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Scott
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Post Number: 1235
Registered: 12-1999
Posted on Thursday, June 28, 2007 - 01:06 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Bob,

Is there a distinction being made between showering versus bathing, or soaking in the tub? I was under the impression when you bath in a tub it can weaken the aura, whereas a shower doesn't have the same effect?

Thanks
Scott
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Francofiori2004
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Post Number: 41
Registered: 03-2007
Posted on Thursday, June 28, 2007 - 01:19 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Where Billy wrote that water purify stones fron negative vibs?
An amazing invention for natural health:
WWW.ETERNARINGS.COM
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Phi_spiral
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Post Number: 83
Registered: 03-2007
Posted on Thursday, June 28, 2007 - 04:43 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That’s right, Scott, showers are much better than baths, but even water from a shower should be kept to a minimum. Dyson had posted some excerpts from Billy’s book “Directiven” that addresses this for anyone who’s interested.

The Plejaren evidently shower about once a week. They don’t bathe in tubs. They don’t use soap. Sweat is reportedly very important as a natural antibiotic.

BTW, to illustrate what I was saying earlier in post #82 about the energetic/vibrational exchange from physical contact, the P’s will even wash their hands (ultrasound, not soap) if they make contact with another person's skin.

Regards
Bob
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Scott
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Post Number: 1236
Registered: 12-1999
Posted on Thursday, June 28, 2007 - 05:33 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Bob,

Personally, one week without a shower is really pushing it with me :-) Possibly because the Plejarens live in a considerably less toxic atmosphere and overall better living conditions with better quality foods, the need for the body to detoxify itself is reduced to the point that once per week will suffice...whereas here it is a completely different story...and showers are needed more frequently...

Regards
Scott
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Kingman
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Post Number: 265
Registered: 07-2004
Posted on Thursday, June 28, 2007 - 08:01 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My current experiences...

The more I eat junk food and the more I am near industrial elements ( like in a workshop ) the more my body odor becomes apparent. But when I surf, or eat better, and employ myself closer to natural settings, the farther in between showers I am able to go before I start to ripen.

If I go to far between showers I lose incentive, clarity and other abilities. I also seem to feel heavier. This directly reduces any progressive direction I may have been gaining in until I get cleaned up. A bit similar to when a work area is badly cluttered it becomes more difficult to maintain a clear directive on work projects.
a friend in america
Shawn
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Thomas
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Post Number: 301
Registered: 03-2004
Posted on Friday, June 29, 2007 - 12:49 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Actually you guys, in "Directiven" which I have read in its entirety, BEAM RECOMMENDS a BATH once a week to loosen any dirt that a shower may not have eliminated during the week. It seems that we all need to look more fully into our reference materials before making claims as if they are a certainty. That includes me as well.
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Cpl
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Post Number: 276
Registered: 08-2004
Posted on Friday, June 29, 2007 - 09:01 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I thought the Ps showering in ultrasound waves, obviated the need for regular showering with water. Or maybe that's just the way I read it. Maybe when we learn enough about ultrasound to use it as a cleanser we too will not need to shower with water.
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Phi_spiral
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Post Number: 84
Registered: 03-2007
Posted on Friday, June 29, 2007 - 12:39 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes, you're quite right Thomas, Billy does say that. I simply did not mention it in my post because the point I was making is that the shower is preferable over the bathe. The example you state is more of an exception.

Smell you later :-)
Bob
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Kingman
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Post Number: 266
Registered: 07-2004
Posted on Friday, June 29, 2007 - 01:50 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I forgot to state I only take baths about every 5-10 days besides washing my face daily. All depends on what I've doing.
a friend in america
Shawn
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Edward
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Post Number: 811
Registered: 05-2002
Posted on Saturday, June 30, 2007 - 01:15 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Franco....


I understand what you mean.

In the manner we can 'clean' the gems or stones and crystals..etc, today, are
not - Fully Cleaned -, if you will. There will always be a minimum of Fluidal
Forces, thought, present; but it's working/effect, is very minimal. But for our
evolution level, it would be sufficient( our technology has not reached such
level).

The manner how the Baawi Cleaned the SSSC grounds, would of course, be the
appropriate and true/authentic manner to truly Neutralize the Fludial Forces.

And such 'precise device' as Semjase mentioned: would be such device.


Edward.
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Edward
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Post Number: 812
Registered: 05-2002
Posted on Saturday, June 30, 2007 - 01:46 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Scott, Thomas, Bob and All....


Scott: Well, it would be better to take short showers of some 3-4 mins. Which I
do myself, every day(unless I did some dirty work, or something; than longer).
And in the weekend, I would do a 'Fully Scrubbing Job', so to speak. And ever
once and awhile, a tub. Which does indeed leave a dirt ring in the tub.

In Indonesia, or as some of my family members did, was: clean/wash their
faces(including ears), feet(legs slightly), arm pits(arms slightly) and private
parts...with a hand-glove. And in the weekends, take a Tub bath, or a shower
'Fully Scrubbing Job'. So, the mentioned manner seems to also be quit suitable.


Thomas: we do not always have the references here, but it is positive for you
to mention...what you have read. And we must keep in mind, that Billy lets us
also, THINK....for ourselves.


Bob: I am such person also; when I even Hand-shake, I do try and make sure I
can wash my hands. And any time I come from going outdoors(out, shopping,
visit....etc): first thing I do is wash my hands...when I get home. Have always
done this.

And very true about the 'Sweat'. The fluid and salt, and other minerals
contents truly have a natural working/effect on our skin....etc. That too, has
to be kept in Balance, in a Natural manner.


Edward.
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Thomas
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Post Number: 303
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Posted on Saturday, June 30, 2007 - 02:30 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The mentioned device in that contact was a pyramid of proper construction. This info comes from FIGU itself. If you doubt this, then please write to them and ask yourself. There is no mysterious mechanism...just a proper pyramid.
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Edward
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Post Number: 814
Registered: 05-2002
Posted on Saturday, June 30, 2007 - 12:38 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Thomas....


I do not know if you are directing your post to Franco or me?

But of course the Pyramid is known; at least to me. Maybe Franco
misunderstood something, here, on this subject? Could be a language barrier?

I was referring to how the Baawi Cleansed the SSSC at the time, and just
offered that possibility. With what ever device they cleansed the SSSC
with(outside of the known Pyramid) being more effective(perhaps in a compact
format).

Though, I think such a device, can cleans much more sufficient and effective,
than a Pyramid, perhaps?

Of course, a Pyramid can cleans much better than the other known common
sources.


Edward.
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Thomas
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Post Number: 306
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Posted on Saturday, June 30, 2007 - 11:45 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I was refering to the fact that even though I don't know the method by which the center was cleared, I do know that the contact that Franco mentioned refers specifically to a properly constructed pyramid (in reference to clearing the negative forces out of precious stones, etc.). That info came from FIGU rather than a book by them.
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Edward
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Post Number: 822
Registered: 05-2002
Posted on Sunday, July 15, 2007 - 08:35 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Internity....

Will indeed post here, OK.

Welcome to the FIGU board.

Concerning your posting on: Grieving and processing the unfair and horrible
events occurring during these very difficult times would help the psyche and
spirit to grow stronger.


Indeed, One does become - Callous - in One's Spirit, or in more simple terms:
HARD(EN), in (the) Spirit...so that One can box against today's worldly
situations.

If One does not do so, One will become a 'weakling', and not survive....his/her
life-time(s).

So, to become HARD(EN)...IS to Understand and to Survive, and thus...not, to
take a HARD(EN) approach towards One's fellowman; but more in the sense of
One's Own....Individual...Spiritual Growth(acquire: Knowledge and Wisdom).

To gain Spiritual HARDINESS...is to generate the 'Backbone' to One's Life and
Existence. If this Backbone is not generated through Life Experiences, than One
will Surly Crumble, into the weakling whom had not learned his/her Life
Lessons, as they should have!


Pleasant Studying.....

Edward.
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Scott
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Post Number: 1333
Registered: 12-1999
Posted on Friday, October 19, 2007 - 10:38 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello,

This is something I have been wondering about with regards to the structure of families on this planet. It seems certain cultures will allow their “off spring” to stay at home when the kids are well into their 30’s and in some cases later. While other families, the kids will leave the parents by 18 or 19 years of age, and never return. In one sense the families, which allow their kids to stay at home, there is a sense of community or togetherness, and it is less expensive for the kids. While families who’s kids tend to leave as soon as they can, there is less burden on the parents, and the kids tend to be more independent at a younger age.

It seems in the animal world, the parents offer assistance to the young, until the young are capable of surviving on their own, and then at some point they must survive, or they will die.

My question, are both of these different ways of raising children considered natural and in accordance with the laws of Creation or perhaps I may not be seeing this correctly.

Any Comments?

Regards
Scott
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Hector
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Post Number: 330
Registered: 04-2006
Posted on Friday, October 19, 2007 - 12:26 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I read something time ago about a creational law which was the obligation to assist civilizations which were threatened by cosmic catastrophes.

It seems like assistance to underdeveloped humans is a natural/creational law in cases of emergency.Children, compared to adults, are also not mature, underdeveloped,not prepared to bear responsibilty.So it seems logical that the parents are obliged to assist and teach their kids until they (the parents) consider their children can be on their own.There is a process of tutoring, exemplarizing, teaching, caring, common evolution.There is a point where the kid/son is able to learn more on his own than in companion of the parents.But the parents must really know if they can pass the baton safely.Its their responsibility.

The p's also assist earthhumans in a fraternal/parental way.Giving advice and good counsel.But the ultimate responsibility corresponds to the earthhuman.

The p's are not psychologically mature until their 70's.Arahat athersata also does not recommend to have children in your 20`s.I guess the 18-19 year old mark is too early to take excessive, full responsibility as an adult.

Our modern society (unfairly) rewards unlimited free will.I can do whatever i want.That includes degeneration such as orgies, excessive drinking, drugs, playing 24 hour playstation, excessive materialism, too much spending....Parents should be like a mirror where kids can observe good things of life while they help to reject degeneracies.

Everybody can have children but not everybody is qualified to raise them.
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Kingman
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Post Number: 284
Registered: 07-2004
Posted on Friday, October 19, 2007 - 01:20 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The family isn't necessarily a perfectly defined structure. What is progressive for a family in one part of the world may not advance or offer the same advantages in a differing region. The examples you give allow for certain conditions to exist where either one is a normal situation for adhering to the laws of Creation. However a degeneration could create itself in an extended family if responsibilities become unfairly spread.

Each require the members to grow in many diverse and meaningful ways and not to just relieve pressures of life or free a person from family involvement.
a friend in america
Shawn
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Scott
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Post Number: 1334
Registered: 12-1999
Posted on Friday, October 19, 2007 - 07:21 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thank you both for your comments. I agree with you Hector regarding unlimited free will. From my observations, this eventually leads to a weakening of people, because they have it too easy. In earlier times, when people were more connected with nature, you had to physically work to survive, which tends to strengthen a person. But, nowadays through modern society, many things are easy to come by such as food, shelter etc...even though we have to work for these things, too me it is not the same.

Thanks again
Scott
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Kingman
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Post Number: 286
Registered: 07-2004
Posted on Friday, October 19, 2007 - 08:09 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It's strange that when humans began to evolve we learned to grow our foods. Now as we are more technically advanced others grow it for us. In the farther future, as we begin to gain in spirituality and we balance our world, we probably will go back to growing our own food in light of how we are told the Plejaren live. Back to the basics like.

On another note:


The exploitation of anything, be it people, animals, land etc., is a tragic reality we are all a little guilty of being, just by living. And when family leaders don't comprehend that their daily actions, while living as a part of what society deems as acceptable, are viewed by children without teaching them to always try and find ways to better our methods and environmental impact from living, helps create an unspoken affirmation that the way we are currently living is just fine.

Communications between our own family members in the growing city populations isn't always for improving the human condition. Real leaders are missing as the missing link at the individual level. It's the small local leaders with true values we desperately could use. In this light an involved extended family could be seen as an advantage to growth spiritually and as a whole towards living in Creational laws.
a friend in america
Shawn
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Edward
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Post Number: 923
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Posted on Saturday, October 20, 2007 - 01:56 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Scott, Hector and Kingman.....

Yes, Hector put it very excellently.

The Plejarans do mention - Assist - which is also in their way of life and in
the FIGU Manifesto. And we, should assist our offspring as much and as long as
possible(this is still a - Parental Responsibility -, which the Plejarans also
stated very clearly). Some children are more independent (earlier) than
others, and thus leave the home at an early stage. The same I have noticed
within our family. So, it does differ...tremendously.

But, I have known people whereby, the parents more or less...Obligate their
children at the age of 18-20 to leave the house, and to explore the world. And
this is not always a wise option. Many youths do have problems with this and
can indeed loose touch of reality, and do find their peace in drinking,
drugs...and go so on just, as Hector mentioned. So, I guess, they do miss the
Family Values portion, if you will...to some extent. "One can just not leave
them to their own fate", as they say. Thus, 'Guidance' is recommended...I
would say.

So, it is indeed up to the parents, with their observations....to determine,
whether the child is Ripe or not. So, if a child feels ripe enough to leave
home, One should let this become reality. Responsible parents will sense this.

But sometimes financial aspects can play a role, here. Thus, this we must take
into account, also(or any other factor(s) [study outside One's own city or
work...etc.] which inhibits the mentioned and is inevitable).

Hector, very true. As they say: "Having children is very easy...but being a
Parent...is something else!"

Edward.
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Rarena
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Post Number: 298
Registered: 10-2005
Posted on Monday, November 26, 2007 - 03:27 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Edward,

How did the Bawwi clean the SSSC?

Also, it is interesting the cleaning of crystals and the human body to eliminate negative emotions or fluidal energies was something I had not connected.

Thanks
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Edward
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Post Number: 961
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Posted on Friday, November 30, 2007 - 07:05 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Rarena....


I did read it once many years back, and it was a properly constructed Pyramid.

There was a misunderstanding concerning this a while back with Franco, and
Thomas. It was discussed.

We just got our sources contexts, somewhat...mixed up. Because Semjase was
talking about a 'device'(as Franco mentioned), and not the mentioned Pyramid,
as it once was mentioned. So, I thought, there may have been an additional
manner to cleans the SSSC, outside the usage of the Pyramid.


Edward.

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