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    Mafita New member Post Number: 3 Registered: 07-2003 |
Dear Moderator, I am including an improved processing regarding my July 27,2003 posting. Best Regards  | |||
Dino_slice Member Post Number: 6 Registered: 02-2004 |
Hello, Compared to all the rest of the UFO pictures in the field of ufology, many people would agree Billy Meier, hands down, has taken the most beautiful and clear spaceship pictures ever. To me, Billy is the "Elvis" of ufology; the king of flying saucer pics. However, IMO there is one UFO case in particular that somewhat comes close to Billy's photographic works of art. The case deals with three men, Joe Clower, Steve Thompsen, and Michael Davey: investigated by Wendelle C. Stevens during the early to mid 1990s. It was in the late 1980s that these 3 friends were prospecting for minerals in the western deserts of the United States when they noticed a strange circular thing in the sky. This sighting only lasted a few minuites without any further contact experience. But from that time on, these men started to carry cameras around in hopes of getting pictures. And get pictures they did, perhaps over 100 decent to excellent pictures of different variation craft. They got bells, saucers, 'golf tees', rectangles, cigars, a whole host of potential alien conveyance armadas. Virtually unknown, the Clower group has never written a book, never given a UFO talk, do not have a UFO website, and could really care less about their unique artistic talents. They seemed just happy about sending Wendelle pics for his UFO Photo Archives calendar series. They were even surprised as to Wendelle giving them "pin-up" of the month status. Of course, having seen nearly everything, Wendelle was impressed. Now my mind is open about this case. I tend to think that it is real. However, I'm open to what the Figu thinks about it. Anybody else? Best regards, Anthony | |||
Dino_slice Member Post Number: 7 Registered: 02-2004 |
Hello, Compared to all the rest of the UFO pictures in the field of ufology, many people would agree Billy Meier, hands down, has taken the most beautiful and clear spaceship pictures ever. To me, Billy is the "Elvis" of ufology; the king of flying saucer pics. However, IMO there is one UFO case in particular that somewhat comes close to Billy's photographic works of art. The case deals with three men, Joe Clower, Steve Thompsen, and Michael Davey: investigated by Wendelle C. Stevens during the early to mid 1990s. It was in the late 1980s that these 3 friends were prospecting for minerals in the western deserts of the United States when they noticed a strange circular thing in the sky one day. This sighting only lasted a few minuites without any further contact experience. But from that time on, these men started to carry cameras around in hopes of getting pictures. And get pictures they did, perhaps over 100 decent to excellent pictures of different variation craft. They got bells, saucers, 'golf tees', rectangles, cigars, a whole host of potential alien conveyance armadas. Virtually unknown, the Clower group has never written a book, never given a UFO talk, do not have a UFO website, and could really care less about their unique artistic talents. They seemed just happy about sending Wendelle pics for his UFO Photo Archives calendar series. They were even surprised as to Wendelle giving them "pin-up" of the month status. Of course, having seen nearly everything, Wendelle was impressed. Now my mind is open about this case. I tend to think that it is real. However, I'm open to what the Figu thinks about it. Anybody else? Best regards, Anthony  | |||
Dino_slice Member Post Number: 7 Registered: 02-2004 |
More types of craft from Clower case.    | |||
Angelheart New member Post Number: 1 Registered: 06-2004 |
Greetings, members, I am a new member, producer of internet radio show, Mysteries of the Mind, hosted by my husband, Alex Merklinger. Michael Horn was a recent guest which prompted me to apply for membership. We live in New Mexico, a sightings hotbed. I continue to have sightings and a visitation/encounter occurred to both of us a few months ago resulting in a night of "missing time". We fully support Billy Meier and the information passed on to this "Prophet" by the Plejarans. I look forward to hearing about any sightings from this area or from Colorado, where I spent most of my youth and early adulthood and experienced numerous contacts and sightings. May the angels keep you tucked safely under their wings. With Love and Light, Ardeth | |||
Jay Member Post Number: 321 Registered: 01-2002 |
Hi Ardeth, I listen to your husbands show every night here from New york City and I love his attitude and views towards the world around us. I think he is one of many out there who presents us with quality information for the masses and many of his guest are quite a good mix of things. I am glad that your husband and yourself have read the Billy Meier information and hopefully maybe if possible have Michael Horn come to the show as a regular, that would be an awesome idea. Glad that you can be part of this FIGU Group and that you may share more of your exeriences with us  . Michael Horn in the show made mention when he visited the FIGU Center in May that most of the UFO sightings seen in the states are part of the what the Plejarens consider new technologies of possible Anti Gravity propulsion systems being tested. We all know of course most of us have been aware of this for years and it is one of those things where the Plejarens made confirmation of these things in rescent times. The Plejarens also made mention that not all are from us here in our world and that some are visits from certain ET groups as well. We must keep that in mind when we see these sightings in our everyday life at this time. Thanks again for joining, all the best Saalome and BE WELL to ALL
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Jukdo Member Post Number: 11 Registered: 05-2004 |
Hello- Here is an interesting sighting that happened over my home town of Rockford. I happened to witness these strange objects. They are simular to the Pheonix lights. Rockford is a city of about 150,000 people. Hundreds of people witnessed this event. It happened not once but three times in the same months over three years. They were dubbed the Rockford Orbs.    The photos were taken with 5-second time exposures, which created the patterns seen here. Continued.... | |||
Jukdo Member Post Number: 11 Registered: 05-2004 |
Here are some of the local aricles...   I have about eight articles on this event over the past three years. Todd- | |||
Coventry_girl New member Post Number: 1 Registered: 09-2004 |
Greetings Everyone! I am new here, as a member, but have "lurked" for awhile. I commend Billy and all of FIGU for their steadfast work, as this planet is in dire need of "waking up" to the truth of our history, and who we really are. I live in the Northeast USA, and have been watching all the storms devastate the Caribbean, and our southern coasts. Tonight, I went to one of my usual favorites and found this link. Could it be related? http://www.osasleuths.org/Main/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=82&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=165#IVAN Moderator, I hope that is ok It is a huge file, but please be patient. It is a series of pictures of our sun. Any ideas? Blessings to you all Hello Coventry_girl, It is ok to post links, but it is discouraged in posting new url's (links which directly connect to a website) unless they tie directly to a Billy Meier related site. Thanks for asking-Moderator | |||
Torrent Member Post Number: 13 Registered: 03-2003 |
I live in Korea and there was a TV show regarding an UFO sighting near Seoul. Though they eventually confirmed the UFO was a satellite, it briefly mentioned Billy like the following " There is a Swiss called Billy Meier who claims to have maintained contacts with extraterrestrials, but all of pictures and video clips have been proven as fakes" in addition to showing some pics he took. I think it is just much easier for them to make a hasty judgment than thoroughly investigate something. Very disappointing. | |||
Laska New member Post Number: 1 Registered: 05-2005 |
I am interested in positron,love,nature.Largely me in own line everything about loves.Not long ago am found out as though am intuitive weigh that hardly anybody has such possibility see it what action about us.Sometimes behind - me goes people who are hereafter and request me about help find spiritual beings .I have got like all quick beings on whole planet.Is that a perhaps five years what am saw overhead special phenomenon was it large white - hot ball and as I at it watched so it suddenly in advance quickly disappeared I think as though it was perhaps some ufo and since me in own line everything about ufa also at him I trust . | |||
Darrend New member Post Number: 3 Registered: 08-2004 |
About UFO sightings, you should watch this: http://uploads.abovetopsecret.com/Prophet_UFO.asf ABCnews 13's news segment documenting a man, able to reveal UFO's in the sky, or "Summon" them, and he says they are everywhere up there. He did it "on demand", they picked the time, he choose the spot. Judge yourself, I for one see no reason why they would fake a thing like this, then again who knows. Here is another link: http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread143300/pg1 Which includes a few more links to other places and audio files. | |||
Elvis Member Post Number: 9 Registered: 09-2005 |
I find it interesting that the Pleadians would state through Billy or to Billy as quoted by Jay in the above post of June 6, 2004, where it is stated that most of the sightings seen here in the US are anti-gravity propulsion systems being tested here. When I was having my sightings back in the last half of the decade of the 90's one thing that was continually impressed upon me was that I was seeing ships that were "our own people". But something inside me just could not believe or except this. At least not in the present sense. I believe we are seeing ships that are being currently developed by our own people from the future who have made some sort of arrangement with the Pleadians in the future but not in the present. | |||
Phil638 Member Post Number: 140 Registered: 07-2004 |
hi elvis, the ships are not developed from the future dude. Their probably not all that hard to fabricate either. We should've all been flying around in them decades ago if it wasn't for all these corrupt goverments worried about the petroleum industry going broke over it. phil | |||
Barbarotico Member Post Number: 10 Registered: 12-2005 |
I had extraterrestrial experiences. But if I put the details here, maybe you will think that I'm crazy or something like that. | |||
Isabellacoca New member Post Number: 3 Registered: 10-2005 |
hello everyone, just like UFO's are the northern lights. at first in the early 18th to 19th to 20th century, and now the 21st, people have seen UFO's in the northern part of the country and was told several years later(from studies) that the lights and spots and other things were really the northern lights. but what about the rest of the country and the whole world? it's not the northern lights. it's something out there. that's why we came up with UFO's(unidentified objects). in addition,barbarotico , u should not feel that about yourself. u r not crazy. everyone has something to say, opinions, opinions based on fact, facts, theories, and such. i used to feel the same exact way u did. in fact i'm really young in age, 18. so i still have middle and high school years fresh in my mind. all my schooling days, i lived by the principle "what if?" it affected my social life, the way i dress, everything. i became so low in self-esteem and confidence that i can't even count how many times i tried to end my life. i am not saying it's what ur thinking, but i am just giving u encouragement to express yourself. it is a gift. so use it. remember, "with great power comes great responsibility"-quote from spiderman1. so please tell us what u were going to say if u don't mind. if u still feel uncomfortable, u can just tell me then or somebody you're not afraid to talk to. now i'm not saying you're afraid or anything. back to the UFO's. i've never seen them but they do exist. i mean, look at us. we are not the only inteliggent species out of the whole universe. there's billions and billions of gallaxies and wow, our galaxy is the only one with intelligent life. now is that oblivious to the fact that there's more in the other many many galaxies out there than just us? maybe they want to talk to us. scientists right now r working on this right now as i type. | |||
Barbarotico Member Post Number: 14 Registered: 12-2005 |
What happened to me begin in month 2 or 3 of the year 1995. and that not affacted me, only that the people don't believe me. The strange of the situation is that on that occassion I saw the type-2 pleiadean beamship with antenna without never seen that prototype of ship before. How one can see a type of ship without never have seen that prototype before and some years later to see that ship in internet? Is obvious for me that that was not an allusination. | |||
Barbarotico Member Post Number: 15 Registered: 12-2005 |
Ok, I will put this things that happened to me from the years 1995 to the year 2005. I don't drink, I don't use drugs and I don't have mental illness and I never believed in ufos. First experience: In February of 1995 I lived in an apartment and in the morning of that day I saw a silvery ship with a golden bottom and orange small windows. The ship produced a similar sound like the sound you had recorded. Then suddenly I felt floating in the air and I felt as if they wanted to kidnap me because I was aproaching to the ship floating. I falled in great terror and before blacked out due to the terror they leave me and sudenly dissappear like a gost. This was the first time that I saw a machine like that so clouse to me. The ship was exactly like one of the ships you saw. In that time in particular the extraterrestrial subject was of not interest for me inclussive I saw that subject as something false and ridiculous. Note: In 1995 I had not knowledge about the cases of Billy Meyer and obviously I had not knowledge of the pleiadean flying saucer. (I believe that this was real) Second experience: This time I was living in a house and I had knowledge of extraterrestrial subject and knowlende about the case of Billy Meier. In a night of December 2003 I was with my brother at the backyard of my house hearing radio and looking the stars. My brother told me that a fixed "star" started to move, and when a saw the star I saw that the star was moving slowly to the SW. I stand-up and I done signals with my hands to the stars as a joke and treating to get the attention. What happened the next morning was something incredible. At 6:00am I was awaken by sounds behind the windows of my bedroom, I hared a sound like the sound from the ship recorded by Billy Meyer, also I hared voices of men outside behind the windows of my bedroom speaking a strange language. And a Woman sat in my bed where I was sleeping!!! The woman had an athletic body with long blond hair and blue eyes, and had a tight-fitting black suit to her body, the suit had a violet stripe along the arms and legs, and I saw a violet triangle at the left side of her chest, I don't remember well but I think that the triangle had the vertex pointing down. In the begining I though that she was my sister, I was surprised because my sister have long black hair and not blond hair. I touched her and she stand-up with a jump looking at me steadily as she sat on the bed where my brother was sleeping and moving slowly her head up and down as an affirmation of their existence, I don't know... When I touched her I sense her hair and the back of her suit. everything was so real. The surprise was so big for me that I become spechless. This happen to me after I begin to meditate below a piramid. After that I not remember more. Third experience: The next history happened to me with the same type of "human ET". In a morning (approximately the 8:00am) of this year 2005 I was kidnapped by a ship "or at least I think that". This ship was a big saucer with many lights around it and something like a canon in the bottom around the center of the ship. Light flashes make me awaken in the middle of the climbing and I was climbing at tremendous speed. I saw the earth as it becomes smaller and smaller. I only saw the bottom of the ship because I was closed in something like an energetic bubble and that bubble was climbing in a beam of light at tremendous speed. When I saw, there where 2 Nordic peoples with tight-fitted black suit, a woman and a man waiting for me inside of the ship around the center. When I was approaching to the ship I lost the consciousness and I recovered the consciousness again in a round corridor.I go inside of a round conference room and there where 7 earth peoples like me in pajamas and interior clothes. There where a Nordic ET woman wearing a black suit between us, the woman greet all of us and then she go to sit down in a chair of the room. One of the earth peoples approached me and told me that we are there because they (the ETs) will speak something important to all earth peoples that are present there. After that I lost the consciousness. I think that the ETs erased my memory of the conference because something happened there. And I knew some "ET Peoples" as if I know them from some place. As you say we can't contact ETs with the evolutionary levels of the pleiadeans. But I supose that exist others ETs that are near our evolutionary levels or more evolved but not at the levels of pleiadeans and those Ets can contact peoples from earth without protection. | |||
Barbarotico Member Post Number: 16 Registered: 12-2005 |
Another experience, when I was a boy of 12 years old, I lived in a small to medium size town. I was studying in a shcool that was in the border of the town, behind the school there where a soccer camp and behind the soccer camp there where a plantation of cane so big that it lost in the horizon. I was studying with some other children at the night time because we had problems in some academic subjects. The school at the night had some lights turned on, the light of the salon class and one light on the outside, but behind the school all was very dark. I was playing with the other children near the soccer camp. All childrens go runing to the school and I was the last one of them. Sudenly I falled paralized over the grass for about 25 or 30 seconds. I was struggling with my body in panic treatening to recover the movements but all was inutil. Until sudenly I can move my body after 25 to 30 seconds. I never forget that experience, and I think that has something to do with the other experiences that happened in 1995. | |||
Isabellacoca New member Post Number: 4 Registered: 10-2005 |
to barbarotico, your experiences are very extraterrestial in my point of view and i wish i could have at least experienced one. however i have a question about the incident when you were twelve years old. but before i ask you, when i was in the tenth grade, three years ago, i experienced something that sounds just like the one when u were twelve. i was in the kitchen drinking a can of pepsi when all of a sudden i dropped to my knees and was in an extreme crouching position where i was paralized and could not move. i did manage to put the can of pepsi on the counter just as i came down to my knees. in rettrospect, i wish the can would have dropped so that my mom could have ran to find me. well anyways while i was crouching, double bent over and grinding my teeth in pain, i was trying to makle the pain go away. i was clutching my heart and then i realized, like in thee movies, people who have a heart attack is supposed to be on their backs. it took me a while to do that and when i did i gasped for air. now i have recently found that my little experience was not a heart attack or even heart burn but something associated with heart burn. now back to you. when you experienced that at twelve, do u remember clucthing on to yourself in pain, or was u gasping? it might have been what i experienced. - just a thought. i do believe everything u say, i just wondering about the time when u were twelve b/c i experienced the same thing. if u were excercising alot on that day or drinkling something fast then that was it, otherwise, it was an extraterrestial experience or something going with your body unknown. i enjoyed reading your experiences | |||
Barbarotico Member Post Number: 19 Registered: 12-2005 |
Only I falled in my kneeks on the grass and with my hands on the grass, I had no pain, I was not tired and I was not gasping. I just began to run in that instant to the fence that divide the backyard of the school, and when I go back th the group of childrens, only me falled to the grass. All the boys can go back to the school, less me. I stayed there for 25 to 30 secconds in the midle of the darkness of the night. The time was 9:00pm, and at that time that was an extremelly solitary place. Another interesting things is that in those sugar cane plantations I saw very big circles between the canes. In some ufo videos from the nasa I have seen the same type of ship that kidnap me, and with the same canon below. In the video I saw the ship very far away below the orbit of the shuttle, the ET ship was with the bottom in direction to the space and the dome in derection to the earth. I had others vague experience when I was a boy of 4 to 5 years. but is so vague that I can't confirm that. I only remember that I had at the bathroom with 2 person that was not of my family every body was sleeping and all was dark, I think that was about 2:30 am One of the person that carry me was a woman and the other was a man who pricked the heel of my foot. I remember that my brother was worried beside the hand washer, scared and callin for mom. I only corroborate this vague incident because may brother told me this incident many years later and made me to remember more details. And I think that the nordic man that I feel as if I know him from some place whas the same man that prick my heel when I was boy. Now I think that they was follow me from my childhood, who know why. | |||
Isabellacoca Member Post Number: 5 Registered: 10-2005 |
wow. well i had this other experience, besides the incident with the pepsi, except for this was something beyond extraordinary. some people might not believe this. i was 7 years old when i was still in my country, romania, and i just started living with my real mom for the first time since i was 2 years old. it was coming towards the end of summer. i only remember that day being extremely hot. i was walking with my mom somewhere when i started complaining outloud how hot and sticky it was. suddenly i couldn't take it anymore and something in me exploded. i had then suddenly yelled outloud," i wish it was winter" the following morning or it might have been that same day, there was a very serious blizzard. we already had 2 feet of snow and by the time the snow blizzard ended it was even more and it was so icy, everyone had a pair of socks outside their shoes on each shoe to keep from slipping. i still think about it today. i once told a psychic about it when i was sixteen(2years ago) and she told me i was a gypsie. who knows? and another time i was in kindergarten, me and my classmates, ten of them including me played a game where 5 people get chosen to staqnd in the midle with eyes closed. we had to stand and be perfectly still. we couldn't move our closed eyes or we go to the jail(imaginary). well when the leader came to inspect each of us something weird happened to me. i felt in total peace. kind of airborne if that's the right word. tranluscent. like i was floating. i ended up winning the game. another time, which was not on my part, it was a saturday and it was a hot day for april. the next day we had a blizzard. this was in woburn, massachussets. i remember getting a cold from that change in weather. i had other things happen to me like when i was in a orphange, this kid pushed me over a 10 foot wall and i fell on my back on concrete. i got up and walked away as if nothing happened. i was 5 or 6 years old at the time. sometimes i think something spiritual caught me at the last minute. i don't know if any of these were extraterrestial but they were weird. | |||
Consolato Member Post Number: 100 Registered: 10-2005 |
I wish I had an ET visitation to have an examination done on me, so I could then ask the ET's as a return favour for what they did to me, if they could please drop me off on planet Erra. Con | |||
Stephen New member Post Number: 1 Registered: 06-2006 |
Greetings again all! It's been a while for me here. Since my last post, i've been doing a lot of thinking and working on some income.. I'm on track now and still developing the ESP more and more everyday!! I do still have strange paranormal phenomena happening around me, just the other day at the beach, two saucers flew right by me, right above the water on the shore line at lightning speeds! At that moment, I was alone doing some heavy thinking about loved ones who just passed away... So---I am going to try and get my experiences and the truth from a youngster out to the world by getting published somehow. What ya'll think my chances are of getting an arcticle in UFO magazine??? ____(MTBstephen) | |||
Ardie Member Post Number: 18 Registered: 02-2000 |
Just curious...About 6 years ago, my son and I saw an airplane fly over our house, which was in a remote area. We both looked up and noticed it's strange shape. I was thinking that the airplane was flying backwards, and at the same time, my son said out loud that "the stupid plane is flying backwards". It was making an engine noise (not silent) and looked about the size of a large private aircraft. It was flying fairly low. Average speed. It was sleek and modern looking. I will attempt to attach a simple drawing of it to this post. I've searched the Internet for unusual aircraft designs and found some, but nothing very close to this. Has anyone ever seen or heard of an airplane that appears to be flying backwards? I did find a couple of comments on forums a few years ago from people who saw backwards flying airplanes, but no other information on them. Ardie
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Scott Moderator Post Number: 823 Registered: 12-1999 |
Hi Ardie, It could have been a Vari-Eze, which appears to fly backwards. It has the engine in the rear and the main wing sits to the rear of the pilot. The front wing is called a Canard.  Scott | |||
Ardie Member Post Number: 18 Registered: 02-2000 |
Hi Scott, That is getting pretty close. The way I remember it though, it was bigger and longer. I don't remember the front wings (canard) being that long either. But, it has been a long time. I've looked through Burt Rutan's pictures of experimental aircraft and didn't come up with anything as close as what you've shown me. Thanks, Ardie | |||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 824 Registered: 12-1999 |
Hi Ardie, Without digressing too much there is also an experimental aircraft/ultralight named the Goldwing which sort of fits the description. I used to fly an ultralight/experimental aircraft with the same wing configuration, but it didn't have an enclosed canopy, so I don't think it fits what you saw.... Scott | |||
Ardie Member Post Number: 19 Registered: 02-2000 |
Hi Scott, I remember it having a long, sleek look like a jet, so I looked up Lear jets and the body is more similar to what I remember seeing. There was no tail going up that I remember. Just two sets of wings. It just didn't look like your average airplane. I've always wondered what it was. I probably should have called the local city airports and asked them about it. Ardie | |||
Jo_jo Member Post Number: 172 Registered: 04-2003 |
Ardie, A couple months ago I saw a TV documentary on a Burt Rutan designed plane much like you described, called the Starship. It is longer than the model posted by Scott and is driven by two pusher turboprops. Apparently there are four of them still currently active. Well, one day about a week after seeing the documentary I was outside on my lunch break playing basketball under a clear blue sky. I heard a somewhat strange aircraft noise and looked around to see what it was. To my absolute amazement it was a Starship. It was flying at only a couple thousand feet so was easy to identify. What was also distinctive was the noise it made (it didn’t sound like a small jet or prop plane) and the speed it was traveling (much faster than a single engine prop). I’m sure I’d still be intrigued by what it was had I not seen the documentary. Here’s a link to a page with photos of various Starships. Hope it helps. http://www.bobscherer.com/Pages/Starship.htm | |||
Ardie Member Post Number: 20 Registered: 02-2000 |
Jo_jo, Thanks for pointing that one out to me. It may very well be what I saw, even though it isn't exactly how I remember it. Like I said, it's been quite a while since I saw it. It seems like the odds of seeing one would be pretty slim if there are only 4 working models! The one I saw was in Northern Idaho. Salome, Ardie | |||
Cpl Member Post Number: 139 Registered: 08-2004 |
Hi Consolato, I had an ET (for want of a better word) examination contact, and it didn't work as you wish. I asked if we could communicate and one, maybe a leader, said, "You cannot comprehend," (I think they meant the language as theirs was different, the ones doing the examining couldn't speak English). They immediately switched my consciousness off like flicking a light switch. I woke up with a glorious golden explosion of light in my head. Apart from that all I had a was a scoop to show for it. Who they were and what exactly they did can only be specualted on. The end of the experience was beautiful so I don't think they were negative types. They obviously cared about how I felt. I wish we could have cmmunicated, but as Billy says, these are "examination contacts" and there is no two-way communication going on in them, at least that we are aware of. Best, cpl | |||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 825 Registered: 12-1999 |
Hi Cpl, Not to invalidate your experience, but please read the latest bulletin: http://www.figu.org/de/figu/bulletin/s25/the_newest.htm Scott | |||
Matt Member Post Number: 38 Registered: 04-2006 |
Cpl, you must have accidently confused one of your dreams with reality. | |||
Norm Member Post Number: 899 Registered: 02-2000 |
I'm shocked that they now say the Hills are fakes, what about Betty's star map Etc. Dan Fry is now a Giza contactee. It would have been nice to know that years ago. Reinhold Schmidt, they said at one time was a just faker, but in reality was a Giza Contactee, A lot of us figured that out years ago when we read Schmidt's book & he talked about going under the Giza Pyramids & saw the cross & jewels. I wish they would have told us about Earth bound groups like the Blue race & Hyperboreans & whether they have craft or not. I had a feeling the Ps were trying to control the traffic coming to earth. I wonder how many were on their way here only to be told it would be better if they didn't. It almost seems like they have an iron grip on us & are directing our future. I knew when they left for a while it because of another et group heading our way. But they must have said back off. If the Worlds Gov'ts aren't worried about those few ufos, what are they worried about all these years. The whole ufo topic must be disinfo for their secret saucer projects. My Website | |||
Peter_brodowski Member Post Number: 122 Registered: 01-2004 |
hey norm, i too often ponder the deciscions and motives of the plejarens... it seems to me that as highly evolved as they are, and for all there precise calculations etc. they seem to over look things or never take into consideration, things that an earth human (being raised in earth society) would think or consider. it seems to me like we're just a piece of there past that they want to correct, their way, not the most efficient way necesarilly, but whatever suits them. they never tell us answers, but always lead us to them, like you said "seems like they have an iron grip on us & are directing our future" although i think at the same time that they are helping and propably mean well through there "guidance". i would like to mention morals and ethics... plejarens banish adulterers, yet at the same time, they know full well that a race of people wanted to come and butcher us all and take shelter on earth, so the plejarens offered to find them another uninhabited planet rather than deprting them in a manner like the giza int. a couple bullets billy's way and the giza guys are banished to fend for thmselves... a civilization (if at all civilized) can come and threaten genocide on a global scale, and th plejarens offer them a planet all their own, as if a race of people who wasted there own dear planets are worthy of obtaining a new one, jsut to keep the ocean waves calm. am i the only one who thinks there is something really MESSED UP about that? i often become happy when i look at the plejarens and other races of humans etc, and it fills me with joy to know i am who i am, and by being here on earth you get to see the things about people like plejarens that maybe they dont see. they walk among us without our knowledge, cloaked with invisibility technology or whatever... i wonder how a plejaren would react of he/she/they found out some higher form of life has been sneaking around on their planet, reading their thoughs, anylizing and judging them? in conclusion, i am saying that although i think well of the plejarens... i am amazed at how ignorant they are. even i cannot say that they are ignorant because i dont know for sure. but at the same time , the picture that is painted in my head is that they do overlook many things. perhaps they have such high confidence in their evolutionary level that sometimes common sens slip there mind. they admit to not being perfect, and there actions scream it out , in my opinion. or am i wrong? am i jumping to conclusions? it's hard not to jump toconclusions when nobody wants to give an answer to our questions. man i hope somebody, some-thing, some collective energy is out there keeping tabs on the plejarens. it's quite upsetting to think that higher evolved peoples can just open your mind and read thrugh your most secret thoughts and memories and/or consider wiping them out at times. what set of rules or guidelines or codes of conduct do the plejarens live by? specifically? i would'nt mind knowing. i wonder if the plejarens take anything for granted? perhaps for their next experiment or mission they should live as humans on earth, in the guise of an earth born city person. what conclusions would they come too then? if they have time to walk around with made-up eyes and wander our streets or hills, wont they make some time aside for perhaps reading this message board and meditating on some of the things we say? or is our degree of wisdom to low to give them suggestions, or are we to low in evolution to be their examples at times? it seems like the more evolved you get, the greater the F-up's become. we are a perfect example of that. moderator, i just wanted to make sure norm read this, i realize this is the ufo sightins section, do what you gotta do with this post, put it in another section, but just so norm can read it okay, thank you. | |||
Matt Member Post Number: 39 Registered: 04-2006 |
I think the P's should have gotten rid of the giza intelligence's 2 thousand years ago. Immannuels spirit teachings wouldn't have been falsified and twisted around, we probably wouldn't have had WW1 and WW2, and we probably also wouldn't be in the apocaliptic situation that we are in today too. The Plejarens say that most primitive/infant civilisations out in the cosmos are protected by an advanced ET race looking over them, by protecting them against any bad ET race that wants to control or hurt them. Getting rid of the Giza intelligences 2000 years ago would've have been the greatest help the P's could have done for us, and also would've have made Billy's and their mission so much easier too. I don't understand why the P's never did this. | |||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 826 Registered: 12-1999 |
Hi, I don't get it, you can't have it both ways, people complain the Plejarens haven't done this or that, or they complain how much they are controlling us...which is it?....maybe Billy and Jmmanuel and all the prophets should have left us all alone, I wonder what kind of shape we would be in now???........sure we wouldn't have the Christians and the Muslims, but maybe we would be under the dictates of Jehova...wouldn't that be sweet!!!!!!!!! | |||
Junior Member Post Number: 89 Registered: 12-2004 |
Hi Peter_brodowski, You got a few interesting points, but I wish to comment on a couple of them… When you say “i wonder how a plejaren would react of he/she/they found out some higher form of life has been sneaking around on their planet, reading their thoughs, anylizing and judging them?” The Plejarens don’t usually read people’s mind or their past or their future on an individual basis, there are only a few small exception. From what I understand is they always analyze a group of people or the whole population for a specific thought and not on an individual level. Like for example humanity’s views on the existence of ET’s And what would make you say “it's quite upsetting to think that higher evolved peoples can just open your mind and read thrugh your most secret thoughts and memories and/or consider wiping them out at times.” If you have the technology then a lot of things are possible but if you don’t have the appropriate spiritual level then a person is more likely to miss use it… As for the last point you asked “what set of rules or guidelines or codes of conduct do the plejarens live by?” It’s the law of creation that they follow, as we are told that they have millions of pages of the creational laws, similar to the book OM. Regards, Peace to all, and one Love Junior | |||
Junior Member Post Number: 90 Registered: 12-2004 |
Hi Matt, Just couple of thought that might answer your question, It is one way to see a point from your view, why didn’t the Plejarens help us back then. Why not see it as they wanted us to learn a lesson the hard way, to make sure that not after they help us we would be doing the same thing 500 or 1000 years after that, I don’t remember any specific point that related the falsification of the TJ as being the result of the Giza Intelligence, rather it the fault of the primitive mind of people at that time, and the hunger for power. Its like once a child puts his hand on something hot he is most likely not going to do it again. It is our job to solve our issues, so we learn from it. And not get every thing on a silver plate. Regards, Peace to all, and one Love Junior | |||
Matt Member Post Number: 41 Registered: 04-2006 |
Scott, I'm not saying that the P's shouldn't have been helping, guiding or controlling us. What I'm saying is if the P's were the advanced ET race that has been helping/protecting and looking after us since biblical times, then why didn't they get rid of the Giza intelligences 2000 years ago, instead of just now recently after the Giza's had already messed us all up? 2000 years ago, the P's were able to look into the future, and surely they would've been able to see all the strife that the Giza intelligences had led the world into. | |||
Tjames Member Post Number: 188 Registered: 12-2004 |
Or smashing our heads on rocks for some god, oh wait were still doing that... in the holy land Salome gam nan been urrda gan njjber hasala hesporona! | |||
Cpl Member Post Number: 140 Registered: 08-2004 |
Hi Scott, Thanks for that link. Very interesting, in many ways. So, if the Ps were fooled by Earth people's stories of UFOs for decades they can hardly blame earth people for being so fooled -- assuming they are. Roswell "was another and special case" with "bioorganic androids". What about the Kingman, Arizona case? It is almost certain that was another of the "bioorganic android" or actual ET cases. It seems the doctors who performed those autopsies were interviewed by Stringfield. They drew a picture of the hand for him. Many assume this crash retrieval was from Roswell, but if you check out the details it is virtually certain it was at Kingman, Arizona in 1953 (or an even earlier one in 1951) and these "androids", if that is what they were, were slightly different in form from the Roswell androids. Quite frankly, it is pretty much a toss up who one is going to believe, if anyone. The Ps that have shown they can have their own agenda (I'm not necessarily against that -- they might consider such critical for their mission) but it does mean I cannot just accept at face value what they say, especially when they admit to being fooled by people of the earth for decades. Personally I'm not interested in believing either. It's a wonderful exercise in discernment. An experience cannot be invalidated only the interpretation of what it was. So, Matt, allow me to clarify my experience, as far as is possible. You are quite right that a dream was involved, but there was a part -- the biggest part for me, of course -- that wasn't a dream at all for sleep was then over. It began in a dream, and in this dream I somehow "knew" that some ETs were in a craft overhead. I telepathically said to the being in the craft, "If you are good beings, let us talk." A very alien type voice then repled, "You cannot comprehend." Up to this point I am indeed dreaming, and thank you for calling on me to clarify this, Matt. The next thing that happened may have been in the dream or may not have. I really don't know. This is becasue my consciousness was completely turned off like a lightswitch was flicked. I have a lot of dream recall but I've never had any dream or any waking time when I have experienced such a full and absolute immediate click in consciousness. It's quite different from just fainting, which I did experience once. You could be right that this bit was just a part of the dream too, but to me it seemed to stretch way across the level of the subconscious mind and or dreaming into my conscious mind as well. I can still recall this experience as clearly as if it just happened so unique it has been in my life. After this there is absolutely no recall of anything -- a complete blank, until I woke up quite awake -- here the dream ends, of course -- from a blinding flash of glorious golden light that was actually ecstatic. The room was pulsing slowly with a golden glow in the semi darkness. The room itself was not literallly glowing, as I knew this was a beautiful inner energy just vibrating from within that I was looking through. It was a very forceful and powerful experience, not something passive, and it seemed to have originated from a greater power than myself -- like something external had acted upon me. Wondering what had happened, and suspecting an examination contact (due to the nature of the dream which was my last recollection) I noticed a severe itching over my little finger knuckle. Looking at it, I was amazed to see a perfectly formed scoop. There was no flesh remnant, no tear or evidence of tear, and the sides were absolutely clear and smooth. Around it the flesh was red, sore and itchy. Actually it had a strange tingling, itchy sensation to it unlike any itch or bite I've ever had, and there was an almost medical, or sterile, anticeptic atmosphere or sense around it as I peared closely. As I watched, the hollow scoop filled up with clear liquid and not a trace of blood, indicating that it was fresh and new, as indeed it looked. The scoop went down seemingly near to the knucklebone. The most logical conclusion to me was, and is, that I had had an examination contact by some kind of android, and that is what I have assumed, though, of course, I do not specifically know that. I am open to any suggestion, as a possibility, that better fits the facts experienced. I noted the time exactly, and went to see an astrologer friend at his shop, showed him the scoop, which amazed him, and had him draw up a chart for the time I woke up and chart it backwards. The most remarkable part of this experience for me, Matt, is upon and after waking -- dreams are far more illussive things to fully understand. To suggest the whole experience was nothing but a dream would be to deny the physical reality -- something I cannot do. But the whole experence was indeed a mixture of the two. Some dreams are mere fantasies, but others are hidden and cloaked versions of reality. There are so many different kinds of dreams that to say something is or "was a dream" or "just a dream" is to provide no real answer at all. As for the Hills now being deceived, including the Ps, of course, what about her star map? Her dress with burns in it, and all the other evidence? Quite frankly, this is asking people to believe a bit much without providing evidence. I tend to side with physical evidence rather than hearsay. Still, there are many mysteries in this area that remain unknown or unknowable at present. Including the exact nature of my experience. Who or what was doing what? I have my suspicions, but to actually know the whole truth devoid of believe...ah, there's the rub. cpl | |||
Norm Member Post Number: 901 Registered: 02-2000 |
"i would like to mention morals and ethics... plejarens banish adulterers, yet at the same time, they know full well that a race of people wanted to come and butcher us all and take shelter on earth, so the plejarens offered to find them another uninhabited planet rather than deprting them in a manner like the giza int. a couple bullets billy's way and the giza guys are banished to fend for thmselves... a civilization (if at all civilized) can come and threaten genocide on a global scale, and th plejarens offer them a planet all their own, as if a race of people who wasted there own dear planets are worthy of obtaining a new one, jsut to keep the ocean waves calm. am i the only one who thinks there is something really MESSED UP about that? I agree, The only way I can answer that if the fact that Giza was considered an Earth Race. Since they were here such a long time. But I do agree they should have removed them many years ago. "I wonder what kind of shape we would be in now???........sure we wouldn't have the Christians and the Muslims, but maybe we would be under the dictates of Jehova...wouldn't that be sweet!!!!!!!!!" If Jehova was not here to begin with we would be in much better shape. I still believe that if no Et involvement & I mean None, Zero. Then Earth humans would have evolved on their own just like some of the other billions of Et Ur races that made it, so to speak. I still think we could have evolved with out Et help. Remember they are here cleaning up their mess, the so-called original sin.  My Website | |||
Matt Member Post Number: 43 Registered: 04-2006 |
Hi Cpl, so you acknowledged that the ET experience you had there was nothing more then a dream, and you say that the only thing or proof that you have there which leads you to believe that you were ACTUALLY abducted by ET's that night, is that you noticed a mysterious scoop of skin missing from your knuckle? If all that happened to me that night, I wouldn't believe that I was actually abducted by aliens simply because I had a dream and then couldn't account for a mysterious small scoop of skin missing from one of my fingers. I would just leave it at that, having a dream and then being a mysterious case of what happened to my finger. But if that is what actually happened to you there that night, I don't really blame you for believing that you were abducted by aliens for examination purposes, because of how you got some form of physical proof on your body. But now in light after what Ptaah had just come out and clearly said in the contact note, I think that you should consider now that you weren't abducted by ET's. I say this only because I believe that if the Plejarens say that that is what the truth is there, concerning alien abductions, then that is exactly what I believe is the truth there. Billy summed it up perfectly about all that Ptaah had to say there about the reason why the Plejarens were mislead about the truth of alien abduction issue - Ptaah: "And no more in conjunction with us has to be said regarding the tissue of lies of the alleged contact persons because the facts tell the whole story." Billy: "Yes I know, you have spoken clearly and precisely." | |||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 828 Registered: 12-1999 |
We need to get back to the topic which is UFO sightings (myself included)-Thanks | |||
Peter_brodowski Member Post Number: 123 Registered: 01-2004 |
hey jr. "The Plejarens don’t usually read people’s mind or their past or their future on an individual basis, there are only a few small exception." well, i cant be sure of what you wrote. i dont watch ad monitor plejarens, therefore i dont know how they do their surveys and expiriments etc. neither do you. also, they find anylizing the "phenomenon" of women getting breast implants, important, and then out of all the info they could give us after they've done their investigations, they choose to tell us how many women according to them had legitamite reasons for the implants, and why others didnt. what is it about that that interests them and what is it that drives them to share this finding with us earth humans? "As for the last point you asked “what set of rules or guidelines or codes of conduct do the plejarens live by?” It’s the law of creation that they follow, as we are told that they have millions of pages of the creational laws, similar to the book OM." yes, i could have told myself that. maybe my question was'nt specific enough. no problem though. the plejarens say they are not allowed to coerce people to truth, but then what do they say about pushing visiting races looking for contact with us... and convincing them not to. seems like the plejarens like to get into everybodies business, but when it comes to the creator overlords or whatever theyre called, they want to avoid them. when will we earth people have a say in our future? yet at the same time i realize the plejarens propably have a good grasp on the situation and know what they are doing... as for being on topic... this past month i must have had 10 ufo sightings at least. sometimes they are solid large white lights, other times they look as if they are high altitude airplanes. on more than one occaasion i had caught one of these crafts shooting a blue light beam at my face/forehead. sometimes there is manuevers and light flashes as if putting on some show, and a little while after i bad mouthed the army and secrets ops etc, i found myself being followed by guys in black trucks with faces that said "im gonna kill you". i have had strange phonecalls that have shown that somebody is/ was watching whatever i do... when nobody knew where i was or what i was doing. one time not to long ago i got a funny feeling like i often do when something is about to go down, i thought to myself "is there anybody watching me? yes, they are but they are just hiding so i cant see them" then all of a sudden, after coming to that conclusion, a light appears in the sky and flies a certain direction for a certain amount of time then fades away. then for the next 2-3 days, this thing follows me around to wherever i go. has anybody had any interesting or similar things happen? note to moderator: i wont carry on with the ethics discussion, i'll stick to sightings, so please kindly do not take out the first part of this post okay? thanks | |||
Norm Member Post Number: 903 Registered: 02-2000 |
Question is, who made the Roswell Crash Androids? My Website | |||
Cpl Member Post Number: 147 Registered: 08-2004 |
Good question, Norm. Why not ask Billy? Though I doubt he's asked the ps. | |||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 238 Registered: 07-2005 |
To Peter Are you for real?????? Sorry for doubting but paranoia has a very uncanny way of creeping behind you and biting your ass when least expected. Often the questions that seems legitimate to us at the time becomes all the more silly after we have further digested and learnt more of what was necessary to get an overall view rather than just what we could see at the time which then arises within us the compunction to ask in frustration rather than to question our overall level of understanding that is often not at all enough to truly give ourselves the satisfaction of a confident answers to which everyone can agree on, on the basis of logicality but ofcourse it's not to say that we shouldn't attempt to answer our own queries even if it's limited at best, time and a bit of work seems to have this resolving, clarifying, amending, re-emphasising, reviewing, progressing and adding effect as the mind evolves to a better state of understanding in proportion to the effort expanded in any endeavour of study including this. cheers | |||
Norm Member Post Number: 910 Registered: 02-2000 |
Cpl, Go for it I justed asked my question for this round. My Website | |||
Peter_brodowski Member Post Number: 129 Registered: 01-2004 |
newinitiation, hello doubt me all you want. the universe is my witness, i dont intend to convince you of anything. i'm here sharing bits of my evolving life with others who perhaps may find some bit of interesting stuff to think about. one thought leads to another. who is paranoid, me? i have no reason to be paranoid, but i do have reason to be weary. i'm not sure what you are getting at, if you mean that the more you read of what i write, the more convinced you are that im some nut or whatever... well good for you. what is it you hope to accomplish with your last reply? are you trying to give me advice? if you have something very specific to say, say it... wether it's in regards to ufo sightings or whatever i wrote. if you are doubting that i met some men in a black truck, and the preceeding feelings i had etc. and all the rest... why waste your time thinking about it? do you doubt that i see as many ufos or lights in the sky as i claim? i wish i had some money so icould fly you down here and show you these things. if i was bold and careless enough, i would even stir up some trouble with the army again and all the other goons pulling strings. and lure them out to show you how real this is. i dont take offense to your post(s), just to make that clear. in anycase you are not the first to cast your shadow of doubt, but that's fine with me, i know where i stand. what do you want, somekind of proof? i'll tell you what... if you can find me a decent program to edit quicktime movie files, then i will send you one or two, one having a silver object appear in a couple spots. the quality is no where near meiers, but it is good enough. do you want to go that far into this? i dont wish to be somekind of person with ufo pictures to share etc. but maybe it will give me some credit in the minds of some people who for whatever reason, feel they need to tell me how they doubt my claims. let me know what you want, if nothing more than to shoot the breeze. thank you for your opin | |||
Ardie Member Post Number: 21 Registered: 02-2000 |
Norm, Where did you hear that the Hills' abduction account is fake? I just received the new 4 hour UFO conference DVDs and watched it. They say that it is one of 2 or 3 true abductions. Has something newer just come out on that? Ardie | |||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 833 Registered: 12-1999 |
Hi Ardie, Try checking the main FIGU website, a new article was posted last week. Scott | |||
Norm Member Post Number: 917 Registered: 02-2000 |
I do recall Meier saying there was ET life on Zeta Reticuli. My Website | |||
Jacobus New member Post Number: 1 Registered: 07-2006 |
This pic I took with my digital camera about a year ago. If you take the original image and zoom in, a faint, I don't know what you can call it,sort of shock wave can be seen at the front of the flying disc. If anyboady is interested, well just tell me you want to check out the original. The reactions of the people i show this to are quite strange indeed. It's not that they don't believe it's true, it's something els. Funny thing is, I showed this pic to one of my father's friends, a professor, who as far as i could tell, was definately having an internal struggle of some sort. At the end he said what i expected of him to say, that it was a comet... well, a very well polished comet I should say.  | |||
Peter_brodowski Member Post Number: 139 Registered: 01-2004 |
hey jacobus, do you know where i can download a program that can take images (still images) from movie files? some pictures that i took also have strange "radiation" around the objects, or whatever. and i got a couple of pretty clear shots. i cant fit them on this website so i would need to take still pictures from the movie file. do you know of any reliable programs? i am eager to share my videos, just to see what it can lead to. thanks. | |||
Jacobus New member Post Number: 1 Registered: 07-2006 |
Hi Pete, maybe somebody els can help you out with that one, the net is still a bit new to me. But anyway, you say you got a couple ,wow, talk about being in the right place at the right time! I just wonder to whom this beamship belongs to, you know, and why does the average person not give a fig wheather this is a true or forged photo? | |||
Junior Member Post Number: 93 Registered: 12-2004 |
Dear Peter, Regarding your question about a program, i found a program that should help you out, you can find it under... http://softwaredepo.com/download/sdav.exe I hope the moderators won't mind, if you have any problem with using the program just contact me on jr_beay@whoever.com I am also on msn just incase... using the same mentioned email... regards, jr. Peace to all, and one Love Junior | |||
Norm Member Post Number: 932 Registered: 02-2000 |
German UFO Flying Saucers Video, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1nJNNMOvC4 My Website | |||
Peter_brodowski Member Post Number: 140 Registered: 01-2004 |
thanks junior, i will check that out in the next day or so. if i have problems i'll be sure to send you an email. thanks | |||
Peter_brodowski Member Post Number: 142 Registered: 01-2004 |
hey junior, i cannot get my emails through to you, so i am just letting you know i have a problem with the program you suggested. it does'nt seem to work, they want me to buy there program. was it just the demo you were referring to or buying the program? | |||
Jo_jo Member Post Number: 179 Registered: 04-2003 |
Norm, It’s also suspicious that the “live” TV broadcast of man’s first steps on the moon was shot with a TV camera aimed at a monitor showing the feed from the moon/studio set. They spent millions of dollars and years developing a camera that could withstand the rigors of the moon, yet they couldn’t link that feed for direct broadcast. They have to film the images off a TV screen and then broadcast those degraded images. Sounds like they intentionally wanted degraded images so the public wouldn’t be able to discern their mischief. | |||
Junior Member Post Number: 95 Registered: 12-2004 |
Dear Peter, Sorry for the late reply, as far as I know the program is for free, at least it worked with me for free... I just noticed the email add i wrote is incorrect the correct one is jr_ba@whoever.com regards, jr Peace to all, and one Love Junior | |||
Peter_brodowski Member Post Number: 145 Registered: 01-2004 |
hey junior, no problem. i'll look into it again and try to see if it works. on a similair note, do you mind if i send you some of the video clips, check them out, look over them thoroughly and then let me know your opinions or if you spotted or noticed something particular, or somekind of pattern. i will try to chop the longer videos so that they are small enough to send through my email. i find that sometimes other people find what you miss. so if you want to check it out let me know. | |||
Junior Member Post Number: 96 Registered: 12-2004 |
Hey Peter, Yes I would like to check the clips out. Just contact me on my email. Even if there is a problem in sending or size issues I might be able to help out. regards, jr Peace to all, and one Love Junior | |||
Peter_brodowski Member Post Number: 146 Registered: 01-2004 |
hey jr, i had sent you about 10 emails, all with some clips, only to discover they could not reach your email adress. it seems the address is non existant, or i dont know what may be the case. tell you what if we cant figure this thing out in the next couple of days or so, i'll mail you a disc with all the clips on it, the longer ones too. i'd really like to hear other peoples observations of the contents in the film clips, so if i have to mail it out, i guess i will. do you not have a regular email account that you use? | |||
Kingman Member Post Number: 152 Registered: 07-2004 |
Peter, you can upload it to www.mooload.com it's totally free and easy up to 500mb, once you upload it a link is given that you can send to anyone you wish to see it I'm curious as well a friend in america Shawn | |||
Peter_brodowski Member Post Number: 147 Registered: 01-2004 |
hey kingman, thanks very much, on top of what i was in the process of doing, i will also post it up on www.mooload.com i will post back here to let those interested know that i have posted up the video clips, thanks. | |||
Peter_brodowski Member Post Number: 148 Registered: 01-2004 |
hello to everyone, if any of you have read any of my posts of the last month or two, you can see i claim "this and that" about seeing ufos, lights in the sky etc. basically it goes something like this... at practically any given moment, i can go outside and take a picture or record a video clip of ufo's or strange objects. up until today, i've never actually got any results from anything other than video recording. but tonight, at aroun 10:16 p.m pacific time, i managed to snap a couple of interesting shots. 1 set shows lights near stars changing there position after each photo, like a progression. so where one thing was before, it will be in another spot in the next shot. the images only capture pinpoint lights, but any body with half a brain can figure what needs to be figured out. those i will not post, because it's not very "exciting". but hopefully the pictures that i do post up are more suitable to stimulate ones thoughts and assumptions etc. i have many video clips to but i am experiencing great annoying difficulty in getting those shown to people. with that said, i would appreciate any comments. the images remind me of dorothy izzat and her experiences.     | |||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 257 Registered: 07-2005 |
G'day Peter Very interesting indeed I wonder whether they are ET in origin or terrestrial. It might be very difficult to answer such questions without the help of Billy. BTW what are these smoky, stringy things in the front? Anyway on some previous matters for which I left the dog lying quite fast asleep, lest it turned into something both of us didn't want it happen, I did doubt about the army personnels giving you that deadly look. Where and when have you seen them unless of course you happen to live very close to an army base or actually inside a compound, having something to do with one. On the matters of ufo sightings, some things just cannot be denied or explained away. Anyway I hope you can post some more of your pictures for the forum members here. My mind is definitely opened even though it originally was. Cheers | |||
Kingman Member Post Number: 155 Registered: 07-2004 |
Peter, Did you ever upload any video to mooload.com? If you did, the only way anyone can view it is when you post a link to the file that Mooload sets you up with after you finish sending your vid. I would like to view what you've been able to capture. Thanks! a friend in america Shawn | |||
Peter_brodowski Member Post Number: 148 Registered: 01-2004 |
hello newinitiation, i think there is a mis communication between you and i. this is a very "difficult" thing to prove, unless you are able to trace posting on the internet back to specific computers, inwhich case i am sure the army has that base already covered. if my posts are still up at plejarens are real and semjasebluestar, then just read my posts, and the events that happen in that forum right after. a clever person can solve a puzzle even when half the pieces are missing. with that said.... i dont know about anybody and their abilities other than me and my own. it works like this... i ask myself a question and i get an answer in the form of images appearing in my head space. if someone is going to lie to me, i know it before hand. if someone is watching me, i know they are and i know exactly where they are physically standing (if they are near by) or wherever they are situated. when something troublesome is about to happen, i will find out about it 20-30 minutes before it happens. let's just say i'm a very sensitive guy now with all that in mind, i'll say this... basically when i got into the meier case, i did'nt have any problems. it is only after i started claiming things about the army and secret services, that strange things started to happen to me. a while ago i stated somewhere that the army are a bunch of fools and so are all those think tank secret service goons. that's when some guy named "JOSE Alfredo", a man who apparently did'nt speak verygood english, liked race cars but posted a doctored photo of a man in a race car with a race car helmet on his head (this was at semjasebluestar) to this day i am quite confident that that jose alfredo is a middle aged caucasian male in his late 20's or early 30's, short dark hair, has a build like that of a soldier (buff). it's only after i called this jose guy out, that trouble began to brew. basically i stated that the army and secret services etc. are behind a lot of ufo sightings, and try to stir up trouble etc, things that all of us have heard before about the reality of ufo's. if the army denies or tries to play down the ufo phenomenon an dclaim they are not hidding any secrets, then why would they react to my assumptions etc? my brother was a witness to the guys pulling up in the black truck, and my brother was a witness to the poisoned pizza, from which i had some intense (to say the least) symptoms. i can't prove many things, but if you have common sense, you can possibly see what i mean. people dont get poisoned for shouting about a conspiracy etc, unless there truly is one. and for the record, because those clowns do read this forum, i'd like to say that by intimidating me, they have only shed more light on themselves, they've only brought heat onto themselves, not on me... i've been stuck up with guns and brawled with maniacs so a gun to my face is not a problem. you would think that an INTELIGENCE group would be inteligent, but they fell into my trap hook line and sinker. the easiest way to manipulate somebody is to understand the thinking patterns of that individual, i used to be into crime, so i understood criminals and police, i understand what selfish people desire, and so i know how to manipulate inteligence agents and army personel. i've been laughing for over 2 years now, they are one funny funny joke. sometime in the next months coming i will try to compile all my pictures and videos and set up a website, but i am not tech savy and i am not wealthy, so right now i'm just figuring stuff out, but if some people would be interested i wouldnt mind meeting in a group one day and have a field trip to some field or forest out of town and show people the things i see, which leads me to answer to this "I wonder whether they are ET in origin or terrestrial. It might be very difficult to answer such questions without the help of Billy. " just use common sense. and let me say this.... sometimes i see earth based craft, other times e.t. craft. and it's not only what you see outside you head in the heavens, but inside your head too. those smokey lines is in my opinion the result of a ufo doing a sequence of stops turns, light flashes etc, in such a fast speed that when the photo is taken, an image is produced by the trail of light patterns the ufo executed. they are doing a display. the patterns in those photo's strongly resemble and unknown writting that i had seen images of in visions and dreams. if you could read my dream journal, im sure there would be many things of interest for you. i'll try to get more photo's tonght | |||
Peter_brodowski Member Post Number: 149 Registered: 01-2004 |
hello kingman, okay, i will post the links here. i may have to repost everything a t mooload.com as i did not write down any of the links after i uploaded them. i will post the links here in no more than two days, sound good? you are welcome. also to new initiation.... just copy these photographs that i posted in my above post, and zoom in on them, then you will see the image in better detail. those are not the entire images either, i just chose the "best" part because the photo's would not fit on figu in their entire size. | |||
Peter_brodowski Member Post Number: 150 Registered: 01-2004 |
also newinitiation... sorry i did not put this in my longer post, but those two men in black were not like "MIB". they were two men in their early 30's to mid 40's, black generic sunglasses, long black beards, black shirts, driving an everyday black truck. what happend was that early that day i had a feeling that i would run into some trouble, sure enough half an hour later i seen to my left, the black truck pretty much pull to the curb quite rapidly and somewhat agressivly, as i have beenin dangerous situations before, i looked through their rear window and into their rear view mirror, catching a glimpse of the driver with his face looking in my direction. i got beside them and played "dumb" as if i did'nt think nothing of them... as i passed them i noted to my brothers who were with me that i smelled cheap cigars. i looked at them and they were looking right at me smoking their cigars, looking very much like a hell's angel biker or that kind of person. i looked away as not to cast suspiscion on me looking at them in the first place, and as soon as they seen i was'nt going to approach them, they sped of with a screech. i have hung around people who have killed other people over stupid things, i know the evil eye when i see it, even if there's glasses covering them. also there's been many other strange things too, but there's just too much to get into here. sorry moderator if my post does'nt fit the topic, well i think it does. i'm not trying to post in the wrong area or anything like that | |||
Norm Member Post Number: 981 Registered: 02-2000 |
I was always hoping a UFO would fly over New York & hover there for a few hours & then the world would be forced to admit that UFOs are real. But now after reading the bulletin 25 that will never happen unless the Plejarens let it. My Website | |||
Peter_brodowski Member Post Number: 151 Registered: 01-2004 |
well here's some more photo's which i took early in the a.m. of august 15th. i pointed the camera up to the sky and took consecutive shots of the same spot. out of about 50 shots, 3 turned up some results and the 4th also shows something i have never yet seen before. comments appreciated.      | |||
Peter_brodowski Member Post Number: 151 Registered: 01-2004 |
hey norm, well that's propably asking for a lot, but on the plus i would think that they are starting (they being whoever feels like letting us know we are not alone) to do demonstrations and appearences infront of many individuals. i think we are being preparred... for example: firstly, in my family it was only me seeing this stuff, then i showed my brother, then my younger brother, and even my mother although she didnt even see the clearly visible object. and i've heard of other people too, seeingthings and geting photo's etc. somekind of plan is being put into action, that's for sure. | |||
Peter_brodowski Member Post Number: 152 Registered: 01-2004 |
and here are the links to the video clips, altogether i have about 40 clips, but these are what i think are the more clear and or interesting ones. http://www.mooload.com/new/file.php?file=files/160806/1155692678/aug11+2+ufo%27s+diverge.mov http://www.mooload.com/new/file.php?file=files/160806/1155692957/aug11+another+very+good+ufo%2C+loop.mov http://www.mooload.com/new/file.php?file=files/160806/1155693354/aug11+good+clear+ufo+shots.mov http://www.mooload.com/new/file.php?file=files/160806/1155693689/aug11+ufo+from+behind+foreground.mov http://www.mooload.com/new/file.php?file=files/160806/1155693942/aug11ufo+crosses+a+flying+bird.mov http://www.mooload.com/new/file.php?file=files/160806/1155694234/aug+7+silver+ufo+in+top+corner.mov http://www.mooload.com/new/file.php?file=files/160806/1155694466/aug+7+ufo+trails+passing+bird.mov http://www.mooload.com/new/file.php?file=files/160806/1155694755/aug+11%2C+double+ufos.mov http://www.mooload.com/new/file.php?file=files/160806/1155694952/aug+13+wave+across+ufo.mov http://www.mooload.com/new/file.php?file=files/160806/1155695418/ufo+captured+on+video-jully+13+2006.mov | |||
Peter_brodowski Member Post Number: 154 Registered: 01-2004 |
hello everybody. i've been looking at the photo's and have noticed something... one of the light patterns seems to form the image of a face, similair to that of some kind of beast like creature, and the other one looks like somekind of robot with something protruding from it's back, while it bends over as if looking at some kind of animal or creature below. here's my drawings of those two pictures, does anybody else see some pictures within those light patterns?   | |||
Paul New member Post Number: 1 Registered: 08-2006 |
Hello everyone, This is my first post and first off would like to thank Scott for accepting me into this wonderful site. Now I would like to finally relate what happened to me in or on December to January of 1975. It was about 2200 hours central time in Kansas in a rural area of Kansas city. Myself and 2 friends were out when the entire area lit up like daylight. One of my friends, Doug, saw what appeared to be a strobe light type thing moving erratically. Between flashes this object move incredible distances in all directions. We followed in my moms mustang in a Northeasterly direction. When I felt the craft was moving out of our immediate sight I pulled the car up on a ravine and pointed the headlights up and in that direction. I then began flashing the lights very fast on and off. Instantaneously like wow the craft was diretly back hovering in one spot about 500 or more yards away and 1000 feet off the ground. Well my friends freaked out but I finally got them to shut up. I and only I exited the car and began to listen for sounds of engines. I heard nothing but the sound of water trickeling in the grader ditch next to me. We observed each other for 2 to 3 minutes when a car started up the hill towards me and an airplane enterd the contact area but way high. The craft then bliped horizontally over some tree tops but higher and vertically shot strait up. The only thing left in my field of vision was the purple negitive image left on my retinas. Now the real interesting fact is that years later a reunion of my friends produced no recollection for them but a memory for me as if it just happened. I can almost remember the smells and very clothes I was wearing. I also have a burning desire to know more. I reported this to no others except for my mother and very very close relatives. I hope my report is truly a contact and with all my heart hope that humankind realizes the severity of our planetary situation. I hope in what ever capacity I can be of assistance. Wow that felt good to tell others after 31 years who would understand. Thank you all again. Sincerely Paul | |||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 262 Registered: 07-2005 |
Dear Paul I sincerely hope you feel as welcome as the generous welcome you'll receive from all of us folks, who each have their own unique position here, that either through providence, found their way back home or have been prompted to do so. So welcome paul. btw it must have been a heavy burden all those years with scarce hearts and minds as well as ears for you to unload without the fear of ridicule hanging over your mind like a tonne of bricks. You have come to the right place and I hope that you sincerely find your place here. Cheers | |||
Edward Member Post Number: 647 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi All.... This image scan with a cover drawing (from 1948) of Kenneth Arnold's encounter with the objects, shows they were not fully disc-shaped but half-moon or with a cut-away. I was searching for another magazine cover which also illustrated a more clearer 'Delta-Wing' format but, it seems I may have seen that one outside my own library collect, thus...this image will have to do...to have an idea, that back then...was not really spoken of 'Fully Disc' shaped crafts. Edward.  | |||
Catsjam New member Post Number: 4 Registered: 08-2006 |
Date: Sep 10, 2006 9:27 PM I went in the back yard with my wife Nikki looking at our pumpkins and stuff then i took her back and as soon as I tried to show her where the UFO London and I saw was lastnight... WE SAW ANOTHER.. or the same UFO in broad daylight! Instead of a grey orb this time it had its sheilds off and we saw a white disk!!! SOoo awsome- They're watching over me people! Its no joke and I've got the two closest people I know to confirm it= No evidence yet for sceptics- Although I did run in to get my camera; I was too late tho cause we sat there in awe too long... It was just a dot when we were filming it to her. She pointed it out but I couln't see it after I came out with the cam- and I dont think the cam got it decent either= God im trying to count now this is like my 5th decent sighting. | |||
Gaiaguysnet Member Post Number: 298 Registered: 03-2004 |
There's a sketch made by K.A. himself here: www.gaiaguys.net/KArnoldDoc.jpg @ www.gaiaguys.net/ugfology.htm Funny. Semjase initially told Billy these craft were theirs. | |||
Peter_brodowski Member Post Number: 178 Registered: 01-2004 |
hello again, this is for anybody who is interested... once again (after having the impulse to just go out and take some pictures at the black sky) i have taken some digital camera photographs of some patterns like the ones i posted before up the page... this time as i was taking the pictures, i seen some extremely fast trails of silver/whitsh light, and what i assumed would appear in the photo's once again has turned out to be true. as somebody in the figu forum seems to think i am doing this for attention, i wont bother going into any detail, simply put... whenever i get some fresh photgraphs of this phenomenon, i will post it here, for people to look at and do with what they wish. hopefully somebody atleast finds it interesting or remotely useful          to moderator, i accidentally posted a double, can you please make sure you dont post the same one twice, thank you. i will be more careful next time there are stars that show that my camera is still when i take the photo, thus eliminating any possibility of somekind of effect i would get by shaking them camera etc. | |||
Markc Member Post Number: 371 Registered: 06-2000 |
Hi Peter ; Those are real interesting . Maybe you could find some way to boost the light signal ( decrease the dark) to bring out the images more . There are definite shapes there . I know nothing about photography , by the way . Regards , Mark Mark Campbell | |||
Melli Member Post Number: 151 Registered: 06-2005 |
Hi Peter, Indeed interesting pictures leading to interresting questions; when I see such photographs I immediately question what I see: WHO is behind this electrical phenomenon? I tend to think that most likely these flashes are not 'true' ET signals but rather covert occurences from who knows who and who knows for what reason? I might be wrong but from I understand our friends above are very careful not to be seen, and when they are seen they only show up for Billy, so WHO is making these light flashes? Also when people ring radio stations telling stories of seeing UFOs cigar shape and triangular crafts, then I have no doubt these are not true ETs, it's probably covert army exercise and it stirs people's mind a little...after all confusion must be instilled to create fear because truth is simpler than complicated lies. | |||
Peter_brodowski Member Post Number: 180 Registered: 01-2004 |
hello mark and melli, mark: the pictures , just incase you are wondering, were taking using "night time" mode on my digital camera. i tried inverting the colours but that does'nt reveal much (or atleast to me as i am no expert in photo analysis). i will mess around with the light/dark contrast and see what i can find. perhaps you may save the pictures and magnify them etc. and try your own experiments too, and we can share any interesting finds. melli: this time i wont be so defensive in my position about these photo's. but let me say this... the army only wishes they could pull those types of "displays" off, and they are propably counting on people assuming it's them doing the things in those photo's, and that's really all they can use to their advantage. your assumption that it is the army is a plus for the army. the problem here is this... i have two things to rely on, one being the photo's and my feelings at the time of taking the pictures, and the second thing is something that i will not mention because it will cause confusion and complicate this for some people. but if someone were to be aware of that 2nd point, then there would be no doubt in their minds as to the nature of this phenomenon. i think if somebody really anylizes the photo's they will find that the photo's contain more than enough information (just like my video's of various unknown objects in the daytime). i hope oneday i can present all my findings and points in relation to the above, as it would do much benefit to the whole truth about the army covering up the existance of e.t's and those things related to that topic. and i hope more people open up and put some trust in the unknown... imagine making the most difficult choice of your life no matter how scary it is, only to find that when you take that chance, you get everything you could ask for and more note: last night i took more photos' so i will post them up. oops, i guess i cant help not sitting back and keeping my opinions bottled up. | |||
Kingman Member Post Number: 167 Registered: 07-2004 |
Peter, There may exist the fact that your near or inline with an electro-magnetic, or some other undiscovered extra-dimensional, recurring, energy pathway/phenomena the planet is releasing, or being effected by. The idea that in an unplanned moment, decide you need to grab a camera and start shooting, makes me think you've tuned your sense's and are able to receive the events presence through this focus of yours. Maybe you could compile as many of the elements that have been present as you've been experiencing this strangeness. Post maybe times of events, weather conditions, electrical equipment in the area(unusual type), planet positions, noted world events, anything that you feel may help as a clue on narrowing down the options of this unknown anomaly. When you suspect something as it flashes across your inner thoughts, write it down. Try not to omit anything, your just describing the scene as a witness. It is something, and may have an explanation that is valuable for all we know. a friend in america Shawn | |||
Peter_brodowski Member Post Number: 181 Registered: 01-2004 |
hello shawn, extra-dimensional, that's a good description. some things i can't prove to you, but i have proven it to myself. it's like trying to prove to someone you had a dream about a cat. can you prove such a thing? i think that what you suggest is a great idea, but i wont put that effort into this for the following reasons... 1. everything anyone needs is in those pictures and in video clips that i can easily provide. it's not about wether you seen an alien or a simple light in the sky, it's what that light did or what the alien did not do. you know what i'm saying? take those photo's to an analysist, that's all you really need to get what your looking for. 2. i dont want to be a ufo case. i just want to help people see the reality of ufo's, e.t.'s, the black ops and their b.s. etc. in my own way 3. i have to put my focus onto the future. trust me when i say i have a plan that can span 50-100+ years, all in the name of truth, love and a better more caring world. and the above requires my focus and complete dedication. i have to think of the big picture, because this is very serious to me. in doing so i sacrifice many things. some years back while sitting out looking at the stars, i made a promise to change my life for the better, rather than doing selfish things i vowed to live life in the name of love and truth. i wished i could be given a chance to help change things for the better in my own way. for i constantly grew angry at the fact that i was'nt in a position of power to really change the world in love and peace, while those who can change the world sat around and lived the criminally ignorant "good life". after some years, i pieced some puzzles together and the chance i asked for came along. maybe posting this stuff here i might seem like somekind of hyped up nut, but that's far from the truth. i got a knack for stirring up the pot, so why waste the ability? if you really want a dose of reality, and see things for yourself, come down to my city and meet me. you wont ever look at life the same way. i'm no billy meier, but i am a human being, and i care about this earth and the people in it too. i've called out god's name many times and heard no reply, but as soon as i asked help from the universe, i found out that i have unknown friends who were always listening. i suggest you sit outside you r balcony or pation or porch sometime and strike a deal with the universe, you'll be surpirised who answers your cries and how you will be helped. i was raised to sleep in the vipers mouth, besides,,, what should i do the rest of my life... go to clubs and get hammered the rest of my life? sit and wonder about what could have been? you can get things a hundred times greater than photo's of lights and ufo's, all you got to do is run against the flowing river of modern society. | |||
Peter_brodowski Member Post Number: 182 Registered: 01-2004 |
oops, sorry but i could'nt post the latest photo's as for some reason they did not get through the figu forum's system. i will try to put them up in the next day or two. | |||
Junior Member Post Number: 107 Registered: 12-2004 |
Dear Melli, Regarding your above post 151 “I might be wrong but from I understand our friends above are very careful not to be seen, and when they are seen they only show up for Billy” In the beginning of the contacts they were very careful but things changed I am not sure about the date but there are many people that have witnessed the UFO’s some at the centre some where from the FIGU core group and some passive members, there was even an incident where they revealed them selves to an outsider that lived near Schmidrueti. Most are documented on the German Bulletins. Regards, Peace to all, and one Love Junior | |||
Melli Member Post Number: 152 Registered: 06-2005 |
HI Junior, OOOOOPSSSS, you are right I forgot to mention that there were many witnesses besides Billy, and yes it was a long time ago, but they won't do it any more and haven't done so for a long time so I wonder who are 'they' who keep creating such light flashes? After reading about Billy's experiences and as far as I can understand things are not always as they seem, but who am I to dispute what others see? I can't say for sure so I question. This is one instance where I believe Dyson could shed more 'light' on such a phenomenon. BTW the German Bulletins are very interesting to me, maybe if you have time you could explain some topics to us, those that are of a Neutral value as others could be very complicated I am sure? Just an idea ...... | |||
Smokeytbones New member Post Number: 1 Registered: 09-2006 |
i recently learned about billy meier (at least in detail) and about figu, because i have been digging around for information that might help me answer a few questions. a little over three years ago, on the quad at cu-boulder in colorado, i saw my first ufo, a black triangle type (i have seen several since), and, around that same time i began: a) receiving telepathic messages, b) experiencing several types of paranormal occurrences, and c) sending out "prophetic" emails to intelligence agencies worldwide. no kidding! needless to say, i sound like i'm crazy when i reveal this to others, and i certainly understand entirely when others need some sort of "proof" about my claims. i needed "proof" too, from the aliens, when all of this began to happen. at this time, i have had about seven major, unmistakable sightings, including one sighting where i saw an entire "host" of ufos over my head, blinking their lights on and off and zipping around at a high altitude. i am unsure whether this unusual (not of just one craft) sighting was of the so-called "black triangle" crafts, because all i could make out then (in salt lake city, of all places) was the host of lights behaving erratically. one interesting thing though - i "telepathed" back to the aliens something like "can you blink on and off?" before the ships began to do so. anyway... i have never seen an extraterrestrial, nor do i have any conscious recollection of being abducted. i have only had exactly two fairly vivid dreams involving aliens, and both involved different species of them. the first was of a short gray, and the second of something that scared the **** out of me and that resemled a cross between a praying mantis and a human. very scary. i would like to know if anyone out there would: a) help me identify the "species" of alien who fly the black triangles, and/or b) test my claims by writing down a meaningless series of nouns at home (i'll reply with whatever words "the voices", which term i hate to use because of its psychiatric connontations, tell me to reply with). also, because of my experiences [which are too bizarre to mention usually, but i'll go ahead and say that i've seen other humans and animals controlled "robotically", predicted events "cryptogrammatically" for intelligence agencies (notably, especially, the cia), been able to know weird things about strangers "psychically" like nicknames etc, and been able to predict peoples word and number combinations beforehand or after they wrote them down.] after that series of claims, anyone who reads this can be sure that either i am a lunatic and/or charlatan, or i am sane and serious!!! finally, i would like to know how i might contact mr meier himself, if possible, because i can communicate in the "we" (sorry... i know this is really weird) and i'd love to have a discussion with him using words that are telepathed to me. perhaps if i demonstrate some sort of paranormal phenomenon or something? smokey t bones | |||
Gaiaguysnet Member Post Number: 303 Registered: 03-2004 |
Hi there Smokeytbones, and welcome. (Hi Melli, Jr., et al!) I believe you. In my capacity as an Official Disclosure Project representative, I have heard similar first-hand reports. I think you might live a little too close to that damned hollow mountain the USAF has up there. There is a proven, very direct correlation between UFO sightings (etc.) and the proximity to super secret illegal (corporate, not “government”) bases housing electrogravitic vehicles, etc. These guys do like their triangles. (Think pyramids.) It's a huge dirty subject, but - in my informed opinion - I think you may be the subject of some nasty telenotic (mind control) shenanigans from the illegal Unacknowledged Special Access Projects. (USAP's) Please dig down through www.gaiaguys.net/ufology.htm for the free Disclosure Project literature, and also have a look at www.gaiaguys.net/Lammer.htm . There are also links to my own USAF experiences and one about those black triangles over the USA, etc. And please check out www.gaiaguys.net/disclosureIsrael.htm , being sure to read the chapter form Greer’s new book. I suppose I might as well grasp the nettle and mention this now ... I was a microwave (radar, to be exact) technician in the Air Force and I think the sort of modulated, microwave, line-of-sight, telenotic hanky-panky that these black triangles seem to be using on people could actually be very simply shielded by - wait for it - wearing a tin foil hat. (Which is why you don't use the stuff in a microwave oven and TV dishes are not in cellars.) (Stop laughing. This is serious. You have been programmed to scorn.) This is, of course, about as ridiculous SOUNDING as it gets, which is evidently exactly the intent of the UFO/Zionist/Freemason/CIA/pedophile conspirators. Who wants to be branded a paranoid nut? Cunning or what? Get used to it. Dear Melli, the FIGU bulletins and the contact note books have a lot of info and sometime photos of real ET spacecraft seen or photographed by independent witnesses as well as FIGU folks. So what? ;-) If Quetzal dropped by your place this arvo for a chat and a cuppa, would you race past him to look at the vehicle he drove up in? The Druanians, a "nice peaceful people" who recently joined the Plejaren Federation, seem to be the ones in the big featureless cylinders filmed (and publicly released) from the USSR’s Soyez spacecraft and their fighter aircraft, etc., but I think most of the stuff we see in the sky these days that we assume to be ET UFOs are USAP UFO’s, and often merely telenotic delusions/illusions or holographic projections (especially in the States!) as described recently by Ptaah. Good luck, Dyson | |||
Kingman Member Post Number: 181 Registered: 07-2004 |
Smokey's fishin' for the top prize in the "Stir up the Bee's" agenda. We really need to create a humor topic so all these comedian's can hone their skills with one another. My opinion, laughable. a friend in america Shawn | |||
Melli Member Post Number: 161 Registered: 06-2005 |
A couple of weeks ago when the Atlantis space shuttle was still in orbit, I heard on T.V. that a UFO was flying near by. The astronauts on board were concerned that a piece of something may have fallen off the outer layer of the shuttle, which would need to be repaired before returning to earth. Curious to know what actually happened? I was really excited to hear that such a revelation was broadcasted here in this 'secret country' of ours but I knew that it will not be repeated on the evening news, and it wasn't but it made my day none the less. I searched on NASA website for more information and naturally nothing significant was being reported. So, I am wondering and waiting to hear more info. about that UFO and if any of you here know anything about this incident I am sure it would be of great interest to us all. Dyson, you might be impressed with this just as I was mildly: a friend called especially to inform me that on Triple J there was an interview being conducted with an author called Timothy Good (?) who has written a book titled "Need to know" and soon to be released. I was tempted to call the station and correct the guy when he spoke about abductions but then I 'chickened out' because I am maybe 'too honest' for most and would have told them more truth about D/P and your website too. Have you heard about this man? P.S. Quetzal is most welcomed to drop in for a cuppa, plenty of space for his 'machine' to land in my green garden, and I make the best organic Spelt muffins in Melb. Between you and I, he looks a little like my hubby..(use to) except mine still has to wear a shirt and tie sometimes but the briefcase has been long replaced with a green lunchbox and filled with my delicious spelt muffin. (The world is so gloomy out there, people around me feel glum, agressive and sound so naive and stupid, so I need to lighten up a little. Cheers, | |||
Alan Member Post Number: 62 Registered: 06-2006 |
can one of the moderators please fix up this extra, extra wide page here so it is much easier to read? Thanks. Alan, It seems once an image is posted within a topic area, it changes the appearence of the entire topic page. The only way to change it is to remove the images, or shrink them down. Scott | |||
Peter_brodowski Member Post Number: 192 Registered: 01-2004 |
hey smokey bones, from what i understand the black triangles are earth based army aircraft. i have experienced similair things to what you mention, and in light of what dyson posted in his reply to you, i am as always re -assessing all my past experinces and sightings of various things etc. two nights ago after having a certain conversation over email with someone about ufo's, a helicopter (not the first timeA) was circling around my apartament over head for 15-20 minutes. as far as telenotic devices go, i dont know how much of a part they have played in my own sightings and picture taking of things, but i can say this... the other day i was in a subway when i all of asudden fell into a trance, it's similair to if you concentrate on something hard enough, you kind of feel like your "in the zone" or whatever. but then two things quickly popped into my head... 1.i thought "wait a minute, i didnt induce this state on myself 2. i recalled billy meiers statements that went somewhere along the lines of "as a rule the person will never know he or she is the victim of psychic maniulative forces" or something like that, i recalled what was said about john lennons killer and how he just went into this trance or whatever. oh well, one thing that can be said is when you cant trust your ears or eyes, you can sure as sunshine trust your dreams and visions. mind you, if some beings of high evolution, wether from outside earth or not, if they did a couple lights shows for you, it would be in the armies interest to fly over to you and do the same, causing confusion as to knowing which of the times were some advanced being, or simply army black ops. they cant stop what's going on but they can obscure the facts. i've had plenty of encounters with these army-types, it helps to just follow your gut. imagine being able to manipulate someone's views on a particular subject with simple actions like showing up at the right place right time, saying certain things after certain events etc. if i were a black ops guy, i would use every low, below the belt method to get my objectives completed, sometimes you dont need to go below the belt, but rather above the eyes. | |||
Melli Member Post Number: 163 Registered: 06-2005 |
Some may choose not to take the foil issue seriously, but I also heard this from an israeli guy when I asked him as to why some items just seem to vanish of my computer? he said line your roof with tin foil, I wonder what would happen then would I see sparks flying in the sky? Spy satelite technology is so advanced and weird and scary that just thinking of its capabilities sends shivers down my spine, rather not know because then I would want to know even more.... Have you heard of HAARP, It's science gone out of control | |||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 281 Registered: 07-2005 |
G'day forum members It was very interesting to hear Dyson talk about the tin foil as a good material to combat any intrusions to our minds with telenotic devices that would somehow use electromanetic, micro-wave, very shortwave length signals or what not to induce delusions in people. So further to this topic, I was wondering whether tin foil is of any use in diverting all other noisy signals that are about everywhere in this modern society. Would this material help a little in diverting intrusive signals being bombarded everywhere, if for example, we use this stuff to cover the internal side of the roof in our houses and cars? Or if for example, somebody covered their heads with tin foil whilst meditating thereby preventing any excess noise from entering the head and making the meditative process much more effective? Any thoughts anybody? Cheers Matt | |||
Gaiaguysnet Member Post Number: 307 Registered: 03-2004 |
G'day, Matt, (Very quickly) Please don't overrate tinfoil hats. They are best employed as a bold fashion statement announcing the wearers' paranoia, and I think have only very narrow technical applications. Mircowaves are only one of many ways the Mafiaocracy messes with their victims' minds. TV is more dangerous. Then there's the (fake ET abduction related) monitoring, and/or influencing, cranial microchip implants. :-( Watch how child-killer zombies surface right on time as unbelievably evil (literally!) political distractions from Washington's most recent Elite Untouchable Pedophile scandal cover-up, or war-related massacre of undersupported western troops. (In that vein, please read (my old war-buddy) Rico Vicino's opinion piece: "DOGFIGHT" @http://ricovicino.tripod.com/a_second_opinion.htm) So if anybody wants to line their roof, better to use better thermal insulation. And use knowledge to insulate your mind from interference. In haste, D | |||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 912 Registered: 12-1999 |
Please let's get back to the topic | |||
Rarena Member Post Number: 99 Registered: 10-2005 |
Hi Peter, Regarding your UFO pics. I took one of them and enhanced, and tweeked them bringing up the resolution and they look like natural vibrational pictures of stars with maybe the wind or walking near the tripod with long exposure. Was this the case?  | |||
Peter_brodowski Member Post Number: 216 Registered: 01-2004 |
hey rarena, i too carefully considered that they might be stars.... after zooming in on them, i realized... why would those stars be obscured like that, and not all the others... you see the pics here on figu are only portions of the entire photo, i could not post the entire photo as it was too big. i am no expert, but from what i can tell, in those pictures i have stars that can be seen when you zoom in on the photo, and they have no "tracers", no indication of the camera moving. the camera could move slightly as i press the shutter release, but this digital camera can be shook wildly and still take clear crisp, unobscured photo's. there is one photo that seems to have something interesting in it, in that the light pattern seems to appear in different parts of the picture but as a darkish "copy" of the blue light pattern. i am no expert in photo analysis but i dont have money to be sending these photo's to profesionals. so there's that interesting bit which i can not deal with yet. if you like i can send you the entire photographs, if they fit through my email system. i simply act on an impulse and go outside onto my balcony, i point the camera in a direction where i have very many times (as much as 6 times in the expanse of 10 minutes) seen white lights in the sky zig zagging, abruptly changing direction without noticably turning (like an airplane would). there was a week or two where pretty much every night at around 10-11:30 p.m. i would go out on my balcony and look out at the sky. i simply ask myself "i wonder if anybody is out there" and within moments, sometimes immedietly, these "silver/white lights" would appear and head from south to north, always heading to the same direction, then minutes later they would head back the way they came, sometimes they would one after another simply go north, without going back south the same way. so it's not simply that i got pictures of these blue light tracks, but also i see many "strange" lights in the sky. and in the day i have recorded silver orbs etc. so what you make of it is up to you, but just keep all the above in mind. | |||
Rarena Member Post Number: 100 Registered: 10-2005 |
Hi Peter, Jim Dilettoso http://www.villagelabs.com/has his own web site (check Google) and he was the guy who is spoken of analysing Billy's photos with the watchful eye of Wendelle Stevens and FIGU.org. Jim knows far more than I when it comes to photo analysis. Another thing to be aware of is heat and moisture in the atmosphere causing photo anomolies. Not to detract from your sitings, as it has been my pleasure to see UFO's as well and a couple of anomolies. Once the obvious possiblities are ruled out more serious study can begin. Take care, RArena |
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