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Rarena
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Post Number: 44
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 05, 2006 - 07:01 am: | 
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The truth is...
We do not need a world war. Prophecy is not prediction. We can meditate on peace using the peace meditation or we can get rid of all the nice people in the US. Mmmmm.
How many folks do you hate in the US that you know? I mean actually know, not just media hype and political puppets? Well, there are thousands that I know, and they are just like you. They have families, they have children, they have dreams... and you want to kill that? Well, that is the same kind of behavoir that is behind all the wars and that has been 97% of human history.
We are all in the same boat. Earth.
If some of us were decendents and reincarnations of Phaeton or Malona (the planet that blew up) then there is a lot of meditation to do.
By being for some and against others, or by including some and excluding others, like Vestri's comment above... (which is sectararian and against the laws of Creation) then we will continue to blow ourselves up again and again until we learn. Get a clue folks.
Kind of like ground hog day with Bill Murray.
Living in the USA has been good for the last few hundred years, it is only until recently that the international consortium of companies and countries who depend on oil have realised free energy would put a lot of people out of business.
It is not the people that are to blame, many of them are really fine upstanding people who truly want to help others less fortunate and bring peace to our world. The way to do this is through education.
War is Stupid. Focus on that rather than escalation of war. What you focus on grows, it has to, that is the law of cause and effect. Keep focusing on all the bad aspects of anything and it will be bad in your eyes.
Wouldn't it be nice, if your government or the people of the world would revere and respect each other?
Billy said that is the thing he misses the most with his Plejaren contacts. The genuine respect and humanity of these people who have been at peace for tens of thousands of years.
We can't blame others or be offended by what we perceive conditions to be...we have to stand up for what we know and educate those of lower consciousness about love, which is peace.
Tschüs... Love to all...
rarena ô¿ô
Saalome gam naan ben uurda, gan njjber asaala hesporoona.
Peace be on Earth, and among all beings. |
Hector
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Post Number: 73
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 05, 2006 - 08:23 am: |
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All that Scalar weapons debate is not very healthy.We`re discussing about something that is not accepted by scientist and population as an already existing developed science/weapon.Even Billy does not speak of concept "scalar".Billy says nuclear weapons and many more will be present in WWW3,but he does not give more details.
I personally think scalar can be at the very beginning of its development,and no weapons have been built from it up to date.Much lies and propaganda will be spread about scalar by the militar/political system.Same story as UFOs.
What we have to discuss is the future use/destiny of scalar engineering and hinder possible misuses of that technology.I can imagine scalar tech benefits, such as inducing rain in desert areas.
And remember,with nuclear bombs alone we can destroy this planet 50 times.We don`t need any "new" scalar weapons to destroy it another 50 times more 
We crossed the barrier/frontier long ago.It is not our mission to "disclose" or to discover new secret weapons.That belongs to KGB,CIA.It is our mission to classify and apply new technologies acording to creational laws,and be aware of the results by using them.
When Einstein and Co. discovered how to fuse an atom they new they had opened pandora`s box.Progress cannot be stopped.What can be stopped is human mind stupidity. |
Jo_jo
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Post Number: 144
Registered: 04-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 05, 2006 - 10:07 am: |
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Matt,
Putin strikes me as a person to be taken seriously. I have no reason to doubt that he has said what you attribute to him; however, I fail to see how a “space cruise missile” amounts to a scalar weapon. Fitting the evidence to the case again?
If Billy has said it once, he’s said it a thousand times…a prophecy is not a prediction…a prophecy can be changed. That’s the whole reason for announcing prophecies, so people can change their thinking and actions to avert catastrophe. Unless you have had REAL visions of the future, or time traveled into the future and witnessed America burning, then what you are doing by INSISTING America will burn is irrationally spreading hate and fear.
I know America has done some awful deeds to this world and needs to make retribution. The time may soon be coming for the first step to happen. If Americans will vote the Republicans out of office in Congress this November, and put the other party in power, they will have a chance for the legal system to take its course by removing Bush from office. He can’t be impeached without the other party in the majority. That’s the only logical solution we have.
P.S.: Do not take the above as a political statement. I favor no party over the other. |
Jo_jo
Member
Post Number: 145
Registered: 04-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 05, 2006 - 10:18 am: |
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Hector,
I agree that the debate about scalar weapons is not healthy, but a fight for the truth is. I will end my side of the debate if, and when, the other side retracts their position and apologizes to everyone on the forum for spreading their irrational hate and fear. |
Jo_jo
Member
Post Number: 146
Registered: 04-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 05, 2006 - 09:35 am: |
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Dyson,
I don’t think you will find any rational person that finds it “self-evident” that your pictures are of scalar manipulation of the skies. What makes you say it’s scalar? Because Bearden does? HOW DO YOU KNOW? Dyson, my eyes are open, and I see very clearly. What I see is a picture of paranoid delusion. That’s a mental disease, and it’s contagious. Please stop spreading it around. |
Tony
Member
Post Number: 31
Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 05, 2006 - 11:15 am: |
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Hector: "All that Scalar weapons debate is not very healthy."
Rarena: "The truth is...We do not need a world war. Prophecy is not prediction. We can meditate on peace using the peace meditation"
This is the Third World War section, is it not? These talks are supposed to be talks about what some of the implications and possibilities are of what could happen to particular nations of the world if WW3 happens, are they not? What were you two expecting to hear about in this section, meditation and lots of healthy stuff?
Hector: "We`re discussing about something that is not accepted by scientist and population as an already existing developed science/weapon. I personally think scalar can be at the very beginning of its development,and no weapons have been built from it up to date.Much lies and propaganda will be spread about scalar by the militar/political system."
Hector, what reasonable explanation can you provide for what could have caused all those strange cloud patterns in all those pictures? What could have caused the canberra firestorm -lightning strikes?? What could have caused what happened in the picture of the animated .gif radar composite weather map of central North America on the bottom of this page? http://www.gaiaguys.net/meierv8p447-8.htm
Rarena: "How many folks do you hate in the US that you know? I mean actually know, not just media hype and political puppets? Well, there are thousands that I know, and they are just like you. They have families, they have children, they have dreams... and you want to kill that? By being for some and against others, or by including some and excluding others, like Vestri's comment above..."
Rarena, who here is glad to see American civilian people get killed, Vestri? Did you read what Vestri said 3 pages back from here where he got all that from, instead of just looking at what he said in some parts of what he is quoting himself on above? He said "When I say good riddings to the U.S.A. if WW3 happens, I am referring to me being glad to see the evil U.S. government and military going down and not to the U.S. people." |
Jo_jo
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Post Number: 147
Registered: 04-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 05, 2006 - 01:26 pm: |
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Rarena,
Your thoughtful words contain much logic, and I agree with your desire for world-wide peace. I’m only commenting here because I’m curious why you say the suppression of “free-energy” is behind the world’s current problems. Aren’t the top causes sectarian beliefs and overpopulation, with sectarian beliefs feeding the overpopulation problem? If the earth’s population didn’t exceed its naturally sustaining level of 511 million, and sectarian beliefs were eradicated, would there still be resource hoarding wars?
Regarding “free-energy”, Billy says in Contact 251, at the time of the threatening WW4 … three scientists will generate an incredibly inexpensive energy source, although this will not be the only new form of energy, for another will be found as well, that is based on sound vibrations. Incredibly inexpensive is not quite free. And there will always be the cost of the device(s) needed to extract the energy and/or deliver it to its point of use.
Furthermore, in a Q&A from Jukdo on Tuesday, June 15, 2004, Billy replies to the question “Is hydrogen technology a feesable solution to eventually shut down nuclear power plants?”
… The following energy sources/methods are positive for our future:
solar energy
geothermal energy
wind energy
tidal energy
and (much) later:
electron energy
sub-atomar energies etc
energy drawn from Black Holes
From this I deduce that “free-energy” is not yet available. |
Kiril
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Post Number: 94
Registered: 12-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, July 06, 2006 - 12:00 am: |
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Jo_jo:
I will not answer your most recent post to me, other then to say thanks for the well wishes.
One little note however : Peer Review is a government institution(since they fund the majority of research at universities or research labs, where the majority of the papers come from) - It is an institution of OFFICIAL science(one that does not accept heretics or there ideas), that is to say, it treats science as a 'closed system'(if you wanted examples of this, feel free to contact me) -- THEREFORE it is anything BUT, independent of judgement, that is, free from bias - especially when it concerns ideas that have no previously accepted precedent. The utility of such a system should be recognized, at best, as limited.
One final note before I make an exit from this dialogue: If you want to fight for the truth: the type of truth that serves life, with ideas that one will hold ones life to - STOP THIS NON-SENSE - or rather, what has become so!
Take as premise only the desire to KNOW(FIRST, with certainty) and speak(second) the truth - it is not your role or responsibility, rationally speaking, to convince and teach others who disagree(irrationally so) or who do not care to know(or are evasive). If you know the truth, let it be known and understood, Nature will do the arguing and 'fighting' for you - as I say, it is(or should be) the ultimate standard-of-judgment for everything(that includes ideas).
(Please do not take the following as an insult of your intelligence, I make no such assumptions.)
AND to be frank with you Jo jo, but in no way inflammatory, you have done just the opposite - 1. You have(or had) NO idea what the subject matter your discussing entails(scalar theory & Peer Review(to a lesser extent)), yet you claim they are all wrong(I hate to be cliche, but - the absence of evidence(or published results) is not the evidence of absence) & 2. You've persisted on hammering the claims of others, and will continue(by your own admission), well past establishing your point of view. |
Hector
Member
Post Number: 75
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, July 06, 2006 - 02:22 am: |
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Ok,we have Bearden`s studies,we have a few strange photos,we have some russian conspiracy theories about scalar(weapons,not medical devices),and finaly we have Billy who says i dunno.
I wonder..is that ENOUGH?
This case is very similar to UFO cases.It could be 80% an invention and 20% truth.
I can state that global warming,greenhouse effect and climate changes are occurring right now.I see and feel that theres something wrong with the weather.Many so-called "scientists",politicians and corporations want to keep that under secrecy,or deny it.To what extent,in your opinion,are scalar weapons responsible for today`s climate changes? Was hurricane Katrina an induced disaster? Was Katrina the first attempt to use scalar as a WMD? Who were the first victims of this experimentation? Should we all from now on live in panic? What has the CIA to say,keep the secrecy?
Too many questions,too little answers.Billy`s silence aligns to my theory...there is no real danger NOW.That does not mean that TOMORROW we all can suffer scalar tech consequences.
Ok.We all saw the images of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.We are aware of nuclear infinite capabilities of destruction.Cmon,Hiroshima WAS PRIMARILY A NUCLEAR TEST,not an act of war/retaliation.There was no need to drop Nagasaki`s second bomb.
What about scalar.Has there been a preliminary test? Where are/will be the victims?Because ANY weapon needs calibration and be tested to be effective.That f***ing Saddam Hussein "used " 500 kurds for chemical weapon testing.At first it was ultimate secrecy but in the end it became public.
Resuming,i want to say that scalar technology may be ready.Scalar weapons,NOT YET.I`m not defending Jo_Jo
Like predictions and prophecies,there`s no use in spreading fear and chaos among the population. |
Jo_jo
Member
Post Number: 155
Registered: 04-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, July 06, 2006 - 12:24 pm: |
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Kiril,
You may have misunderstood me. You have not made any irresponsible or outlandish claims about scalar weapons that will burn the US, and I have no bone to pick with you.
I am aware of how peer-review is sometimes used by the scientific community to protect established fiefdoms. James McCanney, M.S. Physics, of the plasma discharge comet model, has talked about that for years. He was once in the club, then out, and now his theories are being co-opted due to corroborating data from experiments like the Deep Impact probe colliding with Comet Tempel 1. That may also be the case some day with scalar and free-energy research.
You call scalar research frontier leading knowledge. It may very well be. But if 10 nations, including many rogue ones, already possess scalar weapons technology and have used it shoot down the Challenger Space Shuttle, melt steel in the WTC towers causing their collapse, started fires in Canberra, AU, enhanced the devastation of Hurricane Katrina, etc, etc, (not your claim), then it would follow that scalar weapons technology is established science fact, and there should be peer-reviewed literature available, as with nuclear, chemical, biological and electron weapons.
Kiril, I don’t mean to put words in your mouth, but don’t you think the claims being made about scalar weapons are both dangerous and irresponsible? What sort of benefit is derived by letting them go unchallenged? That the fear-mongers have their way? |
Jo_jo
Member
Post Number: 156
Registered: 04-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, July 06, 2006 - 12:43 pm: |
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Kiril,
One final note. Yes, nature, through people’s actions, will take care of clarifying the truth over time. But it just won’t happen overnight. Look at the case with Jmmanuel. 2,000 years later and Billy is here in the flesh still trying to get the correct teachings known. And apparently he won’t have complete success for another 800 years. |
Kiril
Member
Post Number: 95
Registered: 12-2005
| | Posted on Friday, July 07, 2006 - 02:16 am: |
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Jojo,
I think you have misunderstood me; I'm not a gunslinger
I'm calling into question the manner of the challenge - its utility and effectiveness therein. That matters of fraud and deception be challenged goes without saying. I suggest that your manner, in the course of the challenge, is no less destructive to our perception of THE REAL then are the actions and ideas of those who seek to disfigure it (refer to my postNo.94 for the reasons why).
A good example of this (malformed/insufficient arguments) is your paragraph 3(postNo.155): Do you really mean to assume that all mans discoveries are carried out and received in the public domain? - Considering the state of Peer Review and Official Science, that all these discoveries are published in their magazines and journals? GET REAL! - And that goes for the majority of your other arguments. That is not to say that those presented by the proponents(of this forum) of scalar weapons are any better(they forget that we are dealing with science, science that does not tolerate opinions and convictions as a means of progress), those who love to 'paddle', but that fighting nonsense with nonsense gets you no where! If you read back through this dialogue you will find that the majority of your arguments are a priori - that is, resting on reason alone, without recourse to experience and facts - that is, rationalistic.
"One final note. Yes, nature, through people’s actions, will take care of clarifying the truth over time. But it just won’t happen overnight”. First, being alive necessitates action (and growth/evolution). Success means actions and ideas (in the case of man) that are in accord with The Real - its ( not referring to an entity) denial always leads to a slow and tortuous death(or a quick one, depending on the given the case) . That is what I mean when I say that nature will do the arguing and fighting for you. Second, I'm not rushing: just as a hen will die, by laying eggs too big and too fast, man commits him self to the same fate when he is not patient and conscientious in the formation of his ideas and actions.
Jojo, I have only gone to these lengths because I feel you are an intelligent individual(early 20's like me?) - and that you have made an honest mistake. For those reasons I hope you will consider my my arguments, carefully.
Regards,
Kiril, OUT |
Rarena
Member
Post Number: 45
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Friday, July 07, 2006 - 07:53 am: |
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Dear Jo-Jo et. all (and all),
You're right, overpopulation, sectarian beliefs and "beliefs" in general are behind many of the worlds problems. The next war... number three, if there is one, will be about oil, so free energy or at least clean energy plays a part by opposing those who want to stagnate our technology due to the fact that there are a trillion barrel$$$z of oil in the ground for "profit", there's money to be made.
Yeah, money runs the world, but we have to live and let live. We have to share.
The fortunate thing is... we have Billy Meier and others in this and other forums who are astute enough to realize we are not perfect and need improvement in many areas, myself included.
For those petrified about the prospects of a future war...
It is terrifying to imagine the prospect of death, as in World War 3, but that's what reincarnation is all about... Godfather death.
Creation works exactly as it should and this should make us feel better. By following some simple rules, we can live forever. Every life is a chance to get one level closer. It is also a chance to move one level away. By losing our lower animal parts, the parts that require more, and "what's in it for me" and look more towards ways to help each other, and "how may I help you" the closer we get to everlasting life.
When we reach Arahat Athersata, and WE ALL WILL, maybe not at the same time, but sometime, we will never reincarnate again, never enter "carne" or meat again, therefore, everlasting life. The downside is no body and the physical pleasures associated with it. But, apparently higher consciousness is aparently definitely more pleasurable.
The consciousness block does not occur in Arahat Athersata, so you remember everything about your future everlasting life. Apparently the memory is either stored in the Akashic record of your planet, in our case (Sol) and another "entity" entitled storage banks and these conditions decide the attributes of the next reincarnation.
Like gravity doesn't need any help, the Creation doesn't need any help deciding the attributes of our next incarnation. It's going to happen, and we have a choice: live by the laws of Creation or not. By not following the creative laws... we are inviting suffering and pain and war deviating from the path. It is your decision, your free will.
Think about Billy and his exemplary behavior when dealing with opposition and enemies. In other words, if World War 3 is really coming, and lets meditate peace that it doesn’t, we have this future life of Arahat Athersata to look forward to... Billy has... with absolute certainty... guaranteed our journey to Arahat Athersata, for well being and your inner peace.
This is reality, sometimes the most important things are not visible, try living without oxygen or love for any amount of time...
Tschüs... Love to all...
rarena ô¿ô
Saalome gam naan ben uurda, gan njjber asaala hesporoona.
Peace be on Earth, and among all beings. |
Jo_jo
Member
Post Number: 162
Registered: 04-2003
| | Posted on Friday, July 07, 2006 - 06:19 pm: |
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Kiril,
I didn’t call you a gunslinger, and if implied, I apologize.
I suffer no delusions of ever changing anyone’s mind. And you’re correct that I’ve persisted on hammering the claims of others well past establishing my point of view. I don’t enjoy that. But with regards to the fear-mongers, I felt someone needed to counterbalance their side. Yes, it’s not my role or responsibility to convince and teach others who disagree or do not care to know. I didn’t do it for them. I did it to show another possibility to anyone viewing this forum that might be suggestible or negatively influenced/swayed by the fear-mongers. Again, not my responsibility, and no one should believe me. They need to figure things out for themselves. I just tried to provide another data point.
In a prior post I said by those that know me only through this forum, I will be known by my words. Kiril, you have clearly read my words. My arguments against the validity of scalar weapons are necessarily rationalistic. I don't have the background. Very few people in this world could make a factual argument for or against them. You may be one of those individuals. So, of course I can’t prove my case. I’m not trying to win anything, just throwing up some probabilistic doubt, regrettably in a somewhat clumsy and ham-fisted fashion. I knew I’d have to get dirty.
Regarding clarifying truth over time, I should clarify my position. Yes, nature will take care of clarifying the truth over time. On a broader scale that is self-evident. Creation will perfect itself. That goal was finalized at the time of its creation. However, on Earth, in the here-in-now, though that potential is still here, its fulfillment is not self-evident. We presently stand a chance to annihilate ourselves and our planet. Apparently that’s happened before in this solar system (Malona/Phaeton & Mars). And that may happen again if certain people with the wrong ideas go unchecked. I think we’ve had a taste of that on this forum. It’s like Bush and his bit about repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda.
Audio file: http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/multimedia/bushism_propaganda.mp3
That might be okay if the truth is the truth. But this forum has pretty liberal standards in what it accepts (not a knock on you Scott – you have an impossible job) considering it’s the FIGU/Billy Meier website. Regrettably people in the past have appropriated this site and used it as a bully pulpit from which to pass off as authoritative a cornucopia of “conspiracy theories”. Many of these ideas don’t align with the FIGU’s and Billy’s understandings, but short of censoring them, the FIGU and Billy appear to tacitly endorse them. Just venting my opinion.
Kiril, you require a very high level of proof in the case of an argument. I respect you for that and hope we can all strive towards that standard in the future. Maybe I’ll be wiser too and just ask of the dubious ones the question that only someone with the facts and experience on his side can answer: HOW DO YOU KNOW?
Take care. |
Alan
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Post Number: 6
Registered: 06-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, July 09, 2006 - 01:28 am: |
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I know that the Plejarens won't stop us from having WW3 if thats what we choose. What I liked to know is if WW3 does happen, in what ways will the Plejarens help us after WW3 happens. Reduce radiation and polution problems, food, disease, ect? |
Cpl
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Post Number: 138
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, July 09, 2006 - 08:45 am: |
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If they are not about to prevent the applecart from being tipped over I doubt they'll help pick up the apples. That's the applecart owner's responsibility
Best,
cpl |
Tony
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Post Number: 36
Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, July 09, 2006 - 10:46 pm: |
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Jo_jo: "Dyson, I don’t think you will find any rational person that finds it “self-evident” that your pictures are of scalar manipulation of the skies. What makes you say it’s scalar? Because Bearden does? HOW DO YOU KNOW? Dyson, my eyes are open, and I see very clearly. What I see is a picture of paranoid delusion. That’s a mental disease, and it’s contagious. Please stop spreading it around."
Jo_jo, I think that you were wrong for accusing dyson of being a paranoid delusion for saying that he believes that countries (russia) have Scalar (electromagnetic) weapons which can alter the weather climate and start fires. Do you also believe that Secretary of Defense William Cohen is a paranoid delusion too? From Gaiaguysnet website -
Secretary of Defense William Cohen at an April 1997 counterterrorism conference:
"Others [terrorists] are engaging even in an eco-type of terrorism whereby they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes, volcanoes remotely through the use of ELECTROMAGNETIC waves… So there are plenty of ingenious minds out there that are at work finding ways in which they can wreak terror upon other nations…IT'S REAL, and that's the reason why we have to intensify our [counterterrorism] efforts. So there are plenty of ingenious minds out there that are at work finding ways in which they can wreak terror upon other nations. IT'S REAL, and that's the reason why we have to intensify our efforts, and that's why this is so important. "
http://www.gaiaguys.net/meierv8p447-8.htm
Jo_jo, do you also believe that Secretary of Defense William Cohen is a paranoid delusion like Dyson too? It appears to me that you haven't researched anything on this Scalar issue. I think you are the one who is irrational instead of Dyson as you said there. You also appear to be in denial too just as Dyson said to you before. I think that Dyson has provided more then adaquete material and proof to back up his translation and interpretation of what Ptaah was talking about and referring to in Contact 329 was correct.
I also believe that we owe it to Dyson for what he is doing there with the translations too, for helping not only Figu out (unofficially) but more importantly helping the english speaking world out too with the translations. He is not only translating the contact notes, but he is also giving his opinion of what he believes their interpretation mean or are referring to too. Figu also trusts Dyson competence and capability too or else figu wouldn't have allowed him to do it. Dyson is a great help to us at this momment of time and I thank him greatly for what he is doing, not only for translating the contact notes, but for everything he is doing at his gaiaguysnet website. They (Dyson and Vivienne) are risking their lives by speaking the truth out and they don't have the protection of the Plejarens like Billy has. They are on their own and theres also nothing in it for them too. |
Jo_jo
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Post Number: 167
Registered: 04-2003
| | Posted on Monday, July 10, 2006 - 10:36 am: |
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When looked at in its fuller context, it’s hard to tell if Cohen is commenting about actual weapons or the scare of weapons rumored to be under development. Sounds very speculative. My opinion is that you’re trying to fit the evidence to the case. Good try. Keep up your fear-mongering. Let’s see where that gets you and the rest of us. If you're really concerned about our welfare, isn't your time and efforts better spent working to get the criminals that would support such weapons out of office?
A reporter asks a question based on the fake anthrax letters that had recently been sent to B'nai Brith. Cohen gives a strange answer, using the occasion to mention the exotic weapons being developed by terrorists (as well as--one would assume--governments).
Here's the exchange, taken verbatim from the transcript posted on the Defense Department's Website:
Q: Let me ask you specifically about last week's scare here in Washington, and what we might have learned from how prepared we are to deal with that (inaudible), at B'nai Brith.
A: Well, it points out the nature of the threat. It turned out to be a false threat under the circumstances. But as we've learned in the intelligence community, we had something called -- and we have James Woolsey here to perhaps even address this question about phantom moles. The mere fear that there is a mole within an agency can set off a chain reaction and a hunt for that particular mole which can paralyze the agency for weeks and months and years even, in a search. The same thing is true about just the false scare of a threat of using some kind of a chemical weapon or a biological one. There are some reports, for example, that some countries have been trying to construct something like an Ebola Virus, and that would be a very dangerous phenomenon, to say the least. Alvin Toeffler has written about this in terms of some scientists in their laboratories trying to devise certain types of pathogens that would be ethnic specific so that they could just eliminate certain ethnic groups and races; and others are designing some sort of engineering, some sort of insects that can destroy specific crops. Others are engaging even in an eco- type of terrorism whereby they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes, volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic waves.
So there are plenty of ingenious minds out there that are at work finding ways in which they can wreak terror upon other nations. It's real, and that's the reason why we have to intensify our efforts, and that's why this is so important. |
Tony
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Post Number: 38
Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 11, 2006 - 09:53 pm: |
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Jo_jo, what are those pictures of those strange cloud formations caused by???
Don't tell me that you don't know because that is no answer, tell me what they are caused by. |
Hector
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Post Number: 79
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Friday, July 14, 2006 - 08:28 am: |
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It`s really a shame what is happening with the Israeli bombarding of Lebanon.They were waiting for a perfect excuse ( 2 soldiers kidnapped) to begin their attack to the palestinians al-agsha martyrs and lebanese hizbollah.
The thing is that Israel is destroying civil infrastructure such as airports,buildings and roads.
And the U.N portraits itself as what it is:a pantomime. |
George
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Post Number: 100
Registered: 03-2003
| | Posted on Friday, July 14, 2006 - 12:21 pm: |
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Jo Jo I tend to agree with you that this discussion is off balance and is bringing too much fear, bordering on delusion and is focusing all members of this forum on something that should not be a real concern - like the other guy who used to be talking about the imminent threat to Earth from the Vampires etc…That is an effect of dwelling and spending too much time on Establishment’s disinformation material coming from so called reputable sources that a lot of us are falling for every now and then. They are Great dark Masters of this art of Disinformation. So I think common sense advice here would be to spend more time on our already established reputable material from Billy&Plejaren friends. We have to learn to read Billie’s material between the lines or spend more time thinking about it. If we do that then we can properly discern that a Scalar Scare or Vampire Threat is really not much of the concern for us and we can quickly refocus and we have not wasted our time catching paranoia&delusion disinformation ‘virus’. So how would you know that Scalar stuff is ‘garbage stuff’ not requiring our attention? Well if you’ve spent some time reading Wendell’s Semjase contact notes volume I you would know that there is Ptaah’s Great Spacer parked in the proximity of our Solar System inhabited by almost 150,000 expert Plejaren minds hand picked for the continuing mission of watching/monitoring over us 24/7. They know and knew about Scalar and other threats to Earth before we were born. That’s one of the reasons they’re here. According to the latest info from Asket contact notes they’re not about to quit and leave jeopardizing the mission they started 50 years ago. They will most certainly see that continuing mission ending and carrying forward in a complete success that’s their only job they’ve got and they’re quite dedicated to it. This is employing just simple logic and common sense and little thinking process. I’ve just did Fermilab public tour of Proton&AntiProton smasher collider facility employing 4000 best physicist’s from all over the world. Collider is working nonstop 24/7 also physicist’s teams are working around the clock 24/7 continuously analyzing all the data. There is a Collider Operations control room it has about 12 people on 3 shifts. They are completing 140,000 systems checks every hour nonstop. Are you telling me that Plejarens are not doing something like that with their technology surpassing ours by 8000 years? So read that last sentence between the lines and spend some time thinking about it – In Ordnung.SalomeGeorge. |
Psycloud
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Post Number: 11
Registered: 06-2006
| | Posted on Friday, July 14, 2006 - 03:09 pm: |
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So What do you think in regards to this new israeli conflict with Lebanon as compared to what we have learned from Billy about future conflicts and wars, it is strange it seems to fit, I would love to hear what everyone else thinks about this.
Thanks and Salome
I am truthful to the extend at which I know the truth.
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Eric_drouin
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Post Number: 132
Registered: 05-2004
| | Posted on Friday, July 14, 2006 - 08:58 pm: |
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Hi Hector, Psycloud:
Yes indeed, this conflict fits prophecies as we approach november 2006. This is real now. You should not be surprised, we were told by Billy and Quetzal that humans had to be more logic, and take appropriate actions so that prophecies will not get fulfilled.
People elected criminals, and support retaliation and military actions (in Israel, 78% support current actions).
So it will probably degenerate in an armed conflict. US is saying that Iran and Syria are responsibe, they will carry out their plans for attack that they prepared since 2001,
(5 years of specified prepaparations per contact 251...).
Read this:
http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=9301
Yes the UN is a totally ridiculous organization, they are even not condemning Israel...
Shame, shame, shame.. How cowards and shabby are our leaders...
Eric |
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