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Peter_brodowski
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Post Number: 277
Registered: 01-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 13, 2007 - 06:26 pm: | 
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hey tony,
i agree they may have been influenced, (some certainly were influenced by crowley, like dickinson for example)
dickinson is also influenced a lot by egyptian mythology
the link you provided is religeous brainwashing.
just out of curiosity, are you religeous?
why would you recomend that video specifically?
dont you think it's biased?
why do you feel it proves anything?
the proof is all around, it's on the cover of the beatles album like you mentioned. it's not like these bands hide it.
and for the record, ozzy osbourne is fairly religeous from what i have seen.
also, where is the evidence that crowly sacrifieced hundreds of children?
"satanic evangalist" ozzy?
note how this religeous spin doctor is paraphrasing and telling people what this or that person really means etc.
what are you getting at with this highly recomended video?
i could name off a dozen bias statements in the first 10 minutes in that video, but it's not worth the time.
what's your real intention? |
Markc
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Post Number: 451
Registered: 06-2000
| | Posted on Thursday, February 15, 2007 - 01:08 am: |
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Tony . Tony . Tony .
Let's not get all ready for a hangin' , shall we not ?
First ,alot of rock and roll bands in England are proud of anyone English , good or bad ( our own parallel in the American folk anti-heroes , the gunfighters )
You forgot Jimmy Page of Led Zeppelin , who bought Crowley's castle .Wrote songs about him too .
It stands to reason that what we know today from the internet has a different tone than what was available in books of the 1960's ( which would be recent books for those young bands ,then ).
So , you might consider that what the bands were aligning themselves with wasn't about the milkshakes that Crowley ( non-alledgedly) made with babies , but anything that was anti-establishment and wierd .
Of course , Mick Jagger and Jimmy Page didn't email each other in the 70's , with links to the baby sandwich-making link from Crowley's ( non-alledged ) child-recipe book , did they ?
Alvin Lee ( Ten Years After) had a Peace emblem painted onto his Gibson ES-335 . Was he promoting war , as we recognize with the ancient symbol of war , the 60's peace symbol ?
Of cour snot !
MC
Mark Campbell
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Mario
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Post Number: 27
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, February 15, 2007 - 08:41 am: |
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Please, go back to the topic... 
Thanks Mario, you took the words right out of my brain!!...Scott |
Tony
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Post Number: 117
Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Friday, February 16, 2007 - 02:53 am: |
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Scott, I know you asked to get back to the topic in this thread but I hope it if you would allow me the chance to briefly reply to those few questions that a couple of people had just asked me of me here. I hope you allow me to do that, thanks Scott.
Ok Tony, but please this is the last one, anyone else needs to respond in the correct category.
Peter:
"the link you provided is religeous brainwashing."
"just out of curiosity, are you religeous?"
"why would you recomend that video specifically?"
"why do you feel it proves anything?"
Hi Peter, of course I am not religous and I am surprised you asked me that question too. That video I recommended you watch naturally has to have the religous content/garbage filtered out of it, and i didn't mention that because I didn't think it was necessary.
I suppose it depends on how you feel about the material/info provided and mentioned in that video and how it sits for you too. For me, most of it sat ok, and is why I thought/expected it would also sit ok with you there too. But I see now that it didn't, and i respect your opinion/choice there.
btw, did you watch all the video, or just some? The reason I ask is because I felt that video did provide quite a few solid points and material on the matter.
I hope you don't mind if I ask you if you have done any other research into this matter (apart from that video) before giving your opinion there?
btw, on the matter of Ozzy Osbourne you mentioned there, did you know that Ozzy Osbourne called Crowley a "phenomenon of his time" (Circus, August, 26, 1980) Ozzy even recorded a song of tribute to Crowley — Mr. Crowley:
. . . You fooled all the people with magic
You waited on Satan's call . . .
Mr. Crowley, won't you ride my white horse
Mr. Crowley - Ozzy Osbourne
Markc:
"Tony.......Let's not get all ready for a hangin' , shall we not ?
First ,alot of rock and roll bands in England are proud of anyone English , good or bad ( our own parallel in the American folk anti-heroes , the gunfighters )
You forgot Jimmy Page of Led Zeppelin , who bought Crowley's castle .Wrote songs about him too .
It stands to reason that what we know today from the internet has a different tone than what was available in books of the 1960's ( which would be recent books for those young bands ,then ).
So , you might consider that what the bands were aligning themselves with wasn't about the milkshakes that Crowley ( non-alledgedly) made with babies , but anything that was anti-establishment and wierd ."
Hi Mark, did you watch the video? I hope you don't mind if I ask you if you have also done any other research into this matter (apart from just that video) before giving your opinion there?
I disagree with what you said there about Rock Bands and Musicians (past and present) that have aligned themselves somewhat with Aleister Crowley have done it ONLY for the purpose of helping bands to be seen in an "anti-establishment" and "wierd" COOL image and way to their legions of fans/listeners, and not ALSO with the intention of HELPING to spread Crowley's satanic material and teachings to the populace too. Mark, I think if you looked a little deeper/further into this A/C music matter (apart from just that video) you might/should discover that you are wrong there in thinking/believing that the alignment factor that past rock bands had to Crowley doesn't go much/any further then being one of - bands doing it purely to help them being seen in a COOL IMAGE to fans.
But it can't be just about an image thing anyway. Take for instance the rock band "Iron Maiden" which has been one of the most popular heavy metal rock band for the past 20 years. As you know I already mentioned on the previous page that it's singer Bruce Dickinson is currently in the process (dec 2006) of producing a movie about Aleister Crowley. Is that just about an image thingo there, and what about some of the bands song lyrics? Here are the lyrics too Iron Maidens "Man of Sorrows" song.
Here's the lyrics to a 'power ballad' he wrote about Aleister Crowley.
Bruce Dickinson- Man Of Sorrows
Here, in a church, a small boy is kneeling
He prays to a god he does not know, he cannot feel
All of his sins of childhood he will remember
He will not cry, tears he will not cry
Man of sorrows, I won't see your face
Man of sorrows, you left without a trace
His small boy wonders, what was it all about?
Is your journey over - has it just begun?
Vision of a new world from the ashes of the old
"Do what thou wilt!", he screams from his cursed soul
A tortured seer, a prophet of our emptiness
Wondering why, wondering why...
Man of sorrows, I won't see your face
(I won't see your face)
Man of sorrows, you left without a trace
His small boy wonders, what was it all about?
Is your journey over - has it just begun?
A man of sorrows, wrecked
With thoughts that dare not speak their name
Trapped inside a body, made to feel only guilt and shame
His anger all his life - "I hate myself!", he cried
"Do what thou wilt!"
"Do what thou wilt!", he cried
Man of sorrows, I won't see your face
(I won't see your face)
Man of sorrows, you left without a trace
(left without a trace)
His small boy wonders, what was it all about?
Is your journey over - has it just begun?
Also check out the lyrics to Iron Maidens songs called "Revelations" and "666 - the number of the beast"
btw Mark, on the matter of Led Zeppelin that you mentioned there to me, are you aware that one of Crowley's most devout disciples is Led Zeppelin guitarist, Jimmy Page. Page, even bought Crowley's "house of horrors" — Boleskine, located on Lock Ness. Boleskine was the home Crowley performed his "satanic-magick", including blood sacrifices. Crowley was buried inside a dark chamber in Boleskine. Crowley's most famous teaching was "Do what thou wilt shalt be the whole of the law". Page had inscribed in the vinyl on Zeppelin's Third album, Led Zeppelin III, "Do what thou wilt. So mete it Be." Unbeknown to concert goers, Page would actually perform Crowley rituals during some of Zeppelin's concerts.
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Peter and Mark, I think you should both look/research much deeper in this matter before accussing me of jumping the gun there, so to speak. I don't believe I have, but instead think (respectfully) that its probably both of you that have. I think you should both look a little further/deeper into this matter. Here is one good example to look into. It's a MUST READ article/report, by Donald Phau, at website listed below, which gives an incredible lengthy and informative account of what could very well be the TRUE origins, nature and purpose of some of the biggest rock bands in the world, (past and present) in aligning themselves with satanist Aleister Crowley, and not just being for a COOL IMAGE. And the article especially talks in length about The Beatless and The Rolling Stones in regards to that, as well as also many others listed therein such as Black Sabbath, The Who, Ozzy Osbourne, Iron Maiden, ect. I will just copy and past a little bit of the start of article and then hope you both continue reading from there. The article starts off by pointing out how some of the world's leading record companies (from 60's and now) are linked to military organisations and goes on from there on. I hope you both take the time to thoroughly check this out. I'll also list after that, the NAMES of the chapters that follow there after too.
THE SATANIC ROOTS OF ROCK
by Donald Phau
Today, at almost any "heavy-metal " rock concert one can hear the audience being exhorted to rape and murder in the name of Satan. Lyrics such as the following are typical:
We come bursting through your bodies
Rape your helpless soul
Transform you into a creature
Merciless and cold
We force you to kill your brother
Eat his blood and brain
Shredding flesh and sucking bone
Till everyone's insane
We are pestilent and contaminate
The world Demonic legions prevail
Any loving parent today would be horrified and shocked to learn that their sons and daughters are eagerly listening to such evil. Perhaps though, some may think privately, "If only we could return to the 'good old days,' with the music of the Beatles. " Little do most people suspect that it was with those innocent-looking Beatles, that most of the trouble started. Modern electronic-rock music, inaugurated in the early 1960s, is, and always has been, a joint enterprise of British military intelligence and Satanic cults. On the one side, the Satanists control the major rock groups through drugs, sex, threats of violence, and even murder. On the otherside, publicity, tours, and recordings are financed by record companies connected to British military intelligence circles. Both sides are intimately entwined with the biggest business in the world, the international drug trade. The so-called "rock stars " are pathetic puppets caught in a much larger scheme. From the moment they receive their first recording royalties, the groups are heavily immersed in drugs. For example, much-admired "stars " such as John Lennon of the Beatles and Keith Richard of the Rolling Stones, were heroin addicts.............................
Names of following Chapters are -
Creating the Beatles
Lockwood and EMI
Up from the Dregs: The Rolling Stones
Enter Satan
Creating the Counterculture
Manson and the Rock Stars
The Age of Aquarius
The Experiment Begins
Altamont: the Making Of a Snuff Film
Behind "Heavy-Metal " Rock
http://100777.com/node/151
http://webusers.physics.umn.edu/~duvernoi/satan.html |
Peter_brodowski
Member
Post Number: 278
Registered: 01-2004
| | Posted on Friday, February 16, 2007 - 10:55 am: |
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here's a poem, this is the only reasonable way i can post this also...
hey tony can i get you r email, as we dont want to take up space here and get off topic, but i have more points to make, and i want to properly adress your reply. thanks
loveless soldier
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what are you running from?
i'm not the one
that's holding the gun,
loveless soldier
better hurry up
the war is almost over
where are you coming from?
what do you want to say
with that pistol
pointed in the wrong way,
lovelss soldier
hurry the hell up
because her lips are getting colder
loveless soldier
in a time of war
penetrating the lands
like the world was a whore,
loveless soldier...
let's sit down and talk it over
when will it all be done
when you are the one
that's under the thumb?
loveless soldier
just waiting for the next order.
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actually that's a song i wrote, put it's all poetry in my eyes. |
Tony
Member
Post Number: 118
Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Friday, February 16, 2007 - 02:44 pm: |
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"hey tony can i get you r email, as we dont want to take up space here and get off topic, but i have more points to make, and i want to properly adress your reply. thanks"
yeah sure peter, I'd like that too.
it175@bigpond.net.au |
Mario
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Post Number: 30
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, February 18, 2007 - 01:46 am: |
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Hi, these are some works I did some time ago...
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Mario
Member
Post Number: 30
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, February 18, 2007 - 01:52 am: |
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Two more...
Enough, I think. Have a nice day!
Mario |
Michael
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Post Number: 557
Registered: 10-2000
| | Posted on Sunday, February 18, 2007 - 04:59 pm: |
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Really, really good!
Michael Horn
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Peter_brodowski
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Post Number: 279
Registered: 01-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, February 18, 2007 - 05:17 pm: |
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hey mario thos are great, especially the last one |
Gaiaguysnet
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Post Number: 507
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, February 18, 2007 - 06:11 pm: |
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Mario, Mario, Mario!
BRILLIANT!
We are looking for political cartoonists. Please check out our front page @ www.gaiaguys.net and please let us know if you’d like the job. Of course the pay ($000.00 per week) is lousy, but you WILL help save our planet and get your name in the history books (if we all survive to HAVE history books!) and we can submit draft sketches for you for what we have in mind.
Either respond here on the FIGU list, please, or gaiaguys@gaiaguys.net
I hope that you will think about our job offer seriously, and bear in mind that you couldn’t BUY the sort of publicity you’d get from our multi-million hits-per-day website, in case you ever decide you want to draw cartoons for a living – assuming you don’t already.
Please consider!
Cheers!
Dyson |
Mario
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Post Number: 30
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, February 18, 2007 - 11:56 pm: |
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Hey Dyson,
Of course. Absolutely. Count me in.
And thank you all for your kind comments!
Best regards
Mario |
Gaiaguysnet
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Post Number: 509
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Monday, February 19, 2007 - 12:14 pm: |
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Dear Mario!
Please contact us!
We are VERY happy, since a picture says a thousand words, and we've already got a few milion of THEM!
:-))))))))))))))))
CHEERS!
Dyson |
James
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Post Number: 38
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, February 25, 2007 - 10:22 pm: |
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Melli thank you for the offer and as much as I'd like to exchange Hemisync CDs, it's probably better we don't due to copyright etc.
Welcome to Earth!
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Melli
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Post Number: 235
Registered: 06-2005
| | Posted on Friday, March 02, 2007 - 10:27 pm: |
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Hi Mario,
I always said that when next time I incarnate on earth i want to be a Cartoonist, truly.
You how how they say that It is easier to write 'drama' than comedy, it is easier to make a person cry than to make them laugh, can you maybe draw Billy in a comical appearance yet true to his mission, depicting his hardship yet his playfulness as well? Send it to him and see what he says. Tell him I said he needs to laugh too, infact we all need to. We know and understand about his hardship but maybe Dyson can enlighten us about his other moods from the German printed info. Possible?
I quote from "Basic Rules Of Man" verse 34
"Each human being shall always be open for all things, so he may constantly find much that is mysterious and exciting in his life, that which brings him surprise and astonishment, perhaps even robbing him of his breath in joyful shock and letting him be forever young". Cheers, |
Gaiaguysnet
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Post Number: 527
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, March 03, 2007 - 06:04 pm: |
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Dear Melli, et al,
Mario is a genius, and we are delighted that he’s agreed to do some work for gaiaguys. (Keep your eye on www.gaiaguys.net/marent.htm, as there are new ones there already!) Like you, I wish I could draw/think like that! But I count my many other blessings. :-)
Asking me to comment about Billy, the man, only from his writing is probably not as good an idea as asking some of the fortunate people here who have actually MET him, and there are even some here who have known him long enough to call him a personal friend.
But even from his work, both Vivienne and I love him dearly, and he is so very obviously a uniquely wonderful human being – not “god-like” at all, it seems, except in his great love and wisdom. As I’ve previously written, compared to ANYBODY else’s literature (except the Plejaren), Billy Meier stands like a giant above pigmies. I include all our planet’s Great Minds. I’ve read a lot, believe me, but BEAM is in a class all his own for depth, lucidity, and just plane old SMARTS.
Billy is reportedly very human, in that he does occasionally raise his voice (as Sfath advised in 1945) when the situation calls for it, and – from what I gather from the Gelion series – has the same sort of healthy masculine appreciation for the female form that I do, and the same enjoyment of and respect for feminine company. And loathing of bullies.
Perhaps some of those who have met Billy might want to add more, so it’s not just hearsay from me. But, after reading his books, I feel like I know him. What a privilege to be alive in this time of the Prophet of the Golden Age, and, better yet, to play the role we do in trying to help him. Thank (and praise) Creation!
Cheers!
Dyson |
Matt
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Post Number: 86
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, March 03, 2007 - 10:10 pm: |
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"Billy is reportedly very human, in that he does occasionally raise his voice (as Sfath advised in 1945) when the situation calls for it, and – from what I gather from the Gelion series – has the same sort of healthy masculine appreciation for the female form that I do, and the same enjoyment of and respect for feminine company."
Dyson are you speaking there of billy having the healthy masculine attribute of a male wanting to seek out females for the pleasure of having sex with them? If so, I take it this is after billys divorce.
Good on him I say, why should billy being the prophet of age mean that he should have to go without sex. |
Mario
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Post Number: 32
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, March 03, 2007 - 10:21 pm: |
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Dear Melli,
Thanks a lot for your beautiful words. And, yes, I have in mind a cartoon with Billy and all the band, including Wendelle Stevens, Michael Horn, Semjase, Brit and Lee Elders, Asket, Ptaah, Quetzal, Sfaath (in a special way), Men in Black, Gary Kinder, Jim Dilettoso (and Scott in a surprising guest appearance)... I'd like to add Dyson, Vivienne and Christian Frehner, but I don't know how they look like... I'll find a way to include them.
This idea came originally from a pic I saw months ago with a well armed Billy hunting flies. I thought of forming the word "religions" with flies and good old Billy eliminating them... then, around him, a series of humoristic images I had of the people I mentioned (think of Asket asking if we like her new hairstyle with blue, yellow and green additions in her now red hair and little MIB saying "I liked her more as a blonde" as they are kept motionless in Quetzal's hands)... I haven't draw it yet, but I'm going to, and when it's finished I'll post it here. I hope none of the above feels offended if I draw them. And you are right, Melli, we need to laugh, we really need it in this world.
Best regards
Mario |
Gaiaguysnet
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Post Number: 528
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, March 04, 2007 - 10:13 am: |
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Dear Matt,
You wrote, "...the healthy masculine attribute of a male wanting to seek out females for the pleasure of having sex with them?"
Cripes, man. You are smooth. :-/
No. I meant the healthy masculine attribute of a male wanting to seek out females for the innocent pleasure of their pleasant company as fellow human beings. When and if (!) a man can learn that woman are also quite interesting human beings, it's much better for both camps. Or forgive me if I've missed your subtle comic irony, Matt.
Billy has a spouse named Eva to whom I have no doubt he is faithful. They have a daughter named Selina.
Dear Mario,
Wow! I like the concept! What an honor! Don't forget Jim Deardorff & Guido Moosbrugger. (There are pix of Vivienne and me on our website which I can point out to you in a private email.)
That fly-hunter photo begs for captions, eh?
Cheers!
Dyson |
Mario
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Post Number: 33
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, March 04, 2007 - 09:46 pm: |
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Dyson!
Yes, they are part of that idea too, I just forgot to mention them in my last post and, yes, I saw that pic of Billy hunting flies in your website.
Stay healthy and translator
Mario |
Melli
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Post Number: 238
Registered: 06-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, March 04, 2007 - 11:01 pm: |
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Dear Mario,
What a wonderful and exciting work you do, I wish I could the same but maybe I will on my next visit to this planet. I wanted to remind you not to forget to include Michael Horn. And also if you want to include Christian Frehner you can see him and get an idea of what he looks like on Michael's DVD with W. Stevens at a UFO conference in 2005(?). How liberating it must feel - you don't have to worry about being "Politically correct"!
If you don't mind maybe? when you have done it I would really like it posted to my email adress so I can print it and put up on my wall and wait to hear people's comments. My imagination is running away with me already..... I need a good belly laugh, I am sure we all do. |
Markc
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Post Number: 454
Registered: 06-2000
| | Posted on Monday, March 05, 2007 - 04:05 pm: |
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Hi Mario ;
I just wanted to show appreciation for your art and comedy . It's a rare mind that can make all of those connections consistently , it's how your mind works .I love that style of cartooning ,I'm a big fan of "The far Side" .
Regards , Mark
Mark Campbell
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Jacobus
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Post Number: 7
Registered: 07-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 06, 2007 - 09:29 pm: |
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Not mine, but it is inspiring to know that this artwork was done on a computer! |
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