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    Edward Member Post Number: 787 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi Badr....(will name you Badr now, seeing it is now mentioned above the Moderator specifications, OK....  ... ) I, myself would agree with what Hans has posted, within FIGU's definition. It is most Logical, to wear a stone at that position of the chest part. And thus, with the knowledge, that the stone's Energy can Flow much easier and freely...to their destine points, and further throughout the human body. With the Knowledge that the Solar Plexus as, being the 'Catalyzer', if you will. I do not think that anyone would wear a stone, 'So Low'....as between the Chest cavity and the Abdominal cavity. Not? This is truly....unheard of, so to speak. In most cases, as Memo viewed to us with the Martial Arts image: that is the main interpretation/definition of where the Solar Plexus is located. I do, remember this...from my early Martial Arts days in my teens and twenties. As far as I have gathered: there have been cases, when One can receive a/some sort of - Blow Inward/or a Collapse(inward) - sensation, at that location of the chest...at times, when One is confronted with a Shock(ing) incident/ scenario. And this Blow Inward(almost as if the wind is Blown/Knocked out of you at that point/area; and One obtains vertigo), is Not a Heart Infarct nor even a Hyperventilation attack/processing, but Caused by an 'imbalance (or disharmony)' within the Solar Plexus (chest) location, produced by the mentioned process(ing). Doctors and Medical aides do, misinterpret the/that Solar Plexus attack/ imbalance (or disharmony), if you will, at times as being a Heart Infarct or a Hyperventilation Attack, as mentioned above. But, as you may know: Man today, is still not into the True Knowledge of HOW the Solar Plexus/Psyche works...and processes itself. So, the Solar Plexus/Psyche, can be seen as The Heart...of distributing, the needed, to the rest of our Material Aspects within our human body, if you will. Just as what our Material Heart (Mechanism) is, for the Material Aspects within our Human Body: Blood Flow(ing), to all parts of the human body. Edward. | ||
Thomas Member Post Number: 270 Registered: 03-2004 |
This is for Norm, I think. If I remember correctly Norm, you are paralyzed and have asked Billy about curing your spinal cord injury and some other things related to that. I hope I got the right person. Either way, I have some possible good news for you. There is a psychologist (I think that is his title) in Solana Beach California and I believe his name is Gary Sinclair. The thing about Mr Sinclair is that he HAD multiple sclerosis and lung disease as well and he was in very very bad shape for many years. The wonderful thing about Gary was that he was searching for answers like you and he finally realized that he could cure himself. He didn't take a drug, nor did he go to a so-called healer. He just decided that he was going to heal himself by shear will power. Six months after his decision, he was no longer taking medication and was in excellent health as far as the MS and lung problems. This was several years ago and he is well even as of today according to the last info I looked up about him. I guess the point I am getting at is that the power of thought is nearly without limits and that it is at least very POSSIBLE that you cure yourself if you get to the point where you know that you can. Billy told you, if I remember, that you would have to devote your life to learning to do this. It is my understanding however that this amount of time is not absolute and that it is only our doubts that hold us back from using the full power of our thoughts. The thing is that we should never have blind faith in anything. We require KNOWLEDGE in order for our spirit and thoughts to be able to do the seemingly miraculous things that are not yet commonplace, such as healing paralysis. Billy's books are very very clear about this subject but it is necessary to seek out and to understand with certainty that the knowledge in his books is true. This story about Mr Sinclair is documented not only on the web but also in books by reputable authors if you would like to research this yourself. I do not want to give you false hope Norm. I want you to find the truth. It IS possible to cure yourself. It is knowledge that makes this possible though and unfortunately we are the only ones who can prove to ourselves that this knowledge is real and true. I would love for you to walk again. I really would. In fact, it is possible. If you would like to talk to me about this, my email address is thomas.fannie@yahoo.com I have nothing to sell and nothing to convince you of but I am on a search too and you and I have something in common, I think, so I would love to talk to you a bit if you are willing. I leave it to you to decide. Have a great day! Thomas | ||
Leann Member Post Number: 45 Registered: 08-2006 |
Hello all, I received this in my email this morning and it confirms what Ptaah said about milk. Just thought I would pass it on. Leann Please read this and pass along to as many people as you can think of. Mitzi Lyons and her husband Kyle live in Gainesville,TX . Their Daughter, Marissa, has been experiencing menstrual problems (bleeding everyday) for three years and within the last year she started producing milk (lactating). They have performed every test, every surgery, put her on birth control and in January, was scheduled to undergo a hysterectomy. BUT, Mitzi's dad started researching his granddaughter's condition on the internet found out about RBST in milk. RBST is a hormone injected into cows to produce more milk. Wal-Mart Great Value milk contains RBST and is the brand that the Lyons family has used for years. Three months ago, they pulled Marissa off of Great Value Milk and she quit bleeding and lactating. Her doctors in Houston are going to write a medical journal discovery about her case, because the FDA says that RBST is safe. Mitzi asked me to please share this with everyone I could think of to hopefully save someone the pain and suffering that Marissa has endured. I have pulled my family from Wal-Mart Great Value milk and bought Borden instead. Borden has a label on their milk that states that RBST is not used on their cows. Please pass this on...... | ||
Edward Member Post Number: 788 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi Leann.... Very perceptive of you. It is known to me also, that hormone injections are applied to cows(and others). This has been an issue here in the Netherlands also in the past. I can not say, if we do process it in our cows, though; and of course, it is not mentioned on the milk carton, and doubt perhaps, that the dairy company would give in, and tell you/us? Knowing, those are 'things' that are put in...without them having to explain it to the people/mass. Even though, as a law: ALL ingredients in a product, should be noted/printed on the product...itself. At least, here in Europe and even in England; that ALL ingredients in a product 'Has To be' noted on the product. If this is not the case: Steps can be taken! So, I do not know how many people are aware of this. The EU has determine this. It seems, that in some countries it is aloud, and some not. Just as supplement - Power/Strength Fodder - and others, which are additionally given to cows(and other eatable animals)...to meaty them up; which also has a by-effect on humans beings, as I have gather. So, there is indeed much more aspects that play a role, here. Indeed, your information is something to think about and pass on to others, whom are still ignorant to the matter/facts. Edward. | ||
Norm Member Post Number: 1142 Registered: 02-2000 |
Thomas, Here it is, Hi Billy, This is a follow up question to one of my previous questions. In chapter 21 of the TJ, Jmmanuel said, "And when you are knowledgeable and live in the truth of wisdom, your spirit and your consciousness will be filled with infinite power. Then everything you command or ask for in prayer, you will receive if you trust in it." How can I use these principles to heal my Spinal Cord Injury? ANSWER: Hi Norm, In principle it is possible to use these forces/energies/laws, but in order to become capable for this you would have to devote your entire life to this goal (besides possessing the knowledge of "how to do it"). My Website | ||
Phi_spiral Member Post Number: 122 Registered: 03-2007 |
Hi Brian, There is an explanation for your experience with handling the speaker magnets. You would be interested in knowing that it is common knowledge among biomagnetic researchers that blood placed under a microscope with a magnetic field applied, will reveal the blood cells all lined up in the direction of the field. This easy polarization of the blood is thought to be greatly facilitated by the high percentage of iron contained in the blood. Thus within the human system, the blood, because of its chemical composition, assists in the creation of the body's intrinsic biomagnetic field. And further, due to its iron content, the blood is highly amenable to magnetic fields from external sources. In the book, "Your Electro-Vibratory Body," there are dramatic pictures of blood cells before and after being exposed to magnetic fields. Regards Bob | ||
Cpl Member Post Number: 288 Registered: 08-2004 |
Hi Norm, Have you checked out acclaimed healer John of God in Brazil? A number of scientists and traditional medical doctors have visited him and found his healings to be genuine, if inexplicable. Of course, not all those visiting leave cured, but countless numbers arriving lame have left walking leaving their crutches or wheelchairs behind as souvenirs. Link: http://www.johnofgod-healing.com/ Best, cpl | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 1284 Registered: 12-1999 |
Hi Bob, I checked with Christian regarding the term Magnetopathy. He stated it had to do with laying on with the hands where an exchange of energy takes place. There was no mention of magnets. Regards Scott | ||
Phi_spiral Member Post Number: 123 Registered: 03-2007 |
OK, Scott. One of my sources states: ”Magnetic Healing: Also known as magnetopathy” And at one point in time magnetic healing could employ either magnets or, “the ability of a gifted one to make contact with cosmic force and consequently transmit as well as mediate of his own power therein for the healing of some disease.” Which probably included the use of hands. So I’m sure Christian is correct in that the term probably had a more common usage in Europe which leaned toward the latter interpretation. Interestingly enough, there is a German word, Magnetopath, which is defined in the Babylon German English dictionary as: Magnetopath (der) n. mesmerist, hypnotist; advocate of mesmerism I am curious now how the word, “magnetopathy” is used in Die Psyche. Could you share a little? Regards Bob | ||
Edward Member Post Number: 853 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi All.... Well, One can also experience a Magnetic (current) sensation through the hands. Perhaps some of you also did this...as kids? At least, when I was a kid of about 8-9 years old...the kids once picked-up one method whereby you have to make a fist and the other person would put his/her hand palm over your fist and rub over your fist back and forth for about one minute. And then, you have to open your fist real quickly and the other person would, with his/her pointing finger tops...slightly tap your five fingers...starting at the thumb...and all the way to the pink. And than, that person would quickly swing his/her hand palm some 10-13 cm above your open hand palm, and than quickly...closing the fingers to each other(extended) and quickly move away, upward. And if done correctly: One can experience in One's hand palm...the Magnetic (current) sensation. So, when still living in the USA, we kids and even some family members did this for the fun of it. Some of us, were still trying to find out how it worked. And as you grow older and study the human body...One does come across information stating that the human body indeed...does have a Magnetic-field surrounding it. And this, of course, explains the Magnetic (current) sensation....we felt as kids, then. Edward. | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 1285 Registered: 12-1999 |
Bob, This was mentioned in regards to Psychic Illness. It was stated that the correct use of Magnetopathy can aid a person in dissolving pain and tightness within the body which frees up the head and emotional center of the person. Again, I don't know whether magnets would have the same effect or not. Regards Scott | ||
Indi Member Post Number: 103 Registered: 06-2006 |
Hi Bob Just a little on my knowledge of Magnetic healing: I first became aware of this term 16 years ago, when my sister informed me that she was going to have magnetic healing sessions, in the hope that her advanced breast cancer would be healed. I went along with her to a session, and watched the therapist at work -- and from what I could see, all that was happening was she was working in the auric field, not on the body at all, only in the auric field -- passing her hands through it in various ways. The group my sister had contacted were trained by a gentleman named Colin Lambert -- and I think my sister may have even had a session with him, but am not positive. Colin Lambert became incredibly well known mainly in NZealand for his work in this area. You can find out about it on the net, there is alot of info mentioning his name. He died last year, and wrote 6 books, 2 of which I have read -- and found he was no stranger to esoteric teachings, Edgar Cacye, UFO's, hypnosis etc......... Anyway, magnetic healing looked just like what I called 'spiritual healing' of which I have experience with personally in that I have studied various forms of it. Unfortunately for my sister, it was not the solution she had hoped for, and after trying that and many many other things, she succumbed to the disease process and died shortly afterwards. This brings me to Die Psyche, and its mentioning of magnetopathy. From what I read there, all it mentions is that when someone needs healing, it can be helpful to have someone assist, by directing magnetic energy currents/power to them. However, it goes on to say that fundamentally it is the sick person himself who must carry out his own cure via the consciousness through the spirit -- i.e. he must create healthy neutral-positive thinking for himself in order to heal. I can attest to this from my own experience, of which I have around 20 years in the field -- that all the 'assistance' from someone else, no matter what kind, cannot lead to lasting healing unless there is some attention to the ill psyche and adjustment of those things that are exhibited when the psyche is imbalanced. Edgar Cacye once said something to the effect that it is a shame to heal the physical body, without healing the soul as well. In a sense, he was saying what Billy says, however, Billy seems to emphasize as do the Theosophists and Hermeticists, that of course the body is the bottom of the line in chain of events with regard to illness, in that it is the finer matter that first becomes imbalanced, which if left unchecked, will eventually lead to coarse material functional loss, and then if that is left unchecked, then structural effects will begin to manifest. These are my words, and interpretations I must say. I am still trying to align Billy's teachings on the aura/astral body, and its relationship with so called spiritual healing etc.... with things I have learned on my journey over the years, weeding out the bits that don't make sense anymore, after evaluating what Billy has offered in this area. When I come to more clarity with it, I will be pleased --- I am getting there. Anyway, enough on this now -- hope this helps :-) in peace Robjna | ||
Norm Member Post Number: 1147 Registered: 02-2000 |
Cpl, Its funny you mention John of God. My mothers friend is a kind of New Ager & she's headed there. I'm sure she will report whats happens there to me. My Website | ||
Brian Member Post Number: 6 Registered: 05-2007 |
Hi Bob Thanks for your info,thats very interesting,but although i am unaware of how the circulation of blood works, woulnt the magnitzed blood move out of the hands very shortly? If i recall correctly the sensation i had lasted for a hour or two. Has anyone here heard of electro-therpy,which i think entails using small amounts electricity? Salome | ||
Phi_spiral Member Post Number: 124 Registered: 03-2007 |
Hi, Robjna! I was hoping you would jump into this discussion because I always find your input insightful. My own experience regarding the phrase “magnetic healing” has involved the actual use of magnets, so I admit to a certain bias. It is what I have studied and most comfortable with. But clearly, in other parts of the world, the phrase carries a different meaning. The notion of someone else’s hands coming near your body for healing purposes should be weighed carefully. The energetic transfers from such physical closeness inherently has negative effects as the Plejarins have said more than once. The exception would be someone with a higher evolved spirit - a bit of a rarity today. Edgar Cayce recommended in many of his health readings the application of a small electric current which creates a magnetic field upon entering the body. It, too, was to stimulate the body’s own energetic flow. I believe there are three different types of these devices based on Cayce’s specifications which you can buy on the internet at www.caycecures.com and are listed as “Vibrational Appliances.” By the way, I read Arthur Young’s, “The Geometry Of Meaning”. Now unfortunately I think I need a companion book entitled, “The Meaning Of The Geometry Of Meaning.” And Wilson’s “German Quickly,” is proving to be a valuable asset to my library. Thanks for sharing your personal experience. Kind Regards, Bob P.S. - “All meaning is an angle.” ;-) | ||
Edward Member Post Number: 854 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi Bob and Robjna.... Concerning your: The notion of someone else’s hands coming near your body for healing purposes should be weighed carefully. The energetic transfers from such physical closeness inherently has negative effects as the Plejarans have said more than once. Which I fully agree with. That is why, I once read, that Nicola Tesla never shook hands! He was always afraid of Negative Magnetic Vibrations, which would disrupt his own field. Even though, it may not be in anyway related to a/any healing process...what so ever. It was almost an Obsession. And I do agree...with what the Plejarans mentioned concerning the Negative Effect, if done by someone not credible in this/the profession. Just like here, anyone can call him/herself...a Magnetizer or even a Healer... and does not even need a Credible and Legal Certificate. And thus, here is where many Charlatans make great (mis)usage of. That is why, if I did study the Homeopathy and Herbals and even the Magnetizing as additional class/profession(as I wanted in the past): it would have been done Legally and with end-result...: an Official Acknowledged Medicine Certificate, and that I may execute the practice. Thus, Indeed: being treated by someone 'Without' the Legal Certificates...and so forth(experience for at least, 5-6 years of recognized guided practice), is truly...a very risk taking step. In most cases, these are the true Charlatans ...and out for the money...and fame. Edward. | ||
Phi_spiral Member Post Number: 125 Registered: 03-2007 |
Hi Brian Getting back to your question, the magnetic orientation of other cells in your hand besides blood, such as muscles and tendons, were still affected. The residual time-frame will vary greatly from person to person depending on bio-chemistry: the amount of electrolytes, ions, lactic acid, etc. Regards Bob | ||
Edward Member Post Number: 855 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi Brain.... As far as I know, there are many sorts of - Electro-Therapy. There is even the so-called Brain Electro-Therapy, which I think you are not referring to? The one I know of and was treated with, for Back(average person has a 'S' spine, but mine was too straight - alined...was to have been the cause) and elbow(since the mid 80ties, the Guitar Elbow/Arm has been recognized: known also as Tennis and Violin arm/elbow) pains, was: Massage Electro-Therapy. And this technique does indeed utilize small amounts of Electro currents... which generates the Massage Effect. The frequency (adjustment), was/is dependent on the pain or aliment/complaint. So, I was: Hooked Up, so to speak... And before each treatment, I had a pre-treatment (for Back) with a Warmth Pillow. If you are referring to the treatment similar, I received: it did help me. And I did once purchase a Warmth and Massage Vibrating Pillow, in case I have Back pains again, and this does do wonders, so to speak. In the mid 70 -80ties, I also did much lifting labor...and somewhere along this period, it may have gone wrong. Edward. | ||
Rarena Member Post Number: 265 Registered: 10-2005 |
Dear Edward, Warmth feels good, but really... cold solves inflamation which solves quite a bit of pain. Those ice gel packs are my favorite, along with an excellent chiropractor... or osteopath. Remember CBAN: Cold,Burn,Ache, Numb... Numb is the goal... Lidocaine patches are nice but it's like removing the "idiot light" from your car, you really don't know if you're damaging this fine instrument/machine we run and inhabit... Salome, Randy ô¿ô PS> The heat feels really good temporarily but, is it really good for you in the long run? | ||
Indi Member Post Number: 104 Registered: 06-2006 |
Warmth feels good, but really... cold solves inflamation which solves quite a bit of pain... Remember CBAN: Cold,Burn,Ache, Numb... Numb is the goal..... PS> The heat feels really good temporarily but, is it really good for you in the long run? Randy, re the above quotes from your post -- I couldn't caution you more than to say be careful with what you say, giving advice about things as if you are a knowledgable practitioner --- then again, you may be a trained practitioner -- are you? -- I don't agree with your comments the way you have put them, at all, and I am a trained practitioner. Heat and cold applications do very different things, depending on the part that it is being applied to. Choosing one over the other, is to do with 'purpose', not only for what feels better to the patient, and is not the same as a blanket approach for all ailments. Also, as this is not a treatment forum, I will refrain from offering treatment advice, but rather would also like to point out, that there are many ways to view 'treatments', and depending on what one's understanding of conditions is, based on ones vantage point, will determine what one will utilise for healing or for pain reduction. Things are not always as they seem from the standard medical perspective -- there are many other perspectives that would approach the same situation in seemingly opposite ways. Eg., here is an example of something I have tried and tested many times successfully. Following is my own personal experience, and i am not proposing that anyone should do as I did (unless one can see the possibilities, and be sensible). I have burned myself by picking up a stainless steel handle that has come straight out of the oven -- naturally, I received a serious burn to the hand, that extended the length of the handle. The skin had turned a silvery colour in that place and there was alot of pain. So, the burn itself was a long thinnish one, with healthy skin on either side, about the size of the diagnoal of my palm. I decided there and then to test a homoeopathic style hypothesis that applying heat to a burn should effectively remove the heat from the burn, stopping any further movement of heat further/deeper into the tissue. I turned on the hot water and cold water tap together, to produce a heat that my hand could handle and placed my hand under the running water. I slowly increased the hot water tap, bit by bit, letting my skin adjust to the heat before increasing it. After about 10 mins, I had my hand, or the burn part mainly, held under very very hot water. I stopped to evaluate what was happening -- and to my surprise, there was almost no pain at all -- and instead of the white silvery burn mark, there was a feint pink line. I expected to feel the pain come back as it was obiously a 2nd degree burn, as it had every time I took it from under the water, however, it didn't. There was not pain at all shortly afterwards, and no mark. To this day, there is no scar. I have tried that process everytime I have had a burn, and used it with my kids as well, and anyone else who needed it, if they were prepared to think outside the box. There is an explanation as to why the application of heat to a burn could have this positive effect -- but it is so against the mainstream medical thought that minds are automatically closed -- pronouncing it as dangerous folly --- but I assure you, it is not. This is just an example of something that responds well to heat Randy -- and there will be other things that heat applications are better for than cold --- too numerous to go into here. Numbing something with a cold pack, is no different in the pain sense as taking lidocaine patches on ones skin. However, cold applied to tissue, has the effect of closing off vessels -- thus reducing blood flow and the fluid that moves into the interstitial tissue, causing painful swelling. However, that fluid/swelling is serving a purpose. It is the body's natural response to an injury. In some cases, it can become dangerous, and that is when one would consider applying an agent such as cold - to hold something back. Heat, on the other hand, encourages the relaxing of vessels, which allows for the flow of blood to an area, and with it all the components that the body has available to it, to aid in healing -- this usually leads to what is medically termed 'inflammation'. This is something that the body does to heal an injury. So, there are some cases where heat helps, some where it doesn't -- some cases where cold helps, and some where it doesn't. If what Edward tried worked for him, then it must have been what was needed for his injury at the time. I wouldn't want to contradict his personal experience that was positive. in peace Robjna | ||
Markc Member Post Number: 540 Registered: 06-2000 |
Hi Robjna and Randy ; I think all the various methods are useful to read about , but one never really knows until one tries them all . It's a matter of remebering ideas like this and using them under pressure . Empirical knowledge wins out , and I thank both of you for the extreme opposite views . That keeps it interesting until a burn really happens . I hope no one here ever needs to use any of it . Kind Regards , Mark Mark Campbell | ||
Melli Member Post Number: 299 Registered: 06-2005 |
I was stung by a bee once and decided to try my own remedy: I thought if Bees make honey then why not topically apply honey to a sting? I did and slowly the swelling began to subside and after a few hours the sting was ready to be pulled out but the swelling still took a day or so to completely disappear. Depends on the severity of a burn I always apply a purer form of Aloe Vera. But I keep in mind the option of using heat on a burn for when and if I something happens. | ||
Savio Senior Member Post Number: 581 Registered: 07-2000 |
I would think there is logical reason behind Robjna's experience. 1. First, the cold water (and a bit warm water)carries away any heat that would further deepen the damage, this is important because the damage is frozen thereafter. 2. Then, the running hot water will not produce further damage but only increases the blood flow that enhances the natural healing process. Be careful not to use too "hot" water for this Regards Savio |
