| Author | Message | ||
    Anthea |
Hello all, Here is an interesting news article from CNN about the latest technologies for the search of life in outer space ... "(CNN) -- Advanced space telescopes designed to look for terrestrial-like planets could distinguish weather patterns, landforms, rotation speeds and possibly life signs on distant worlds, according to astronomers." http://www.cnn.com/2001/TECH/space/08/29/planet.finder/index.html Kind Regards, Anthea | ||
Jean Pierre Lagasse |
Hi all, Of all the forums or sites... to have this topic! Interesting! (sounds like a story somewheres over this one!) My own "point of view" on this is that: If earth people really wanted to contact ET's etc... all they have to do is read through the Meier contact notes. The "mental lock"... or "proof but no proof" or whatever you might want to call it... prevents the scientific community from "acknowledging" the Meier material, at least on a professional level. This would include most earth people, personally as well. Ideas, concepts or whatever are in fact the most valuable. Proof aside. I suspect that a good many ideas passed along to Billy from the Plejarans have made their way to our "governments" & "associated agencies". (no credits given, eh?) Although no "official recognition" is given Billy (this would be "political suicide"), the concepts themselves are examinded in depth etc. I think that the scientific community must do what they do... this is due to the "scientific" or "duplicable proof" scenario from which they must work. Perhaps we can gain a lesson from Galileo... & what was accomplished in his lifetime? Our own earth scientists must evolve their own concepts... there's probably a natural law on this... or something? Regards, JP | ||
Larry Driscoll |
Jean Pierre, As per Billy's "Aus den Tiefen des Weltenraums... Kontakte mit den Plajadiern/Plejaren", there exist remnant structures, stations, etc of extraterrestrials on Mars. I have sent my translations of pertinent sections Billy's book to NASA for their review. These same sections I sent to Christian at FIGU who forwarded them on to Andrew whose Internet Group pursues the entire translation to English of Billy's book. | ||
gurujay |
Hi Jean, That is totally correct, Scientist are still a bit caught up in one idea of our existence and they cannot move on to something that has been given to us for FREE from the Plejarans. I think they need to have more common sense in their thinking if you ask me, that may help balance their spiritual growth to understand and accept and even make arrangements for Govt to have proper contact with the Plejarans. I see no point in not taking the chance if it is available for us all. Be well  | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 454 Registered: 07-2000 |
Hello, I’m not sure how many people have been following the European Space Agency’s landing of the Beagle 2 on the surface of Mars recently. While initially it could not be located, it has since been discovered with almost all systems intact. (NASA’s “Mars Spirit” has also landed without any problems). Apparently the location, which Beagle 2 set down, is identical to the location of NASA’s upcoming Martian “Opportunity” Lander scheduled to touchdown on Jan. 25. As I understand it, the European Space Agency, which was operating on a very tight budget, requested the help of NASA in developing the software needed for programming the Beagle 2. NASA generously provided many of the software programs needed, but the European Space Agency failed to notice, “Please insert your own coordinates”! Needless to say one can only wonder can NASA’s “Opportunity” Lander be reprogrammed this late in the game, to avoid pulverizing the Beagle 2?? In addition the European Space Agency has a second Martian Rover (Mars Express) scheduled for landing very soon. Salome Scott | ||
Edward Member Post Number: 358 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi Scott... As what I can make out of the Beagle-2; The Beagle-2..after entering the atmosphere...in a hardware-casing, than opens-up when descending slowly with parachutes. It has an Artificial Shell in the form of Balloons(Gas Bags).. Casing it. Thus, even if it did have the Same Coordinations to "Touchdown" as NASA"s Opportunity...it would "Bounce" for some hundred of meters Away from the Coordinated landing sight! So, there would indeed, be No Beagle-2 at the landing-point....whatsoever. Thus, the Opportunity...may go ahead and land at that the Same coordinations. This may also be what NASA and the European Space Agency may have agreed with and, thus, I would think that my mentioned description would be their Scenario and agreement? So, if all went OK with the Ballon-casing during the Touch-down...we have nothing to worry about! So...when the Opportunity makes it's Touchdown... on that exact point..it will do no harm to the Beagle-2 and itself. The Opportunity may even Scan around to find and see what went wrong with the Beagle-2. Edward. | ||
Moonshine Member Post Number: 53 Registered: 01-2005 |
"Hi Jean, That is totally correct, Scientist are still a bit caught up in one idea of our existence and they cannot move on to something that has been given to us for FREE from the Plejarans. I think they need to have more common sense in their thinking if you ask me, that may help balance their spiritual growth to understand and accept and even make arrangements for Govt to have proper contact with the Plejarans. I see no point in not taking the chance if it is available for us all. Be well " The plejarens already made contact with the U.S. Government and "it failed miserably" according to billy. I'm not sure if he was talking about the brain scans they did on various government leaders or if it was an actual contact. | ||
David_chance Member Post Number: 69 Registered: 03-2003 |
Hi Moonshine, The Plejarens attempted to set up a formal meeting with the government of the U.S. in 1979. More about this is contained in Contacts 117 & 119. I have made a few Freedom Of Information Act (FOIA) requests to various U.S. government agencies in an attempt to locate documents related to this, but so far have had no luck...I have gotten reply letters back saying "nothing found". I may not be addressing the correct government department. | ||
Moonshine Member Post Number: 54 Registered: 01-2005 |
David, Good luck on that, are you sure they would release this type of information if its documented? Also David, I'd like to get the contact reports in english and I haven't seen them on the site. I guess you have to purchase them, have a link? Thanks | ||
Moonshine Member Post Number: 55 Registered: 01-2005 |
Dave, Found the contact notes on the site. If you get those documents let me know, I'd like to see them also. Thanks | ||
David_chance Member Post Number: 72 Registered: 03-2003 |
Hi Moonshine, I don't know if I will try any more FOIA requests for documents related to that attempt in 1979. I suspect if there are any that they would not be made available to the public. I'm glad you found what you were looking for as far as English translations of the Contact Notes at the FIGU website. There is a bibliography (with links) of English language materials here: http://www25.brinkster.com/chancede/Meier.html | ||
Zefram New member Post Number: 1 Registered: 08-2005 |
Hi all, I´ve heard that exist more planets inhabited in our solar system and that their people have contacted with many goverments to warn them that we can not go on in the way we are living today. Is that true?. I also have heard that many agencies with the cooperation of private companies built a base on the moon, specifically a building with seven floor, have you heard something about?, as I see, it is related with cold war and the us project starwars, can you please verify this?. Thanks Salome, Zefram | ||
Memo00 Member Post Number: 218 Registered: 03-2004 |
hi Zefram (is that your real name? i like how it sounds) there were at least 2 other inhabited planets in our solar system in the past, the first was Mars and the second Malona (also known as Phaeton) which was destroyed in a war and what remains of it is today the Asteroid belt supposedly now there is no human life in any other planet (or moon) from our solar system appart from Earth, there are are only very small bases created by ETs (and in which there are only very very few persons) and a lot of bacteria also it has been said that in the close future we will discover the ruins of some of our ancestors in Mars . . . take care | ||
Zefram New member Post Number: 4 Registered: 08-2005 |
Hi Memo00, my name is a pseudonimous. Well you say that there is no inhabited planets in our solar system, so what about the contacts of Sixto Paz and Adamski? thay say there are life in Venus and in Ganymede, I also heard that in Mars, Neptune and in Jupiter exist human life, also inside our planet, what can you say about it? Salome, Zefram | ||
Markc Member Post Number: 309 Registered: 06-2000 |
According to Meier , what Mem00 has written stands true . As for Adamski , he hoaxed everything and admitted it before dying . Try to keep in mind that in such a relatively 'unprovable' field as extraplanetary life , Billy Meier keeps pure to the facts , of realities which are well known to him as well as the Plejaren .They have the means of researching everything effectively . Mark Campbell | ||
Memo00 Member Post Number: 219 Registered: 03-2004 |
hi Zefram Sixto Paz is also a liar, he has never offered a single solid proof of anything while most "contactees" are simply charlatans or sick persons, there existed in the past persons who where simply deceived and so this fairy tales began to spread worldwide, that is: the government, certain group of nazis who had "flying saucers", and also certain negative ET group (who no longer is in and will never return to our planet) appeared in front of people and told them: "we come from Venus, or we come from Mars etc" and in the case of the last, also filled their heads with all kinds of religious nonsense and told them that they were "angels" and other idiocies later, persons who never saw anything but that read or heard about this stories(like Adamski)decided to make some money and made their own stories about ETs from Mars, Venus, Jupiter or whatever. . . there also existed persons who had real contact with ETs but when they published the info about their contacts, they changed things like the origin of the visitors or info that was against their beliefs because they thought that otherwise nobody would believe them etc take care | ||
Zefram Member Post Number: 6 Registered: 08-2005 |
Ok MarKc, thanks for the information I didn´t know what you said. Salome, Zefram | ||
Markc Member Post Number: 310 Registered: 06-2000 |
Hi Zefram ; I guess my post was unclear , so I will try to redefine : While some (so called) UFO contactees speak of some glittering fantasies and make them coincide with religions , Meier explains everything fully and completely . He makes the idea of humans from other stars coming here sound like they are just neighbors / relatives who have come to help with real , credible , logical information to help us to develop our powers of thinking and making conclusions . Mark Campbell | ||
Kiril Member Post Number: 78 Registered: 12-2005 |
Topic: Hitlers wonder weapon Subject : Confirmation of existence --------------------------------------------------------------------------- On reading Memo00's explanation I was reminded of a recent, very interesting encounter, in concern to the construction of the Nazi flying discs, with an old engineer friend : We were discussing the developments of German technology during the two 'great wars' - rocket engine - chemical process for producing, I think NH4 or/and NH3 -- when he began to recount an experience from his younger days in Austria after the second world war. He explained that his uncle worked as a Military electrical engineer for the Nazi Army - that during the years between 1940 and 1943 he(his uncle) witnessed, first hand, the construction of flying discs that used a totally novel means of propulsion. What makes this interesting is that my friend was not aware of the Billy Meier case nor has he ever had the time or desire to research UFO's - The fact that this is an honest hard working and reliable man -- and of course that it correlates with the Meier info. --Another piece of the puzzle for anyone interested. For me, after Meier, 'Baba Vanga' is the most interesting and credible prophet/contact case. Interesting quote from Vanga :"The Twins will be destroyed by the steel birds; the wolf in the bush will scream and innocent people's blood will be shed." (Baba(Bulgarian for Grand Mother) Vanga died in 1996) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Kiril - #BEAM on Undernet: A place for Creational Ideas - | ||
Hector Member Post Number: 11 Registered: 04-2006 |
Hi all I suppose the U.S Military (perhaps the Government too)was aware of the presence of E.T`s long before Roswell.They got the corpses,they got the debris,they got lots of information.Well,20 years later they shamely spent billions of US dollars in a proyect called SETI(Search for extraterrestrial intelligence) which was abandoned later(No more funds).They tried to "hear" and "decode" radiowave emissions from outer space.The procedure itself is ilogical at best if not stupid.Radiowaves take a hell of a time to travel through space,1000s of years for a response.What i mean is i think they created SETI to confuse the public,our people thought the government did its best to contact ET`s when that proyect real task was to resume:"Hey we are calling them(via radio,like Orson Welles,good method),but they don`t respond,so either they`re evil or they don`t exist".Meanwhile UFO`s of all kinds crashed and were seen in Arizona as the ultimate alien sport.That i call MANIPULATION.Seti was "deaf" and we were "blind" :D.Thanks to our friends the plejaren and billy we had an opportunity not to be deceived.... Saalome | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 204 Registered: 07-2005 |
dear hector I agree hector I think that searching for life in outer space is a pointless exercise, I am talking here about actually trying to find ET civilizations instead of possible hospitable planets we could migrate to in the future. Our planet earth is already replete with so much evidence of existence of ET that why look out there, when they have done the hard work for us by bringing themselves here? The irresponsible government officials are still cloaking this topic of ET with so much secrecy and misinformation to lie and deceive the mainstream not because I believe we can't take the information but because they can't justify all the lies perpetuated by them from the past. How can they answer for themselves and with what excuses? Everything will crumble and fall down so hard on their feet that everything else that they had done will also be judged in a different shade of light with ruthless probing by the masses but it seems like the dominos are already falling one by one. | ||
Mqhassan Member Post Number: 8 Registered: 06-2006 |
Hello Hektor, I would just like to point out a few things about SETI. They had a programme to send and receive signals to the nearby stars that were within the vicinity of the sun. Note that within the 15 Light Years distance one can note the following candidates of stellar systems that according to several UFO reports had civilizations 1- Alpha Centuari 4.3 L.Y. 2- Bernard Star 5.8 L.Y 3- Sirius A & B 8.6 L.Y. 4- Epsilin Eridiani 0ver 10 L.Y 5- Wolf A & B ( Ummites ) 14.8 L.Y 6- Zeta Reticulum 37 L.Y The SETI Program actually went into phases and was a relatively low cost project to develop high sensitivity Radio Telescope Receivers, and one of the main advocates for this program was Prof Frank Drake with his known Drake equation showing us that in the worse case there are about 10 thousand technical civilizations in the galaxy. I think that the message sent by the Arecibo Radio telescope in 1974 did pay off with the 2002 crop circle in Chilbolton UK ! I suspect the Sirians to have answered the message by drawing their typical face on the crop circles as well Any Further Ideas on the Chilbolton crop circles ? Salome Mohammed | ||
Peter_brodowski Member Post Number: 256 Registered: 01-2004 |
hey there mohammed, can you please tell me what sources of info talks about life from epsilon eridani? i am quite curious, thanks. |
