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Vestri Member
Post Number: 56 Registered: 02-2006
| Posted on Friday, October 13, 2006 - 06:36 pm: |
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Klausmaus "For contextual reference, remember, Mr. Gaigaguys is a self-described believer of the false doctrine the Protocols of Zion, a rabidly anti-Semitic fabrication. This is a fact." Klausmaus, this supposed false document of the Protocols of Zion outlined a plan for them (who are jewish/israeli people) to get majority ownership and control of worldwide mainstream media outlets, banks, government positions, ect. If this Zion document was supossedly false as you state that it is, then can you explain why the majority of these worldwide organisations (media, banks) are today owned by jewish people? Also which group of people do you think that Semjase is probably reffering to below, Jewish/Israeli people or the Jewish/Israeli Zionist people? 106. Their distant descendents now, today's Israelis, respectively their responsible ones and their myrmidons can - like the U.S.A. - commit the worst crimes pitilessly and unhindered and with their secret services and military, right before the eyes of the world at large, and even with their approval. 107. Not only that the secret service and military have criminal elements and trustworthy friends in many nations of Earth, who they, as ever, simply brutally and bloodthirstily butcher as needed and to reach their goals, no, they also have - again like the USA - through their intrigues, also understood how to make the appropriate friends in the governments, the economic concerns and banks, and so forth, or even creep into these themselves, so that their power has already grown to the degree that this cannot be grasped and perceived by Earth humans any more. http://www.gaiaguys.net/meierv2p406-410,v4p55-58,98-101.htm I wouldn't know for sure who semjase is referring to there, but my opinionis that it is most likely the Jewish/Israeli Zionist people. Klausmaus, can you also explain why nearly all european and western world media outlets reported the same wrong and biased one sided view about the Israel/Lebanon war, as Skynews channel does in that interview in tonys post above? Who is the instigator, and at fault, and murderers in the war between Israel and Lebanon? Is it Lebanon like all the western world media says, or is it Israel, like British MP George Galloway says in that Skynews interview? Wasn't there something mentioned in the contact notes (by a Plejaren) that stated that Israel must give back the land that doesn't belong to it?? Markc "Klausmaus , you need to think more and respond less . Your sensitivity of the situation is exactly the problem worldwide , because people are too quick to defend anything said about Israel" Klausmaus, out of Israel and Lebanon, who did all the needless attacking (and murdering) into another nations territory and who was forced to defend its own territory?? Yes, poor good little innocent Israel and BAD BAD Lebanon, as what nearly all the world's media outlets have been saying! Klausmaus, am I being racist here with any of this regarding Israel, or am I just talking about the events/facts of the situation? Christian "And since there exist close connections between the USA and Israel, many Jews (as well as Christians) must be held responsible for the bad situation the world is in today. To accuse those persons of being war-mongers etc. is NO racism at all." |
   
Junior Member
Post Number: 117 Registered: 12-2004
| Posted on Saturday, October 14, 2006 - 03:27 am: |
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Dear Rarena, Regarding your above post number 82 “It is my note to stick up for Dyson and Vivienne who are dedicated to providing translation and interpretation of the Billy Meier material written in Swiss/German.”, please see an excerpt of my post number 80 on the below link… http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/863/6098.html#POST20559 Excerpt: Swiss/German is only a spoken language, in Switzerland the German speaking Cantons(Regions) have a Swiss dialect but they would write and read in German also known as (High German), in all places such as educational institutions, politics etc. … So from the above one can conclude that the language used in the contact notes were high German because it wouldn’t be correct to write the notes in a Swiss/German dialect, as I said because it only a spoken language. Regards, jr Peace to all, and one Love Junior
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Alan Member
Post Number: 68 Registered: 06-2006
| Posted on Friday, October 13, 2006 - 08:59 pm: |
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Vestri - "Klausmaus, out of Israel and Lebanon, who did all the needless attacking (and murdering) into another nations territory and who was forced to defend its own territory?? Yes, poor good little innocent Israel and BAD BAD Lebanon, as what nearly all the world's media outlets have been saying!" the question must be asked what would cause all european and western world media outlets to deliberately report such rubbish about the true nature of the events that took place in the israel/lebanon war, as well as cause them to plainly falsely report who was in the right and wrong, and also who was being the real evil there too? Was all the european and western world media outlets deliberate LIES/FALSE news reports on the Israel/Lebanon war, a practical application of the Protocols of Zion? |
   
Markc Member
Post Number: 387 Registered: 06-2000
| Posted on Friday, October 13, 2006 - 10:36 pm: |
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I was going to address maus's accusations and arguments , but instead I will suggest everyone to respect his dissatisfaction and leave him be . I really don't have the time to get drawn into the personal black hole of emotion that such people create for themselves . More attention to it does nothing good . Not for me ! Mark Campbell
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Spaceman Member
Post Number: 94 Registered: 06-2006
| Posted on Saturday, October 14, 2006 - 01:39 am: |
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Vestri, You say in your post, "And since there exist close connections between the USA and Israel, many Jews (as well as Christians) must be held responsible for the bad situation the world is in today", I would say that the current situation in the Earth was not caused by Israelis alone, why then do the Plejarans say anything about anyone, if they do say things about the Jews (people of Israel, be it Zionist or whoever), they should have mentioned other people as well. What they say makes it look as though the Hebraons are a separate group of people. Now, Dyson said that there are strident remarks that would 'burn' people and hasn't said what these remarks are yet. |
   
Vestri Member
Post Number: 57 Registered: 02-2006
| Posted on Saturday, October 14, 2006 - 08:21 pm: |
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Spaceman Vestri, You say in your post, "And since there exist close connections between the USA and Israel, many Jews (as well as Christians) must be held responsible for the bad situation the world is in today" Spaceman, I didn't say that, Christian said that at the end of his lengthy post on the previous page. I will further add that since most of the worlds media is owned or run by Jewish people, and with USA and Israel being closely connected as Christian says, the Israel/Jewish people in control of most of the worlds media, helped the USA coverup its true role in the 911 attacks, and also has been continually helping the USA promote its war on terror to the world, so the jews in power/control of the worlds media are responisible for significantly helping to lead the world to the bad situation it is in today. You also have all the Jews in control of the world banks too, which are probably helping to push this along too. That is my understanding of what Christian may have been referring to there. |
   
Spaceman Member
Post Number: 95 Registered: 06-2006
| Posted on Sunday, October 15, 2006 - 08:18 am: |
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Ok so, Did Jews even start Vietnam? What, are we saying about Jews inciting wars, even the Americans (not necessarily Jew related) and all people of the Earth have made wars. |
   
Vestri Member
Post Number: 58 Registered: 02-2006
| Posted on Sunday, October 15, 2006 - 06:26 pm: |
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Spaceman, at the end of my last post I meant to say "That is my understanding of what Christian may have also been referring to there." I am of course just speculating there, and he may not have meant that at all. Spaceman "Ok so, Did Jews even start Vietnam? What, are we saying about Jews inciting wars, even the Americans (not necessarily Jew related) and all people of the Earth have made wars." This is interesting and something to consider about the Jews starting wars and also about the validity of the protocols of zion too, because that document was made well before this time happened. The Wisdom of Henry Ford "Rosika Schwimmer, one of the leaders of the Peace Ship project, was a Jewish diplomat and pacifist who, according to Ford, was more intelligent than all of the others aboard the ship put together. She tells the story of her first meeting with Ford, where he said "I know who started this war - the German-Jewish bankers." As he slapped some papers hidden in pocket of his coat, he said, "I have the evidence here - facts! I can't give them out yet because I haven't got them all. I'll have them soon!" "In an interview with a New York Times reporter on Christmas, 1921, Ford gave some further insight into his education in the ways of the world while he was on the Peace Ship. "It was the Jews themselves who convinced me of the direct relationship between the international Jew and war. In fact, they went out of their way to convince me. On the peace ship were two very prominent Jews. We had not been at sea 200 miles before they began telling me of the power of the Jewish race, of how they controlled the world through their control of gold, and that the Jew and no one but the Jew could end the war. I was reluctant to believe it but they went into detail to convince me of the means by which the Jews controlled the war, how they had the money, how they had cornered all the basic materials needed to fight the war and all that, and they talked so long and so well that they convinced me. They said, and they believed, that the Jews started the war, that they would continue it as long as they wished, and that until the Jew stopped the war it could not be stopped. I was so disgusted I would have liked to turn the ship back." A Book for All Americans "Ford had become convinced that there was an organized, dangerous, largely secret, and incredibly powerful menace to America, almost completely Jewish at its highest levels, and he was determined to do something about it. He earnestly believed that if this menace was exposed to the light of day, that responsible and moral Jews would cast out this cancerous group from their midst. He was honestly surprised by the abuse he received from most of his Jewish friends and business associates after his educational work had begun, and we may be amazed by the fact that a few remained cordial. Henry Ford believed that if the kept press would not tell the truth on what he termed the Jewish Question, they it was his duty to his God and his country to do it himself." "He purchased what was at the time a small weekly newspaper in his home town in Michigan, The Dearborn Independent, and turned into his national voice, with nationwide distribution. His espousal of traditional values combined with a practical populism struck a chord with many Americans, for soon the sleepy weekly had turned into an influential giant, with a circulation at one point of nearly half a million. Ford lost money on the paper, selling it for five cents per copy or one dollar a year. When Jewish censorship kept it off the newsstands in some cities, he made it available through the local Ford agencies. He neither solicited nor accepted advertising - he would not have the paper subject to Jewish or any outside influence. The masthead meant what it said - Independent." "He gathered around him some of the most talented writers and researchers in the business, virtually cleaning out the editorial staff of the largest newspaper in the state, the Detroit News. He hired the best private investigators. He employed the services of patriotic Congressmen and diplomats. He despatched his agents to foreign countries to dig up the facts." http://www.natvan.com/american-dissident-voices/adv092593.html |
   
Spaceman Member
Post Number: 96 Registered: 06-2006
| Posted on Monday, October 16, 2006 - 05:58 am: |
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Vestri Spaceman, at the end of my last post I meant to say "That is my understanding of what Christian may have also been referring to there." Ok Vestri, What is your personal opinion about the Jews, do you think they are the ones who are the cause of almost all the wars in the earth? To Dyson, you have not yet told me about the Plejaran quotes that I had asked about in previous posts, which you thought would 'burn' people. |
   
Alan Member
Post Number: 69 Registered: 06-2006
| Posted on Monday, October 16, 2006 - 06:06 am: |
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so, because the bafath knew that the media and banking industry would eneviatably be the main industry which could be used to control the world, the bafath choose the jewish race for its high criminal nature to control the world for them, and transmit telepathic impulses into the leaders/elders on how to do it (media, banks, ect) which made the leaders/elders of israel draw up this plan/document on how to did it, which became the protocols of zion? And this was all in the 18th century? I read that protocols of zion document at gaiaguysnet and everything in it that document that it outlined to do, has happened - media, banks, ect. Amazing, and we have the bafath to thank for that! |
   
Vestri Member
Post Number: 59 Registered: 02-2006
| Posted on Monday, October 16, 2006 - 03:44 pm: |
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Spaceman, i don't know what to make of what your trying to say to me in your last post, but if you think that I am dyson, I can assure you that I am not. |
   
Vestri Member
Post Number: 60 Registered: 02-2006
| Posted on Monday, October 16, 2006 - 04:20 pm: |
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spaceman on rereading our past posts to each other i now see why you are asking me vurtually the same question there again, and i also see that you are not thinking that i am dyson too. "Ok Vestri, What is your personal opinion about the Jews, do you think they are the ones who are the cause of almost all the wars in the earth?" I think there are good jews (MHorn, einstein, ect) and bad ones, like in all races, but I think thanks to the bafath, that there are too many bad jews in control of the world (media, banks, government, ect) Do I think that Jews started all wars? I do not know, but I do believe that they were responsible for stating some - the big ones. Do i have anything nice to say about the jewish people as a whole? Nope, because what have they ever done for the good for society except try to start wars. Also the plejarens have never said anything nice about the jewish/israeli people as a whole either - 143. In truth, the Hebraons were the real scum and outcasts of Earth humanity, because through them fights and quarrels within the whole world were constantly stirred up and yet further spread, which has been maintained until the present day. 144. Earth will first finally be calm, then, when this power-hungry and bloodthirsty Hebraon alliance, and which they themselves named as a people, which has split into various sects addicted to world control, and so forth, is fully dissolved. 106. Their distant descendents now, today's Israelis, respectively their responsible ones and their myrmidons can - like the U.S.A. - commit the worst crimes pitilessly and unhindered and with their secret services and military, right before the eyes of the world at large, and even with their approval. 107. Not only that the secret service and military have criminal elements and trustworthy friends in many nations of Earth, who they, as ever, simply brutally and bloodthirstily butcher as needed and to reach their goals, no, they also have - again like the USA - through their intrigues, also understood how to make the appropriate friends in the governments, the economic concerns and banks, and so forth, or even creep into these themselves, so that their power has already grown to the degree that this cannot be grasped and perceived by Earth humans any more. http://www.gaiaguys.net/meierv2p406-410,v4p55-58,98-101.htm |
   
Matt Member
Post Number: 66 Registered: 04-2006
| Posted on Monday, October 16, 2006 - 05:56 pm: |
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On the front page of todays Herald Sun Newspaper (rupert mourdoch - jewish mother), the biggest selling newspaper in Australia, in huge bold letters it reads: Race Hate Attack! "A JEWISH man was racially abused then bashed in front of his two young children by a busload of country footballers drunk after a day at the races. Police are investigating the savage attack on Menachem Vorchheimer, 33, by players from the Ocean Grove Football Club. About 20 footballers had just left Caulfield racecourse in a mini-bus. Mr Vorchheimer said the men yelled "F--- off Jews" and "Go the Nazis" before motioning as if they were shooting a machine gun at him and his children. As the bus drove past, two men reached out the back window, grabbed Mr Vorchheimer's hat and skull cap and hurled more abuse." http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,20593372-661,00.html It shows a picture of a jewish man with a abraision under his left eye and no other injuries. The abrasion under his eye is not consitent with a Bashing (punch) but probably with a scuff mark as they tried to rip his hat off him. And as if a group of footballers would actually racially bash a man when they are boarding a bus after just leaving their training football club too!! That is just rubbish! This is the first time in a very long time that we hear about someone jewish being racially abused or supposedly bashed, and I can't believe something so small gets front page news. There have been many Muslims (dressed in their muslim apparell) that HAVE been racially abused and Bashed, due to the 911 attacks, and they never get a mention in any newspaper, unless they were seriously bashed and had to recieve hospitalisation, but not even all of them get a mention in media here in australia. But hey, why am I making a big deal of this anyway, because its not like this sort of attitude/favouritism towards jewish people from all media outlets around the world is anything new! Its the same old attitude as in the Skynews interview that tony posted before. British MP Galloway Blasts Zionist Media Live on SKY News interview. Its very good and it also mentions quite a few important things that I didn't know about Israel/Lebanon, which I've never seen mentioned anywhere yet about the war in Israel/Lebanon. This interview is also a very good example which shows how biased the western world mainstream media is. http://mahmood.tv/?p=2677 |
   
Spaceman Member
Post Number: 97 Registered: 06-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, October 17, 2006 - 06:51 am: |
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Ok Vestri, So you have nothing good to say about the Jews. The thing is this, we the white race (Caucasian) speak like this about Jews. But, what about us, have we not been power hungry? O f course we have. Have we not cause wars (Big ones, in your terms)? Think over all what are the Plejarans trying to say, do you think here (on earth) peace can be achieved by 'dissolving' the Jews, that is separating them into sects? Obviously not, there will be war even then, please lets think, not become the puppets of the Plejarens. I know they also urge us to think for ourselves and it is good if we too practice just this. I mean those lines clearly speak low of the Jews, then in a previous forum post, that got good 5 star votes (That of Tjames, post no. 210 in the Archive through 19 sep 2006 same section) Tjames has said that racism, that is, even a distinguishing of race characteristics doesn't or differences are 'very small'. Then here we are taking about the Jews being ill minded people. If the Jews are as you say, then nothing great can even be said of the way we as a race have lived on this planet. What about the wars we caused and the people we killed? |
   
Matt Member
Post Number: 67 Registered: 04-2006
| Posted on Monday, October 16, 2006 - 06:05 pm: |
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That attitude of the media towards jewish people is perfectly described by George Galloway at the end of that skynews interview - "you (all media) believe that jewish blood is more valuable then muslim blood" - or any other blood for that matter! The Protocols of Zion and a world media that is nearly all totally owned or run by jewish/zion people! |
   
Tjames Member
Post Number: 222 Registered: 12-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, October 17, 2006 - 02:57 pm: |
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Spaceman please don't "drag" me into the catfight for an arument that truly stems from racist people on this forum (in my opinion) If you're going to quote someone please use their words in the correct context. "This may also make the "race" issue sound even more divided the way I just described, but if you think about it by studying differences or realities of anatomy especially in the spiritual sciences you will find that genetic variations between human races are EXTREMELY SMALL! This does not negate the fact that certain races lets say the "negroid" race is faster off the block or the caucasian race is somehow "smarter" because certain anatomical differences can be found between the races that indicate different levels of adaption. For example the Chinese have larger skulls and the English/Britsh thought they had the largest skulls when compared to Africans and somehow thought that this represented "inteligence" and maybe it does. Or, maybe that is how that specific human race evolved given their conditions." I was taking a look at GENETIC DIFFERENCES with its relation to ADAPTION TO ENVIRONMENT. Agree or dissagree but make sure you understand what you're quoting from. I chose this specific aspect for my arguement because it represented a specific angle which people not only grasp easier and it is something which our science can prove right now. Argueing if or why Jewish people are bad or even insinuating one race is inferior to another is useless, we need to find constructive ways to live together. Tim Lernen ohne zu denken ist eitel Denken ohne zu lernen ist gefärlich Salome gam nan been urrda gan njjber hasala hesporona!
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Gaiaguysnet Member
Post Number: 321 Registered: 03-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, October 17, 2006 - 04:03 pm: |
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Dear fellow humans, If I decide to embrace the Jewish faith, will that turn my skin non-white or white? (see below) And what skin color will I receive if I choose the religion of Hindism? Stop fighting. All Earthlings are ONE RACE, so let's start behaving that way! "... we need to find constructive ways to live together." How about we concentrate on the NAZI/OTO (self-described "Illuminati") for a while, eh? THEY must be wetting themselves laughing! (from our opening page - my caps) "We need partners. WE CANNOT FIGHT AGAINST THE NEO-NAZIS ALONE. We need friends. We can win them by telling them their history, by talking about the others, the millions of people other than the Jews, that the Nazis killed. The Holocaust began with the Jewish. But it did not end with the Jews." Simon Wiesenthal (from an interview in the Baltimore Jewish Times, April 3, 1981) www.gaiaguys.net/Wiesenthal.htm & www.gaiaguys.net/NAZIs.15.5.04smh.htm Dear Spaceman, do you WANT me to HURT people?! I don't think so. Please read, "Those Who Lie About Contacts" if you want some more heat. http://shop.figu.org/product_info.php?cPath=63_51_53&products_id=166 Peace in love/wisdom. (You can't have one without the other!) Dyson Sydney Morning Herald Israel diplomat recall disturbing: Rudd October 16, 2006 - 10:44AM Labor foreign affairs spokesman Kevin Rudd says reports Israel has recalled its ambassador to Australia for making racist comments are disturbing. Mr Rudd cautioned he had only just read reports of the matter and wanted more information before commenting further. Fairfax newspapers reported that ambassador Naftali Tamir told an Israeli newspaper that Australia and Israel needed to cooperate because they were like sisters in Asia. "We are in Asia without the characteristics of Asians," he was reported as saying in the Haaretz newspaper. "We don't have yellow skin and slanted eyes. Asia is basically the yellow race. Australia and Israel are not - we are basically the white race." Mr Rudd said he could confirm nothing more about the story. "If those reports are accurate ... those sort of remarks are unacceptable," Mr Rudd told reporters in Canberra. "Let's take this one step at a time, these are serious matters, I understand the Israeli foreign ministry has this in hand, I'd rather take this one step at a time." © 2006 AAP |
   
Vestri Member
Post Number: 61 Registered: 02-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, October 17, 2006 - 08:27 pm: |
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Spaceman "Think over all what are the Plejarans trying to say, do you think here (on earth) peace can be achieved by 'dissolving' the Jews, that is separating them into sects? Obviously not, there will be war even then," Spaceman, I disagree with you there, because the plejarens say it in plain black and white that earth will finally have peace (be calm) when the israeli people are fully dissovled and they also say it that that race has been and still is to this present day the biggest warmongers on earth. 103. Especially now, it also confirms what has been said since ancient times, that the Israeli people originally never were an actual people, but that this mass of people, in ancient times, singly and alone consisted of a gigantic group of degenerate and partially even criminal elements, who during their existence on Earth at that time only incited discord, falseness and war. 143. In truth, the Hebraons were the real scum and outcasts of Earth humanity, because through them fights and quarrels within the whole world were constantly stirred up and yet further spread, which has been maintained until the present day. 144. Earth will first finally be calm, then, when this power-hungry and bloodthirsty Hebraon alliance, and which they themselves named as a people, which has split into various sects addicted to world control, and so forth, is fully dissolved. Tjames "Spaceman please don't "drag" me into the catfight for an arument that truly stems from racist people on this forum (in my opinion)" Tjames, I disagree with you (in my opinion) that this is a catfight and especially that it is racist too. I said that there were good and bad israeli/jewish people in the world, like as in there are in all other races. I have been mainly talking here about any past negative warmongering actions the israeli people as a whole were probably responsible for causing/starting in the past. And I have provided material to go with my comments/opinion about israel too. Christian said before at the end of his lengthy post- Christian "And since there exist close connections between the USA and Israel, many Jews (as well as Christians) must be held responsible for the bad situation the world is in today. To accuse those persons of being war-mongers etc. is NO racism at all." What is racist about talking about the negative warmongering actions and trouble that the Israel/jewish/zionist people are causing? And they are still at it today - the Israel/Lebanon war! If I am being racist with what I am talking here about the Israeli/jewish people, then so too are the Plejarens being racist towards them too with what they are talking about in the contact notes! What, with all the organisations in the world that the jewish/zionist people are in control of or own, isn't it funny how this antisimetic rubbish came about, and now as soon as anyone mentions anything NEGATIVE with the word Jewish, it is instantly seen as being antisimetic, even when it is not! The Jewish/Zionist people are in control of most of the banks and media outlets in the world and they are committing criminal crimes with the way the are abusing it (lies israel/lebanon war), and no-one is allowed to say a word or thing about the fact that nearly all the worlds media is majority owned or run jewish people, because it is instantly seen and labelled as being antisimetic! I got to give them Jews/zionists 10 points for coming up with that brilliant one to protect/sheild themselves as they go about in plane site of everyone committing their dirty and criminal deeds/protocals! |
   
Alan Member
Post Number: 70 Registered: 06-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, October 17, 2006 - 11:12 pm: |
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Vestri - "The Jewish/Zionist people are in control of most of the banks and media outlets in the world and they are committing criminal crimes with the way the are abusing it (lies israel/lebanon war), and no-one is allowed to say a word or thing about the fact that nearly all the worlds media is majority owned or run jewish people, because it is instantly seen and labelled as being antisimetic! I got to give them Jews/zionists 10 points for coming up with that brilliant one to protect/sheild themselves as they go about in plane site of everyone committing their dirty and criminal deeds/protocals!" Is that what the plejarens are referring to below? 106. Their distant descendents now, today's Israelis, respectively their responsible ones and their myrmidons can - like the U.S.A. - commit the worst crimes pitilessly and unhindered and with their secret services and military, right before the eyes of the world at large, and even with their approval. 107. Not only that the secret service and military have criminal elements and trustworthy friends in many nations of Earth, who they, as ever, simply brutally and bloodthirstily butcher as needed and to reach their goals, no, they also have - again like the USA - through their intrigues, also understood how to make the appropriate friends in the governments, the economic concerns and banks, and so forth, or even creep into these themselves, so that their power has already grown to the degree that this cannot be grasped and perceived by Earth humans any more. |
   
Tjames Member
Post Number: 223 Registered: 12-2004
| Posted on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 - 12:03 am: |
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Vestri I wasn't refering to you and yes it's ok to clarify that this is my opinion. Right the media is completely hi-jacked, so lets take it a step further if you dare to propose action. Same with you Gaiaguys. I know your very well studied with the contact notes and German writings and I'm catching up, however, what in your humble opinion SHOULD WE DO about this situation. This is not a catfight you're right Vestri, it's serious, this is a World War were talking about. I read so much about what the problems are, me personally, I know the problems. WHAT ARE WE DOING TO MAKE SOLUTIONS??? In my humble opinion it is the comradarship and bonding that holds nations together. It is the regognition that the real bond to eachother is Love. Gaiaguys, if you feel i'm describing this issue in too black and white terms then by all means lets hear a real solution, Please!! I agree, we will never find solutions if we do not study our problems at depth and then point them out to the guilty parties, I understand this. I just want to let you all know that I find no great wisdom in much of this discussion I've read. What are our goals and how might we begin to obtain them? This is what I feel is worth reading. Lest I begin titling this section a "Bickerfest". For example: Problem A. Too few people run the media leaving the many local voices that drive local economy and keep the people somewhat strengthened remain unheard. Proposed Solution: (because afterall it's not the Plejaren whom are going to save us is it?) Each forum member/ figu member agrees to dedicate a portion of his/her time educating peers, giving speeches at local colleges, dontating effort at (political) or just local radio/television/news venues of any form to influence others who write, speak and listen to all forms of media. In short, What Michael Horn's doing but not necessarily involving the Meier Contact directly. Or maybe that should be the sole objective? The book is unwritten. Pick Your Issue. Salome gam nan been urrda gan njjber hasala hesporona!
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Spaceman Member
Post Number: 98 Registered: 06-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 - 01:35 am: |
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Hello all, Vestri I knew you would disagree with me when I said the Plejarens were not correct, this is obvious. However, I still have a different opinion. Do you think the problem of Kashmir (in the indian sub-continent) will disappear? And the Onslaughts of Bush on the Middle east? Or terrorism in USA? I don't understand as to how one can even speak as such. and you have not answered the questions I asked earlier too as to what the 'White' race has done good to the world and what was said about the wrongs we have done others, Jews yes they too but we haven't been good either. You people, yourself live at this time in the land of the Native Indians, recall the vile acts we subjected them to before occupying the land. Is it right to say that we are all to be dissolved? To Dyson All Earthlings are ONE RACE, so let's start behaving that way! So aren't the Jews (people of Israel) also a part of that ONE RACE? Either we accept that there is no difference or we accept, when we do accept that there are differences and say things like the Jews (not religion, original people of Israel) should be scattered, then it should also imply that there are vast differences between two races. Because if the Jew race can be differentiated from the world so much, then what about our own race and other races, how different are they from one another? Dear Spaceman, do you WANT me to HURT people?! I don't think so. Dyson, Frankly I want the truth to be heard be it even harsh, this I have said before. I mean what has not been told about races, that is too hurting? So, my answer -- I don't think you can! I would ask you, Dyson to quote it. |
   
Vestri Member
Post Number: 62 Registered: 02-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 - 05:08 am: |
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Spaceman "Vestri...Do you think the problem of Kashmir (in the indian sub-continent) will disappear? And the Onslaughts of Bush on the Middle east? Or terrorism in USA?" I think your asking the wrong person about that because I am not that knowledgeable on all those matters there, and the only reason i know about Israel and the protocols of zion is because it is plainly obvious to anyone (with a open mind) what is going on there! Spaceman "you have not answered the questions I asked earlier too as to what the 'White' race has done good to the world and what was said about the wrongs we have done others, Jews yes they too but we haven't been good either." Every nation has done wrongs, but are you saying that just because I have been talking here about the wrongs of Israeli people, (to be fair?) I now have to also talk about the wrongs of every other nation too? Why? Everyone here knows that no race of people or nation has been good either. |
   
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Post Number: 99 Registered: 06-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 - 09:48 am: |
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Hello All, Question: How do the Plejarens plan to execute this 'dissolving' of the descendants of the Hebraons (That is the Jews)? Hello Vestri, Every nation has done wrongs, but are you saying that just because I have been talking here about the wrongs of Israeli people, (to be fair?) I now have to also talk about the wrongs of every other nation too? Why? I don't expect you to speak of the wrongs of other nations, but I wish to say that all countries have done wrong so why are the Plejarens specifically mentioning the Jews? I mean if we are in this together as said, then why are only the Jews to be dissolved (ie. scattered)? You said you are not knowledgable about the matters of Kashmir and terrorism, well I can say that neither will come to an end even if the People of Israel are 'dissovled' or scattered. Dear Dyson, I have addressed to you in my previous post. If you feel your remarks would hurt people here, I ask that you mail them to me at spaceguy4d@yahoo.com, I am curious to know about the remarks you spoke of. |
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