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    Leann Member Post Number: 34 Registered: 08-2006 |
Dear Dyson, Thank you for your thoughtful response. Now please explain why everyone's beloved Semjase who apparently doesn't have blonde pubic hair because it was genetically manipulated not to be there and why she would be in a family tree that would have any "shame" at all to ever have to be genetically removed. Cheers to you too, Leann | ||
Gaiaguysnet Member Post Number: 653 Registered: 03-2004 |
Dear Charles and Leann, Nobody “descended” from apes in the Darwinian sense. Please see www.gaiaguys.net/meier.p6-11,13sb32.htm But if – say – your aunt married a gorilla and had a big family, then you would have apes in your family tree. We are related to the Plejaren, but they are not related to Earth apes. They don’t have pubic hair. There has been more than one genetic reengineering, but ETs mated with Earth-apes, making hybrids which then interbred with the existing terrestrial population. The Earth-ape ancestry is a major component of our history. (Bonobos are also degenerated humans,according to the FIGU material.) I’ll dig out the exact quotes and references for you when time permits, (if someone else here doesn’t beat me to it) but here’s something I wrote which a quick forum search turned up from last year. "The ancient ancestors of the Plejaren mated with the comely Earth ape-women and here we all are. Had this not happened originally, instead of sitting here in front of computers exchanging ideas, we would be sitting, petrified, up in trees waiting for the cave-bears to leave, etc., and exchanging frightened little grunts with one another. I don’t know about you, but I know that I’d rather the former than the latter any day, so – in a way – no matter how wretched we collectively are, we still got a big boost up the evolutionary ladder that we would not otherwise have enjoyed." I still like (and grow) bananas. :-) Cheers! Dyson | ||
The_future Member Post Number: 7 Registered: 02-2007 |
I don’t know why anyone would want to drag us down and try to make us feel any worse by calling us human-ape hybrids. It’s the spirit-form that counts. None of us would ever be sitting, petrified, up in trees waiting for the cave-bears to leave, etc., and exchanging frightened little grunts with one another, because none of us have ape spirit-forms. Besides, didn’t Billy or Semjase once compliment the earth human form by saying it is among the most beautiful of all human forms in the Universe? | ||
Gaiaguysnet Member Post Number: 655 Registered: 03-2004 |
Dear friends, Trying to track down the references I want about the “apes” in our past is like trying to track down the Abominable Snowman, and he’s actually somewhat easier to find, among the thousands of unindexed and un-searchable pages. Add to that, I just discovered another numbering inconsistency between the Stevens’ translations and the Kontactberichte volumes. This time it’s in contact 7, which is the most descriptive yet of the information I’m trying to rely. These wild creatures, with which irresponsible human ETs mated in our dim and distant past, were not exactly “apes” in the strict sense of the word, but were described as wild Earth creatures or beings, who were left over from various previous ET-Earth-creature matings and had either gone completely feral, or were wild from the start. The word “ape” per se of course refers to a very specific family of simian Earth animals, so I should not have used that word so loosely, but perhaps written “ape-like creatures”. These characters were originally hybrids themselves, so – in a sense – since we are mixed up (genetically) with them, and they were mixed up with the ape-types and became ape-like themselves, it’s not entirely misleading to say that we do indeed have “apes” in our family tree, as long as you call those hairy guys who swing through trees beating their chests “apes”. The previous URL which contains the material about Darwin explains the strict difference between humans and apes. Similarly, I should not have described Bonobos as “human”, but more as human-animal hybrids as are the Yetis, Peking-man, Neanderthal, Homo Africanus, etc. etc. Sorry for the confusion. I’ll try to get to the bottom of this numbering difficulty too. Contacts 7 and 70 provide leads, in and the 182nd contact (Feb 3rd, 1983) Quetzal makes an oblique reference to the atavistic “Schamhaar” (pubic hair) as being a result of our evolutionary circumstances, (v355) but that’s not the main reference which still eludes me. If I ever find it, I’ll do a little translation and post it here. A photographic memory would be handy! :-/ Likewise, after trying in vane for many weeks to sign up to the German-language forum without success last year, I saw it as a “sign” not to, so I gave up, and therefore do not have access to their search function, so cannot search OMEDAN, Schamhaar, etc. Hilfe, irgendjemand? (Help, anybody?) Cheers! Dyson | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 1138 Registered: 12-1999 |
Hi Dyson, I did a search on the German Forum for OMEDAN and Schamharr, but came up with no hits. Scott | ||
Hector Member Post Number: 221 Registered: 04-2006 |
Dyson if you want a definition and a description of the concept "Omedam" try this page (german only). http://www.lanzendorfer.ch/Artikel_Daten/vortrag_5a.htm | ||
Gaiaguysnet Member Post Number: 658 Registered: 03-2004 |
Dear Scott, Thanks for looking. Why am I not surprised? :-/ I'll keep digging. Dear The, Billy tends to bring down, with his harsh truth, those Earth humans who seem to indicate that they believe that they represent the central jewel in the crown of Creation. This is just one of the last battles in the Copernican revolution, and is not meant as a personal affront. Semjase was – of course – merely referring to that which is skin deep. She also says, “ … the question remains how the human may identify himself with everything when he does not know the spirit's path. Generally, he identifies himself with his body.” I’m curious, The. You’re quite new here. How much have you familiarized yourself with the teachings? I ask because you seem rather antagonistic towards them and me. Salome, Dyson | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 1142 Registered: 12-1999 |
Hi Dyson, I now realize what happened. I did a cut and paste from your spelling, but now I see you accidentally spelled OMEDAM, OMEDAN, which didn't bring up anything. I went back and did a search and pulled up 2 pages with reference to OMDEDAM. Scott | ||
Gaiaguysnet Member Post Number: 660 Registered: 03-2004 |
Gosh, Scott! I'm not doing to well in the typo dept lately. (I'd probably do better if I has opposable thumbs!) Sorry about that. Of course the “OMDEDAM” that I searched for on the main FIGU site got me the same hits (Thanks Hector!) but what I seek is in the contact notes somewhere. Not to worry. It will turn up e v e n t u a l l y. Cheers! Dyson | ||
Norm Member Post Number: 1119 Registered: 02-2000 |
The ancient ancestors of the Plejaren mated with the comely Earth ape-women and here we all are. Had this not happened originally, instead of sitting here in front of computers exchanging ideas, we would be sitting, petrified, up in trees waiting for the cave-bears to leave, etc., and exchanging frightened little grunts with one another. I don’t know about you, but I know that I’d rather the former than the latter any day, so – in a way – no matter how wretched we collectively are, we still got a big boost up the evolutionary ladder that we would not otherwise have enjoyed." That is if your a native Earth spirit form, but if your an ET crash victim your bumming! My Website | ||
Norm Member Post Number: 1120 Registered: 02-2000 |
Scott, Can't you help Dyson get in there. It may be some PC glitch. Likewise, after trying in vane for many weeks to sign up to the German-language forum without success last year, I saw it as a “sign” not to, so I gave up, and therefore do not have access to their search function My Website | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 1152 Registered: 12-1999 |
Hi Norm, I don't think anyone is trying to keep Dyson from registering. I would suggest he try and re-register. Scott | ||
Fedor Member Post Number: 10 Registered: 01-2007 |
From my experience, there is no need to register just to read from or search the German-language forum. I've had no problem entering with either Mozilla Firefox or Internet Explorer. Just log in as a guest. Works for me. | ||
Edward Member Post Number: 783 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi All.... I just want to react on the in-put the Plejarans gave us concerning - MILK-. This is my experience: As a young child I had to drink milk at home and at school. And at that very young age, I came to understand that I was 'Allergic' for Milk! What was the case: every time I drank milk I obtained - diarrhea. So, to some point I did become nauseous, also. So, as a child I tried to avoid milk as much as possible. So, it became apparent, that I was not to consume milk in general in my everyday life. Even in the mid 70ties when I worked in a couple of factories where I had to drink milk as an 'anti-dope', against certain types of illnesses which could/can be generated by the main-materials which I worked with, which were in most cases that of dust particles in format, or (in) liquid format. But of course: I did NOT drink the milk! Because I knew what 'effect' it had on my body. And so, I did not drink the milk. And I was warned to drink it...or just accept the consequences. So, in one factory which produced paint, just by not drinking the milk I obtained - skin rash -, and of course as result, I had to quit the job. So, I come to comprehend that I was allergic for milk mainly because of it's - Fat - contents, amongst others! The percentage of Fat in milk had a very direct effect on my stomach as well as the rest of my body processing: metabolism. As a child I never liked the 'Fatty' taste in milk when I had to drink it! In those days: in the 50-60ties...milk was still very very Fatty, then. And even in the 70ties I did avoided milk as much as possible till there was - Lean Milk -! And thus, the coming of Lean Milk was a great revelation for me, and even to had the possibility to drink milk without getting ill. From then on, I only unitized milk so every now and than, for drinking chocolate milk, in the coffee or tea, porridge, pancakes and so forth. Still, I barely drink milk just out of that carton, so to speak. I only drink milk (straight) if necessary(: practically never!). And so, I distanced myself first from the "Fatty Full-Milk", and did try the Half Full-Milk, which was still too Fatty for me, and last but not least: the Lean Milk was the solution for my difference. So, now I buy the Leanest Milk I can find: even though some may find it too 'Watery'. It suites me the best, though. And no more problems with my stomach and having diarrhea. I come to understand that not all in my family can drink milk, and have the same difference as I have. So, it seems, to be in the family: that being allergic to (Fat) Full-Milk...in general, was common. This above mentioned information can also be seen as a supplement to what Christian has posted concerning Milk, in the - Questions to Billy - string. And that parents should keep in mind the above mentioned, for their children as well as for themselves. Some parents may not still know or notice the link between (Fat) Milk and diarrhea, and so forth, and such symptoms as nausea(caused by the Milk). Thus, once again the Plejarans speak "Truth" concerning the consumption of....MILK! Prooost!  Edward. | ||
Badr Moderator Post Number: 166 Registered: 12-2004 |
Ok Bob, and anyone else interested… the thing I wanted to add is… While I am at it I could correct you and any other members about an incorrect statement which is, where the location of the psyche is, recently a few friends and I discussed this issue of the location of the psyche or the solar plexus, one of them had experience in the field of the (Nervous system/ Circulatory system), and knew exactly where the location of the solar plexus is, but only that person knew it between us, as I was never exposed to this information the only source I had was the forum, and in two instances in the archive here in the English forum it is written that the solar plexus is in the chest region or area. But if you look at this link : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celiac_plexus You will notice that it’s not in the chest area, but in the abdomen area. Well then the question came from where did the idea that it is in the chest area come from. I searched the archive of the German forum to see if the same mistake existed there as well. I found a couple of posts that said the following… “der sich genau auf der Höhe seines Psychezentrums, so also um den Solarplexus im Brustbereich befindet“ Freitag, 21. Dezember 2001 - 17:46 Uhr „Du den Stein an einer Kette um den Hals trägts (Bruststein), sollte er sich auf der Höhe des sogenannten Solarplexus oder dem Gefühlszentrum befinden.“ Montag, 03. Februar 2003 - 11:33 Uhr In both cases the posts by Hans-George was in relation to wearing gemstones in the “upper” of the (psyche centre /solar plexus) which would be the chest area, if you look at the diagram in the link mentioned above, you can see how the nerves’ from the solar plexus extends to the chest area, but the centre of it is not in the chest area. Just thought I might mention it, as I had a wrong assumption since a long time ago, and the source was this forum.. another reason why I do care like some other members about the accuracy of information written here on the forum, I just never saw myself in a position of correcting any one, since I am also in the beginning stages of learning this information. Salome, Badr | ||
Phi_spiral Member Post Number: 57 Registered: 03-2007 |
Thanks, Badr. But just so I am clear, where is the link made that the psyche and the solar plexus are one and the same? Is that in the teachings? Regards Bob | ||
Badr Moderator Post Number: 167 Registered: 12-2004 |
Your welcome Bob, well the only source I found to this point is Hans-George’s post on the German forum, and in case you don’t know him he is one of the moderators there, and in my opinion the one with the most information and understanding of the teachings, I had a quick look at the book “Die Psyche” but there was no reference to the location of the solar plexus, under the section of the psyche. Plus I cannot confirm that it’s directly from the spiritual teachings (Geisteslehre) since I didn’t come across it yet, but that doesn’t mean it is not in there. As of my understanding, is that the psyche is located in the solar plexus. Maybe someone else on the forum knows where Billy mentioned it, but to me Hans-George is one of the core group that has a lot of knowledge and is very wise, as I have not seen many core group members writing a lot like him I don’t not know about the rest and the degree of their understanding, if you ever seen (translated) the German bulletins or part of the German forum you would understand what I mean. Salome, Badr | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 1194 Registered: 12-1999 |
Hello, You know its interesting, but I'm must be the guinea pig here in regards to the location of the Solar Plexus. Without going into too much detail, I have gone through somewhat of a traumatic experience lately, which has caused the area in the area of my stomach to tighten up on numerous occasions. This tightness is not in the region of my chest, but definitely in the area of the abdomen. I have used some of the exercises outlined in the Psyche for healing of the Psyche, and I will say, when the exercises are done correctly, I feel my stomach area relax somewhat. So whether this is really the area of the solar plexus I am not sure, but I have a very strong reaction in the area I mentioned. Regards Scott | ||
Memo00 Member Post Number: 285 Registered: 03-2004 |
hi to all im not an expert or anything but i think the solar plexus is located BETWEEN the chest and the abdominal region here i add a drawing from a martial arts book:  all parts of the body keep an harmonic proportion, i think the solar plexus is approximately at the same distance from the navel than the genitals are from it (one can measure this distance with the hand, extend you fingers to their maximum horizontal longitude put the little finger in the navel and the thumb will be over the solar plexus and for below is the same) my experience with this part of the body is that when one has feelings, thoughts, imaginations, etc about love, something is felt in this particular region (also when you are sad (like when a girl breaks your heart) but the sensation is different) and well about the abdominal region. . . it seems like the digestive system is affected greatly by stress, from diarrhoea, to vomiting or simply losing the appetite, each person is different, also its supposed that emotional problems are directly linked with the muscles (the facial ones are most obvious) but also all the others i hope this helps take care | ||
Thomas Member Post Number: 261 Registered: 03-2004 |
Just a reminder to Badr and a note to everyone else about a bit of confusion on the solar plexus location: The solar plexus IS located at the upper end of the stomach and behind it, as I recall, BUT in "Arahat Athersata" I believe it was, there is mention of the feeling-center (which I thought was the solar plexus originally) being located exactly in the center of the chest. This little mystery is not yet solved to my satisfaction unfortunately... Thomas | ||
Edward Member Post Number: 785 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi All..... Just last week, I read that the US forces whom had the so-called 'Gulfsyndrome' had an anomaly in the brain area. What was the case: the brain (tissue) lobe, was not it's original size, anymore! It had 'shrunk' below it's original size. This area where the lobe was located, processes the Memory, Thoughts and so forth. The US forces whom have the Gulfsyndrome, lack the ability to Think properly. And even a degeneration of the Thinking ability will degrade, itself ...as has been noticed. Which can lead to the total decay of the human being; him/herself mentally, of course. Very astonishing, what a war experience can bring forth to the Mental State of a human being. This/A war experience can truly 'induce' the decay of the Material Consciousness Lobe from it's original size. So, I guess, the above mentioned can also be applied to, not only the US forces, but even the inhabitants(men, women and children) of Iraq, itself (or anywhere in the world where war is in the process). Thus, once again..it is proven: How we Think and what we Experience...has 'influence' on our Material Consciousness and it's Blocks! Modification, of the Material Consciousness...is thus a constant processing, and dependent on what we experience. And will always have, as result: influence on our Material Body, alas. Edward. | ||
Badr Moderator Post Number: 168 Registered: 12-2004 |
Hello again everyone, Don’t worry Thomas I didn’t forget what you mentioned. Well upon investigating this issue a bit further I have come to a conclusion that is not very straight forward … I could start by saying that everyone has to decide for himself what might sound true to you on a personal level. I will split my conclusion into three parts… 1.If you might have looked at the German forum you would have seen me asking Hans a couple of questions about this issue. Now, as he explains me, is that FIGUs view towards the location or centre of the psyche or solar plexus, which would be in the centre of the chest. Because it can be felt there for example when you get a sudden shock, that a flow of energy would be felt and distributed around the body from the chest area. 2.If you look from a medical point of view of where the solar plexus is, it would be below the diaphragm, which is between the chest cavity and abdominal cavity. 3.And as I final note, looking for direct quotes by Billy in relation to the solar plexus was not found (but keep in mind not all the 24,000 pages were covered in the search), it is only mentioned by others around him, although Billy did mention in one of his books called „Widergeburt, Leben, Sterben, Tod und Trauer“ that the psyche can be felt in the chest area (Brustzentrum) but he did not mention the solar plexus. So it is up to everyone to make up their own mind, as for me it is much clearer now that I received an answer from Hans, and being able to read the different things that have been mentioned in relation to it. He added a few extra points, but it doesn’t directly relate to the location of the psyche or the solar plexus, and therefore didn’t include it here, if you are interested just go to the German forum and see if you could find it, and stick the text into a translator and see what it says. And thanks to whomever helped me with the sources or more details on the issue, as I would have needed a much longer time to find all the sources on my own. Salome, Badr | ||
Thomas Member Post Number: 267 Registered: 03-2004 |
Thanks for the question and answer on the German forum about the solar plexus information Badr. It was very interesting! By the way, I think you are going to do just fine as a moderator. Just continue to do what you think is best, and don't let anyone's criticism get you down if you do encounter that. You are doing a great job already as an actively participating part of this forum, and speaking for myself, that is appreciated! Have a great day everyone! Thomas |
