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    Kiril Member Post Number: 150 Registered: 12-2005 |
Hello Tony, Your incorrect. My previous post was aimed at Hunter and Matt,I apologies for any confusion. Kiril | ||
Rarena Member Post Number: 108 Registered: 10-2005 |
What do the twelve Creational Laws say about Justice and protection of our families if indeed a world war breaks out? Tschüs... Love to all... rarena ô¿ô Ancient Lyrian coded to Earth peace meditation: Saalome gam naan ben uurda, gan njjber asaala hesporoona. Please see here for correct pronunciation: http://www.theyfly.com/salome/salome.htm English: Peace be on Earth, and among all beings. | ||
Matt Member Post Number: 80 Registered: 04-2006 |
Kiril and Rarena, I don't see anything wrong with preparedness for the possible arrival of WW3 in the very near future. What should we all do to counteract and deal with this very real future threat of WW3? Is it a right or good move to put all our eggs and efforts in the one basket - the peace meditation one? Dear Billy, I hope you are well. I am wondering about the effects of the peace meditation. If there are 3.5 billion Extraterrestrials + 4000 or so Earthlings doing the peace meditation and that is not enough to stop a third world war, how many more participants would it take to stop the war? Thank you! Answer Even 100 billion persons are not enough if there are people who don’t want to make peace, but prefer quarrel and war. Peace meditation slightly influences a vibration. It is no coercion. The free will of any person is guaranteed. http://forum.figu.org/cgi-bin/us/discus.cgi?pg=next&topic=12&page=5536 | ||
Tony Member Post Number: 107 Registered: 01-2006 |
"Hey Tony, Very good movie and detailed I might add. I heard about Scalar Weapons through Tom B and his reports to Russia's capabilities several years back, very detailed as well." Hi Tjames, I'm glad you liked it! I didn't have the spare money to pay for the DVD when it came out, so I've been waiting impatiently for it to come out on google. Yes Tom Bearden is great too! I was surprised to hear that Russia has spent $ the equivalent of 7 Manhantan projects on researching and working on Scalar technology. No wonder Russia has made so much progress in Scalar technologies, and is why they are in the third or forth generation level of scalar technology, while the other nations that possess Scalar are barely in the first generation level. | ||
Tony Member Post Number: 108 Registered: 01-2006 |
"For decades scientist Tom Bearden has spoken out about the Russian scalar electromagnetic weapons, decrying the fact that the U.S. was far, far behind in that particular weapons race. Of one of the times he briefed the U.S. Military on this new and devastating field of weapons he said "The D.O.D. (Department of Defense) didn't have the foggiest notion of what we were talking about." http://www.prahlad.org/pub/bearden/scalar_wars.htm Proffessor Tom Bearden Bio - Lieutenant Colonel U.S. Army (Retired). President and Chief Executive Officer, CTEC, Inc. MS Nuclear Engineering, Georgia Institute of Technology. BS Mathematics, Northeast Louisiana University. Graduate of Command & General Staff College, U.S. Army. Graduate of Guided Missile Staff Officer's Course, U.S. Army (equivalent to MS in Aerospace Engineering). Numerous electronic warfare and counter-countermeasures courses. Tom is the author of several books and videotapes and numerous papers. He is President and CEO of CTEC, Inc., a private R&D corporation engaged in research on free energy devices and the mechanisms for interaction of EM fields and radiation with biological systems. He is president of the Association of Distinguished American Scientists (ADAS), a life member of the Alabama Academy of Science, and served on the Board of Directors of the U.S. Psychotronics Association and the American Association of Metascience. He edited and published Specula, Journal of the AAMS, for four years. He also served on the Board of Directors of Astron, Inc., a private aerospace R&D corporation in the greater Washington D.C. area, noted for its specialized RF antennas. Tom is a leading conceptualist in alternate energy technology, mind/matter interaction, EM bioeffects, paranormal phenomena, parapsychology, psychotronics, Tesla technology, and unified field theory concepts. He is the leading advocate of scalar potential electromagnetics, and has worked with several inventors involved in alternate energy devices and scalar electromagnetic system prototypes. He advanced the first force-free redefinition of mass as well as an electromagnetic mechanism that generates the flow of time, and has proposed a testable resolution of the century-old debate over the way in which energy flows in electrical circuits. He defined charge q as a coupled system of two components, and not unitary at all. He advanced a mechanism for electromagnetically producing a vacuum engine, whereby the vacuum itself is utilized to energetically shape and manipulate matter and energy. In August 1991 Sweet (now deceased) and Bearden reported in the hardcore technical literature Sweet's successful extraction of electromagnetic power (500 watts) from the vacuum, and the world's first highly successful antigravity experiment where the weight of a 6-pound device was reduced by 90 percent on the laboratory bench. Tom recently proposed and released worldwide a simple, novel mechanism for extracting free electrical energy from the vacuum and powering external loads. He and his CTEC colleagues are rapidly pioneering a formal theory of such overunity electrical machines. Four patents have been filed to date and two more are in progress. He proposed a new mechanism and model for the interaction of EM fields and radiation with biological systems - the fundamental model used by EM bioeffects researchers is inadequate and yields contradictory experiments and studies, difficult or impossible replicability, and almost no fundamental causative mechanisms. Tom discovered and published a fundamental mechanism for generating a quantum potential, which produces action-at-a-distance as well as multiply connected spacetime. http://twm.co.nz/Beard_bio.htm | ||
Matt Member Post Number: 81 Registered: 04-2006 |
Hunter: "Matt....But the guns will be most important. Without the guns, you will not be able to prevent low life marauders from stealing the rest of what you have." Thats right Hunter. And who's to say they won't shoot you (or your family) after they take your food anyway! The truth of the matter is that there is very little or NO law at all in society in ATSHTF senario. There are many activities involved in being a survivalist that might be illegal in ATSHTF senario. If, as a survivalist, you would never consider breaking the law, your chances of survival are almost zero. Here in Australia bugging out in a National Park or State Forest is illegal, carrying weapons for self defence is illegal, buying any more than a few boxes of ammunition is illegal, fishing without a licence is illegal - I could go on with many more things about all the survival techniques that are illegal. If the circumstances warranted it, would you rather save the lives of your family, or be thought of as an honest citizen? | ||
Tony Member Post Number: 109 Registered: 01-2006 |
Tjames, just in regards to what you said there that i quoted you on in that post. I have not researched Tom Bearden's material much on Russia's Scalar potential know how much of that video is based on Beardens work. Dyson is probably the person here who would know most about that because he has read ALL of Beardens books and material. I just sent a copy of that video on CD to Dyson for him to have a look (because he has slow connection) and i suspect that Dyson will say that a most of that video is based on Beardens work. | ||
Mgilbo1 Member Post Number: 46 Registered: 09-2002 |
Tony, Don't get too rapped up about what Russia has over America with Scalar Weapons. My father invented most of the radar used today for them and no one has what he does today with his new radar designs. Check out US patent 3757341... It was classified for years until my father forced them to release it(some that still aren't). His designs gave the US superior radar capability over other nations in the world. I have a radar design that can radar 30,000+ feet underground and tell you exactly whats there right down to within a foot. We were radaring oil fields in Texas in the early 90's to 35,000 feet with no holes drilled. Its range is unlimited due to the fact that he has solved the interactions of EM waves and matter.. The key to many future technologies and real space exploration vehicles by the way. The real history of the US and its communications are kept under wraps. Very few scientists made the US the world leader. I could count them on one hand and maybe even less fingers than that. There are certain scientists in the world that are far superior to all the others and it is those that the world don't know about. There is a lot of hype out there. Don't believe it all. Mark Gilbo | ||
Tony Member Post Number: 110 Registered: 01-2006 |
Mgilbo1, I don't see the point you trying to make there with talking about radar. Whats the big deal with Radar, its only used for detecting moving objects. It can't be used for offensive purposes and could hardly be called as being used defensive purposes. It is NO comparision to Scalar weaponery. "There is a lot of hype out there. Don't believe it all." Tom Bearden is the western worlds leading expert in the know regarding EM-Scalar weapons. Who else would know more then him?? Are you saying that his material is hype?? I'd listen to what Tom Bearden says about Russia's Scalar weaponary over what you or your father (radar) says any day. Also, Dyson was a USAF radar technician and he is a firm believer in Beardens material too. Them two sources is enough for me to believe that Russia has Scalar weapons. | ||
Hunter Member Post Number: 254 Registered: 03-2004 |
* Thats right Hunter. And who's to say they won't shoot you (or your family) after they take your food anyway! The truth of the matter is that there is very little or NO law at all in society in ATSHTF senario. Right - and with no law - if you do not exercise your innate right of self-defense, you will most definitely end up dead. Your position in this matter is filled with emotion and it's irrational. You enemies may very well be armed - if they're going to shoot at you anyway, do you want a weapon to try and protect yourself and your family, or do you simply want to turn yourself into a human bullseye???? * There are many activities involved in being a survivalist that might be illegal in ATSHTF senario. If, as a survivalist, you would never consider breaking the law, your chances of survival are almost zero. Here in Australia bugging out in a National Park or State Forest is illegal, carrying weapons for self defence is illegal, buying any more than a few boxes of ammunition is illegal, fishing without a licence is illegal - I could go on with many more things about all the survival techniques that are illegal. If the circumstances warranted it, would you rather save the lives of your family, or be thought of as an honest citizen? Matt, you've got a lot of false beliefs you need to overcome. The first is your devotion to statutory law. If you were alive in Nazi Germany, would you be a good German citizen and start tossing people into ovens if the government passed a law requiring you to do so? The Creational Laws are the highest laws. If human governments create laws in violation of these laws or that contradict these laws - THEN AN HONEST PERSON MUST SPEAK OUT AGAINST THEM AND SEEK TO CHANGE THEM. We should use every power within our means - civil disobedience, jury nullification, voting out the politicians who pass such bogus "laws", etc. In such situations, the question isn't will you be a good little sheep and obey a corrupt government that passes bogus laws, but will you stand up against them? | ||
Vestri Member Post Number: 69 Registered: 02-2006 |
Mark if this is anything to go by, which I think it is, the Henoch Prophecies spoke of Russia and the USA clashing against each other in world war 3. The HP didn't exactly mention the outcome between them two, but it did say a little later that the USA would suffer 'total devastation' in world war 3, but there was no mention at all of any damage that Russia would suffer from the war. I'm not suggesting this means that Russia wouldn't suffer any loss, but only that it would not suffer the same degree of total loss and destruction the USA would. The video spoke of Russia's Scalar weaponry having numerous types of defensives capabilities. Perhaps this is why there was no mention in the HP of how much damage Russia sustained in world war 3. If the USA is great and mighty as you and just about everyone else believes, then why is it going to suffer total devastation and one of the worst fates of all in world war 3? I actually think there is TOO much hype about the USA military potential. I think that what people need to keep in mind is that the USA is the worlds leading SHOWMAN country, always showing off, bragging and over exaggerating about everything its has or does, and Russia IS the complete opposite to that. | ||
Peter_brodowski Member Post Number: 227 Registered: 01-2004 |
hey vestri, you sound like you think world war 3 is going to happen, is that what you think? "Perhaps this is why there was no mention in the HP of how much damage Russia sustained in world war 3." "then why is it going to suffer total devastation and one of the worst fates of all in world war 3? " maybe i'm mistaken? | ||
Matt Member Post Number: 82 Registered: 04-2006 |
Matt: "There are many activities involved in being a survivalist that might be illegal in ATSHTF senario." Hunter: "Matt, you've got a lot of false beliefs you need to overcome...." Hunter i was hoping you would pick up on that little typing mistake (underlined) I made there which was at the start of that paragraph. That underlined bit obviously was not supposed to be there. It makes no sense being there at the start of that particular paragraph. Also everyone knows that there are NO laws like that being enforced by anyone in a ATSHTF senario. My apologies, I should have reread that post before i posted it in. I do share the same opinion as you on this particular matter though. | ||
Jo_jo Member Post Number: 197 Registered: 04-2003 |
Tony said: I have not researched Tom Bearden's material much on Russia's Scalar potential know how… Dyson was a USAF radar technician and he is a firm believer in Beardens material too. Them two sources is enough for me to believe that Russia has Scalar weapons. Succinctly put, Tony. You’re a BELIEVER not a THINKER. Good luck with that. | ||
Mgilbo1 Member Post Number: 47 Registered: 09-2002 |
Tony, When one is called an expert, you must always ask who gave them the title. Many scientists want to be experts without really being one. As for radar, its a very effective weapon that can destroy all matter if focused properly. I would beg to differ that it can't be used as a weapon or defensive purposes. I'm not here to argue with you but Bearden is not the leader in Scalar Weaponry or any other field for that matter. Mark Gilbo | ||
Mgilbo1 Member Post Number: 48 Registered: 09-2002 |
Vestri, I don't disagree with you that America and its gov't are delusional, but don't think all American's like what their country has turned into. Were not ALL stupid and ignorant. "If the USA is great and mighty as you and just about everyone else believes, then why is it going to suffer total devastation and one of the worst fates of all in world war 3?" Well first I hope this doesn't happen but I also agree that the USA will get its butt kicked if a war is started. But remember, it will take the whole world to kick it. Please keep in mind that the American People don't want war with anyone. They want what everyone else in the world wants a job, family and somewhere to eat and sleep. And I don't believe that the USA is so superior. I said there are certain scientists in the world that are superior to most others. Very few change the world. My point of my post was to point out to Tony (or try) that there is technology in the world being tested today by citizens and corps that their gov'ts don't know about. In America, there is tremendous technologies not being used do to the fact that no one wants to deal with our gov't. My fathers had technology still 40 years ahead of todays stuff that he will never bring out due to the fact that the military will always take it and classify it. I know many more that are doing the same thing. Mark Gilbo | ||
Jo_jo Member Post Number: 198 Registered: 04-2003 |
Hello Peter, I don’t know where you might be going, but please be careful with Vestri. He has previously said on this forum that he wishes for the US to be totally annihilated. He may have subsequently recanted, but we don’t need to light that fuse again. Just a suggestion. | ||
Kiril Member Post Number: 151 Registered: 12-2005 |
Hi Mgilbo1, Thanks for sharing number reference to your fathers patent, I read it with great interest this afternoon, I was experimenting with a similar idea in highschool(difference was that I was building arrays of concentric circles rather then diamonds) - the goal of which was to map underground rivers in Adelaide - thus you might guess I was also working on a much smaller scale(then that of the patent). Until only recently I had stopped all activities in building antenna/radar - when my direction of research in a different field required the building of a radar - which makes me particularly interesting in what you say about your fathers research: "Its range is unlimited due to the fact that he has solved the interactions of EM waves and matter.." Is it possible to explain exactly what this entails? As far as I remember the determinants of range of a radar are : the medium of traversal - frequency of signal - current(I) input - and radar configuration(form and orientation). Has he managed to reach such depths as you describe by some combination of these variables or uses a completely novel method? Yours, Kiril | ||
Kiril Member Post Number: 152 Registered: 12-2005 |
Tony, generally speaking a radar is a device(or system) that is able to recieve(this is what an antenna does) AND transmit electro-magnetic radiation. If you know about radar you also know about antennas - since they work on the same principles. And as you might know from your studies of Beardens work - one example "scalar weapon" given by Bearden uses antenna arrays mounted on two satellites to generate its destructive effects. You might also notice that HARRP is also an antenna array - and the expensive satellites that retrieve topographical information from Mars carry radar antenna. | ||
Jo_jo Member Post Number: 199 Registered: 04-2003 |
Perpetual Nonsense By Charles Mirho 19 August 2002 I recently spent time in the outer office of a hypnotherapist. On the reading table were several issues of a New Age periodical called New Connexion. A front-page article entitled "Scalar Energy Device Patented -- Production Starts Next Year" caught my eye. As a patent attorney I was naturally curious. United States Patent 6,362,718 was issued in March 2002. One of the inventors was Thomas Bearden, a well known free-energy proponent. According to the article, the Bearden patent covered what would soon become "the first commercially-available free-energy device in history." I thought, "Uh-oh, here we go again." It was Sir Isaac Newton who said, "The seekers after perpetual motion are trying to get something from nothing." Newton may not have been the nicest man, but he was no slouch when it came to physics. His words ring true today. The more I read of the article, the farther my eyebrows rose. By the time I finished, I think they were up around my hairline. The device is essentially an electromagnetic generator, with a twist. It extracts energy from the time domain, which is actually "compressed energy" in the same proportion as matter, the speed of light squared. The device draws from "the longitudinal electromagnetic waves that fill the ocean of space-time." There are no moving parts. It will output 2.5 kW of electricity, indefinitely, without drawing input power. Jump start it, and it goes. Forever. I thought that if Einstein were in his grave (he was cremated), he would surely turn over upon hearing this. Things that are patented must work as described. This principle acts as a form of "honesty cop" on outrageous invention claims. This wasn't always the case, but like an often-jilted lover, the patent office has become jaded and skeptical of inventions that claim to get something for nothing. The United States patent office didn't open its door until 1790, but the first English patent on a perpetual motion (PM) machine was granted long before that -- as early as 1635. Even the esteemed Leonardo da Vinci made a number of drawings of things he hoped would make energy for free. The Jesuit priest Johanes Taisnerius worked on a magnetic-based perpetual motion machine. By 1903, some have estimated that as many as 600 patents on PM devices had been granted in England alone. By the end of the Civil War, PM machines had made their way into the United States Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO). Although the USPTO now enforces a strict policy of declining patents on PM devices, as late as 1973 a man named Howard R. Johnson filed and received a patent on a Permanent Magnetic Motor. Not surprisingly, the device was never commercialized with any success. | ||
Jo_jo Member Post Number: 200 Registered: 04-2003 |
Types of "Perpetual" Motion Modern PM designs usually fall into one of a few well-known categories. All claim some technique for using a small impulse of startup energy to release a large and inexhaustible supply of sustained energy. First you have your so-called "radiant-energy" machines. Radiant energy is like electricity and is gathered directly from the environment by a method called "fractionation." Don't call it "static electricity" -- this upsets its proponents greatly. Radiant energy can perform the same wonders as ordinary electricity, at less than 1% of the cost. Another class of device is the "mechanical heater." In one such machine, one cylinder is rotated within another cylinder with a slight gap of clearance between them. The space between the cylinders is filled with a liquid such as water or oil, which heats up as the inner cylinder spins. Another such machine uses magnets mounted on a wheel to produce large eddy currents in a plate of aluminum, causing the aluminum to heat up rapidly. In both cases, the heat generated is said to exceed the mechanical energy applied. Another free-energy technique involves electrolysis, whereby water is broken down into hydrogen and oxygen using electricity. Standard chemistry books claim that this process requires more energy than can be recovered from the individual gases, but of course this is true only under the worst-case scenario. When water is electrified at its molecular resonant frequency, it collapses into hydrogen and oxygen gas with very little electrical input. Also, adding chemicals that make the water conduct electricity better improves the efficiency dramatically. Even more amazing, a special metal alloy patented in 1957 can spontaneously break water into hydrogen and oxygen with no outside electrical input at all, and without causing any chemical changes in the metal itself. Then you have your implosion/vortex engines, which use cooling to produce suction, which in turn produces work. This is the opposite of the technique employed in combustion engines, which rely on primitive chemical explosions to get things moving. And don't forget cold fusion, made famous (or infamous) in 1989 by two chemists, Martin Fleischmann and Stanley Pons of Brigham Young University. Finally, you have your permanent magnet powered motors. Browsing a copy of the Bearden patent, it quickly became apparent that his invention fell into this category. I located the obligatory disclaimer of perpetual motion on page three (remember, the patent office has finally wised up to any devices that claim to provide free energy and will decline them out of hand). However, I discovered something else that surprised me. The thing might actually be useful, though not to provide free energy. | ||
Jo_jo Member Post Number: 201 Registered: 04-2003 |
The Bearden Patent The invention consists of one or more fixed-position permanent magnets and electromagnets (coils). An initial electrical impulse, repeatedly switched to the coils in precise timing, produces an ongoing output current. The output current persists without decay long after the initial impulse is over, and the device is self-powering. The performance ratio of the prototype is 3.4. Thus, for every watt of input power, 3.4 watts of output power are produced. At first glance it does appear to be a source of free energy. What is going on? Is conservation of energy no longer a respected law of the universe? The patent provides the answer. If the device is not capturing and converting energy from its environment, it must be consuming itself. More accurately, the device must be disorganizing, e.g. increasing its entropy, like a battery. This breakdown of order is harnessed and transduced into electricity. A conventional battery transduces chemical potential into electricity. This new device transduces magnetic potential into electricity. The device's permanent magnet is depleted in a controlled fashion. Eventually the magnet goes dead and the current stops flowing. What we have, then, is a magnetic battery. The permanent magnet may be constructed of samarium cobalt, which resists demagnetization. One advantage of magnetic batteries is environmental. Isn't it preferable to litter our planet with demagnetized chunks of iron, cobalt, and boron, instead of fermenting battery acid? Forget about free energy, though. Commercially-practical magnets are not born, they are made. Making them takes energy. I suspect that when the energy of manufacturing samarium cobalt is factored into the equation, the performance ratio of the new device falls well below one. Another limitation is the output current. The experimental device produced current by the milliamps. Unless something improves, you won't be using magnetic batteries to start your car or heat your range top. | ||
Jo_jo Member Post Number: 202 Registered: 04-2003 |
The White Paper After filing the patent, Bearden and the other inventors posted a white paper claiming to have overcome the depletion problem. Surprise, surprise: they disclaim perpetual motion to win the patent, then quickly explain away the disclaimer. They now claim a theoretical foundation for operating magnetic batteries (or any batteries for that matter) indefinitely, without depletion. Several of the inventors have or claim to have scientific doctorate degrees and have been active in electromagnetic R&D for decades. Thus, their claims warrant at least some serious attention. Unfortunately, the first thing one notices about the white paper is the lack of scientific rigor. Equations are few and far between. The authors present only basic Maxwellian equalities, without enhancement. Virtually the entire sixty-nine page document is a rambling qualitative discourse. The pages are sprinkled with references to space-time, general relativity, and gauge field theory, in a fashion that can only be described as techno-babble. I'm no quantum physicist, but statements from the paper such as the following do nothing to increase the authors' credibility: In short, the mutual iterative interaction of each coil wound on the flux path of the special nanocrystalline material, with and between the two energy flows, results in special kinds of regenerative energy feedback and energy feedforward, and regauging of the energy of the system and the energy of the system process. This excess energy in the system and in the system process is thus a form of free and asymmetrical self-regauging, permitted by the well known gauge freedom of quantum field theory. Further, the excess energy from the permanent magnet dipole is continually replenished from the active vacuum by the stated giant negentropy process associated with the permanent magnet's magnetic dipole due to its broken 3-symmetry in its energetic exchange with the vacuum. The thrust of the argument is that any energy potential -- a chemical battery, a magnetic dipole, even a rock balanced on a hill -- is a limitless well of free energy, if properly tapped. In effect, the authors are saying, "We can cause electricity to flow forever from a battery by breaking the loop between the plus terminal and the minus terminal." They dangle the seductive fruit of limitless electricity, but omit the circuit diagram. I, and many others I am sure, would very much like to see how current can flow from a battery without closing the loop between plus and minus. Qualitative dissertations packed with jargon but short on rigor have long been the refuge of quacks and marketeers. Such packaging gives legs to marginal theories, turning them into greased pigs not easily dispatched by experts in the field. The invention described in the patent is unambiguously a depleting magnetic potential battery. It could be useful, but it's no energy revolution. If the inventors ever receive a patent on a non-depleting version of their machine, the world will pay serious attention. Until then, free energy will remain in the realm of fiction, and no amount of hype will turn a battery into a bombshell. There is an even deeper lesson here than the folly of chasing free energy. The proponents of such schemes generally fall into two categories: greedy con men, and "hermit scientists." This latter category of person is often highly intelligent, and is glamorized by such Hollywood movies as Back to the Future. Nonetheless, their isolation, ego, and mistrust of other scientists leads them to abandon rigor in the name of aggrandizement. All of science is interdependent, relying on the critique and revisions of others to correct errors in judgement and practice. The hard lesson here is that when a scientist, even a highly intelligent one, becomes detached from the scientific community, the result can be tragic. |
