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    Cpl Member Post Number: 242 Registered: 08-2004 |
Remembering dreams. These are some things I did when I was training myself to remember dreams. Perhaps they might be useful to some others: 1: As dreams relate to the subconscious I made friends with my subconscious, by being open to it yet informing it quite firmly and accurately, because this is the nature of things, that it is not the boss, I am. I realized that it and dreams could not harm me; it (and/or the dreams) is merely my servant, faithfully recording and serving up all that I have put there. I rested before sleeping, and laying down looked upon the coming sleep as a restful meditation into a calm and goodness where I could not be harmed. In this state of peace I would surrender to the restful pose of sleep. Often the alpha state before hand brought some images. If they came I let them come and go like any thoughts do when in meditation, while remaining aware of them. 2. The subconscious for a male is represented by the feminine. So I made sure I was happy, relaxed and content in the company of women, and cultured a positive, or at least, not negative, attitude towards women. This, perhaps, was easy because I was teaching young women at the time, so I had to get on with them on a professional standing. 3. I always kept a dream journal nearby with a pen with a light on it, or a light beside me to turn on to see by while writing up the dream. 4. I would affirm each night before sleep that I am the dreamer and therefore whatever happens is my dream and I can -- if need be -- control it. This answers the problem of those dreams in which someone is chasing the dreamer. Shirley McClain (sp?) had one of those which she also wrote about and overcame. You can always turn around in the dream and face the chaser with a "So what do you want in my dream? What's all this about?" Or you could say some truth to the effect of, "Look it's impossible for you to hurt me. Why don't you just give this up and become friends. Otherwise you're out of here." If he refuses, blow on him to see him blow away. It's your dream you are the boss. You can do that. It's all created by you, in your mind. These chasers do not come from the Genetic Mind or global or country consciousness -- unless you are wanted by the law in your country, or the world court! There are doubtless many answers to what the chaser is or represents; but basically in common dreams it is said it is a fear one has deposited in the mind that now rises up to do what you said -- perhaps subconsciously -- it could do. It is, in this case, a time to confront ones own fear. It is only the fear itself that can harm, and if this "fear itself" is eradicated there is no longer a problem. Sometimes the monster chasing or scaring one can be the other side of one that needs opening up to. Jung cited an interesting case, either his or one he heard of, of a young man who saw a great monster rise out of the see as he was standing on the cliff and it came down as if to eat him. The frightened man asked what the dream meant, and was asked, "Are you seeing a new young lady?" to which the man replied, "Yes." The suggestion given, in essence, was, "If it were me, I would marry her." Men often fear the loss of freedom that comes with marriage; the woman, fears the loss of her natural, pure, or heavenly state and virginity. When finding the right person, both fears are essentially groundless and, for most but not all people, their overcoming are essential for leading a life fuller in psychological enrichment. I personally, was "given" the "test" of psychic fears. In a dream I was in a large haunted house far from any other habitat. From out of the darkness, from inside and outside the house came ghosts and demon-like beings flying around and darting towards me to frighten me and take over my power, or something like that. I just opened my heart and said to them all in truth, "I love you!" The place filled with brilliant loving light and they all disappeared -- whether into the love and light or into the darkness was their choice. All feelings are at our disposal to give whenever and wherever we wish, especially in the dream world. When the chips are down, and there is no other way, love IS the most potent force in the universe. It is Creation. All I was, was love. What ghost or demon would want that? But they could join me and become that love if they wished. They could either join me by transforming into love or remain alone in their darkness and fearful environment. The choice was theirs. The important thing is not to run with the fear. The fear is not oneself; it is actually an artificial construct assembled because we thought we needed it -- and maybe we did at the time. But it pays to eradicate it whence it does not belong. 5. I forced myself to wake up and write the dream in my diary. Of all the tasks this was the most difficult and required the greatest concerted effort, night after night until it was second nature. Sometimes I would write for an hour or more, because one is thinking and feeling the dream out too, as one goes along. Initially I was concerned about the loss of sleep affecting my daily work ability. But actually once I did it I found the disruption, if anything, charged me with even more energy. It was as though I'd slept for even longer than I had. I felt truly invigorated. Perhaps it was because the dream and psyche had been healed with each successful interpretation giving a greater psychological foundation to the physical being and waking consciousness. 6. I befriended my servant dreams. Perhaps this might help some would-be dreamers out there. | ||
Cpl Member Post Number: 243 Registered: 08-2004 |
Guess I should mention the obvious, that we always face challenges in life, if not at the moment they'll be coming down the line, because this is how we eternally develop and evolve. These challenges can appear in the dream world as various kinds of "monsters", "foes" or problems to be realized, faced, and dealt with appropriately. Obviously the dreamer can only tell the monster chasing one to go away when conscious of the fact one is dreaming (lucid dreaming). This I encouraged by just affirming a few times to myself every night before falling asleep, "Tonight I will remain conscious as I dream." If I didn't remain conscious in the dream I'd just repeat it again the following night, and the following night, etc. etc. until I became conscious and could reason for myself from the conscious mind in the dream. I would then continue affirming this for several months, repeating this positive affirmation as I drifted into the alpha state. The "I" seemed necessary in the affirmation to keep the conscious mind there for interaction and conscious reasoning in the dream state (lucid dreaming). This seems to: i) get the message clearly across to the subconscious and ii) create the bridge between the conscious and subconscious for more effective remembering and dream interaction and rationalization. I never worry if it doesn't work out that way. My premonition dreams e.g., never are lucid to the degree I can control them, though on the rare occasion I am aware I am dreaming in one, perhaps when it is mixed with more mundane material. Pure premonition dreams seem to derive from another realm of the inner psychological architecture -- the Genetic Mind of the future -- that may preclude lucid dreaming in the form of control. Also, it goes without saying, though I suppose I'd better mention it, I am not super-knowledgeable in the field of dreams. All I know is but a drop in the proverbial bucket, despite being a life-long dreamer. BTW added to the list in the previous post on remembering dreams is: While relaxing in bed before falling asleep I repeatedly, yet calmly and peacefully, instructed myself (or subconscious) with the command, "Remember the dreams tonight. Remember them, wake up, and write them up." When naturally tired it was only necessary to repeat these commands 3-4 times each night before sleeping or drifting into the pre-sleep alpha state. To just remember dreams the "I" was not necessary when the instruction carried into the alpha state. Or it may be that lacking the "I" the command or instruction was more easily carried over into the alpha state and subconscious and therefore carried out. This was perhaps the easier route when I was just tired and wanted to sleep; however it paid to keep reminding oneslf to repeat this. That kept the conscious mind cued in to responding, because it is generally just fading away as one falls to sleep. I would keep reminding it while not forcing it to remain awake. Good dreams and dream well. | ||
Cpl Member Post Number: 244 Registered: 08-2004 |
Hi all, The Solomon Islands M8.0 quake and tsunami of 5-10M in height (news reports say 5m the geological society's map says up to 10m) seems to have been what I saw in a dream just over a year ago. One aged woman and a young child have been confirmed casualties indicating the family-like nature of this tragic tsunami, just as indicated in the dream. Also survivors ran from markets and climbed a small hill behind just as in the dream. The landslides may have been indicated by the sandy parts falling down from the sandy hill we were standing on in the dream. Most of my tsunami premonitions seem over a year before the event. Here's my premonition dream of the tsunami followed by a Yahoo! news article on it. Premonitions in Dreamtime 2006 Another Tsunami 7:15am Jan 14, 2006 I was at the coast with either a friend or my wife when I saw higher-than-normal and thicker-than-normal waves coming in to the shore. They looked to be about 10 – 20 meters high and very deep, broad or thick extending back some distance with slight troughs between the waves. This tsunami is not the La Palma tsunami, or if it is, I was seeing a country not in its immediate path. It seemed somewhat the size of the Dec 2004 tsunami or perhaps just a little smaller. I said we had to get away from the shore and inland as far as possible. We started to hurry inland taking a road through the coastal town or city. There were no really high areas so it was just a horizontal race against time for us. We passed through some crowded stores or covered bazaar-like area. The individual shops were small and covered over (inside somewhere) but they didn’t have independent doors or walls. We were not panicking and as we hurried through I told people in English and Japanese that a tsunami was coming and to get ready and be prepared for it. We made it out the far side of the market and carried on. Eventually we reached an area near the countryside on what appeared to be the outskirts of the town or city. We climbed a little hill about 10 meters high and the water came around us, not violently but it was a little deep. A car was floating by below just above a road that could be seen just beneath it. The water lapped at the hill (that was now made of sand) and some of it started to give way. However some kind of construction-like machine (a small crane or hoist?) was there and lowered us down to the ground that was now free of water. Once down I went over to a youngish darkish skinned man in a dark-colored casual shirt or T-shirt and we talked a little about the incident. I can’t remember what we said. It was somewhat small talk. He looked like an Indonesian or Southern Asiatic type. Did he indicate that we were in an Asiatic country? Possibly, or central or southern American. I didn’t notice the faces of other people in the dream. I saw no skyscrapers in this dream. The city hit wasn’t therefore New York or Los Angeles. It was architecturally less developed than that. I could have been in a couple of different locations within the town or city with one bleeding into the other with my participation in the dream. I think the presence of my wife indicated this will impact families, and I sensed this big and life threatening tsunami will be happening this year. From Yahoo! news: At least 15 dead in Solomons quake, tsunami: This link shows a map too: http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070402/wl_asia_afp/solomonsquake_12 by Evan Wasuka AFP. Mon Apr 2, 4:08 AM ET. HONIARA (AFP) - A powerful undersea earthquake unleashed a tsunami that pounded into the western Solomon Islands early Monday, destroying entire villages and reportedly killing at least 15 people, officials said. The wall of water triggered by the 8.0-magnitude quake -- which witnesses said was up to five metres (16.5 feet) high -- swamped towns, flattened homes, and sparked panic among residents of the impoverished South Pacific state. Communications to the quake-hit area were patchy, making it difficult to assess the number of dead and injured and the damage, Prime Minister Manasseh Sogavare told CNN. The Pacific Tsunami Warning Centre issued a regionwide warning immediately after the quake, stretching as far away as Japan, but later cancelled it. At least 15 people were killed in and around Gizo, the main town in Western Province and a popular tourist and diving spot 40 kilometres (25 miles) from the quake's epicentre, the provincial leader said. "Reports have come in that more than 15 people died, just around Gizo, but with the other islands I cannot tell you," premier Alex Lokopio told Radio New Zealand. The central government reported 12 deaths and the police at least four, but Sogavare warned the death toll would likely rise once rescue teams reached the area. "Most of the islands are low-lying, and the extent of the damage is yet to be known," the prime minister said, adding that a team from his office, the Red Cross and the police were headed to the area. "It's a very trying time for us." In the capital Honiara, the head of the Solomons National Disaster Council, Fred Fakari, told journalists: "Some villages are completely wiped out." The government's communications unit reported six bodies found floating in seas near Gizo town, hours after the shallow quake struck at 7:40 am (2040 GMT Sunday). The US Geological Survey reported a series of aftershocks measuring up to a magnitude of 6.7. Across the Pacific, governments from Australia to New Caledonia and the Northern Marianas evacuated schools and ordered coastal residents to move to higher ground, but no damage was immediately reported. Lokopio, the premier of Western Province, said there was a desperate need for emergency supplies in the Gizo area, where residents remained on a hill behind the town amid strong aftershocks. "What we desperately need now is water, tents and food because almost 3,000-4,000 people are now living on the hill at Gizo," Lokopio said. He said residents had been surprised by the giant waves, which hit just minutes after the area was rocked by the initial quake. "There wasn't any warning. This was a very sad thing because the warning was the earth tremors. It shook us very, very strongly and we were frightened. "All of a sudden the sea was rising up so all the people living around the coastal area, they ran up on the hill." Lokopio said most of the government buildings and businesses in Gizo had been destroyed, along with houses in low-lying areas. Police quoted witnesses as saying waves washed up to 500 metres (yards) inland and destroyed houses, triggered landslides and forced residents to evacuate. The tsunami forced the temporary closure of the airport at Gizo. It later reopened, and aircraft were rushed to the area to distribute some limited emergency supplies and assess the damage. The Solomons government disaster council was meeting late Monday afternoon to decide whether to declare a state of emergency. In Honiara, news of the quake sent people running from waterfront markets, said Daniel Evans, an Australian lawyer. "I just saw everyone on the street start to run and scream," he told AFP. The Solomon Islands, 2,575 kilometres east of Australia, has a little over half a million people living on dozens of islands. End of news article. | ||
Rarena Member Post Number: 204 Registered: 10-2005 |
A good web site: http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/recenteqsww/  | ||
Cpl Member Post Number: 251 Registered: 08-2004 |
I'm posting this here because I couldn't find a section on Prophecies, Predictions and Premonitions or Presentiments. It does relate here but would seem better in an above named section (search brought up nothing). I'll comment in a separate follow-up post on the use of terminology. IS THIS REALLY PROOF THAT MAN CAN SEE INTO THE FUTURE? This Is London May 5, 2007 Do some of us avoid tragedy by foreseeing it? Some scientists now believe that the brain really CAN predict events before they happen Professor Dick Bierman sits hunched over his computer in a darkened room. The gentle whirring of machinery can be heard faintly in the background. He smiles and presses a grubby-looking red button. In the next room, a patient slips slowly inside a hospital brain scanner. If it wasn't for the strange smiles and grimaces that flicker across the woman's face, you could be forgiven for thinking this was just a normal health check. But this scanner is engaged in one of the most profound paranormal experiments of all time, one that may well prove whether or not it is possible to predict the future. For the results -- released exclusively to the Daily Mail -- suggest that ordinary people really do have a sixth sense that can help them 'see' the future. Such amazing studies -- if verified -- might help explain the predictive powers of mediums and a range of other psychic phenomena such Extra Sensory Perception, deja vu and clairvoyance. On a more mundane level, it may account for 'gut feelings' and instinct. The man behind the experiments is certainly convinced. "We're satisfied that people can sense the future before it happens," says Professor Bierman, a psychologist at the University of Amsterdam. "We'd now like to move on and see what kind of person is particularly good at it." And Bierman is not alone: his findings mirror the data gathered by other scientists and paranormal researchers both here and abroad. Professor Brian Josephson, a Nobel Prize-winning physicist from Cambridge University, says: "So far, the evidence seems compelling. What seems to be happening is that information is coming from the future. "In fact, it's not clear in physics why you can't see the future. In physics, you certainly cannot completely rule out this effect." Virtually all the great scientific formulae which explain how the world works allow information to flow backwards and forwards through time - they can work either way, regardless. Shortly after 9/11, strange stories began circulating about the lucky few who had escaped the outrage. It transpired that many of the survivors had changed their plans at the last minute after vague feelings of unease. It was a subtle, gnawing feeling that 'something' was not right. Nobody vocalised it but shortly before the attacks, people started altering their plans out of an unspoken instinct. One woman suffered crippling stomach pain while queuing for one of the ill-fated planes which flew into the World Trade Center. She made her way to the lavatory only to recover spontaneously. She missed her flight but survived the day. Amid the collective outpouring of grief and horror it was easy to overlook such stories or write them off as coincidences. But in fact, these kind of stories point to an interesting and deeper truth for those willing to look. If, for example, fewer people decided to fly on aircraft that subsequently crashed, then that would suggest a subconscious ability to divine the future. Well, strange as it seems, that's just what happens. The aircraft which flew into the Twin Towers on 9/11 were unusually empty. All the hijacked planes were carrying only half the usual number of passengers. Perhaps one unusually empty plane could be explained away, but all four? And it wasn't just on 9/11 that people subconsciously seemed to avoid disaster. The scientist Ed Cox found that trains 'destined' to crash carried far fewer people than they did normally. Dr Jessica Utts, a statistician at the University of California, found exactly the same bizarre effect. If it was possible to divine the future, you might expect those at the sharp end, such as pilots, to have the most finely tuned instincts of all. And again, that's just what you see. When the Air France Concorde crashed in 2000, it wasn't long before the colleagues of those killed in the crash spoke about a sense of foreboding that had gripped the crew and flight engineers before the accident. Speaking anonymously to the French newspaper Le Parisien, one spoke of a 'morbid expectation of an accident'. "I had this sense that we were going to bump into the scenery," he said. "The atmosphere on the Concorde team for the last few months, if one has the guts to admit it, had been one of morbid expectation of an accident. It was as if I was waiting for something to happen." All of these stories suggest that we can pick up premonitions of events that are yet to be. Although these premonitions are not in glorious Technicolor, they are often emotionally powerful enough for us to act upon them. In technical parlance it is known as 'presentiment' because emotional feelings are being received from the future, not hard facts or information. The military has long been fascinated by such phenomena. For many years the US military (and latterly the CIA) funded a secretive programme known as Stargate, which set out to investigate premonitions and the ability of mediums to predict the future. Dr Dean Radin worked on the Stargate programme and became fascinated by the ability of 'lucky' soldiers to forecast the future. These are the ones who survived battles against seemingly impossible odds. Radin became convinced that thoughts and feelings -- and occasionally-actual glimpses of the future -- could flow backwards in time to guide soldiers. It helped them make life-saving decisions, often on the basis of a hunch. He devised an experiment to test these ideas. He hooked up volunteers to a modified lie detector, which measured an electrical current across the surface of the skin. This current changes when a person reacts to an event such as seeing an extremely violent picture or video. It's the electrical equivalent of a wince. Radin showed sexually explicit, violent or soothing images to volunteers in a random sequence determined by computer. And he soon discovered that people began reacting to the pictures before they saw them. It was unmistakable. They began to 'wince' a few seconds before they actually saw the image. And it happened time and time again, way beyond what chance alone would allow. So impressive were Radin's results that Dr Kary Mullis, a Nobel Prizewinning chemist, took an interest. He was hooked up to Radin's machine and shown the emotionally charged images. "It's spooky," he says "I could see about three seconds into the future. You shouldn't be able to do that." Other researchers from around the world, from Edinburgh University to Cornell in the US, rushed to duplicate Radin's experiment and improve on it. And they got similar results. It was soon discovered that gamblers began reacting subconsciously shortly before they won or lost. The same effect was seen in those terrified of animals, moments before they were shown the creatures. The odds against all of these trials being wrong are literally millions to one against. Professor Dick Bierman decided to take this work even further. He is a psychologist who has become convinced that time as we understand it is an illusion. He could see no reason why people could not see into the future just as easily as we dip into memories of our past. He's in good company. Einstein described the distinction between the past, present and future as 'a stubbornly persistent illusion'. To prove Einstein's point, Bierman looked inside the brains of volunteers using a hospital MRI scanner while he repeated Dr Radin's experiments. These scanners show which parts of the brain are active when we do certain tasks or experience specific emotions. Although extremely complex, and with each analysis taking weeks of computing time, he has run the experiments twice involving more than 20 volunteers. And the results suggest quite clearly that seemingly ordinary people are capable of sensing the future on a fairly consistent basis. Bierman emphasises that people are receiving feelings from the future rather than specific 'visions'. It's clear, though, that if ordinary people can receive feelings from the future then perhaps the especially gifted may receive visions of things yet to be. It's also clear that many paranormal phenomena such as ESP and clairvoyance could have their roots in presentiment. After all, if you can see a few seconds into the future, why not a few days or even years? And surely if you could look through time, why not across great distances?It's a concept that ties the mind in knots, unless you're a physicist. "I believe that we can 'sense' the future," says the Nobel Prizewinning physicist Brian Josephson. "We just haven't yet established the mechanism allowing it to happen. "People have had so called 'paranormal' or 'transcendental' experiences along these lines. Bierman's work is another piece of the jigsaw. The fact that we don't understand something does not mean that it doesn't happen.' If we are all regularly sensing the future or occasionally receiving glimpses of it, as some mediums claim to do, then doesn't that mean we can change the future and render the 'prediction' obsolete? Or perhaps we were meant to receive the premonition and act upon it? Such paradoxes could go on for ever, providing a rich seam of material for films such as Minority Report -- based on a short story of the same name -- in which a special police department is able to foresee and prevent crimes before they have even taken place. Could such science fiction have a grain of truth in it after all? The emerging view, Bierman explains, is that 'the future has implications for the past'. "This phenomena allows you to make a decision on the basis of what will happen in the future. Does that restrain our free will? That's up to the philosophers. I'm far too shallow a person to worry about that." The problem with presentiment is that it appears so nebulous that you can't rely on it to make reliable decisions. That may be the case, but there are plenty of instances where people wished they had listened to their premonitions or feelings of presentiment. One of the saddest involves the Aberfan disaster. This occurred in 1966 when a coal tip collapsed and swept through a Welsh school killing 144 people, including 116 children. It turned out that 24 people had received premonitions of the tragedy. One involved a little girl who was killed. She told her mother shortly before she was taken to school: "I dreamed I went to school and there was no school there. Something black had come down all over it." So should we listen to our instincts, hunches and dreams? Some experts believe we may already be using them in our everyday lives to a surprising degree. Dr Jessica Utts at the University of California, who has worked for the US military and CIA as an independent auditor of its paranormal research, believes we are constantly sampling the future and using the knowledge to help us make better decisions. "I think we're doing it all the time," she says. "We've looked at the data and it does seem to happen." So perhaps the Queen in Through The Looking Glass was right: "It's a poor sort of memory that only works backwards." ............ NHNE Brain/Mind Research: http://tinyurl.com/2fesqv http://tinyurl.com/2fesqv NHNE Extraordinary Human Capabilities: http://tinyurl.com/y49wac Hi Cpl, Please do not cut and paste such long articles. Posting a few links would also do the trick. Any further posts of this nature will be rejected. FIGU Moderator. | ||
Cpl Member Post Number: 252 Registered: 08-2004 |
PREDICTIONS, PROPHECIES, PREMONITIONS, PRESENTIMENTS. Regarding rendering predictions obsolete in the "Is This Really Proof That Man Can See Into the Future?" article above: The big question is whether the “sensing” is a prediction, presentiment, prophecy or a premonition. In this post I look at the meaning and usage of these terms and offer some suggestions and finally comment on "rendering predictions obsolete": This may appear to some as mere semantics, but I think we need to get these words clear in our minds as to what they actually signify, rather than having them all overlapping in meaning in a confused and inconclusive manner. PREDICTION: "1. The action of predicting future events, an instance of this, a forecast, a prophecy" (Shorter OED). While “predicting” is currently used to mean forecasting and prophecy I would suggest the best usage of the word is that which the word itself actually means the “foretelling” or "saying before" of future events. To pre-dict is to “say” (dict) “before” (pre) (shorter OED). To PREDICT, therefore, is to say something will happen that does happen. Before something happens a prediction says it will happen. It indicates that a prediction cannot be changed, because if it doesn’t happen it wasn’t pre-dicted -- a “prediction” would just have been claimed. If a thing doesn’t happen, obviously you cannot “say before” that the event happened, because it didn't. Predictions then are unchangeable, or the prediction is wrong and therefore not a pre-diction by definition. PROPHECIES are essentially warnings, as are premonitions and presentiments. Since a warning invites the possibility of change I see this as the difference between predictions, and prophecies, premonitions and presentiments: prophecies, presentiments and premonitions need not happen in all details; predictions must. Which means we should really be referring to Nostradamus’ quatrains as predictions -- if they are unchangeable -- rather than prophecies. This, though, is complicated by the fact he intended some of his writings as warnings to mankind, which would make those writings premonitions or prophecies, because presumably the warned-of events can be changed. PREMONITION is “the action of warning in advance; an advance notification or warning. Now usu., a presentiment, esp. of something bad” (Shorter OED). The root meaning of “monition” (Latin monitio) is “advise, warn…” and it means “admonition”, a warning again. All meanings of “monition” are warnings of some kind (Shorter OED). PRESENTIMENT is a sentiment or feeling before something occurs that it is going to occur. "A mental impression or feeling about a future event; a vague expectation; a foreboding, esp. of misfortune" (Shorter OED). A presentiment then, like those the scientists are researching in the article above, is somewhat vague in characteristic and relying more on feeling or sentiment, differentiating it from prophecies and premonitions which usually present more detail related to a warning of some kind. How do prophecies and premonitions differ? One definition of prophecy is a premonition by a prophet. It would seem to generally have more specific detail, like a prediction; such and such will happen unless....While the prediction says such and such will happen. Period. Premonitions seem almost identical to prophecies in character. I would suggest they are just a little less clear than prophecies in their details and meaning; there is a clear warning, but the details of that warning seem a little less clearly articulated than in a prophecy, perhaps because there is a tinge of presentiment about them. Are my own dream premonitions then warnings, prophecies, or actually predictions of future events? Quite frankly, when I have them I do not know. Perhaps they are a mixture, and perhaps this is why our terms have tended to overlap in meaning. Something of the event usually seems inevitable, but the effects on people usually do not seem inevitable. Upon waking from a premonition I am always full of the feeling and thought that "something like this is definitely going to happen and something could be done if only..." People, after all, can change their plans, go somewhere else, or just be prepared in order to change the outcome to less harmful or better. This is the prime reason for informing others of my premonitions: to attempt to get out the warning so it might help others by lessening or completely alleviating the specific danger facing those others. So I much appreciate anyone sending them on to others. You never know just who might hear of a warning that triggers a presentiment, feeling, hunch, dream, gut feeling, or intuition (there are so many potential triggers of change here) of their own leading them to taking action of considerable benefit, possibly even life-saving. This is also why I refer to my dreams as premonitions: they are at least warnings, while I do not know if they must happen (predictions). It is only really after the event that it is possible to know whether what I saw was actually a prediction, prophecy, or premonition, but since I'm writing them up just after seeing them in dreams I think it more accurate to call them premonitions at that time. It is a difficult decision to make and I still wonder whether I've made the best decision. I welcome any opinions here. I therefore respectfully suggest that “predictions” can not be rendered obsolete as the article wonders. The article's paradox here is merely within the semantics of not having the words clear in specific meaning and usage. It is events seen or felt in premonitions and presentiments (a sentiment beforehand that something may happen) that are changeable. Only that which must happen (a prediction) whatever it is, will happen, all else (premonitions, presentiments, prophecies) are changeable. cpl | ||
Cpl Member Post Number: 264 Registered: 08-2004 |
Killer tornadoes to return to US? Premonition dream of 29 May 2007, Japan. cpl In my dream this morning I was in the countryside with some houses and green gardens round about – presumably this is America. I was at home with my two children – I have no children myself, again this is the role I have in the dream. The wind starts to get very fierce and I become concerned that it might spawn a tornado, I look out the window and sure enough tornadoes are spawned across the countryside. They aren’t massive but there are many. As I watch, one or two start heading towards us. Then one comes right up to our house and I shout, “Everybody out!” as I know the tornado is coming straight for the house through the large glass windows, and we have to just run for it and hope for the best. I presume there is nowhere in the house to hide from the tornado, because it is usually best to stay inside and cover oneself with a mattress or blankets in a small, protected inner room. Anyway, I, the person or subject in the premonition dream, tells everyone to get out, for whatever reason. The next I know, the house is gone – no trace of it remains, except some children’s toys and a few broken and scattered personal belongings strewn here and there on the grass and by a grassy bank. I'm not sure if it was a river bank or just a calf- or knee-high length grassy bank on its own that some people were now lying by or on. One man there is clearly exhausted from the debacle and feeling shattered as his and others’ lives have been suddenly and drastically changed for the worst. I walk along to see what other damage there is. Some spaces exist where I think houses had been. I come to a corner and see a large corner house (perhaps the day before it had been a $1/2 - 1 million home?) with all its windows gone and walls battered and damaged. No one will be living there now. Then I woke. I’m almost certain this dream means there will be lives lost (the two lost children?) in more deadly tornadoes coming to the US. The two children lost in the dream were not seen again. They just weren’t around any more. The nature of that family (mine in the dream) had changed. I think my wife in the dream survived, and we'd be living on without the children. The focus in this dream was perhaps human loss. Take care and be prepared in the US! I do not know exactly where in the US this is headed for or exactly when. cpl | ||
Cpl Member Post Number: 265 Registered: 08-2004 |
A friend in the US tells me there were three tornadoes in Iowa last weekend. Many houses were damaged and one woman died. Don't have enough detail to be sure this is what I saw in the dream. I suspect what I saw is different, but maybe... cpl | ||
Gicayhwh Member Post Number: 39 Registered: 06-2003 |
Hi all of you, my good friends, I had a dream of Semjase, and kissing her. I wish there was a machine to replay back. The craft looked like there was a half airplane, like a big fish cut into half, then toward the tail end, there was a giant vertical flyweel, then the thing rested on the ground. Then, while I was kind of a scared person, a gorgeous girl emerged from that craft and we caress to enter a small restaurant. I asked her if she was 400 years old; but she said: Where did you get that from? I said it was from Billy. She had no answer. That was my nice dream. A figu guy. | ||
Rarena Member Post Number: 232 Registered: 10-2005 |
Dear Cpl, Really enjoyed your dissertation on premonition. It was very interesting and well written. Thanks Patton, the military general was likely to be in touch with that aspect... surviving mulitple skirmishes the way he did and knowing of reincarnation. While being regressed by Dolores Cannon one time as a group she progressed us into the future. She mentioned it was a new life yet, according to Billy the CCB Comprehensive Consciousness Block will not allow this so and it may be just incorrect concept/terminology by Dolores. That's the way it is in science... the discoverers who are unfamiliar with the material make mistakes so that others can take over and learn from them more clearly. We all have something to contribute and can likewise, learn from each other. Paying attention to these other senses (similar to the seventh sense) is important and meaningful even though it may be a very subtle "feeling" or premonition. | ||
Badr Moderator Post Number: 177 Registered: 12-2004 |
Hello Randy, Just wanted to comment on what you said „ Paying attention to these other senses (similar to the seventh sense) is important and meaningful even though it may be a very subtle "feeling" or premonition. “ The spiritual teachings (Geisteslehre) does teach about 7 senses but from my understanding the seventh sense is not Premonition, but the 2 last senses are of a higher form the first 5 known senses. I will leave it at that, if anyone ever starts the spirit lessons it is mentioned in page 78 and 99. I am not sure if it is mentioned in other sources, but searching through the archives might help, maybe even in the German forum, translation programs can always help out. Salome, Badr | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 1222 Registered: 12-1999 |
Hello, Looking back over the archives, Jacob mentioned the last two senses were sensing and receiving. I don't think premonition would fall into either one of these two senses. Scott | ||
Incredible Member Post Number: 17 Registered: 06-2007 |
Hey: Somebody want to explain me about this? What are some entities that sometimes I saw in my dreams? The entities are black shadows with pointed cap, and they float like spirits. The entity consisted of a gray skeleton with a long black robe with pointed cap. I was awake in my bed in the middle of the night. The entity was floating over me, each time that the entity approached me, it begin to reconstruct itself. I saw the progressive reconstruction of it's body parts in details. Then suddenly the entity disappears!!! I was awake, and I continued awake after that event. what is that? | ||
Incredible Member Post Number: 18 Registered: 06-2007 |
Hey Scott and Bard, what are those 2 non material senses? What do they capture? | ||
Peter_brodowski Member Post Number: 312 Registered: 01-2004 |
hello, i asked a question to billy a while ago... what are the 6th and 7th senses. he replied them as being 6th=psyche, 7th=spirit. | ||
Badr Moderator Post Number: 178 Registered: 12-2004 |
Hello everyone, Scott, what you said is correct. The German words used are Fühlen & Empfindung, so anyone interested can look up these two words in a dictionary, since I don’t know what is the FIGU approved translation of those two words. The reason I didn’t mention the answer is that I would like to promote the idea of “searching” rather than “asking” for information… People tend to get very lazy when they are given all the answers on a silver plate. Incredible, nobody said “non material” and if you want to know the answer of what they capture, then I would advise to start studying. Since you seem to be the type of person that likes to ask question rather than doing the hard work of reading and looking through the information and finding the information by your own effort, then sorry maybe someone else is ready to hand the information to you so you don’t have to bother searching by yourself. I am not saying I will never give any answers, but I would rather give it to someone that studies and has thought about issue, but couldn’t get further. Peter, If you could give me the place where he said that I would want to see it, because the Psyche and the Spirit are not “material senses”. Salome, Badr | ||
Savio Senior Member Post Number: 574 Registered: 07-2000 |
Hi Badr I think Peter is referring to the following Q&A:- Peter_brodowski Posted on Sunday, March 07, 2004 - 05:46 pm: hello billy, What are the 6th & 7th senses? Thank you Answer 6th: Psyche; 7th: Consciousness Salome Savio | ||
Badr Moderator Post Number: 179 Registered: 12-2004 |
Thanks Savio, Well what might clear it up from my understanding is that the “Fühlen” is done through the Psyche, and the “Empfindung” through the Consciousness. Billy wasn’t very detailed with his answer but it is kind of correct, but doesn’t give the full picture. PS: If anyone has any more to say, Lets move the discussion to another place. Like FIGU's Discussion Board » The Spiritual Teachings » The Spirit, Spirit Forms and the Psyche Salome, Badr | ||
Rarena Member Post Number: 237 Registered: 10-2005 |
Hello Badr, Please excuse my inference of premonition possibly being either the 6th or 7th senses. It was not my intention. My point was that even subtle dream signals can evolve our consciousness and in the case of CPL's previous dissertation: quite possibly save someone from dangerous situations. Thank you for your help, appreciate your knowledge of the spiritual teachings which can last a life time... no? Salome, Rarena ôżô | ||
Badr Moderator Post Number: 180 Registered: 12-2004 |
Hello Randy, You don’t need to excuse yourself to me, it happens to many. The thing that is important is what one makes out of such a situation. I was hoping that you don’t misunderstand my post to you, and take it in a good sense. Well I am still at the beginning of my study, so I am still working on understanding the teachings and building my foundations, and would point out small things to people that might help someone understand or recognize an error or misunderstanding. Just for you and all the rest to remember I am no teacher, therefore I also could make mistakes. But I try my best. Salome, Badr | ||
Whappybugger Member Post Number: 10 Registered: 05-2004 |
Hi everyone, i am very new to all this, but have wondered for a long time abot dreams and spirit and the subconcious brought on by a dream that i remember when i as a little girl. I had a dream that i walked in to an enchanting room covered wall to wall with all the toys a little girl could ever want, as i stood in the door way i saw a man rocking an a rocking chair at the far end of the room, he beconed me to go to him, which i did, he took me in his arm and rocked me gently until i was calm and no-longer afraid.I felt very relaxed in his company. When i awoke i went into my parents room and told them there was a man in the room as the dream was so vivid and i so young that is what i thought. My room was inspected to find nobody there and i put to bed, nothing was mentioned again untill i was a little older when i recaled the deam to my mother, the man i discribed was the exact discription of my uncle who had died when i was two years old and thu didn't remember him. And so i wondered is this a vague memory intertwined in a dream, or two spirits meeting in the subconcious, what do you think? | ||
Cpl Member Post Number: 275 Registered: 08-2004 |
Interesting dream Wb, Jung has said that often dreams of a room in a house or the house itself can represent the subconscious, so you may well be right about it relating to your subconscious. Perhaps rather than two spirits it could be the two consciousnesses of you and your uncle relating within the subconscious. Your psyche might have both memories and impressions of your uncle from a) the subconscious that you are not consciously aware of and b) a certain amount of your genetic or DNA material may relate to that of your uncle providing a possible link, again which could be expressed through the psyche in the form of dreams. If the time of your dream was close to the time of the death of your uncle perhaps his consciousness impinged on yours via the psyche at that time. This would seem, however, unlikely if the dream happened some years after your uncle's death. Regards, | ||
Incredible Member Post Number: 35 Registered: 06-2007 |
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hi: I'm the brother of Incredible and I don't have account with you. Thanks to billy meier I'm practicing meditation from about 6 years. From that time I had many interesting vivid dreams. One of many things that catched my attention are some gigantic entities that have a field of white light around them as an aura. They had very refined face, very beautiful in appearance. They where a man an a woman. By their way of acting, they appear to be more evolved beings than us. Two days ago I saw those entities again, and when they saw me, they expelled me from the place where they where in an abrupt way but compassionated at the same time. I could go an do what I wanted on that dream. That "dream" was as to be awake. Who are those peoples or entities? Are those entities from the spiritual plane of this planets? Are they extraterrestrials? |
