toward the "wild card " , and it's really only a nudge to let someone know what I'm thinking .
A defamation can only occur when all are in knowledge of the identity of the person . And we really don't, with many people , so you really are as anonymous as you want to be .
I prefer not to be , because in the end your reputation and what you stand for are back to back , one is the other side of the coin for the other . For good or bad . Maybe that's not for everyone .

In any case ,we all swim together in this river , so be aware that we are glad that you care to learn about it , and that at times you seem to add something good .

And now , I have to reveal that I can't remember what it was that you were so worried about ... please don't remind me .

It's a volatile subject ; war . Maybe in it's own unavoidable context , we can't help be be caught in it's rage sometimes , even when we are trying to stop it .

In relative peace , Mark
Mark Campbell
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Sonik_01
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Posted on Friday, March 17, 2006 - 04:10 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi guys I've been following this thread for a while, and I feel it has TOTALLY gotten out of hand. This squabbling about the 666 has gone on for almost a month and a half. All meaningful conversation has ceased a long long time ago. 666 is a SYMBOL, nothing more. No one person is a 666 or a certain country or a certain thing. It is only SYMBOLIC of the illogic and uncertainty of this world's humanity. Nothing more. I see no point in dedicating pages and pages and pages and pages to this to this simple topic. I feel very frustrated that all meaningful conversation has ceased, and we should get back to analysing the possible world events or current situations that could possibly bring about this prophesized catastrophe or prevent it from happenning. Please let's stop all squabbling about the 666. It's only a symbol, not worth more than a few sentances. That's all it is.

Hi Sonik,

I understand your frustration. I have held back numerous post related to this area, to let things die down a bit.

Regards
Scott
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Sonik_01
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Posted on Friday, March 17, 2006 - 04:26 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

All this talk about the 666 should be in the 'Spiritual Teachings' -> 'Numbers and Symbols' area, not here. Sorry, but it's true.

Hi Sonik,

Yes, in some sense you are right, it does relate to numerology, but because of the significance of this number and the times we are living in, it does have some relevance in other topic areas.

Regards
Scott
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Pudd
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Posted on Friday, March 17, 2006 - 08:32 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Salome all member's and a comment on Consolato's posting's and behavior.Con could be involved in an attempt to knowingly cause havoc and disrupt the discussion's of the forum.I hope this isn't so however after many weeks this question awakens.I would like to see the forum start to really focus on the henoch and it's relation to 2006 as Quetzal mentions clearly this could be the fullfillment year of the henoch.The dull bulk of humanity is still stuck in the age of belief's.The government's in power of the world are unified still in it's deception of the truth and continue to reverse engineer E.T. craft and profit tremendously from the sale of these technologies.The law's of creation have been ignored for far to long and so cause and effect will become more prominent.Meier was never concerned for his life,his concern's were simply to have global peace,love,freedom,and wisdom around the entire planet.Of course Petale being the ultimate goal.Salome & harmony to my fellow member's.Pudd
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Sonik_01
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Posted on Friday, March 17, 2006 - 10:26 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks, Scott

Sorry for the rant! I just needed to get it out of my system! Sorry!
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Sonik_01
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Posted on Saturday, March 18, 2006 - 08:03 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Pudd I agree with you but I didn't want to say anything about it though. I didn't have the guts to say it but I thought about it many many times. Anyways, about the world's governments, you can't force the truth on anyone. It is applicable even for the world's governments. The truth can't be forced on them especially if they know it already. There is nothing really that we can do except to practice the peace meditation. Any other form of trying to bring about change is in itself an act of war like Billy said (ie - demonstrations). If these people in power can't accept the truth for themselves, it is their loss, not yours. Any person who ignores the truth is destined to fail of his/her own accord. These things happen all the time. In our case it would involve the destruction of our planet, and much chaos, but in the end, if the Akashic Belt on this planet is destroyed, we will reincarnate on on another planet some time in the future with no memory of any of this. It would be very, very extremly unfortunate but it would be something we'd have to accept if it happened. Creation would continue and our spirit form would always reach the Petale level. The only thing that matters is what we learn in life in order to evolve and what we do and how we live. The entire 99% of the world's population is in the dark about the extent or how far the situation has actually deteriorated spiritually for Earth humanity and they can't be forced into the truth either. The only thing we have to do is practice the Peace Meditation and evolve our spirit. I just recently saw a video of Billy's and I was amazed by the personality of Billy. What an example for us! Very caaring, compassionate and tranquil. This is what we have to try to do - To be better people so that we can inspire others around us to be more loving, compassionate and caring.

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