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Gaiaguysnet
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Post Number: 323
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 - 05:04 pm: | 
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Dear Listies,
Since Billy teaches that repetition is an important part of learning, I'll make the time to quote myself here, since repetition is such an important part of learning.
From my 312th posting to Spaceman http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/14/6648.html "I do not wish to burn people with what I know to be true anymore than I already do. This is a hard and valuable lesson. Sorry."
This is a hard and valuable lesson.
This is a hard and valuable lesson.
Then I even told everybody where to look if they REALLY want to know some more harsh iconoclastic truths from Billy, which have been officially translated into English and have been available for anyone who REALLY cares, for many years. From my (above on this page) posting #321: "Please read, 'Those Who Lie About Contacts' if you want some more heat." http://shop.figu.org/product_info.php?cPath=63_51_53&products_id=166
I have better things to do with my time than illegally scan publicly available FIGU material and email it to individuals. (What's wrong with you people? Have you been spoon-fed toxic pap on demand for so long that you have lost the ability to chew you own food? SEEK and you will FIND. KNOCK and the door will OPEN. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.)
Please re-read my 292nd posting, 6th from the bottom: http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/863/6450.html where I quote Billy from 1989 www.gaiaguys.net/meierv5p468.htm LEARN THIS TRUTH. LEARN THIS TRUTH. LEARN THIS TRUTH.
And do we have an English language problem here? PLEASE do try to make the CRITICAL distinction between the common English words "people" and "peoples".
From my 309th posting http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/14/6648.html?1160628796 "Of COURSE this [auflösung/dissolving] does NOT mean that individual humans of the Jewish faith must be dissolved in tubs of acid! [Isn't this remark an insult to everybody's INTELLIGENCE???] It simply means the peoples (Volk) as a collective whole must - if Earth is ever to know enduring peace* - again suffer the fate they endured ... prior to the modern state of Israel coming into being as a homeland for the Jews after the Holocaust ... In a word; Diaspora, [repeat: DIASPORA DIASPORA DIASPORA] which the traditional Jewish rabbis have always so fervently desired in order to prevent the modern reification of the ancient prophecies from Jmmanuel (“ankle-deep blood”) that they are only too aware of from their own ancient scriptures, having survived the redaction of the scribes and the Pharisees of the time. * the other half of the world peace equation is: ALL the USAmerican soldiers must immediately GO HOME to their families and STOP KILLING PEOPLE all over the planet!"
UNDISPUTED historical accounts PROVE that the visciously anti-Jewish Zionists and NAZIs collaborated closely to bring about the Holocaust. Do your own research. It's not that hard.
Speaking of NAZIs, there is a brand new article by Billy @ www.figu.org/de/figu/bulletin/s30/leserfrage.htm about USAmerica's terrifying Central Intelligence Agency, where he states: "Die CIA ist die eigentliche geheime US-amerikanische Weltregierung ..." (The CIA is the virtual secret USAmerican world government ...")
And much much more.
I hope to make time to do a little more of an excerpt from this important document if I can untangle myself from here, after initially merely trying to correct a Stevens' translation, and requesting that I not be asked further questions.
Finally, “What are we going to DO about it?” Please see: www.gaiaguys.net/meierazlp9,1.htm
STRIVE TO STRIVE FOR THE TRUTH! THAT is the Golden Key.
STRIVE TO STRIVE FOR THE TRUTH! THAT is the Golden Key.
STRIVE TO STRIVE FOR THE TRUTH! THAT is the Golden Key.
Salome, salome & salome. :-)
Dyson |
Vestri
Member
Post Number: 63
Registered: 02-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 - 06:27 pm: |
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Spaceman
"I don't expect you to speak of the wrongs of other nations, but I wish to say that all countries have done wrong so why are the Plejarens specifically mentioning the Jews?"
Hi Spaceman,
that particular contact note which mainly spoke about the Israeli people was the second half of Semjase's 1977 explanation about the origins of the Aryan people on Earth. This explanation was provided by Semjase on Billy's request during the 70th contact on January 6th, 1977.
http://www.gaiaguys.net/meierv2p406-410,v4p55-58,98-101.htm
That is the reason why the Plejarens specifically only spoke about the Jews there.
p.s spaceman, I rushed my last post in and I didn't mean to make what I said to you there sound the way it did. And I am not trying to suggest there that I am knowledgeable about Israel and the protocols of zion either. |
Alan
Member
Post Number: 71
Registered: 06-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 - 07:10 pm: |
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144. Earth will first finally be calm, then, when this power-hungry and bloodthirsty Hebraon alliance, and which they themselves named as a people, which has split into various sects addicted to world control, and so forth, is fully dissolved.
Semjase must be referring to the zionists there as one of the group of israeli people that split off into a sect.
What about the neo-nazi's and freemasons? Does anyone know where they fit in with all this, or if they have any ties with the zionists? |
Spaceman
Member
Post Number: 100
Registered: 06-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, October 19, 2006 - 01:32 am: |
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Okay Vestri, What was Billy's request? What do they say of our own race?
To Dyson, What you say is true - Seek and one finds. But, how can I build an opinion if I don't even know what the Plejarens words about these are? How can I make any opinion on them? That is why I ask that you post the remarks you spoke of. I mean it is best if all the people in the forum know what the Plejarens are saying. It is unfortunate that the contacts are in German and many don't know how to read it. So, don't hide the remarks from anyone, how will we know what the Plejarens are saying then? |
Tjames
Member
Post Number: 224
Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, October 19, 2006 - 11:54 pm: |
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Spaceman,
We must strive to learn German. It is better to go through growing pains from learning a new language than attempt to pick up the pieces of rubble and completely rebuild a society all over again. Who knows what questions would be aswered if we understood all of Billy's writings. But, one thing I do know is, there's only one way to find out.
Salome
Tim
Salome gam nan been urrda gan njjber hasala hesporona!
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Scott
Moderator
Post Number: 924
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Saturday, October 21, 2006 - 10:20 pm: |
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Hi Christian,
This in reference to your post located in the October 13th archive.
You mentioned there have been 650,000 Iraq's killed since the "War" began. Does this include civilian casualties as well, or is this in regards to military personnel etc...? According to current estimates the civilian losses stand somewhere between 44,000-49,000 at present, http://www.iraqbodycount.org/...obviously this is terrible no matter how you look at it.
Could you elaborate on the (10) Israeli tribes which migrated to the Afghanistan and Western Pakistan region more than 2000 years ago? I'm not sure I understand the implications of this statement.
Thanks very much
Salome
Scott |
David_chance
Member
Post Number: 102
Registered: 03-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, October 21, 2006 - 10:56 pm: |
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The Lancet published the study about estimated war-related deaths in Iraq since the USA invasion in March 2003 up until July 2006. The Lancet is the leading medical journal of the UK. The article/study can be seen in Adobe Acrobat format at: www.thelancet.com/webfiles/images/journals/lancet/s0140673606694919.pdf |
Spaceman
Member
Post Number: 102
Registered: 06-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, October 21, 2006 - 11:02 pm: |
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Hello Dyson, Do you plan on posting those strident remarks you spoke of. Why is some information of the Plejaren's been hidden this way? |
Gaiaguysnet
Member
Post Number: 331
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, October 22, 2006 - 05:40 pm: |
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Dear Spaceman,
To answer your first question again, still, "no".
Sorry.
It has been hidden in this way becasue you have to be strong to bear it, and in order to find it you have to climb up enough to strengthen you.
I'll copy in my (above) posting from 5 days ago. I hope you read it.
(snip)
"From my 312th posting to Spaceman http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/14/6648.html ‘I do not wish to burn people with what I know to be true anymore than I already do. This is a hard and valuable lesson. Sorry.’
This is a hard and valuable lesson.
This is a hard and valuable lesson.
Then I even told everybody where to look if they REALLY want to know some more harsh iconoclastic truths from Billy, which have been officially translated into English and have been available for anyone who REALLY cares, for many years. From my (above on this page) posting #321: ‘Please read, '’Those Who Lie About Contacts'” if you want some more heat.’ http://shop.figu.org/product_info.php?cPath=63_51_53&products_id=166
I have better things to do with my time than illegally scan publicly available FIGU material and email it to individuals. (What's wrong with you people? Have you been spoon-fed toxic pap on demand for so long that you have lost the ability to chew you own food? SEEK and you will FIND. KNOCK and the door will OPEN. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.)
Please re-read my 292nd posting, 6th from the bottom: http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/863/6450.html where I quote Billy from 1989 www.gaiaguys.net/meierv5p468.htm LEARN THIS TRUTH. LEARN THIS TRUTH. LEARN THIS TRUTH."
(snip)
HARDLY hidden if anyone can buy it for CHF5. And the TJ pulls no punches about the Israelis either.
Spaceman, to answer your second question again: the harsh truth can badly hurt people who are not equipped to handle it. People go crazy. Several people have hurt or even killed themselves after being exposed to the truth about the Plejaren too suddenly, and this was mentioned recently in English by core group member & list moderator Christian Frehner on the most recent 4 hr. DVD which is a MUST HAVE item, (see www.theyfly.com) and describes - among MANY other things - how Billy was responsible for the revelation (by David Yallop's "In God's Name") that the Freemasons killed Pope John-Paul the First. They also killed Pope Paul the 6th (for the same reason), as personally witnessed by Billy and Ptaah.
I'm happy to help point the way, but nobody can do it FOR you because it simply doesn't work that way.
And there is no getting around that harsh truth.
Salome,
Dyson |
Eric_drouin
Member
Post Number: 145
Registered: 05-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, October 22, 2006 - 06:46 pm: |
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Hi Scott:
I like the way information is provided by FIGU, no information spoon-fed, they let you think and ponder and investigate, for those that have a brain.
Regarding the 10 tribes emigrated in Afghanistan and Western Pakistan, I pondered over last few days about it, people currently living in this area are the "Pashtun", from which the TALIBANS stemmed... These warmongering tribes are fiercely resisting the western armies (UK, Canada, US) currently in Afghanistan, and had relations with the terrorist organizations that you all know that are the case of the current war activities of the US in the world. They were backed by the CIA in the 1980...
Salome
Eric |
Spaceman
Member
Post Number: 103
Registered: 06-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, October 22, 2006 - 11:19 pm: |
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Hello Dyson, I will read the links you gave to me in your posts, thanks for that. And I do agree on the fact that some people do turn violent on knowing the truth. But, Why do we Whites have a history of going on ridding peoples lands? Is there a truth to that, you are willing to accept? I mean this question in a very serious way.
To Eric, I would say the Pashtun people are rebellious not warmongering. The Biggest Warmonger award goes to .... U.S.A. who are rushing to their destruction, by waging wars. |
Scott
Moderator
Post Number: 927
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Monday, October 23, 2006 - 07:49 am: |
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Hello Spaceman,
I know you know this, but let's not forget the entire USA is not Warmongering, but certain groups existing within the US Government which are perpetuating the suffering on this planet. There are a number of organizations and groups of people within the US which are against certain US Governmental policies and are doing what they can to change things for the better.
Regards
Scott |
Gaiaguysnet
Member
Post Number: 335
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Monday, October 23, 2006 - 01:16 pm: |
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Dear Spaceman,
(I'm not sure what you mean by, "... going on ridding (??) peoples lands.")
But "The Whites" seem to have been favored by the Bafath, in my opinion, and Billy says that it is these ("1st World") types who will have the most difficulty adjusting to the Golden Age. That has also been my observation. Is seem to have a lot to do with all forms of materialism, not to mention the terrible synergy of ignorance and arrogance.
Salome,
Dyson |
Scott
Moderator
Post Number: 929
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Monday, October 23, 2006 - 10:35 pm: |
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Hello,
I have to amend my previous statements regarding the use of the word Government.
We do not live on a planet in which the Governments are representing the masses by a long shot. Most politicians are unapproachable, most if not all governmental policies are not determined by a just and fair vote, but generally are influenced by those that benefit. The governments have completely disassociated themselves from society, and have no real interest in serving others, but only to rule, acquire power and wealth. Governments have become huge business ventures, with much of the wealth being circulated amongst government leaders and business leaders with the no sense of responsibility or guilt in the amount of money they extract from the people within the country they are "governing". Deals are made, votes are cast, money changes hands constantly and who benefits...I know this is very common knowledge, but most of the countries in the world have been hijacked by corrupt people, organizations and those seeking to make as much as they can off the backs of others...How could this have happened...I suspect many of the leaders in power know eventually people will awake from their stupidity, but to keep that from happening, I am sure they will resort to any means possible to perpetuate the lie for as long as they can get away with it...they may hide out in their secret hiding places and scurry about hoping no one will find them, but things change as they always do, and someday they will have to face the light of day or rot away like some dead fig leaf....
just venting
Scott |
Spaceman
Member
Post Number: 105
Registered: 06-2006
| | Posted on Monday, October 23, 2006 - 11:19 pm: |
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Hello Forum, I see that this Bafath, has done a great deal in manuiplating people in our history. What have the Plejarens done about him, he had a h.q. in one jupiter's moons, I have read. I think Bafath is daed now, are there any potential Bafaths?
Also, something I wanted to know about the NOI or Nation of Islam: Did/are anyone telepathically control Malcolm X or Louis, the leaders of the Organization? |
Matt
Member
Post Number: 70
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 24, 2006 - 02:34 am: |
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Scott "I suspect many of the leaders in power know eventually people will awake from their stupidity, but to keep that from happening, I am sure they will resort to any means possible to perpetuate the lie for as long as they can get away with it...they may hide out in their secret hiding places and scurry about hoping no one will find them, but things change as they always do, and someday they will have to face the light of day or rot away like some dead fig leaf.... "
Scott, do you think I will see that change from populous happen in my lifetime?
500 years? |
Gaiaguysnet
Member
Post Number: 338
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 24, 2006 - 12:46 pm: |
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Dear All,
Well put, Scott, but don't forget that in SB30 Billy describes the SECRET government. Read the Disclosure Project stuff at www.gaiaguys.net/ufology.htm if you haven't already done so. The planet's REAL government is organised corporate criminals.
Spaceman, you have a lot of catching up to do. Try www.gaiaguys.net/AYTF-Giza.htm
Malcolm X & Co. would have been victims of the Bafath, I've little doubt. About 625 world political and religious leaders at any one time.
Salome,
Dyson |
Ardie
Member
Post Number: 34
Registered: 02-2000
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 24, 2006 - 03:15 pm: |
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Hi Scott,
I nominate you to be the next President of the USA! =20
Ardie
Thanks for the vote, but I'll pass until the U.S. (or any other country) can come up with a verifiable and honest voting system! |
Scott
Moderator
Post Number: 931
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 24, 2006 - 04:28 pm: |
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We all have to get back to this topic area, including myself  |
Spaceman
Member
Post Number: 109
Registered: 06-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 25, 2006 - 01:12 am: |
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Thanks Dyson for all your translated information on the contacts of Billy. I read about the Giza intelligence and about Arus 1 and his sons, but the page doesn't specifically mention about NOI.
But since, the Giza intelligence were removed from Earth (Thanks to your space friends!) in May 1978, is it possible that the founder Wallace Fard Muhammad could have been telepathically controlled to propogate false beliefs by them? |
Edward
Member
Post Number: 674
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 25, 2006 - 01:24 am: |
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Hi Scott....
If I may pitch in a few coins...on your question to Christian?
As what I have gather from the News and Papers here, estimates: the 650,000
deaths - Civilians & Military - are a 'Rough' estimate. Taken from some
regions' (18,000!? or more) families, and so forth. So, insiders estimate,
of course: Much Much Higher!!
Edward. |
Mqhassan
New member
Post Number: 1
Registered: 06-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 25, 2006 - 01:39 am: |
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Hello Everybody,
As an Iraqi living in Baghdad during these terrible days, I began looking for the reasons of all this and discovered that the Plejaren view is very close to what I feel and know from what is happening around me.
Here I should note that work done by the Exopolitics group ( Dr M. Salla ) and their exposure of secret agreements done with E T 's from the Zeta Reticuli system and the Orion systems by certain earth governments ( Ex Nazi and present USA ) show clearly what the Bafath were up to. The invasion of my counry Iraq is based on controlling the Sumerian heritage and their secrets regarding connections with Outer Space by their GOD's.
So the Americans are controlling the region hoping to control the world through their BAFATH Connections. Zionism and Money Conrtol is part of this scheme.
I do believe that time will have to come where the sources of Earth Religions be exposed and explained that doensn't make people fight each other.
The Plejarens will have to explain the Role of " Gabriel " in the three basic religions emanating in the Middle East (Judaism, Christianity, Islam ) and how things were constantly falsified by earth people seeking power through money.
Mohammed Q. Hassan
Baghdad |
Alan
Member
Post Number: 81
Registered: 06-2006
| | Posted on Friday, November 17, 2006 - 03:21 pm: |
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10'000 Anti-Zionist Orthodox Jews joined the Mass Protest!
On Thursday, November 9, 2006, over ten thousand anti-Zionist Orthodox Jews participated in a protest sponsored by the Central Rabbinical
Congress outside the "Israeli" consulate on 2nd avenue in New York City.
True Torah Jews has obtained photos from this event which have been published on our web site in the form of a slide show.
To view the slide show, visit this link:
http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/slideshow/2006Nov9nyc.cfm
The slideshow pictures of the event/banners is very good in depicting what the jewish people are protesting about and against zionism. |
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