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    Technod Member Post Number: 25 Registered: 07-2003 |
good mornin, About this incomeing glacier period Samjase warns of, was there more info on weather this was natrual ocurrence or hand made.There are some blowing horns that say climate change is a natrual event .wheather or not we are appling gas to a slow burning fire would help with the situation.sorry I would think by checking ones own energy cunsumption and releying the benefits technology "or the market"is offering at this time would be a good start at showing concern for our surroundings. brian | |||
Tjames Member Post Number: 109 Registered: 12-2004 |
Hello Brian, Sorry for the delay, I didn't see your response soon enough, and I had to re-discover my source of information. I gather that "because a new glacial period unavoidably approaches", which, indicates to me that it is one of those natural events on this planet that we have to succomb to if we want to survive on this mossy blue ball. And, yes I definitely agree that checking into new forms of technology is a major step which, by the way the mayor of my town in Columbus, Ohio as I read today in the local paper that Ohio's government officials are debating whether to invest heavily in research for alternative fuels like fuel cells. The other side of the coin is they are talking about gathering more oil from Canada, more local refineries to boost local economy. Can you believe that after our mess in the middle east, and Hurricane Katrina nearly devastating our oil infastructure in Louisiana, they want to break environmental laws that were so valiantly fought for in 1976 to cease oil refineries in the U.S. and drill more oil, which may not even see beneficial production, meanwhile destroying local Alaskan forrest, lakes, and all other significant land types. Promise? Yeah or Neah check this out: http://world.honda.com/FuelCell/ Saalome, Tim | |||
Technod Member Post Number: 26 Registered: 07-2003 |
hi,Tim yeah ,a personal power plant so now if friends and family follow suite then one could be able to travel fairly freely. recently i watched a docu.i think it was pbs that the big oil have been dicussing ways to boost profits from as far back as 93 and that they bought up refineries to close down so that they created there own bottle neck .so yea sure a properly placed storm could profit a few and i think they were all sitting in front of our government a few weeks ago wining and crying about a lack of refineries and explaining that with these huge profits that they will bring the price down in the future. I do wonder were Iraq`s oil goes i also heard that in some places/nations oil iss dirt cheap and that oil produced here in america was sometimes going there . Seems to me that these big oils hold the keys to the economy and americas Pocket. so mabey it was just me but i didnt hear much about this 911 style hearing. the glacier period not slowly but unavoidably approaches didnt i read somthing about poles shifting i wonder if unavoidably means this is something we need to be aware of.the causes for a pole shift would be interesting too and not too mention the melting taking place at increasing rates and what effects that would have on shacky shaft i wish i had a file discussing past pole shifts that the ancient`s filed. peace b brian | |||
Tjames Member Post Number: 32 Registered: 12-2004 |
Hello Everyone! Does anyone have knowledge about the popular theory of Global warming? I just heard a claim that the secondary theory of the Gulf Stream slowing down to a stop being inevitable is completely false. Breakfornews.com counterclaims the primary theory backed by Art Bell and Whitney Strieber's (a fake ufo experience i might add) claim of Global Warming affecting the melting of Greenland as well as the worlds glacier which in turn (supposidly) slows down and eventually will stop the "Jet Stream". Does anyone know the truth of Global Warming? I have also heard that the green house gas carbon Dioxide is not a green house gas at all and the warming of the planet is just a natural fluxuation of the Earth's cycles. Either way, I would just like to get down to the root of the matter through the truth. Thanks interested individuals, Salome Tim James | |||
Memo00 Member Post Number: 137 Registered: 03-2004 |
hi TJ global warming is a reality and according to some scientists (if things continue as today) in just something like 30 years ALL the coasts of the entire planet will dissapear, many many islands will sink and other terrible things (supposedly almost all Canada and other places will dissapear under the sea) there are some computer made images of this, if my memory doesn´t fail me they were made by the NASA, and i dont know why the f... this kind of things are not in the news!!!, (does somebody else have seen this images??? and/or know where we can see them???, i saw them here in México in Jaime Maussan´s tv show presented by a guy called Rodolfo Garrido who among many many other things have good friends and contacts in the NASA) it is true that the sun plays a big role (the activity of the sun is increasing) but it is NOT true that global warming is only "natural" usually the people that claim this are irresponsible scientists that do not care about life (just like when other "experts" claim that overpopulation is not a problem) | |||
Tjames Member Post Number: 37 Registered: 12-2004 |
Thank You Memo, Your'e probably right about this. I have seen and heard alot of good research... well actually very few on the opposing side of Global warming but for it many. If i remember correctly I saw some sattelite images of our ozone layer and how that is affected by our idiocy here on earth. They were pictures comparing 1970's to the late 80's which was in (exaderating) Randolph Winters movie "The Pleiadian Connection". But, this threat is real. As far as global warming is concerned i remember reading some material in "And Yet the Fly" about the Temperature "Falling Overall" this due to the sun's declining fusion. This, not taking full effect for a little while .... maybe not until 3700 AD. This was mentioned in the book as the "Nocturnal Dawning" very scary stuff about artifical suns we WILL create that will scorch the Earth. Nevertheless, we should improvise and should learn how to exist tranquilly within our surroundings so that we don't kill each other or our planet for that matter. If what our scientists have been saying for the past 3 decades is true, a full thanks to Billy and the Plejaren efforts first must be given for releasing this imperative information first, but secondly this imply's that "Time is of the Essence". And every tank of fuel is just as important as the last just as every child born consumes even more. We must learn to reason! I'm planning on printing thousands of Overpopulation pamphlets and giving them out or maybe sell them for a nominal fee. Any thoughts???? Salome, Tim James | |||
David_chance Member Post Number: 62 Registered: 03-2003 |
Hi Memo, These probably aren't the images you're referring to, but I think they illustrate the point: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/warming/waterworld/ David | |||
Cpl Member Post Number: 89 Registered: 08-2004 |
Have Billy and the Plejarens said anything about any countries sinking beneath the oceans and/or others rising? Anything about so-called Atlantis rising? Thanks. | |||
Eric_drouin Member Post Number: 75 Registered: 05-2004 |
Hello everyone Just sharing some thought: The root cause of global warming is the earth human overpopulation (also cause of so many other problems) The root cause of overpopulation is religion. The religions can prosper within population that lack spiritual knowledge. Therefore to focus on spiritual values and non-distorted teaching now available should be a priority for our environment, global warming, pollution, ozone layer etc... Logical, ins`t? Global warming has been confirmed again 2-3 weeks ago by international scientists. Only the Christian fundamentalists deny this, the fact man is responssible for its own problems instead of God or Satan doesn`t match their Amrageddon insane theories. Peace Eric | |||
Edward Member Post Number: 510 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi Tim and All.. Here is, somewhat more Scientifical explanations, on the facts of Global Warming and so forth..in details. And Billy making the information known and it's Consequences. Eduard Meier made copies of that message and sent one to Michael McElroy at the address provided by those ET' visitors. He never heard from McElroy, but his letter never came back either. He also sent copies to the Secretary General of the United Nations, and to various Departments of his own government and to various local newspapers. None of them ever responded to any attempts at follow-up. In response to subsequent questions by Meier, the ET's added the following information: The industrial gasses most concerned are heavy and rise slowly, some taking years to reach the ozone layer. They pick up one or more ions from the ozone belt and, changing chemistry as well as weight. slowly fall back to the surface, carrying the ions with them. This had gone on since the beginning of our industrial age, but has been increasing on a sine scale with our rapid rate of industrialization, and the further contamination by vehicles of all kinds and most disastrously jet aircraft. This was announced to Meier in early 1975, and back then they said that they measured over 6% loss present, not counting the dangerous gasses already rising, some of which would take years to get there. They estimated that if we were able to stop ALL contamination at that time, the rising gasses could deplete the ionosphere by another 10% or more, enough to produce mutations in all living things! We did not stop. We did not even pay any attention to the warning. Consider now the following information extracted from Science News, Vol. 129, No. 9, 1986: "Ozone, the atmospheric chemical that shields earth life from harmful ultraviolet radiation, has had a volatile political and scientific history. Battles have been waged over the extent to which chloroflourocarbons (CFCs) and other chemicals injected into the atmosphere, primarily by human endeavors, attack the cosmic layer (SN: 9/14/B5, p165). Predictions of the resultant ozone depletion occurring globally in the next century have ranged from 3 to 18 percent as scientists work to unravel the mind-boggling complexity of atmospheric chemistry (SN:4/12/82, p244)." "But as researchers have pored over the data in search of very subtle annual changes in global ozone chemistry, they have failed to notice that the South Pole's ozone concentration during October has dropped much more drastically -- by 40 percent since the mid-1970s." "Scientists now know that an "ozone hole" looms over the entire continent of Antarctica every October and has been getting more severe every year." "This effect was "totally unexpected", says atmospheric scientist Richard Stolarski of the NASA Goddard Space Flight Center inGreenbelt, Maryland. The big question now, he stresses, is whether the effect is a forewarning of a significant change in global ozone, or simply an isolated scientific curiosity." "The chemistry of the ozone layer worldwide is also plagued by uncertainties. But as the recent NASA report concludes, researchers now have compelling observational evidence that trace gasses other than CGCs - such as methane, nitrous oxide and carbon monoxide - are increasing on a global scale (SN: 5/18/85, p308). And scientists now realize that the trace gasses affecting ozone chemistry are the same as those that contribute to or alter the greenhouse warming of the planet; the two problems are intimately coupled." "The report, to which 150 scientists from 11 nations contributed, concludes: 'Given what we know about the ozone and trace-gas-climate problems, we should recognize that we are conducting one giant experiment on a global scale by increasing the concentrations of trace gasses in the atmosphere without knowing the environmental consequences." That report was accompanied by a sequence of six color maps made by the Total Ozone Mapping Spectraneter (TOMS) on the polar-orbiting Nimbus-7 Satellite launched by NASA in 1978 (three years after the Pleiadian warning). They clearly show a six-fold increase in the size of the ozone hole at the South Pole from 1979 through 1984. If this is not cause for alarm, nothing is... But that is not all the harm being done. If we need confirmation, we need only turn to an article, "The Dark Side of the Sun", on page 6O of NEWSWEEK for June 9, 1986, where they show that melanoma (skin cancer) has increased tenfold since 1930 (early in the industrialization of this planet). Since 1930, the lifetime incidence of this form of skin cancer has gone from 1 in every 1,500 people to 1 in every 150, the tenfold increase, and mostly in the last 10 years. As the South Pole faces toward the sun, the North Pole lies in darkness. Therefore, the negative, unassembled particles in the upper atmosphere will tend to "settle in" near the North Pole, and will assemble with positive ion there. When once again the North Pole faces toward the sun, the resulting negative plasma will be forced to the surface of Earth. Our calculations indicate that in the early months of 1987, a hole in the ionosphere will be found to have appeared over the North Pole. Some of the results of this disruption of the ionosphere will have immediate effects. For instance, as great shells of this negative plasma are pushed into existing shells of plasma, very adverse and abnormal weather conditions will be experienced world wide. In areas where the ionosphere is thicker, there will be an over filtering of solar energy, causing a reduction of sunlight available on earth and a subsequent increase in rainfall. In areas where the ionosphere has thinned, expect severe heat waves and drought conditions. Also, iron deposits attract these negative particles of mass and energy, and so areas with large deposits of iron can expect drastic changes in their weather cycles. A less immediate effect of this attraction to iron deposits will be that life forms in these areas will experience genetic changes, and an alarming increase in birth defects will be seen in these areas. Likewise, incidents of cancer and other diseases related to a breakdown in immune system activities will be noted. As the destruction of the ionosphere continues, more drastic effects will be observed. For example, as these undetected particles of mass and energy are accepted at the poles (and elsewhere) they will undoubtedly result in an increase in the energy exchange of our planet. This will cause an increase in the rotation rate of the Earth. At first this increase will be considered a negligible factor, but the increase will be progressive, and will eventually result in the earth changing it's orbit. The elliptic will increase, and the Earth will begin it's drift away from the sun. The increase in energy exchange will also 'wheat" up the interior of our planet, resulting in great internal pressure. This pressure will be released in the form of great earthquakes and increasingly greater volcanic actions. The end result of these actions will be great continental shifts, and areas lying along existing fault lines will be at great risk. This increase in energy exchange will also cause a warming of the earth's surface, and the polar ice caps will begin to melt. Coastline areas will begin to disappear. Hope this clarifies the matters.... Edward. | |||
Tjames Member Post Number: 39 Registered: 12-2004 |
Thank You Very Much Edward, This clarifies many things for me. Thanks again, but this also begs many others to follow not necessarily to you but to all of us number one What steps can we take to COUNTER these atrocities??? You already said that Meier has pushed real hard on the doors of the politicians.. Or at-least as hard as he could push with all of his work related tasks and worries about his safety and all. So we can deduce that our Governments well know aobut all of these issues and they are simply ignorant of our industrial consequenses, whether it be direct or indirect ignorance, intentional or unintentional. This begs a huge question about what we are supposed to do! We know Meier and the FIGU have taken specific efforts to combat idiocy squared (mathematically) but I know his entire efforts carry with them a monumental goal of inspiring the truth into all of us by means of attractiveness under his definitions and the Plejaren so that humans can reason. He's here so that we can be here, healthy and in good standing position in the long run. The peace meditation is SO POWERFUL, Respecting your bro and sis is so important doing unto others like you would want done to you is so important and we can do these things. All we need is reason!! So why am I saying all of this? Well why are we involved in the FIGU? I feel because we actually care about the world we will leave for our grandchildrens grandchildren. So how do we do it? Michael Horns DVD suggest we LEAD THE LEADERS. Obviously a few letters is not getting to them and I'm thinking this has to be done first before we can correct alot of the ills on this planet so we need think of something real and of something NOW. Billy's message is for the long term... and sometimes for the long term things must be done speedily. So long, it's time for the peace meditation. Creation speed, Tim James | |||
Eric_drouin Member Post Number: 76 Registered: 05-2004 |
Hi everyone: Global Warming is for more than just the ozone layer destruction. Again, this is just a constatation. 7.5 billion people currently living on earth IS the main contributor of the so called Green house effect, therefore putting pressure on earth ecosystem: 1) all those people that must be clothed, fed (lot of animals must be raised to produce meat) 2) over-exploitation of resources needed to produce food and goods (fishing until there no fish in oceans, hunting until extinction of species, energy, usage of chemicals in agriculture, exploitation of humans in third world to produce coffee, banana, sugar, etc etc....). Over Exploitation of water = desertification 3) 7.5 billions humans (and so much more animals: cows, sheeps hens, etc) emitting CO2 every time they breath. 4) Methods used to increase productivity in agriculture increase significantly methane emission, which is a far more contributor than CO2 itself in the green house effect (i read somewhere methane is 100 times worse than CO2) 5)increase usage of fossile-based energy to meet all the above, plus to maintain the level of comfort of western countries all those SUV that Americans and Canadians love so much 6) Effect of HAARP and other secret military project on atmosphere?... etc. etc. etc. etc. See link: http://www.newscientist.com/channel/earth/dn7321 Peace. Eric | |||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 635 Registered: 07-2000 |
The protective ozone layer over the Arctic has thinned this winter to the lowest levels since records began, alarming scientists who believed it had begun to heal..... www.guardian.co.uk/uk_new...e_continue Scott | |||
Tjames Member Post Number: 47 Registered: 12-2004 |
Hi everyone Our automobiles ravage this planet in ways from everything to the air to water to the ground so the best thing to do is develop clean enviornmental friendly Powerful and fun to drive machines....but until we do this check out the gas milaege this Honda gets..... 120 miles a gallon and cryogenically frozen parts to last nearly 1 million miles on the road! http://www.kfor.com/Global/story.asp?s=3390503 | |||
Ascension Member Post Number: 9 Registered: 11-2004 |
Hi. I believe that overpopulation should be the main target to help our planet carry all of our burdens, we should focus on how we can prevent that because it will have a cascade affect on all of the other mentionted problems. maybe things like investing into contraceptive companies, pushing save sex and responsible parenthood in less developed countries. I doubt I will have children because I dont even come close to the guidelines that billy put out. I hope many of you will take the same choice. | |||
Norm Member Post Number: 711 Registered: 02-2000 |
Ascension, The Birthrate in the Western World has been steadily going down. The problem is in the Third World. The Overpopulation in the Third world is spilling into the Western World through Illegal Immigration. That why you see the Populations levels still rising in the Western World. The whole world will collapse if nothing is done in the Third World. That's why I've joined these groups. Everyone needs to work with organizations that wants to limit the World Wide Birthrate and stop Illegal Immigration. http://www.numbersusa.com http://www.populationconnection.org http://www.fairus.org http://www.susps.org | |||
Ascension Member Post Number: 10 Registered: 11-2004 |
Thats not completely true. The entire western sphere is still in numbers greater than what the planet can sustain. The poorer countries are have explosive growth and we are just above the limit for the whole planet, so yes it is still a problem and we must start to bring our standard of life to the rest of the world quickly in order to stem the growth. | |||
Jo_jo Member Post Number: 40 Registered: 04-2003 |
"we must start to bring our standard of life to the rest of the world quickly in order to stem the growth" How will raising the standard of living in the Third World stem growth? Is the population explosion in the Third World a result of poverty and poor living conditions? | |||
Norm Member Post Number: 714 Registered: 02-2000 |
"Thats not completely true. The entire western sphere is still in numbers greater than what the planet can sustain." Whats not true? I didn't say anything about the West being at the perect population level. I was just saying where the main population growth is. | |||
Ascension Member Post Number: 11 Registered: 11-2004 |
The standard of life is the direct recipient of low population growth. Every country with high standard of life has much slower growth. So yes, poorer people have more children because they are poor. They wand kids to help feed themselfs and also when there older and there kids have kids. Its an ancient system in almost every culture to have many children because its profitfull. Well you said exactly that the third world is the problem is the third world. sorry it doesnt matter, I didnt know what you meant.   | |||
Jo_jo Member Post Number: 43 Registered: 04-2003 |
Its an ancient system in almost every culture to have many children because its profitfull. If having many children is profitable, then why aren't the third world countries with exploding population growth more wealthy? Certain former communist countries with low standard of living have very low population growth. For instance, East Germany had lower population growth than West Germany. I think the more important factor in controlling population growth is EDUCATION, not wealth or standard of living. | |||
Ascension Member Post Number: 12 Registered: 11-2004 |
because of globalization. theres not enough jobs for everyone. Also because of corruption, trade teriffs, wars and such. China right now is getting alot of money just from cheap workers. I bet those kids getting the good jobs now are goinhg to spend alot on their parents. | |||
Edward Member Post Number: 511 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi ALL.. Speaking of Overpopulation. Well, in some countries it is forbidden to feed any type of wild life. What is the case: The more visitors and tourists feed the wild life, the more Overpopulated the animals become. And the More animals there are...the more Clashes manifest between the animals themselves!! And they all want to CLAIM the Territory boundaries. And thus, here form Generates...More WARS against each other! And it seems, the wild life even Attack humans, more than usually! Thus, the (Final) Solution was: to "Stagnate" All Feeding processes to the Wild Life forms...and let NATURE take over the Process(ing) anew, as Intended, from the beginning of Nature's Existence. And if a great number of wild life forms are to die, by lack of food or other needs, So Be It (as long as this does not become an extinct manifestation). This Processing has Always been in Existence, and thus this/such "NATURAL" Processing should Proceed further as from the beginning of her Existence...without any human intervention(Feeding)! Does this above mentioned Scenario not sound Familiar??? Yes, of course it does. It sounds like the SAME Scenario...WE...Humans on Earth are in, NOW! Even though we humans, that Assist the Overpopulated third world countries with the massive humanitarian Food Help, we are Also Assisting such a Scenario to manifest as the above mentioned. And of course, this Scenario has already manifested it's self..since many decades now, or even since CENTURIES! So, the more we Assist the above mentioned countries, the more "CHAOS" it will Generate for generations to come...alas to say. Even though, the Assistance is well meant. But, it is in every human beings "NATURE" to Assist his Fellow Human Being when, and if this is possible. As, even...the Plejarans and Co Also let Manifest....towards us Earthly Human Beings. So, One would think that the Solution Not to feed the Third world countries would let Nature take its True Course of Existence to Balance itself back into it's UR "Equilibrium", of Peace and Harmony, to Sustain it's Creational Values of Being...once again. But, Alas...the above mentioned would only generate endless types of Illnesses and Pandemic, which would Truly WIPE-OUT more than half of Earth's human population. This would be a "Final Solution" when Thinking LOGICAL, but, it is in most case not Comprehensible for the majority of humans because of the Ethical Human Values we highly recommend to ourselves which should be part of our daily ways of Thinking and Handling. And here from, One should not be entangled in any such Self-Guilt or Unbalanced Conscience manifestations..within One's self, what so ever; even though we are dealing with Evolutionary Consciousness Spiritual Human Life forms in contrary to the Lower Assisting Consciousness Animal Life-forms which Assist mainly NATURE in her Evolution Process(ing). And thus, we should Acknowledge this "Distinction" Value. Thus, as long as we Assist each other with Creational Life, we will carry the Burden which we put Upon Ourselves till the "Last Breath of Human Existence." But to this "Last Breath of Human Existence" would NATURALLY..have Provided Creation with the Needed Positive Energies for Creation to Sustain her "Equilibrium", and can thus...Generate endless Creational Life-forms to Assist Creation anew, and The Absolute Absolutum. The above may manifest in it's Natural Human Form/Manifestation, unless Creational Powers have a Hand to proceed with her own Di(Re)structive Forms of manifestations to bring herself back to her Needed "Equilibrium", for the sack of Creation itself and the concerning (Collective) Spirit (Consciousness) life forms; for the Material Plain is just a SCHOOL for Material human beings. If needed, Creation will proceed to generate the Spirit Life forms Anew...to take the next course to Evolve. And thus, at times, the Situations and Circumstances, and thus..."OUR DESTINY"....leave us with No other Alternative options. Edward. | |||
Eric_drouin Member Post Number: 91 Registered: 05-2004 |
Hi everyone I am surprised to be the first posting about Katrina, ON THIS TREND but someone has to be first: Just coming back from USA on few days business trip. I haven't heard (in the mainstream media or the people i had to deal with) anyomne making the (obvious to me )connection between POLLUTION, GLOBAL WARMING and environement catastrophes such as KATRINA. The US administration refuses to admit Global Warming, and has been encouraging oil consumption since. This is totally unsane!!! And still, nobody seem to draw any conclusions, apart from some of the posts i have read on FIGU forum putting the blame on secret organizations and other similar non sense. Just a reminder, all of this has been predicted last january during discussion between Ptaah and Billy, which you can read partial translation on Dyson gaiaguys site. I can summarize their discussion as follows: the planet earth has reached a point of non return due basically to overpopulation and unreason of earthling and there will much more of these events as of 2005 an onward. Please read it. IS it clear now? CATCH IT? We all SHARE the responsibility of what is happening, please stop blaming on things that do not exist (and stop this BS...). We ARE DESTROYING THE EARTH. And our planet responds! (The Creational law of Cause and Effect). Besides, the Bushies and the current neo con power elite are much more stupid than you think, they can`t even think to conspire.... Look how they planned Iraq and now New Orleans... Perhaps the US administration will run out of money due to sucessive hurricanes and earthquakes before they start WWIII... (I am trying to be neutral positive here...) Salome Eric | |||
Tjames Member Post Number: 98 Registered: 12-2004 |
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4330286.stm Hey guys, this news link by BBC talks about underground nuclear weapons testing and Tsunami detection having a connection. They say there may be a loosening on data recieved from sensors (guarded by whomever) similar to seismographs whose primary function is to detect under ground nuc-tests. With the release of data given off by the equipment it may help detect the origin of Tsunami's. __________________________________________________ Another fascinating topic whose connection is tied to the the Meier information: Skulls of Hobbits or Dwarf race of people was further discovered recently. If anyone can find the text about small/dwarf/little people (I've read it before) that live or have lived on this planet just post your information. here's the link: "We've got the prospect of having other new species of human on various parts of island South-East Asia" http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4339740.stm Saalome, Tim | |||
Tjames Member Post Number: 99 Registered: 12-2004 |
Hello all, As usual, i was checking BBC Science News (as of thrusday October 27th) and I saw a new scientific finding that tied into the Meier material. This material was written / spoken before 1980, which, was before John Lennons death, being another (but equally important) prediction that has transpired to the letter. Here's an excerpt from Semjase: 176. A further event will occur in regard to the climate which, however, is in its preparation since October and affects especially the northern hemisphere of Earth. 177. I already explained to you previously that, as a special case, Europe will slowly turn into a swamp area. 178. But furthermore, the climate changes drastically in that icy cold will befall this region of Earth, because a new glacial period unavoidably approaches, by which the total surface contour of Earth will again be changed. 179. Already in the North, birds which are at home there all year, begin to fly to the warmer South for winter, and already within a hundred years, these feathered animals will not be at home in the North any longer. 180. Many animals, presently living in northern regions, on the other hand, also migrate toward the south, or they already begin to change their entire anatomy etc. to accommodate themselves to the newly approaching climate of the glacial period. And heres's BBC's corroboration - (confirmation) although the study says that Europe is having droughts, it is nevertheless, confirming the statements made by Semjase about Europe's climate changes. They both indicate a 100 year timetable where much more could happen in the next 75 years and beyond. Climate study shows Europe risks "Mediterranean and mountain areas of Europe will be hardest hit by climate change this century, a study says." http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4381960.stm Saalome, Tim | |||
Edward Member Post Number: 313 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi Kaare... Yes, very interesting what you have posted. Yes, surely Over-Population would play a Factor here. As what I can remember from some 6-10 years back, there was an announcement that fishers in a great deal of the globe to Cut-Down in their fishing; it seemed Then, that there was being more fishing done..the One was Allowed to do. And ofcourse, in the North Sea(and other parts of the world)...many fishermen Did Not keep themselves to this Rule...and many went on an "Illegal" Fishing Spree...which of course...they did not get away with. Thus, they all got Caught and were Fined...etc. But, it also seemed that many fishermen had been "Illegally" fishing...and "Illegally" selling the Over-Remains(Left-overs), which was not truely in it's place...either. So, "Clandestine"...also played a factor here. Thus, I would agree that Man must "Temper-Down"... with Global Fishing and give All Sea-Life a "Chance" to "Regenerate"..enough "Sea-Foods" for our Worldly Populations...as much as possible. Thus, Drastic Measures should Indeed be taken Once Again...in order to Preserve our food supplies. Edward. | |||
Chrisrowley New member Post Number: 1 Registered: 07-2003 |
Hi Everyone, I draw your attention to correlations between Billy's material and that of Whitley Strieber. My focus is the subject of Environmental Changes -- Billy's contacts and Whitley's contacts both spend considerable energy on the topic. Particularly a good start in Whitley's material is in the transcripts of *The Key* discussions www.unknowncountry.com/transcripts.phtml. I have attached the first transcript as a reference to this posting. Read into the warnings of imminent environmental catastrophe due to global warming; it's leading to sudden climate change which heralds a new ice age (yes, warming is the precursor to an ice age). A salient point for all of us is that 6 billion of us risk death due to starvation -- all the northern populations and the most educated populations -- as when the climate change mechanism initiates there will be a storm not seen for 10,000 years. If you are aware of the discoveries in the tundra of frozen mammals with food not digested, the wooly mammoth comes to mind foremost, or of the so called *iceman* in the Italian alps, you will immediately see the implications. Certainly the description of a mechanism whereby a wooly mammoth could be quick-freezed before it could digest a meal is of worthy study. Please do spend a few moments of your web reading time to dig into the material on Whitley's site. In addition to the superstorm scenario, there are also readings of similar content and message as found in *And yet, they fly...* I look forward to dialogue on this (and other) topics. Peace be with you Chris
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David_chance Member Post Number: 10 Registered: 03-2003 |
“He said, ‘Surrender to God.’ And I said, immediately of course, ‘What about free will?’ He said, ‘Free will is only possible in God. The will of the fallen is slavery.’” This statement in “The Key” attests to this material being yet another psuedo-religious sand castle of delusion and attempt at manipulating others. For myself, this disqualifies this material from further consideration. | |||
Michael Member Post Number: 415 Registered: 10-2000 |
Chris, Meier's info on the environment was first given to him in 1956, then again in 1975, 1976, etc. All of this was well before Whitely dreamed up his aliens, or had a chance to read Billy's published material in German, then in English. Michael Horn | |||
Jay Member Post Number: 224 Registered: 01-2002 |
Chris, Billy Meier also came into the scene in 1937, this of course makes a whole lot of sense when we think of the MISSION and why the PLEJARANS gave him the conciousness to fulfill this mission. This statement seems quite biased to me: "Next I asked him, “Why has the Holocaust prevented us from leaving the planet?” And he said, “The Holocaust reduced the intelligence of the human species by killing too many of its most intellectually competent members. It is why you are still using jets 75 years after their invention. Chris what is Grey haired man trying to convey by placing this information to the world? There are just as more instances where man has become stagnant and has not progress besides the holocaust. What about the holocaust in America or is that also just a forgotten fact??. It seems that we are being fooled by some unknown group out there into forcing the issue of the holocaust and they are using Whitley as bait. Don't you think other humans on earth could have come up with great advances for our civilization for ALL HUMANS?? I strongly feel that if one group of Humans is going to be chosen for the task of taking us out of this earth we should not use the Holocaust as the example and place them as the gifted ones. This is not a fare conversation in my opinion. Saalome and BE WELL to ALL
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Edward Member Post Number: 350 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi Chris... I've been Surfing to Strieber's site so every now and than, to see what he has to say, and have noticed..that his Bulletins...if I may call it this, are not from his own findings but from divers Sources that already exist. Whereas, Billy's data on the concerning are purely based on true facts given to him by the Plejarans almost more than a half Century ago. So there is a very clear difference between the data Strieber givens and Billy. Thus the data is Not Collected by Strieber himself...or his So-called Alien friends; just from plain old "Earthly" resources! That's what attracted me to Billy: his data on "Environmental Changes" and the like...were mentioned and published before there was anything such as a Whitley Strieber (and others)....and his so-called Contacts. As they would say here: "He came in with the last boat" And ofcourse, Strieber is Very "God-ish". Never read him mentioning anything concerning "Nature" or anything like that. And if he did, it would be a - God's Nature -...thus a "Bogus" Definition. He is a very devoted "Catholic" and thus, brings his Religion also Into...his daily life...and his "Novels". Again, we have a So-called Contactee which is Based with Religious Fundamental elements. And thus..again, is likely to be Untrue with it's authenticity when it comes down to "Real and True" Extraterrestrial contacts. Edward. | |||
Jay Member Post Number: 227 Registered: 01-2002 |
Chris, Not to mention ALL and I mean ALL the facts he presented in the 70's has come to light through our scientist who devote their time to finding out whats going on in our universe. Meier has shown great surprise to many being he is a farmer with no financial means and one arm just to name a few things. Whitley has never given any scientifical information concerning the world and our future. The Information which Whitley presents is common knowledge and means nothing without any scientific proof. So far they just sound like "HE SAID, SHE SAID" information which is common amongst all in the world. We must see The Meier case as one which will never go away and one of enlightenment for the masses. Saalome and BE WELL to ALL
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Scott Moderator Post Number: 448 Registered: 07-2000 |
Hello, I just came across more information regarding HAARP......when will this madness end?? "The holder of the original HAARP patents, Bernard Eastlund, has said that because of limited electricity in its remote power grid, the only way for HAARP to reach ultra high-power is to generate its own electricity using North Slope natural gas. HAARP watchers took note late last month when HAARP was ordered to double its current power output - just as the Bush administration approved natural gas drilling on Alaska's North Slope." Salome Scott | |||
Jay Member Post Number: 235 Registered: 01-2002 |
Scott, Surely then I am assuming the creation of all this rain we have received here in the North East in New York City. We have been receiving such heavy at times bands of clouds over the whole eastern coast and they have been coming in patterns of every 3 or 4 days at a time. In some ways it seems normal but in other ways we should watch for any weird anomalies in weather patterns in these times. The contribution of the diminishing magnetic fields of earth have to also be taken into consideration since Scientist last week made mention of this. Saalome and BE WELL to ALL
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Edward Member Post Number: 400 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi All.... I happened to have watched a television documentary about Tornedos. It seems that just in the middle of the USA some 1300-1500 small and large tornedos and Twister manifest...alone! Not to forget the rest in the USA. I thought is was something worth mentioning. And in Asia there seems to be a record broken of MASS floods. And in Northern and Eastern parts of Europe there has been masses of rain also, more than ever recorded! Seems like Our "SINS" are Truly being Washed Away!!?? Well, I guess Nature is Truly "Striking Back" as the Plejarans have mentioned...over and over! And this just seems to be The Beginning! Edward. | |||
Edward Member Post Number: 424 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi All..... As you may know, Mt.St.Helen has erupted once again and has had many Hundreds of After-Shocks; felt to San Francisco...and up to Los Angeles! I figure..this may Effect the San Andrea Line..one way or another when it gets to its Full-Effect..?? Which may Cause...the San Andrea Line to Weaken...even more...alas to say. I just heard this morning, that there is a Code RED-Alert!? Anything to worry about? It may look very very innocent externally, but may just be of much danger internally? Knowing that those after-shocks reached out up to Los Angeles? And must have been felt also in center parts of the USA. Thinking of POMPE...which had more devastating Effect in the rims of the Volcano which Caused landscapes to Collapse...than the center of it's self; had a more later role when erupting to it's Fullest. Could this be Start of the mentioned scenario Billy and the Plejaren mentioned? Edward. | |||
Memo00 Member Post Number: 74 Registered: 03-2004 |
hi here in mexico too one volcano has recently waked up i imagine that all of this things are interconnected for example in the contact notes (241) Ptaah explains that many earthquakes around the world (in 1992) ocurred as the result of some explosions that happened here in Guadalajara thanks to the irresponsability of "PEMEX" a goverment owned enterprise and he speaks too how comercial use of nuclear bombs (which is something unkwon to most people), extraction of oil, construction of dams and the simple weight of the increasing human mass are linked to earthquakes and volcano activities around the world | |||
Edward Member Post Number: 425 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi Memo.... Yes, very well posted! It is mentioned that the 80ties eruption of Mt.St.Helen would be the only rough eruption as to manifest compared to what may come the coming days..as it seems. But knowing that this last eruption had over a hundred After-Shocks..and felt to San Francisco and Los Angeles(and other parts of the USA)..which would surely have Effect beneath the Earth's Crust...and the Magma..movements Expanding to its fullest..would play a role here. If the Magma does not launch itself into the air..it would surely Expand in all ways beneath the Earth's crust. Which causes the Trimmers and (After) Shocks. Its just Eating it's way..through the Earth's Layers. Just like an Iceberg; its Not the Top that counts..which can Fool One's perception, But..whats Below the Horizon can be imperceptive! And if I am correct: The San Andrea Line is extended all the way to the West coast of Mexico; if not by land..below the ocean bedding. Thus, if the San Andrea Line is Effected...so will it's Extension to the Mexico Bay Areas. If I am correct, there seems to some 8-10(or more?) of these Fracture Lines, Globally. Thus, One way or another, they will All be Effected when the Time Comes. And as Billy had made very very Clear...in the Henoch Prophecies and others. The more MAN utilizes their weapons of Mass Destruction...The MORE...it will have Effect..On Generating these Fracture Lines to Expand and Collapse the landscapes and ALL that exist there on! Something to keep in mind... Edward. | |||
Edward Member Post Number: 426 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi Memo.... By San Andrea Line I mean the San Andreas Fault..of course, correction. Well the irony of this concerning the San Andreas Fault, is that I know some acquaintances that used to live in the Los Angeles area but have moved beyond the fault miles and miles further...but they spend their daily work in the Los Angels areas! So, the hope is, for them..that when The Big One hits..it will not be during the day time. Edward. | |||
Memo00 Member Post Number: 103 Registered: 03-2004 |
hi to all i hope you are doing fine does anyone knows if billy or the plejarens have said something about the "rainmakers"? (people who make rain fall or stop, etc through very different methods, like the use of certain chemical substances, certain devices (like the machine that Wilhelm Reich made "the cloud buster") or even through shamanic rituals and that kind of things what im particularly interested in, are the possible negative consequences of this activity because simple common sense tell us that if you change something here then something there changes too, cause everything is interconnected (well according to the prophecies in the future new weapons that can change the climate in any selected location will be used and of course today there is the famous HAARP etc) i ask because i meet a person in the web who supposedly offer his services for changing the climate, etc so i would like to know if this activity can have really good results and will be useful in the future or if it is too dangerous an could bring great disasters thanks to all and take care | |||
Junior New member Post Number: 1 Registered: 12-2004 |
Hi memo00 i am not sure if billy or plejarens have mentioned the rainmakers. I have come across HAARP and done some reading about it, it defenatly is related to some prophecies as it uses electromagnetic waves to cause changes, it is using energy from earth, which i would imagine would have an effect on earths energy fields. So it would cause some dangers, and in most cases the power hungry people will try to make sure they are the only ones to have this type of power or technology. It would be somehow hard to believe that people will want to use it for the progress of humanity as a whole. From what i have come across in billy's info is that only certain types of energies will not cause any harm to earth but it will need some time to be discovered, at any rate we will not have the ability to know how much harm any techonology does except with proper unlimited open reasearch, or a disaster. Till then we people of earth will surely have to learn a few lessons from technology and how harmful some technologies might be. hope this answers your question peace to all, and one love | |||
Memo00 Member Post Number: 104 Registered: 03-2004 |
hi junior welcome to the forum right now im more interested in simple guys that supposedly change climate using chemical substances, some kind of machine (the kind of machine that almost anyone can construct and use), or using the power of the consciousness but anyway thanks (and if for some reason you haven´t read yet the info that Billy wrote about the HAARP, you can find it in the FIGU website) take care and if someday for any reason you want to talk with me, you can find me here: bonscott01@yahoo.com.mx | |||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 590 Registered: 07-2000 |
Hello, I don't know if anyone has the answer to this, but considering how much damage has been done to this planet; doesn't this somehow create a cosmic debt that must be paid back? How can this total lack of unaccountability by many of the worlds governing bodies go unchecked on the larger scale of things? If by chance this planet goes down the tubes, and at some point is unable to support life any longer, what happens to those spirit forms that were culpable for its final destruction? Can it be assumed that these spirit forms will at some point in the future migrate to another habitable world and start their machinations all over again? Will they be accountable as were the renegade ET’s in times past, which were obligated through a codex, or will these world leaders somehow just get off the hook? Any comments? Salome Scott | |||
Michael Member Post Number: 447 Registered: 10-2000 |
Hi Scott, My only comment is that "they" may well include "us", as in everyone on the planet to some degree, especially considering past lives. Michael Horn | |||
Cpl Member Post Number: 61 Registered: 08-2004 |
Hi all, This is from The Independent. A report from scientists who met in an official capacity at the request of PM Tony Blair, much of the report's warning is almost word for word the climate changes Billy predicted for the planet many decades ago. Apocalypse now: how mankind is sleepwalking to the end of the Earth Leading article: The World Cannot Wait http://news.independent.co.uk/world/environment/story.jsp?story=608209 ... [Article removed] | |||
Marc Moderator Post Number: 188 Registered: 10-2000 |
Hi Cpl, Since we don't allow active links to non-FIGU-related sites in the forum , I converted it to a plain web address that readers could copy and paste into their browser. I also had to remove the text of that article which you had pasted below the link. The web address should be sufficient for people to read the article. If the article cannot be read in full due to it being a subscription, maybe there's a way that you could post it and other articles of interest as a blog (see Google's blogger.com) or on a web domain that you may have. Regards, Marc Juliano | |||
Markc Member Post Number: 179 Registered: 06-2000 |
Scott , I think there will be a long needed rest for the many spirits that will have to wait for new lives , after an expected decrease in population by cataclysm or man made devastation . Maybe the long rest will allow those spirit forms to come back more ready to assume true responsibilty , and to live in alignment with nature , and each other . Salome, Mark Mark Campbell | |||
Cpl Member Post Number: 62 Registered: 08-2004 |
I see. Ok. Thanks, Marc. | |||
Norm |
NAFTA TRIBUNAL ISSUES DECISION A NAFTA tribunal ruled that Canada-based Methanex Corporation has to submit new evidence in its challenge of a California law banning the sale of the gasoline additive MTBE, a known carcinogen that is contaminating California groundwater. Methanex produces methanol, a key ingredient in MTBE. Methanex argued that the law is an unfair restraint on trade under Chapter 11 of NAFTA and sued for US$970 million for potential lost profits from future sales. The Tribunal side-stepped the central issue by noting that methanol is only one ingredient in MTBE and, since methanol is not banned by the California law, Methanex must submit further evidence to prove that foreign producers were intentionally targeted. NAFTA tribunals are secret courts made up of trade experts that resolve trade disputes. The tribunals do not allow testimony from environmental or citizen groups, and are mandated to make decisions based only on whether or not laws inhibit international trade. While it is likely that Methanex will win this case, if the corporation had been the main producer of MTBE, it likely would have won, placing future regulations to protect the environment in doubt. SOURCES: Milenio, La Jornada, Proceso, El Universal | |||
Michael |
Here's a link showing remarkable evidence of what appears to be weather manipulation: http://rense.com/general28/haarp.htm Michael | |||
Scott B. |
Michael, Yes, that is a very "unusual formation". From what I can tell, the material which is pink in color resembles very much the remains of earlier chemtrail activity. Also, 9 times out of 10 when these chemicals are in the atmosphere the sunsets are always reddish/pink in color. Thanks Scott | |||
Jean Pierre Lagasse |
Hi Michael, Scott, all... With respect, a comment or two. We've been seeing a fair bit of info from a "particular source" that states that these "chemtrails" etc. are a result of "manipulation" etc... This "source" will not even credit the Meier info for what his info is worth??? This is "interesting" in itself...eh? Perhaps a clue as to "this source's" real nature & intentions ??? Perhaps, these are direct manipulations, but I suspect that even the "supertech guys" don't know the results of all the "stuff" they are doing. I further suspect that these results are far worse than even they suspect... or what we can see "visually". However, this "particular source" seems to be "playing" on "our fears" for the worse... sort of like the tabloids??? Aside from this, I've seen some pretty interesting cloud formations, including "chiselled ufo's" from clouds, "lines", "barriers", etc. etc. up here in Alberta Canada, in areas where no jets fly or anything. We sometimes see all sorts of really interesting unusual stuff in the clouds. Perhaps this is nature at work at least some of the time??? I could take pictures, and "report" all sorts of stuff from these. Perhaps "this source" would publish these as well??? We should, however, continue to "monitor" all these effects and observations. My point is that this "particular source" of info is "suspect", in a manner of speaking, at least in my way of thinking. Perhaps eventually, this "source" might "grow up" a little, and begin to "think"... instead of "playing the public" for whatever it's worth??? I personally really appreciate your personal efforts at keeping us informed though... please continue this. Regards, JP | |||
Scott B. |
Hi JP, I'm confused as to what you are saying. Are you saying a "particular source" is one of us talking about the chemtrail topic? Please explain,,thanks Scott | |||
Michael |
Hi JP, I, too, don't have a clue as to what you mean here. Michael | |||
Linda |
Pierre, I don't understand your post, either, which I've now read once, twice, thrice and thensome. I've also gone back to older posts to see if I could make sense of what you are trying to say. One thing is clear. The "source" you repeatedly refer to sounds a bit Machiavellian, and it's rather apparent that you do not think highly of this person. So, I agree with Scott and Michael that it would be very helpful if you could clarify what you mean here. Thanks, Linda | |||
James the truthseeker |
Greetings JP and everyone, JP, I'm thus assuming that "the source" you are refering to to is thus "JEFF RENSE" in relation to Williom Thomas and other conspiracy theories. Yes JEFF RENSE does have a tendency at times to go OVER BOARD with what he says. Check out: http://www.artbell.com/weather.html Salome, James TT. | |||
Jean Pierre Lagasse |
Hi all, I once saw a similar "UFO cloud" very clearly "chiseled" (or formed) out of/from part of an ordinary cloud. This was very near to me, as clouds go. This was accompanied by a "thought" which asked me a question & then gave an answer. After these thoughts were finished, this "cloud ufo" dissolved into the rest of the cloud within maybe 10 or 20 seconds or so. Very strange... Although these types of experiences brings up questions and possibilities, they are NO PROOF of ANYTHING. If I was to jump to the conclusion that this was a UFO, or that these were "communications", I would then be delusional or whatever. (For example, the "thoughts" mentioned above could have been totally of my own fabrication, and we don't know everything about nature and/or clouds) This is equally so, if I was to say it was absolutely NOT some type of UFO. These must stay within the realm of possibilities only, until we have the instrumentation (or otherwise) to measure these types of phenomena. Verification !!! James, you guessed quite correctly, referring to my poorly worded previous post. I should have been more specific, it seems. In my own (perhaps unenlightened) opinion, the photographs provided by Mr. Rense, do not prove any form of correlation between the HAARP project, any (high tech) chemicals injected into our atmosphere, or otherwise. Although these photographs imply possibilities, this is NOT the same as absolute scientific proof. Regards, JP | |||
James the truthseeker |
Greetings JP and all, It is true that many people come to conclusions rather to quickly, and that assumptions do not prove anything. On the other side of the situation it's like I once said in the past, I can tell people that I've experienced UFOs, but I could never prove my claims even with photos. So perhaps personal experiences is believing but we always need to seek the truth beyond what we may think is true, but with an open mind. The best we can do is be open to all possibilities until the situation presents itself in a more factual form. Peace in truth, James the truthseeker | |||
Norm |
Iceland invents energy-from-water machine. "Now an Icelandic team has invented a radical device which can produce electricity from water. The Thermator could play a major role in the non-polluting economies of the future. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/2352853.stm | |||
Jean Pierre Lagasse |
Info on the Peltier effect: http://www.peltier-info.com/ | |||
Claes Elmberg |
The oxygen content of air decreased? Hello All, Does anybody have any links to sientific evidence about the decreased oxygen levels on the earth over the last 100 years? Do the plejarans mention any percentage numbers for this. If yes, in which leaflet/book? thankyou all, //Claes | |||
Edward |
Hi Claes... Very good question! I have wondered about this myself. I can not recall reading anything in Billy's material. But maybe someone else may have? Yes, with all our Wooden Areas being Cut-Down..I would indeed say our oxygen percentage would have Surely.. Decreased...the last 100 years. Just my opinion...ofcourse. "No more Trees....No More 'Natural' Oxygen!" Edward. | |||
Jean Pierre Lagasse |
Here is some info I've found on CO2... but nothing on oxygen yet. http://www.geog.ouc.bc.ca/physgeog/contents/9r.html Look at the bottom of the web-page page. In the earth's distant past, our O2/CO2 content has changed quite a bit... from what I've read. Also, apparently earth's oxygen content is not "optimal" for best health. The Plejaren home planet & their beamships use a somewhat higher oxygen content than we are used to. | |||
Edward |
Hi Jean Pierre.. Yes...a very good link. There was a News-flash here on TV...showing that the Ozon-Hole in the Southpole..seem to be Smaller then it was in the past!? They showed a sateliet picture...and it did show that the Hole is Closing..and Not as big as it used to be. So, is the C02 gasses really...being stopped from spreading into our atmosphere...One would ask? Or is the sateliet picture 'Manipulated'?(by Manipulators?) Many find it very hard to believe...that it has Closed so soon. Or did we Really...Do Our Best?(to stop adding More C02 into our amtmosphere...than needed) Yes, I would agree with you that our oxygen percentage is not that healthy anymore. And still with all the pollution...making it very Unhealthy for our Human bodies. As years back it was made known by researchers...that many childeren being born today having more 'Allergies' than is past times. Edward. | |||
Scott B. |
Hello, I would just like to give an update on information that I have become aware of regarding chemtrails. For the most part many people do not know the true reasons why this is occurring, including myself. For at least the last 3-4 years more people have become involved in independent research to try and determine if not why, then what are we being sprayed with. Consequently, there has been information coming out that one of the chief components in this fallout is Barium, which I have mentioned before. In addition there has been some study in regards to the biological aspect of it, which recently has been confirmed again. There is a gentleman in Santa Fe New Mexico who has been researching this quite extensively for at least 3-4 years. During the year 2000 he was able to identify certain biological components to this, which resembled red blood cells. During the first part of December 2002, this gentleman again decided to retest to see if his original findings held up. He placed a Hepa air filter outside for approx 5 days, after this period he removed the filter and cut small sections from the filter to test and observe his findings. This was done for a period of 5 consecutive days, taking a sample each day and testing it. What he discovered again was what appeared to be red blood cells, which had deposited themselves onto the filter. These were discovered after the samples were put into a test tube and were soaked in distilled water for approximately 15 minutes and viewed under a microscope at 5000X magnification. The cells were measured to be approximately 4 microns in diameter, and when treated with an iodine solution grew to approximately 6-7 microns, which is the size of the human cell. In addition, this size approximates the size of the cells, which are found in dogs and pigs. I'm not sure what this all means and why it is happening, but it is. This gentleman has reported extensive chemtrail/contrail activity in is area for a number of years, as have many other people who have been following this phenomena. I have included an image of one of the test samples, which was observed.  Thanks for listening Salome Scott B. | |||
markc |
That's really unusual , Scott . I wonder what the purpose could be of Spraying the atmoshpere with Barium treated Blood cells ? Maybe it's the best way for the Barium to get into our blood stream though our lungs. What is the effect of Barium in the human body ? Mark | |||
JPLagasse |
Hi Scott, I would be very interested in knowing the source of this information, further details on this gentleman's methods etc. I am somewhat familiar with mycology, having grown Reishi mushrooms in my home & have taken a few courses on this. HEPA filters, sterilization, procedures etc. were part of this. On one hand, regarding the above study, it would be relatively easy for the filter to have become contaminated, or for the source of these cells to be other than from "chemtrails". Also, the method(s) used to identify these cells is of interest... etc. On the other hand, it might be possible to take air samples throughout US & Canada etc. using the proper equipment & IF proper procedures are followed. For example: An appropriate pre-sterilized "filter/package" (& gadgets) could be mailed out & the recipient, using a vacuum cleaner, could sample the air in his yard & then reseal & mail these back to the "lab". There would be a few "details" to this... but as I think of these, they could be worked out. Either way, the information you posted seems quite alarming & warrants further investigation for sure !! Thanks & Regards, JP | |||
Scott B. |
Hello Mark, JP, Here is the website regarding the information I just recently posted. http://www.carnicom.com/contrails.htm Yes, I have wondered could the filter have been contaminated by some other means, I think if others could duplicate the same findings independently this would add more credibility to his findings. Although, from what I can tell this gentleman has been fairly consistent in his methods and has been diligent in sharing his findings. Salome Scott | |||
James Roy Mizar |
Greetings all, Barium on the human body... Effect: Short-term: EPA has found barium to potentially cause the following health effects when people are exposed to it at levels above the MCL for relatively short periods of time: gastrointestinal disturbances and muscular weakness. Long-term: Barium has the potential to cause the following effects from a lifetime exposure at levels above the MCL: high blood pressure. Take care James | |||
Dan Blatecky |
Does not make any sence? I know that barium and boron are both in some way either reactant or nonreactant to radiation sources. However by your findings, or blood cells found within said barium? One has to factor the problem, as if this barium is being sprayed over wide areas, by agencies unknown, then for what pourpose would this be afterwords? It is said that the weather systems are so goofed-up on this planet, in some ways the spraying, is used to control weather patterns. The sources for this were both on Art Bell's show. I don't know. | |||
Kaare Member Post Number: 5 Registered: 03-2003 |
I think what is happening to our oceans now has a clear link to overpopulation. The Newsweek July 14 issue had a cover story that I must say was both sad and shocking. The front page showed a shark swimming in the blue sea and over it, the headline said with big letters: “Are the Oceans Dying ? “ further underneath the shark it said: “Ninety Percent of the Big Fish Are Gone. Scientists Are Struggling to Make Sense of the Fallout.” Another recent headline from a British paper reads that “ all fishing should be banned in a third of the worlds oceans to reverse a catastrophic decline in fish stocks such as cod and tuna, British scientists have warned.” Scientist with the Scottish Fisheries Research Service warned last week that North Sea cod stocks, now down to about 40,000 tons, were “critical” and called for fishing to be heavily restricted. Some of these articles goes on to blame the modern factory trawlers since they have an enormous capacity and simply catch too much. And there is no doubt some truth in that. And of course there are also other factors such as pollution to consider. But if one look at the big picture, I would say that the real cause is overpopulation. The trawlers are mere “ tools” that are soaking up fish to meet the continuos increasing demand due to a rapid increase in population/overpopulation over the last decades. And the way the price of most fish has been steadily increasing, tells that this is a product in demand for which there is not enough supply. And fresh fish is now becoming a luxury food out of reach for many families. And of course overpopulation is also a major factor to blame for all the pollution ending up in the sea, which inflicting damage on the marine ecosystem. Kaare |
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