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Jacob
Moderator
Post Number: 404
Registered: 01-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, October 02, 2005 - 09:09 am: | 
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Hello Uday,
You are going to dislike what I am about to say, but what you tell is folklore, fairytales and total nonsense, there are no spirit guides or guru's or guardian angels, all of that is non-sense and people who believe in those are just misguided.
Uday, any cult-religion is opium for the people, with these words you know how I think and feel about ANY cult-religion.
Salome,
Jacob
Saalome gam naan ben uurda, gan njjber asaala hesporoona!
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Torrent
Member
Post Number: 23
Registered: 03-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, October 02, 2005 - 12:12 pm: |
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Hello to Uday and other ghost-believers!
I have seen many "super-realistic" photos or even video clips of "supposedly" ghosts, but you should know and understand that these are all either fairytales or fabrications because spirits only exist on the other side of this world once they leave our bodies, according to Plejarens.
The logic is simple. If you believe in Plejarens, who are spiritually much more advanced than we are, then what they say is right. They say all ghosts, fairies, guardian angels, devils are imaginary.
Regards. |
Savio
Member
Post Number: 525
Registered: 07-2000
| | Posted on Friday, November 04, 2005 - 06:58 am: |
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Hi Jacob
Do you have more information related to the question I posted on Monday, August 08, 2005 on this thread?
Thanks in advance 
Regards
Savio |
Markc
Member
Post Number: 238
Registered: 06-2000
| | Posted on Saturday, November 05, 2005 - 11:38 pm: |
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I was in a conversation with core group members in 2000 , and the discussion involved 'ghosts' as being 'recordings'. The walls of a room or even a section of land will be polarized magnetically , taking in consistent actions that happen everyday . Years later , remnants of those actions are played back .I'm sorry to not know more about this , but it was also mentioned that a person who was still living and removed from old dwellings could trigger appearances of their old 'psyche recordings' in the old house , when they are sleeping ( by dreams of the old house).That's why many sightings happen at night , I suppose .
Mark
Mark Campbell
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Edward
Member
Post Number: 552
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 03:22 am: |
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Hi Mark...
Good for you to have mentioned this!
That would Truly make much sense, what you explained.
A Sensitive person would act as a "Converter"(Medium) in absorbing the
magnetic "Vibrations" and thus than Convert/Unload the absorbed Vibrations
into our present Vibration: daily life.
We all know what a "Magnet" can do...not? If we can manipulate a magnet to
Load and Unload, truly...the Unload capability would give it the
possibility to draw back/play back all what it has Attracted/Taped/
Absorbed.
Typical and Logical...that Earthly Magnetic Fields CAN generate an
absorbing Process(ing), within it's field(s), and than at a later time can
be Triggered to play itself back just by a person that is able to generate
the needed Frequency to Project the past events which was recorded. It be
via Dream Perception, or just via the Awaken Perception state of being. As
an individual may even have both capabilities at hand.
This would be just like the video camera which utilizes its Magnetic
Recording Head and Converts what is being recorded onto the cam tape. The
cam tape being the Medium, with the needed video components, to convert the
recorded data into to the recorded images...which is Played Back. Even the
same...with Audio manifestations.
So, as you can notice, Creation has a way of keeping itself up to date, so
to speak, with all the data which is absorbed by ALL elements within
Creation...itself. This is just "Wonderbaarlijk"! And as you may know, we
are all dependent of the Magnetic Fields all around us; and that they all
process in Synchronization to Creation's calculation mechanism...so to
speak, generated by ourselves and all that exist around us, and within
Creation.
I would Acknowledge the Magnetic processing as well as the Fluid Forces
process(ing)...play part in such manifestations: what man calls -
Paranormal Activities -. Which is actually and Naturally: NORMAL
activities!!!
The above mentioned, would truly explain the NORMAL activities/events that
took place in differs houses my family and me moved in...in the past. My
mother and father had in their past life in their country of birth, lived
in houses that seemed to make such NORMAL events manifest. Even in our
homes in Europe and even in the USA, we lived in a house with "Poltergeist"
effects. This house we lived in, in the USA, had very very many
manifestations. We were warned by the neighbors at the time. What was the
case: a man hung himself in the kitchen in the past, and it seems his
Vibrations - Fluid Forces and Magnetic Field Recordings - would manifest so
every now and than. Washing machine would run by itself, tap would run by
itself, doors would open by them selves, lights went on and off, and go so
on....etc...etc. It was just one Poltergeist manifestation. And a Horror
Haunted House movie coming into reality!! It was really a house to have one
eye open...when you lay in bed... I can remember this all as if it were
yesterday.
I thank Billy and the Plejarans for revealing the insight to these facts.
And so now, we KNOW and can Acknowledge, that Spooks/Ghosts and what not...: DO NOT EXIST!!!
These manifestations are ALL... - Fluid Forces and Magnetic
Field Recordings - related. They are just being "Played Back", and can even
Respond to our daily events and doings; almost as if they were a True
Entity with a Self Consciousness. And in a 3D like "Holographic"
manifestation...also, so to speak!
The Many Wonders Of Creation....
Edward. |
Markc
Member
Post Number: 240
Registered: 06-2000
| | Posted on Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 11:37 pm: |
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Hi Edward ;
They were called "Labile Sensitives" , as I recall now .
It seems to me that Creation has developed a method of storutelling with these 'recordings' . That people can learn a little about previous lives in their own dwellings .
The invisible manipulations of devices are a bit more complex , but I would assume that the habitual use of devices in any era would translate it's magnetic task into the present . Hopefully by learning , some of us will cease to ask the magnetic forces in these houses to leave , and instead , build devices to clean the rooms of the magnetic print .
Mark
Mark Campbell
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Markc
Member
Post Number: 241
Registered: 06-2000
| | Posted on Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 11:39 pm: |
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Sorry , a Typo - I meant :
It seems to me that Creation has developed a method of storytelling with these 'recordings' .
Mark Campbell
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Edward
Member
Post Number: 554
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 15, 2005 - 05:14 am: |
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Hi Mark...
I see.
Yes, I can also remember that the Fluid Forces(and other Magnetic Forces
process(ing)...) can be of great use and importance when we Reincarnate
into our newly human body. The Fluid Forces (Recordings) are of such
significance.. as to be seen as an additional supplement to the newly
generated human being and it's contents. The principle is very very clear.
Speaking of the Vibrations that still manifest and take place in homes.
I want to get back to my own family's experiences.
It is usual and common, that in Indonesian custom/tradition(from my In-
donesian side - family being known as Indisch), to, before moving into
another house, to "Cleans It", a week(or so) before moving in. My parents
never told me how this was done in details, but this should be done to
Cleans the house from any Negative Forces or Vibrations, or left behinds...
that dwell in the house. In our house in the USA: Either my parents did not
let cleans the house sufficient enough, or...the Vibrational Forces were
too strong(this due to the Suicide of a previous occupant)..that it made
complete cleansing impossible? Which can happen. Will have to ask them
again. Usually, this processing works, once it is done, as it should
without any bi-effects left behind.
So, as you can notice, Cleansing a house before moving in is common in some
country traditions. And to some people, it is something to laugh at, alas.
But, I think: Ignorance Serve Them More Than Wisdom, not?
Billy even mentioned that the ET Dwarf Brownies(Brown ET Race), from the
Federation, Cleansed the grounds of the center before building, if I am
correct. The cleansing was done also to Neutralize the grounds from any
Unnecessary Vibrational (activities from the past) which may have Negative
Influences...and so forth. I think you are familiar with this information.
A very good example of what a Cleansed(Neutralized) Ground/Property can
have; is of this example of a home which stood firm and gracious without
any damage, what so ever. Can not confirm its truth, but there is much
Logic to the event; I would conclude from my own judgement.
There was a family that wanted to build a new home in Oakland Hills, in
California, if I am correct. Before they started to build, they asked a
Monk to cleans the property they wanted to build on. And so, this
Monk...cleansed the grounds. And now, they could start to build.
After the building was done, the Monk was called in once again. And now he
Cleansed(Neutralized) the whole house and the grounds once again. So now,
the family felt Protected against any sort of Negative Forces or
Calamities... what so ever.
Years later, the Oakland Hills fire broke out; I take it you are familiar
with it? Which became a world news event. The news showed, the great damage
the fire did and showed that there was only ONE house that stood as if the
fire just went around it, without damaging it at all!!
What was the case: The house that had no fire damage what so ever, was the
house that was Cleansed(Neutralized) many years before by the Monk!!! So,
it seems, that the Cleansing of the grounds, and even the house...DID
PROTECT the home from this Negative event. There seemed to have been no
other explanation, as was concluded. So, this experience does make One
THINK!??
Seems, Cleansing the grounds and home Does Protect the Inhabitants
(Materially and Spiritually: Consciousness) from any Recorded Negative
Vibrational(Loaded) manifestations. Billy's example is very very clear to
us all, and to be Acknowledged as TRUTH. Thus, it should be common for One
to Cleans a home before permanently moving into it, if needed. Just a
Precaution, so to speak, to avoid The Unexpected and Harm, from manifesting
itself.
And again, The Cleansing is most common to do in Asian and African
countries, and some others.
Edward. |
Markc
Member
Post Number: 242
Registered: 06-2000
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 15, 2005 - 10:10 pm: |
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Hi Edward ;
That fire story is one of many , I am sure .
I would like to know what procedure your parents
used to neutralize your home . I am most interested in the knowledge and customs of various cultures .Thank you for looking into it .
I assume that the Plejars have devices to measure these energies .
Salome , Mark
Mark Campbell
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Edward
Member
Post Number: 555
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, November 20, 2005 - 12:43 am: |
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Hi Mark...
Yes, I would agree.
The Plejarans would, without doubt, indeed utilize some sort of Device to
measure and Neutralize the Left-behind Fluid Forces and other Magnetic
Recordings phenomenons.
Naturally, we humans of this time and age are still somewhat Primitive in the
practice of this type of processing. And that the suited devices still have
yet to be developed. And that we, in this time and age...still utilize the
most simplest of things/attributes to let this Magnetic Recording Phenomenon
Neutralization processing come into reality. And that this, by way of pasting
it down...from generation to generation.
And without doubt, the Plejarans and Co would have perfected the methods and
techniques to its utmost ability, and possibility. Perfecting the Cleansing/
Neutralization processing. Which speaks for itself.
Will see what I can do.
Edward. |
Tjames
Member
Post Number: 111
Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, November 20, 2005 - 10:33 pm: |
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Hello Mark and Edward,
I know about as much as just stated, but, since reading several books about Native American culture, "Star Ancestors" by Nancy Redstar and "Guide to Sedona Arizona" both wonderful and informative reads I discovered also through some educational PBS programs that the Indians cleansed their living quarters with sage that was dried and burnt as well as tobacco along with a strong prayer. I figured when I was younger that this would be a good experiment to cleanse the looming vibe in my bedroom at my old home. Altough, I didn't use tobacco, I've smelled plenty of that, and I put a pinch of dried Sage, tea in many Arab cultures (and readily available as I live with Palistinians) and burnt in a small bowl to spread the aroma starting in the basement. I would focus intense bright light in certain intensities as it felt necessary around each room of the house. I mentally sayed a prayer of "cleanse this house" drawing from inner self. Well right after I felt the room lighter and easier to think in and soon when relatives came over for visits, they would stay longer and longer each visit as I would cleanse every several months. We are having thanksgiving and it would be nice to have a place seemingly balanced and neutral.. so I think i'll do it agian.
Does this sound odd? or too cerimonial? It does seem to show results. Although, working with magnetics seems to do a more thorough job I would presume.
Saalome,
Tim |
Newinitiation
Member
Post Number: 98
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, January 05, 2006 - 02:25 am: |
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dear froum members
I realise that because of the close connection by ancestry of the plejarens, henok, nokodemion and arahat athersata to terrestrial humans, our ancient history and the earthly situation up to the present, I gather most of the information coming from billy will pertain to the past activities of these group not to mention the previous prophets because it concerns directly to the earthly affairs.
I wonder though because there are 6 higher levels of we-forms up to the petale level who are much much older and wiser according to the information anyway, than arahat athersata or the high supreme council, why is their no information related to the past incarnations, activities and histories of these we forms. To develop to where they are, they must have gone through the same physical incarnation process just like every other evolutive spirit harbouring physical humanoid who possess intelligence and through their influence nokodemion's first incarnation as a human being back some 80 billion years ago, would have in some way or another received assistance just as we do from the plejarens? what ever happened to their cronicles and if it was so long time ago, would their akasha storage impulses dissipitated and vanished due to them having passed to the fine matter sphere?
Would the petale level which have become one with creation simply absolve or dissolve into creation that they no longer maintain any individual characteristics that sets them apart as petale?
would the process in them becoming one with creation not be so different to a teaspoon drop of coloured liquid dropped into the ocean?
does anybody have some information. it'll be much appreciated.
peace be with you all |
Thomas
Member
Post Number: 86
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Friday, January 06, 2006 - 02:23 pm: |
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Hello there newinit... To answer part of your question, it is my understanding that the information recorded in the akasha chronicles is recorded at many different levels and is never again lost completely even if one of the levels is destroyed. For example I have read somewhere in the material that there is an akasha chronik around each inhabited planet as well as others (for example enveloping each galaxy). I may have this wrong but to my mind I remember also that once the individual's spirit combines permanently with the comprehensive consciousness block, that information becomes a permanent part of the newly conscious-consciousness of that spirit form. As I said I may not be 100% exact in my wording but that is the gist of it.
Oh and Billy answered a question of mine sometime ago about a related subject and he said that the oscillations/impulses do not ever dissipate but he did not explain the fine details of it... |
Newinitiation
Member
Post Number: 102
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Friday, January 06, 2006 - 09:39 pm: |
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dear Thomas
Thanks Thomas
Maybe although relevent to earthly history in some way for us to think about the past histories of the we-forms, I gather billy or the plejarens may not see the point in going into further details about them in the present because there are so much that we as the degenerate human beings suffering from the original sin (genetic manipulation) need to know more urgently (spiritual teachings) besides being too overburdened with other additional information the plejarens may see as not so relevent to us at present.
Anyway thanks for the info provided.
peace be with you |
Thomas
Member
Post Number: 87
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Monday, January 09, 2006 - 05:08 am: |
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You are welcome Newinit. I don't have the most accurate info always but at least I know what it is like to be searching for answers and it seems that there is only dead ends sometimes. I try to help if I can because others have tried to help me. Smile! |
Dplotmach
Member
Post Number: 78
Registered: 09-2004
| | Posted on Friday, January 13, 2006 - 07:03 pm: |
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Hi.
Some time ago I had an encounter with a woman who called herself "Uriel". It was in a very chaotic situation. Some of the people who were with me also shaked hands with her, but they do not remember her name now, I guess. Suddenly she was gone. I had never heard of that name before maybe half a year afterwards. Do you think it could have been the Arahat Athersata in any way, interfering/guiding/introducing themselves to me? I wont describe the details of this, but they are some kind of helpers aren't they? I know theire not supposed to be angels, having relations to cult-religion etc.
Moderators?
I expect a harsh response...
Dplotmach,
The name Uriel (Urjjel) is of Old-Lyrian origin. The Arahat Athersata is not a being, but a level of spiritual development.
Scott |
Markc
Member
Post Number: 259
Registered: 06-2000
| | Posted on Saturday, January 14, 2006 - 09:03 pm: |
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Hi D ;
I don't think that this woman was an 'angel' or part of the AA , but rather just a spiritually interested woman who walks softly and glides on her feet like a dancer . People like this can seldom be detected when entering a room because they have an ethereal quality to them that is not supernatural , but rather acclimated towards being "airy" . I have heard and seen women who just vanished , merely because many women have talents of non-confrontation , and can seem to vanish , when you only think that you are paying attention .
Mark Campbell
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Junior
Member
Post Number: 39
Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, January 15, 2006 - 06:26 am: |
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Dear Dplotmach,
From what I understood, is that the only exception done was that Henock was explained certain things about life and the universe by the spirits at the level of Arahat Athersata, that he would only understand I think after 7000 years after being explained, (from the book OM). As to note, that is if am not mistaken he was at the level of Arahat Athersata before.
So my thoughts is that really in most cases why would they want to contact another person, which in most cases won't help or won't understand, or comprehend what they have to say as, it is explained that we have to evolve on our own. Especially if one on earth is able to understand them that means the person must be near to the level of Billy’s understanding, which I doubt.
But one never knows... I might be mistaken
Peace to all, and one Love
Junior
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Consolato
Member
Post Number: 57
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, January 15, 2006 - 06:16 pm: |
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hi jacob,
could you or anyone else please help me with the answer to a question I'ld like to ask? Animal's and human both have a material consciousness. Animal's material consciousness is incapable of being conscious of their own consciousness, whereas humans are capable of being conscious of their own consciousness. My question is when humans are being conscious of their own consciousness, is that more of a material consciousness thought process or is that more of a spirit consciousness thought process? I tend to think that it is a material consciousness thought process but I'm not really sure because of how animals are incapable of doing this action, but humans are. But if this action was a material consciousness thought process then animals should be able to do it too, but they can't. But because humans are the only one's capable of doing this action logic tells me its because humans have something inside them that animals don't have? Isn't the only other thing that humans have inside them that animals don't have is a spirit? So could being conscious of your own consciousness be a spirit consciousness thought process and not a material consciousness thought process? I'm stuck on this one. Could you please let me know what the thought process of being conscious of one's own consciousness actually is or means in relation to the pysche or to the spirit? I only ask this because I've never seen anything posted mentioning this matter in any of the past posts posted here on this forum.
many thanks Con |
Consolato
Member
Post Number: 68
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 25, 2006 - 03:34 pm: |
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or is the only thing that allows to be conscious of our own consciousness is our intelligence level, compared to animals? |
Jacob
Moderator
Post Number: 455
Registered: 01-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, January 26, 2006 - 03:07 am: |
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Hello Consolato,
I will answer your questions later today.
Salome,
Jacob
"If you measure the size of your Ego to the size of your knowledge or what you assume you know, then you should always try to remember that your ignorance is infinitely larger, then any knowledge you have."
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Hunter
Member
Post Number: 189
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, January 26, 2006 - 06:52 pm: |
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Jacob,
To follow up Consolato's question, if half-human, half-animal hybrids are created, such as the pig-human hybrids mentioned in contact 251, would their spiritforms come from the animal realm or the human realm?
Namaste,
Hunter |
Edward
Member
Post Number: 575
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Friday, February 03, 2006 - 02:40 am: |
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Hi All....
The distinction between Ancient (ET) Spirit-forms from the much younger
Earthly Spirit-forms.
Someone once asked, on this discussion board, if we could distinct the
Ancient (ET) Spirit-forms from the much younger Earthly Spirit-forms; and
this may be a Hint for you all.
I remember Billy once mentioning, that the human beings on Earth that are
not that Focused on MONEY (and other Earthly Materials) and do not care
even that much about it, are in most cases of Ancient descent. They do not
live on Earth in a very Material manner and survive with what they see is
fit and needed for their stay/existence here on Earth.
It is not that they can not handle Money; it is that their aversion of
Money and other Earthly Material aspects of life, is due to their - Ancient
Way Of Being -, and thus, live in accordance to the Laws of Creation. Thus,
the Commandment of NOT Acquiring Material Gain within the Material Life
cycle(s)...is imbedded within their Spirit Consciousness, and thus they
live "Consciously" with and according to the mentioned quality. And thus,
this will always be their Approach towards the Material Aspects of the
Material life when in the reincarnation processing.
The above mentioned Ancient (ET) Earth population, live a Wise and Creational
Spiritual Way Of Being, and a most Simple life style...here on Earth.
And what the Younger Earthly Spirit-forms are concerned: They are the exact
"Opposite" of the above mentioned! They just: "Live It Up", so to
speak....and fall prey to Cult Religions, and all other Earthly Distorted
Dogmas and so forth.
Edward. |
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