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    Christian Moderator Post Number: 124 Registered: 02-2000 |
Hi Rita, you are referring to the excerpt from my article at: www.figu.org/us/overpopulation/parenthood.htm. What I wanted to show with my recommendations was, and is, that a couple, and especially a woman, is thinking and using reason BEFORE she gets pregnant, because a child has the right to be born from among a loving couple and not to be a "product" of a mistake, mishap, rush of emotions, lack of thought, etc. It is the child who will suffer all his or her life if the mother (and father) have not fulfilled their duty of acting responsibly. It is important to state that it is the mother of the child-to-be who is responsible to make the decision about having an abortion (except if the mother-to-be is still a child). Neither a doctor nor a preacher/priest nor the parents nor any other person have the right to interfere. The pregnant woman has to decide what is best for the child and what is responsible behaviour, and she has to bear full responsibility for her decision. Matter of fact is that each case must be dealt with individually. While your points 1) to 4) can be enough reason for an abortion, there may be individual factors which could change a decision from abortion to birth. My answer regarding point 5 is NO. There are several statements in my recommendations that are not reason enough for having an abortion. For examle: If a women gets pregnant at the age of 25, instead of after 28, as I recommend, that surely cannot be enough reason for an abortion. In closing I would like to give the following information to all mothers, and especially to the young women who are not yet mother: Do know that each human being has the right to know who is his or her biological father. Those of you who are planning to use artificial insemination or are hopping from one bed to the other should keep this in mind. In our times of DNA testing there could come a time when your son or daughter will want to know the details of origin, and they have the right to know. | ||
Klausmaus Member Post Number: 14 Registered: 07-2006 |
Ritak, It looks like you're reaching for a dangerous oversimplification or absolution from guilt. Whatever happened to the concept of personal responsibility? | ||
Melli Member Post Number: 169 Registered: 06-2005 |
I was reading post # 38 by Jacob from 26-2-04, in which he is explaining the issue of over-population to Michael and I still can't understand some things: I quote: 'why are there so many people who are idiots of half idiots or backwards..?' "it lays in the fact that the earth is massively over populated which result in a un-natural and forced incarnation cycle, in which Spiritforms who are still busy to process their knowledge are forced by the collective consciousness to incarnate into a body in which they don't really belong. This result in people with troubled lives, with their sexual identities mixed up, drug problems, a lot of physocological illnesses....Over population is responsible for degenaration of the genetical quality of humans in general.....vulnerability to illnesses, cancers, genetic mutations in many forms, brain damage,etc..." My question is this: Why is the collective consciousness forcing spirits to incarnate? I thought the spirit is completely free to decide for itself? Why is the spirit forced to incarnate knowing it will be terminated or hindered in some form and because it is born too soon "its evolution will be halted since its body cannot fulfill its task of evolution"? Therefore would I be right to say that in such cases these spirits will have a much harder task to achieve progress because their path to evolution is already undermined? Could a spirit choose to skip its next incarnation and wait for a better opportunity, helping itself and in turn helping the whole of earth's evolutive process too? And if this is the case wouldn't it not be acceptable by the collective consciousness to benefit Creation as a whole? | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 925 Registered: 12-1999 |
Melli, As I understand it, it is based on the law of attraction. When a Fetus is created it will attract a spirit to enliven it and give it life. The spirit does not have a consciousness in which it makes decisions, it is a completely unconscious process based on Creational law. Yes, you are correct the "New Personality" will have many problems because the Comprehensive Consciousness Block has not processed all the information from the former existence. This will result in the spirit not being able to develop at a normal rate. The spirit does not have the ability to make choices in the sense of choosing to skip a life etc......If I remember, there is a degree of compatibility between the body and the spirit. If the brain is not developed enough, the spirit may not be able to utilize the brain to it's fullest potential based on the evolution of the spirit form...therefore I think it could be said a spirit could be "forced" into a body that it is not truly "destined" for. It must also be said that the evolution of "matter" must somewhat coincide with the level of spirits "using" it... I'm sure there is much more to this, but you can see the problems of overpopulation have many far reaching damaging effects to conscious evolution of our spirit forms. Regards Scott | ||
Edward Member Post Number: 673 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi Scott and Melli.. Scott, very well put! I would agree with you to all the points! To make it short: CREATION is just "TOO OVERLOADED" by Earth Man's Overpopulation! Creation can just NOT handle the Natural 'Chaos' Man has Generated and Created. A Natural Chaos...that did not have to come to pass, in such a Deluded and Insane manner. Thanks to Religious Non-Sense, WE have become THE ILLNESS....WITHIN... CREATION, alas. All do, to MAN NOT living in accordance to: TRUE CREATIONAL LAWS. Like they say: "For Every Jar...There Is A Lid." But in this case(Creation Overloaded - Overpopulation): For Every Jar...Attains The WRONG...Lid! Edward. | ||
Norm Member Post Number: 1043 Registered: 02-2000 |
Its funny how in the USA. George Bush wants to keep the borders open he fought bitterly for the Democrat/Neocon version of what they call Comprehensive Immigration Reform which effectively grants amnesty to every illegal immigrant in the United States. Plus will allow 100 million new immigrants to come to the United States in the next 40 years. Of course there is no money to pay for this. Only after much pressure was George Bush forced to sign a bill that would provide for the building of a fence barrier on a portion of the border between Mexico and the United States. Of course word now comes that they never intended to even find it. And the current incoming Democrats are going to kill it. It is very strange that border security in this age of "global terror" is not the first priority for the United States government. It's painfully obvious to me that there is no terrorist threat at the magnitude that the media conveys on the nightly news. Otherwise there would be true border security and port security. George Bush's Republican Party took a beating on election Day. The news media is trying to convince the American people the reason the Republicans lost was in part because of their stance on border security and illegal immigration. The truth of the matter is the top candidates for border security were reelected and all statewide measures preventing illegal immigrants from getting free benefits passed with 50% of Hispanics voting for the measures. What is truly the odd part is the Republican Party could easily win everywhere if they chose to run on border security and enforcing current immigration laws. Now comes word that the Republican National Committee will elect open borders advocate Mel Martínez as chairman for the Republican national committee. It is painfully obvious to me how the agenda is being set by the Bush & Neocon cronies and their masters Skull and Bones and the CIA world agenda. If they really wanted to solve the problem of Mexico's poor they would close the borders and force reforms on the third richest country in the Americas Mexico. Instead of letting Mexico's elite push their overpopulation flow northward while at the same time throwing Guatemalans & other South Americans in jail for crossing their border. The Mexican elite continue to enrich themselves while the poor go hungry and struggle for survival. My Website | ||
Jakes Member Post Number: 15 Registered: 10-2006 |
What is truly the odd part is the Republican Party could easily win everywhere if they chose to run on border security and enforcing current immigration laws. Hello Norm, I think the #1 reason they lost was sentiment against the war. The blue collar American is anti-immigration but his employer needs a continuing supply of cheap labor to stay competitive globally and keep the economy expanding. This is generalizing, but the Republicans are soft on immigration because they're greedy; the Dems do it out of false humanitarianism (the George Lakoff strict father - nurturing father paradigm). | ||
Norm Member Post Number: 1055 Registered: 02-2000 |
After reading the latest translation from FIGU Special Bulletin 31 by Dyson I was shocked to read this! "Weiter unterschreibt dieser völlig verantwortungslose Sektierer ein Dokument, demgemäss an der mexikanischen Grenze ein weit über 1000 Kilometer langer Zaun errichtet wird, wozu die Mauer der Israelis gegen Palästina sowie die Mauer der ehemaligen DDR gegen West-Deutschland den USA als verbrecherisches Vorbild dient, um unerwünschte mexikanische Wirtschaftsflüchtlinge davon abzuhalten, in die USA zu gelangen. Further, this completely irresponsible sectarian signs a document to the effect that a fence, well over 1000 kilometers long, will be erected on the Mexican border in order to hold back the unwanted Mexican economic refugees from reaching the USA and for which the Israelis' wall against Palestine, as well as the former East Germany's wall against West Germany, serve as criminal models for the USA." Well I must say this statement has me spinning. Ptaah has not done thorough research in this area. George Bush did not want a fence across the Mexican border. He favors open borders. He was forced to sign fence bill because of public outcry about how porous our borders are in the so-called age of terror. As I posted previously, the plan all along was never to fund the fence. George Bush favors open borders so that corporations can pay slave wages to illegal aliens. Plus G. Bush is helping create the North American Union which is a secret plan to merge the USA Mexico & Canada into a European style Union in which the U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights is eliminated. It sounds like Ptaah is getting his news from the major networks because he apparently hasn't done thorough research in this area. To top it off comparing the East German Wall which was to keep people in, to a wall keeping invading people out makes no sense! I will quote Billy Meier himself from A CRUSADE AGAINST OVER POPULATION, "The migration issue alone leads to even more excessive, vicious, worldwide problems. For example, refugees do not simply leave their familiar homesteads merely to seek new ones within their own country. Instead, they flee to foreign lands and often to countries that are financially and economically more prosperous than their own homelands. So it transpires that thousands, tens of thousands, indeed hundreds of thousands, even millions of refugees abruptly flee their homelands and swarm into foreign, more prosperous nations. In turn, these nations become swamped with foreigners, causing almost insurmountable problems. Countries that accept these refugees are forced to expend billions of dollars that are paid for by the "host nation’s" industrious inhabitants through hard-earned funds from horrendous taxes. The refugees from nations where ethnic problems, wars, bloodshed, various types of persecution and murder prevail, swarm like locusts into the more prosperous countries and settle there, frequently through their lies and criminal activities. These people generate an escalating glut of foreigners within the world’s prosperous nations, into which they often can enter only as illegal aliens. The surplus of foreigners, consisting of the refugees, brings renewed social, economic, political as well as religious or ethnic problems. Slowly but surely, the social structure within these nations begins to collapse. Living and housing expenses climb higher and higher, and the lack of housing increases. All evidence pertaining to the refugee problem clearly demonstrates that the flood of refugees and their illegal entry must be rigorously curtailed. If this does not occur, the problems of too many aliens, refugees and the asylum-seeking homeless, along with the generated hatred of strangers, hatred towards other races and the asylum-seekers, become uncontrollable and subsequently lead to unpreventable catastrophes I've spent the last 8 years fighting this crap and now Ptaah does a 180 on us. Is it because Bush did it, or because there's a change in policy by the Plejarens. Now it's time for open borders worldwide. There was a poll in Mexico that said three quarters of their population would move to the United States if it was possible. I can imagine what it would be like in China or India if a poll was taken there as well. The whole world can't fit in to the USA. Again I reiterate too Ptaah GEORGE BUSH WAS AGAINST THE BORDER FENCE!!! Ptaah needs to sit down with Billy before he make such an uneducated statement! My Website | ||
Memo00 Member Post Number: 274 Registered: 03-2004 |
hi Norm how do you know that G. W. Bush was against the fence? do you know him personally? ´cause contrary to us, they (the Plejaren) can look at him "from above" and even read "his mind" personally i can only watch the news, read what others write and guess, but i never know for sure what politicians really have in their heads ............ anyway Ptaah isnt saying that borders should be open, but the fence isn´t the solution, with time you will see . . . also i live in México and definitely saying that 3 quarters of the mexican population want to move to the USA is completely ridiculous and even if it is as you wrote: Ptaah didnt said Bush wanted the fence he just said that G.W.B. would sign the document and thats all i dont see why are you so angry take care | ||
Klausmaus Member Post Number: 33 Registered: 07-2006 |
Dear Mr. Norm, Why would you blame Mr. Ptaah or Mr. Billy for the inconsistency? Look at who made the translation instead. Who is more fallible? | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 1012 Registered: 12-1999 |
Klausmaus, Every time you post you intentionally have a negative comment directed to Dyson...whats is your problem?? Are you so jealous and seeking attention you will do anything to cast doubt on someone else, to boost up your own ego? I don't see you making any positive contributions to anything on this forum except more negative rhetoric and picking away at others. You are like the small barking dog that keeps nipping at the heels of the mailman...Bow Wow Scott | ||
Norm Member Post Number: 1056 Registered: 02-2000 |
Memo, All Bush's actions prove otherwise! Read the immigration bill he tried to pass but it failed because of peoples out cry. So they set up a fence bill to shut everyone up but had no plans to fund it. I stand corrected on my numbers. More than 40 percent of Mexican adults say they would move to the U.S. if they could, and 1 in 5 say they would do so illegally if necessary, according to surveys released yesterday by the Pew Hispanic Center. Surveys of 1,200 Mexican adults in February and 1,200 in May, conducted in their homes, show that Mexicans' rising education levels have not weakened the desire to live and work in this country. More than a third of Mexican college graduates say they would come to the U.S. if they could, and more than 1 in 8 would do so even if they had to enter the country illegally, according to the surveys, the first of their kind. "Contrary to what people might expect, the inclination to migrate isn't contained among Mexicans who are poor or poorly educated or with limited economic prospects," says Roberto Suro, director of the Pew Hispanic Center, a nonpartisan research group in Washington. "They're distributed across the whole breadth of Mexican society." Mexicans' willingness to come is driven by a desire to improve their economic status and join friends and family already there, Suro says. Despite improvements in the Mexican economy, "people with college degrees believe they have greater economic opportunities by migration to the U.S. - even illegally - than they would staying at home," Suro says. Mexicans are coming from richer, urban areas as well as poor, rural regions, he says. More than half of Mexicans say they would be inclined to come if the U.S. established a temporary worker program. USA TODAY | August 18, 2005} But 40% is still huge! My Website | ||
Norm Member Post Number: 1057 Registered: 02-2000 |
I would like to add that I feel Ptaah has made a blanket statement when it came to that quote on Bush & the Fence. It rings of an anti-Bush bias & not the reading of Bush's mind. The evidence is overwhelming that Bush wants open borders his whole agenda has been for it. Bush is going to open the doors even more now that the Democrats are in power & to quote Billy their " False Humanitarianism" will be the reason. Ptaah may be an ET Ishwish but he's not all perfect Creation! Unless Ptaah comes forward with evidence to the contrary. I will stick with my above statement. PS the USA already has the most liberal legal Immigration policy in the world. My Website | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 343 Registered: 07-2005 |
G'day Norm Norm, this is just my take on what Ptaah meant in this passage------- "Weiter unterschreibt dieser v?lig verantwortungslose Sektierer ein Dokument, demgem?s an der mexikanischen Grenze ein weit über 1000 Kilometer langer Zaun errichtet wird, wozu die Mauer der Israelis gegen Pal?tina sowie die Mauer der ehemaligen DDR gegen West-Deutschland den USA als verbrecherisches Vorbild dient, um unerwünschte mexikanische Wirtschaftsflüchtlinge davon abzuhalten, in die USA zu gelangen. Further, this completely irresponsible sectarian signs a document to the effect that a fence, well over 1000 kilometers long, will be erected on the Mexican border in order to hold back the unwanted Mexican economic refugees from reaching the USA and for which the Israelis' wall against Palestine, as well as the former East Germany's wall against West Germany, serve as criminal models for the USA." Ptaah is matter of factly stating that Bush has signed the document but nowhere does he indicate that Bush is actually the sole determinant conspirator. In another words, politics as you know has so many players which orbits the institution of the presidency that are inextricable intertwined in a symbiotic interdependent relationship, so in effect, the president is not the sole decider of any policy or it's implementation therefore I think it's a mistake to misinterpret the basis of Ptaah's statement as if he hasn't taken into consideration the factors which you have brought up that is the underlying reasons for your accusation levelled at him. Maybe if you ask Billy in the next round of questions what exactly was Ptaah's intentions and the meaning of his statement given, you may get a better understanding but in the mean time, although Billy and the plejarens encourage people to challenge, question and think about what they've said, I just think it's too premature to jump to any conclusions. Facts will speak for itself in the ensuing months as it will inevitably change our perceptions which warrants the re-evaluation of our decision made at the time, it cannot be otherwise, not even with the brightest of minds, there is always factors omitted which may have needed consideration. Cheers Matt | ||
Hector Member Post Number: 163 Registered: 04-2006 |
I agree with memo00 that an electrified fence is not the solution.The USA, being the most advanced, educated and mightiest country in the world could find better solutions for this immigration flow than just copying berlin`s wall solution. Hey, even the chinese built a wall around their country x years ago.Could they hold back the mongols or other invaders? Turned the chinese wall to be effective? What conclusion did we learn from the cold war and the berlin wall? The mere idea of building a wall between two countries that have not declared war on each other is repugnant in this 21st century.... Immigration flow can only be fought in its origin, that is Mexico, by trying to raise the living standard with good and effective policies.This takes a long time, but if no measures are taken, the rich-poor gap increases and the situation gets even worse.Measures are to be taken here and now. Bush favoring open borders would mean he is showing his true criminal face; that is he would be importing cheap slaves to suit the needs of american economy.There cannot be 1st class americans and 3rd class americans.To open borders means immigrants will never be americans, but cheap workers with a permission to raise employment in the USA.But i think Bush is just a hypocrite because open borders also means cultural "infection", and he knows american values would be "infected" by letting tex-mex, latin and the spanish language spread from the south.This moron even suffered when diverse artist sung the national anthem in spanish.So this moron in chief wants the immigrants to "destroy" part of the anglo-american cultural heritage? On the other hand, french-canadian culture is welcomed.And to top it all, we have this crusade against muslims and islamofascists.(Their cultural heritage is poisonous too, and is the origin of today`s clash of civilizations).And the moron in chief wants to open borders.... Most liberal inmigration policy? WTF? What are the facts arguing such " most liberal immigration policy in the world"? The USA deny political asylum or refugees condition to people coming from Iraq, when they are responsible for creating that humanitarian disaster.This is the kind of crappy gobernment, presided by a monkey/donkey, that U.S citizens allowed to seize power.Do you think green cards/passports are given to anyone? P.S. Imagine 100 hundred cuban refugees arriving daily to the coast of Florida.This already happens in my hometown, so i`m quite concerned about illegal immigration. http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/05/15/news/spain.php And remember, according to Meier, we all are descendants of Sirius immigrants/refugees (aging gene,contact 249,creator overlords). Regards, Peace be with/upon you. | ||
Klausmaus Member Post Number: 34 Registered: 07-2006 |
And Mr. Scott, you are like the starving man that eats the rancid meat put before him on the table. Take off your speculation-colored glasses and see your protectorate objectively. Have you ever counted up all the wrong-headed speculation theories he endorses on his website or the number of errors in translation and interpretation for which he is responsible? Mr. Christian only allows the "authorized" unofficial translations because: 1.) he can't do anything to stop it 2.) he is still living in the disco days of the 70's when the sensational/controversial attenion was thought to be good because it attracted new people to the case. Some day you may come to a better realization and will make your amends. In the meanwhile, you are guilty of unbridled favoritism. Main Entry: fa·vor·it·ism Function: noun 1 : the showing of special favor : PARTIALITY 2 : the state or fact of being a favorite | ||
Peter_brodowski Member Post Number: 250 Registered: 01-2004 |
hey memo00, "´cause contrary to us, they (the Plejaren) can look at him "from above" and even read "his mind" " actually, according to one of billy's latest answers to one of my questions, the plejarens can not do that because it is against their directives (or whatever the specific term used happend to be) to read peoples thoughts. so perhaps we can conclude that all opinions from the plejarens about earth people and their intentions is based purely on observation (visualy)and so obviously they will state something that does'nt correspond to the entire truth of the matter. that's just something that popped into my head, not sure what merit it has with the discussion your having with norm, but something to consider none the less, which if you think about it... gives a very reasonable explination as to why a plejaren might be seen as a liar in this instance or that instance. | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 346 Registered: 07-2005 |
Klausmaus, which part of gaiaguys factual statements are you labelling it 'rancid meat' may I ask? How many wrong headed speculation, as you called them, have you supposedly counted, care to be a bit more specific? and while you are at it can you provide evidence to the contrary and not just your hyped up theory? Have you been pilloried by the backlash of your own misdeeds which Dyson had justly uncovered? Are you among the degenerate perpetrators of the crimes which gaiaguy's are rallying to expose the truth of? What is the basis of your deep hatred against people like Dyson when you can clearly discern for yourself the noble intentions that they work so tirelessly for a better future for all humanity? Why are people like you, so blinded by their own rage and sense of self importance to not know better than to turn their backs on their own conscience to heed it's calling? Who are you and what is your intention of being here? They aren't literal questions I am expecting any answers for Klausmaus but for you to reflect upon, not as a brainless animal but as a conscientious, open minded, informed, objective, rational, logical and observant person. And what of your fatuous false indignation, when the cause is simply your own false attribution, I will not speak for Scott for I am not capable because I am not Scott but what I can vouch for is that what to you is favouritism shown, for us FIGU folks, it's about supporting the truth along with the people that are for it, that's all. Matt, If there is a response from Klausmaus, I will move these posts including mine into the skeptics corner area. Regards Scott | ||
Jakes Member Post Number: 38 Registered: 10-2006 |
Mexico is essentially a failed state. The leaders have abdicated responsibility to provide for a stable economy that can meet the needs of its citizens. It cannot be America's responsibility to solve their economic problems, just like it's not China's responsibility to solve America's debt problems. How much worse must it get before the use of lethal force in defending the borders is ethically justified? Post signs all along the border, drop leaflets and inform the Mexican government that anyone trying to illegally enter the US will be shot on site, no questions asked. And then do it. Word will spread pretty fast, and people will begin to modify their behavior. And I bet the people of America would line up to volunteer for such duty and pay their own bills. But of course, this is not what the big-money people in the US want, so it will never happen. | ||
Markc Member Post Number: 408 Registered: 06-2000 |
Hi Klaus Mouse ; To the north of you ! Mark Mark Campbell | ||
Tony Member Post Number: 113 Registered: 01-2006 |
Klausmaus wrote: "And Mr. Scott, you are like the starving man that eats the rancid meat put before him on the table. Take off your speculation-colored glasses and see your protectorate objectively. Have you ever counted up all the wrong-headed speculation theories he endorses on his website or the number of errors in translation and interpretation for which he is responsible?...............Some day you may come to a better realization and will make your amends. In the meanwhile, you are guilty of unbridled favoritism. Main Entry: fa·vor·it·ism Function: noun 1 : the showing of special favor : PARTIALITY 2 : the state or fact of being a favorite" Klausmaus, Scott's not or has been favouritising Dyson, because if he was, he wouldn't be allowing all your stupid negative posts aim at Dyson and his website to go through, would he?? Gee you talk some real crap Klausmaus! And lets not forget the biggest piece of crap you came up with which was the one about lots of people at this forum being jew-haters!! To moderators - Klausmaus doesn't care about any topic or discussion that is being discussed anywhere on this forum. All he cares about and is interested in is to try to make dyson (gaiaguysnet) look like he is not a good or capable translator of the Meier material. Gaiaguysnet Meier translations are presently the best source around for Meier english translations, so I fail to see what the reason and motive could be behind why Klausmaus is only interested in bringing Gaiaguysnet translations down, other then reason being a pyschological one. Perhaps Klausmaus can tell us of a better translator person who has read all of Billys german spirit books and also most of his ufo material too (like Dyson), who is presently doing Meier english translations of the Mieier material, and who is better at doing it then Gaiaguysnet?? Or why doesn't Klausmaus offer some of his own translations of the Meier material? Looking back at nearly all of Klausmaus's past posts he posted here so far, prove that he is not only just interested in tarnishing Gaiaguysnet reputation as a good source for Meier english translations, but also only interested in trying to put Dyson/Gaiaguysnet down in general too. Anything negative will ONLY do! I feel this is simply unfair on Dyson, because most of what Klausmaus points out or picks on is either overexaggerated trivial crap or just wrong. I hate seeing the idea of someone being here at this forum who is only interested in bringing one particular person down. Seeing that being down at any type of forum stinks, but seeing it being done at a spirituality forum really stinks and wrong too, especially when most of it is overexaggerated trivial stuff or crap. I would like to see the Moderators not post any of Klausmaus's future posts that are negatively directed at Dyson or at his website. I think Dyson's put up with Klausmaus's crap long enough as it is, and I think he deserves a break (some mod help) from this Klausmaus (???case?) who likes to single people out and pick just negative stuff on them. | ||
Edward Member Post Number: 705 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi Norm.... If my memory serves me well: the Plejarans did once say, we on Earth...should be "Border FREE"(any way One looks at it); just like any other worlds that are populated...within Creation; the same applies. If the possibility is there: The Planet should be "Border FREE"! THINK of Creational FREEDOM! NO ONE...can CLAIM, or for what ever reason.., a piece of land via Fencing it in, and thus..NOT Border it! BORDERS are created...by Selfish Human Behavior! And thus, is NOT the solution. Thus, "Fortifying" a piece of land, or country, IS NOT...the Answer/Solution! Than, the Fortified mentioned would only Fence itself in, and be it's OWN Prisoner! And whereby, FREEDOM to/for all other outsiders(and even within) are kept from them. "Where there is Fencing....there is NO FREEDOM!" Edward. | ||
Memo00 Member Post Number: 276 Registered: 03-2004 |
Jakes to kill somebody is not solution for anything the most clear proof of this is capital punishment which is something very old that never has finished the stealing, murders, etc. (in fact it promotes crime, ´cause anyone who kills a man is a criminal) life is sacred, killing for economic reasons is something incredibly stupid you should think about what you wrote, and reason there is difference between thinking and doing something, but basically both are part of the same thing its like we say here: "es tan culpable el que mata a la vaca como el que le agarra la pata" "it is equally guilty the one who kills the cow than the one who grasps the paw" with your thoughts you support those who murder to obtain what they want and in that way you become a criminal yourself which crime is worse: to go to another country to work? or killing that person for doing that? (i´m not telling the borders shouldn´t be controlled) take care (and think about it!!!) |
