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    Kingman Member Post Number: 126 Registered: 07-2004 |
Hi Rarena I think your, " seeing beyond ordinary daily awareness " aspect of dreaming, helps our subconscious relate on a more equal basis with our reality based conscious. Our minds normal software we use for the daily interpretations, is sure to be more surprised and able to recall subconscious postings when they are in a setting that can be more than just strange. This can set us pondering, as we do, about the meaning of each dream that remains in our waking thoughts. A possible micro thread of info linked to maybe a bigger source of wisdom. As we decode these more to their accurate meaning, the wealth of the great knowledge it hides becomes all the more openly visible. I still remember series of dreams I had that would stretch over months at a time. Familiar sensations would sometimes be my lucid memory as I fell to sleep, or the setting maybe when I awoke. Never any type of fearful activities, just comfortable surroundings or entities. Every once in awhile, a similar type of dream I've had will repeat itself and I think I'm going to try a little harder on recording it for comparisons. Something forces me to somehow maintain the memories of certain dreams and I think I've sadly ignored their hidden kernels they must contain. a friend in america Shawn | ||
Junior Member Post Number: 94 Registered: 12-2004 |
Dear Rarena, Peter, Kingman and others In regards to Billy and dream interpretations, I read a while ago in the German Bulletin No. 18 Page 2, when a lady from Germany asked Billy a question regarding dreams of her having the ability to fly, and if it had any thing to do with Billys prediction that we will be able to fly in the future with special suit. He went on to explain that he is not able to pin point the exact meaning, it would take weeks or months of detailed analysis and investigation in order to find its meaning. Mainly because dreams are very personal and she is the only one that can find the answer, because she knows her self, her own dreams and wishes. He then mentions a few possibilities of what it could mean: *UNOFFICIAL TRANSLATION* 1. Fliegen und Telekinese symbolisieren zum Teil sexuelle Bedürfnisse und Wünsche und zum andern Teil das Verlangen einer Rückkehr in den Mutterleib, was auch als Bedürfnis nach Schutz ausgelegt werden kann. 1. Flying and Telekinesis partly symbolizes sexual needs and wishes, and partly the desire to return to the womb, which also refers to the need for protection. 2. Nicht selten ist, dass ein Fliegenkönnen durch Bewusstseinskraft einen besseren Überblick über das vergangene Leben und über die Zukunft verschaffen soll. 2. The ability to fly through consciousness energy commonly refers to the improvement of overview of the past and future 3. Fliegenkönnen oder Telekinese betreiben kann bedeuten, dass man sich aus den ‹Niederungen des Alltags› erheben resp. aus diesen befreien will, um Höheres anzustreben. Dabei besteht allerdings immer die Gefahr, dass der feste Boden unter den Füssen verlassen wird, was immer eine sehr unsichere Angelegenheit ist, weshalb darauf geachtet werden muss, dass nicht ein zu grosser Idealismus entsteht oder dass unerfüllbare Ansprüche in Erscheinung treten. 3. The ability to Fly and Telekinesis can refer to, that a person would elevate or free him self from the daily depression, to strive for more. Therefore the danger exists, that the person would leave the solid ground, which is a very uncertain matter, that’s why special care must be taken, that the outcome is not larger idealism or the appearance of unaccomplishable demands. 4. Fliegen und Telekinese betreiben können kann darauf hinweisen, dass ein mehr oder weniger wichtiges Problem gelöst wurde. 4. The ability to Fly and Telekinesis can also indicate to solving an important problem. Please note: point 3 might need revision, it wasn’t easy to translate it. regards, Peace to all, and one Love Junior | ||
Rarena Member Post Number: 55 Registered: 10-2005 |
Hi, Wanted to mention if it was not mentioned previously, that we are much more powerful than we know. We have the power of creation on our side, since we carry a small (¿infinite?) part (¿of infinity?). In other words, by thinking and focusing on a thing we can make that thing happen. So, what we focus on grows... If we focus on what we DON'T like, THAT is what is going to happen. Cause and effect. Even though we don't like it. So by thinking about what we DO want, and what would benefit us the most, than that will start appearing in our lives. It is interesting to note, that the more advanced you are in this respect, the quicker the thing you are concentrating on appears. Television dreams are almost as important as telephone dreams. Jung was for personality analysis which does not follow through to the spiritual level. Gary Swartz mainly brings up the idea that there is a side to us that science does not really pay attention to. Astral projection was something it was my pleasure to experience, when working (sensorally deprived I might add...) in Alaska and visiting my girlfriend in Fairfax able to tell her what clothes she was wearing from thousands of miles away (freaked her out). This may be my first writing of this experience... Not really sure what the Meier material may say about this... Tschüs... Love to all... rarena ô¿ô Saalome gam naan ben uurda, gan njjber asaala hesporoona. Peace be on Earth, and among all beings. | ||
Peter_brodowski Member Post Number: 141 Registered: 01-2004 |
hey junior, that is interesting, it also gives us a look into the way billy views things, i suppose, to a degree. about "astral projection". i dont know if astral is the term that figu uses, in any case. i too have experienced things that one may refer to or assume is conciousness projection, but just the same it could at timse have been visions, which depending on the content, may paint a picture of traveling somewhere or being in some place half way around the world. you dont need to project your conciousness anywhere at all to know what somebody is wearing half way around the world. i think you can get this information through the storage banks too? | ||
Rarena Member Post Number: 56 Registered: 10-2005 |
Hi Peter, That seems logical, since the Akashic records contain the collective unconscious as Jung put it. Tschüs... Love to all... rarena ô¿ô Saalome gam naan ben uurda, gan njjber asaala hesporoona. Peace be on Earth, and among all beings. | ||
Peter_brodowski Member Post Number: 143 Registered: 01-2004 |
hey rarena, about jung... i read some of his "theories" on dreams and that sphere of conciousness. to me it seems like he complicates things, maybe it's just the way i look at it. i look at it like this... some part of our mind, at any given time is awake, aware, concious. if we are asleep, it's simply a different form of conciousness. i imagine that the further one evolves, then those to states of conciousness will unify and harmonize more and more. well tha's my own opinion about that, based on my own discoveries on dreams and conciousness, dimensions etc. interesting stuff, the world of dreams | ||
Rarena Member Post Number: 60 Registered: 10-2005 |
According to the Meier Case, dreams are an extension of our Psyche. Jung called them the collective unconscious, which may still be correct, but it is not our true spirit. Tschüs... Love to all... rarena ô¿ô Saalome gam naan ben uurda, gan njjber asaala hesporoona. Peace be on Earth, and among all beings. | ||
Peter_brodowski Member Post Number: 199 Registered: 01-2004 |
hello, lately i've been having many dreams to do with levitation and mind control and having "lucid dreams". has anybody been having any experience and progress in this lately? in one of my most recent one, i became aware that i was dreaming, and i could find whatever i wanted as soon as i told myself i want to find it, but i had to concentrate/focus on my surroundings or else my conciousness would slip away and i would soon wake up. something similair in my levitation dreams... if i tried to levitate, i had to relax my body totally or else the levitation would just teeter on and off. anybody care to add their 2 cents? | ||
Cpl Member Post Number: 199 Registered: 08-2004 |
Hi Peter, One levitation dream I had was of walking on water. I felt my bare feet touching the water lightly. I was with other people who were also doing something like this. It was something akin to a firewalk, but on water. The place was a special kind of pond in a high frequency area and the rocks all around were hexagonal column shaped. One week after the dream I was astounded to see a picture of a site like the one I was walking over. It was Giant's Causeway in Ireland. I had never seen a picture or heard anything about that place beforehand. The dream had a very powerful effect on me for over a month. I knew that in the dream I was in a different place or on a different level from this physical world; but it left me feeling the absolute certainty that walking over -- or on -- water could be done on this earth if one were in the right state of consciousness. I really felt as though I could do it at the time, although in practice I did not. cpl | ||
Peter_brodowski Member Post Number: 213 Registered: 01-2004 |
hey cpl, interesting, i've experienced similair things, like precognitive dreams in cryptic stylings. i too think that one can walk on water, i'm sure many are capable of it, but just have too busy of lives to sit down and put in the effort, although even if you do have time (i learned from dedicating much time a day to these things) that you cant hurry certain things. so i dont feel disappointed when i dont get the results i want. i'm sure it's happend to some people. "I knew that in the dream I was in a different place or on a different level from this physical world;" -i have wondered about dreams and the reality of what they are. i've read what billy said but ofcourse he'll only give you a taste of the whole pie. so i formed my own logical conclusions and so i think i agree with you about being on a differnt level of time and space on earth, or whereever. think of this, if one can project his or her conciousness conciously with practice, possibly we do it during sleep, from the will of our sub concious, or whatever part of you is making the decisions in sleeptime. i have had dreams where i am on different planets, from the looks of them, not planets with human life-sustaining friendly atmospheres. so i wonder if some people if not all, travel via conciousness to all sorts of places in this universe. if you like i can email you and we can talk about personal experiences further? speaking of ireland, are you familiar with the castles of ireland? i've been trying to find this one particular castle that i seen in a dream, but i have not since been able to locate it, i dont even know it's name or where it specifically is. ireland has lots of castles. | ||
Cpl Member Post Number: 201 Registered: 08-2004 |
Peter, I cannot promise to answer much by private mail as I am always very busy, but if you want to take the chance, you could try this email address: gbcyd@yahoo.com. I've never been to Ireland and know almost nothing of its castles. Know something of the British and Japanese castles. That's all really. Let me know by email if you'd like to be notified of any premonition dreams I have and I'll add you to the list (this goes for anyone else reading this, too). My premonition dreams are dreams that specificaly seem to be premonitions and not other dreams, of which, like everyone else I have many. Last year there were many premonition dreams covering the many hurricanes and disasters resulting in death around the planet. This year there have been few, though two just recently hinting at a possible strange or unusual winter -- though they may have been more generic about where the planet is headed weather-wise. Best, | ||
Tony Member Post Number: 90 Registered: 01-2006 |
"so i wonder if some people if not all, travel via conciousness to all sorts of places in this universe." Hi Peter, I'm not sure if i'm following what you mean correctly there, because I'm unsure why you think/wonder that ALL earth people might be actually capable of doing that with their consciousness. Wouldn't that be very unlikely to be the case? I don't know how many people in the world there are who could do that, but I would have thought it probably be only a very few who could, or maybe even just Billy, like when he visited Semjase when she had the accident. | ||
Peter_brodowski Member Post Number: 214 Registered: 01-2004 |
hey tony, from what i understand, when those types of informations were presented by billy and the plejarens, that was years ago... also, if the plejarens had to take 3 years into the abduction cases and the validity of the claims, well that opens the door to many possibilities. i dont mean that all earth people can do it, but that each human has the potential to do it. IT would be very unlikely, if you are looking at it from the point of view that only billy and the plejarens words are truthfull in regards to this matter, and that their words are the only source to which you should form your own opinions on the matter. (hope that makes sense). that's right, we dont know how many people can do that, and unless the plejarens keep tabs on us round the clock, and penetrate our thoughts (which from what i understand according to billy's answer to my question, is that that would be against their "laws") then i would say they dont know either. things can change in a matter of moments depending on what you realize and how hard you strive for certain things etc. i know this from experience that one moment you see nothing but darkness on the horizon, and all of a sudden you blink once and there is a huge sun rising in the near distance. i think billy has mentioned that there is like a hand full of people who can control weather, project their conciousness etc. and less than 2 or 3 people who can actually bend spoons with their mind. dont quote me though, i read it all on this forum, just do a search and see where it leads you, contact memo00, he has some interesting things to say about that. it would be great to get a new "status report" like the one in and yet they fly (or and still they fly?) where it mentions all the various percentages and amounts of people who made this and that kind of contact, how many peoples brain quotient is this and this much etc. i would'nt rely on info from years ago when considering these matters. | ||
Tony Member Post Number: 91 Registered: 01-2006 |
"IT would be very unlikely, if you are looking at it from the point of view that only billy and the plejarens words are truthfull in regards to this matter, and that their words are the only source to which you should form your own opinions on the matter." Hi Peter, but they are the only source that I form my opinions from! I personally don't accept any spiritual information that anyone else has to say or claims is the truth in regards to spiritual matters. The only source of spiritual information that I do take and readily accept as being the truth is only from Billy and the Plejarens, because I know they would never lie or mislead people in regards to spiritual knowledge/information. I guess there probably are some people out there with a good level of spiritual knowledge who are capable of teaching others, but I don't know who any of them are, or would I be prepared to take any chances there believing anything anyone else has to say other then from Billy and the Plejarens. | ||
Rarena Member Post Number: 98 Registered: 10-2005 |
It is my understanding the FIGU calls dreams imaginations and wishful thinking of the psyche an outdated term for "soul" and is also called ego, the little part of us. Since we are more material than spiritual; Billy has told us we only have a very small percentage of "life giving Creation" within each of our brains... we have to increase this part of ourselves in order to become more balanced. We've taken the material technology from our off planet teachers, now it's time to learn the "spirituality" part of the deal. As to lucid dreaming, that has been my experience with the guidance of Alumni from Stanford U.. Looking at it as a purely imaginative exersize... that is... non-physical experiential reality with no limits; the dreams are interactive and can be manipulated somewhat by the conscious? mind. Telepathy was a form of communication practiced by my father and taught to me making possible the ability to call each other on the phone when we felt we needed to talk. This saved his life one time when he was suffering from a stoke and I had not called him for several months. After talking with him his speech was slurring, told him to hang up and called 911 to have them get an ambulance 123 miles away from where I was... This was quite a coincidence and the doctor told me he could have died and it was within ten minutes of his attack. Also... using this technique to find out if there were people on a blind curb (we lived high on a hill with winding roads) and if they were just people walking or cars was also distiunguisable aprox. 90% of the time. This of course could be just my imagination although, the percentages of hits seemed to outweigh this... not really sure. The most important things in life are sometimes invisable: try living without love or oxygen for any amount of time... Tschüs... Love to all... rarena ô¿ô Ancient Lyrian coded to Earth peace meditation: Saalome gam naan ben uurda, gan njjber asaala hesporoona. Please see here for correct pronunciation: http://www.theyfly.com/salome/salome.htm English: Peace be on Earth, and among all beings. | ||
Peter_brodowski Member Post Number: 215 Registered: 01-2004 |
hey tony, that's good for you, that you will trust only billy and the plejarens. i would like to think having trust in yourself and not being afraid of being wrong is also just as healthy. i guess i am like your oppposite, i take many chances and embrace the opportunity. well, i dont think dreams simply imaginations and wishful thinking, where do premonition dreams lay within those two definitions? i have heard 3 or 4 different definitions of what dreams are according to billy, from people on this forum, so i would feel fine going with my gut (like billy suggests). | ||
Cpl Member Post Number: 204 Registered: 08-2004 |
Hi Tony, "The only source of spiritual information that I do take and readily accept as being the truth is only from Billy and the Plejarens, because I know they would never lie or mislead people in regards to spiritual knowledge/information." But we know for a fact they have given false information, both through error (being human) and when it suited their purposes (and presumably they thought, our purposes too). | ||
Peter_brodowski Member Post Number: 219 Registered: 01-2004 |
dont the plejarens and billy say not to simply trust and believe people? but to challenge the information presented? or else you are just another lamb like in the herd of all those religeous sheep? so to believe in somebodies words due to some belief that they will always be truthfull, is'nt that the opposite of what billy and plejarens teach? | ||
Gaiaguysnet Member Post Number: 358 Registered: 03-2004 |
Dear Peter, You wrote, in your 215th posting, "... i would feel fine going with my gut (like billy suggests)." Where does Billy suggest this? Could you please cite your reference? Thanks. Salome, Dyson | ||
Peter_brodowski Member Post Number: 221 Registered: 01-2004 |
dyson, i read it on figu forum, and i dont recall if it was direct quotes from billy or somebody else said that this is what they read in one of billy's writtings. i'll try looking for it right now, if i find it i find it, otherwise people have their own judgement. if there's some kind of problem with what i wrote then go talk to scott. | ||
Tony Member Post Number: 93 Registered: 01-2006 |
peter and cpl, why should i listen to billy and the plejarens as the only source of spiritual information when considering that they know more about the spirit teachings then anyone else on this planet or should i say this universe?? ptaah is JWHW and Billy is nickodomien. How would anyone know if the spirit teachings they are accepting as being the truth from anyone else other then billy or the plejarens IS the truth?? | ||
Tony Member Post Number: 94 Registered: 01-2006 |
correction - ....why shouldn't i listen to billy and the plejarens.... | ||
Peter_brodowski Member Post Number: 222 Registered: 01-2004 |
while you are at it dyson, you might wish to go look over my other posts as i may not have provided specific references to things said that i may or may not be 100% sure about. i figure you will want to try to make an example of me, so i figure i'll help you out in that regard. let me know if one of your readers were affected by my somewhat careless choice to speak on behalf of somebody without providing the quotes. i would'nt want to discredit you as you have stated before. infact i hereby distance myself from you and all things you say for the record, just so there's no way of my words discrediting you. |
