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Memo00
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Posted on Thursday, June 21, 2007 - 05:23 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hi

since its your dream and its your mind you are the only one who can be 100% sure of what those beings represent

in my opinion the fact that they are giants and that they expel you could mean that in some way (maybe unconscious) you feel unworthy of something. . .

personally i think that they aren´t "real" (persons or beings), but they are part of normal dreaming (creation of your own consciousness and influenced by the environment and/or the collective), to think otherwise is not so far from religious thinking and all those persons who say that this or that saint appeared to him/her in dreams and all those crap. . .

always remember that: no matter how evolved is someone, one day he was where you are and one day you will be where he is, even if we ignore it or forget it, we already have all we need to grow

and with Billy and his teachings, its a great time to be here, there`s really no need for advanced extraterrestrials or spiritual beings of any kind to come to teach us

take care
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Incredible
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Posted on Thursday, June 21, 2007 - 09:04 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I saw those beings in an apartment building where I lived 11 years ago.

When I live there in those years, I was attacked by "paranormal" forces to such a degree that I was at the edge of the death. I became skeletal.

I was attacked by some red entities, not by the entities that I described in the last post.

The feminine entity saw me like with compassion reflected in her face or something like that.
She moves away from my side and told me: "move always from me" "I don't want you near me"

And the male entity expelled me of the place.

maybe in that building somebody is practicing witchcraft or something like that.
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Memo00
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Posted on Friday, June 22, 2007 - 05:46 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hi again

its not absolutely impossible

but its most improbable

i think all those things you relate are creations of your own consciousness

maybe its related to some traumatic experience from your childhood or something similar, it can also be some kind of mental disorder (and you shouldn`t take this personal, its like having any other disease, its something that we don´t choose, but that we can overcome)

many times when someone (for one or another reason) can´t accept something the mind creates things "to justify" it

personally i think those entities you describe represent your parents

which is the truth is something that only concerns you, but always remember to first search for the most logical answer

more than 99% of the times all the paranormal and alien stuff is just something we create with our minds

take care


ahhhh y si hablas español checa este artículo:

http://es.figu.org/ensenanza_del_espiritu/fuerzas_ocultas
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Truthseeker
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Posted on Tuesday, September 25, 2007 - 04:14 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Greetings everyone,

Concerning dreams, I'm just wondering if any of you have had to deal with a certain kind of situation from which I've had to live with for many years and possibly now for the rest of my life.

The situation goes like this. Every so often I am reminded over and over again via a repeating dream concerning a bad situation I once went through, way back in my teen years, leading to a tragic lost of a girl-woman friend I once loved very deeply. An incident which happened, because of extreme anxiety attacks I always had to deal with at the time, relating to continued abuse that I was going through within family, which unfortunately let to misunderstandings with the girl I had truly loved, etc. Now even 20 some years later I really don't give it all that much thought, until these dreams happen again, reminding me of these long ago past bad anxiety situations which had at the time caused the worse of the worse to happen. And to think that in the past 20 or so years I would eventually get over the unwanted dreams, yet even now they still persist when I always try to forget and leave behind it me. As for the girl, she has long since moved away to live out her own life, in her own normal way, for which I never saw her again.

Now having said all that, any suggestions on how to free myself of it?

James Truthseeker
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Markc
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Posted on Tuesday, September 25, 2007 - 12:58 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi James ;

I hope you take my words as true advice fro someone who has experience with this matter .

You need new experiences , but not the same kind of crucial , kiss-or-die type all important romantic euphoria that almost always accompanies a teenager's life .

Since you are older , you should seek out casual company to have friendships to share experiences with . Everything else will follow suit . Don't be nervous , don't think that you have to make moves , but be very casual and open , carefree and unfettered . Always .

New experiences will open up the rest of your life , which is a positive thing , always . Being alive is not a boxed in closed shut door .

Enjoy life , Mark
Mark Campbell
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Peter_brodowski
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Posted on Tuesday, September 25, 2007 - 05:04 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hey james,
it sounds like you have some conclusions to come to, to put that event to rest. maybe you are in denial about something?
who knows, but from experience i can tell you getting rid of unwanted thoughts and issues, requires one to face them and to be honest with oneself.
hope that helps, it helped me :-)
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Truthseeker
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Posted on Tuesday, September 25, 2007 - 10:36 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Mark,

Thanks for the advice, except I've done all that already and really did not notice much difference.
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Rarena
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Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 - 06:57 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi James,

Am in agreement with Mark and also, when dreams occur and occur it is because they have not been resolved.

Nature, or Creation... has a way of correcting our thoughts about something. If the Plejaren are correct and we do indeed NOT know love... then maybe that is the message. Rather than a dependence on that person because what you focus on grows... focus on something that you want to come.

This could be your brains' way of pointing the way to your ability to create your own reality.

As Mark says... carefree or unfettered... another way to put it is to be open to everything and attached to nothing...
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Sirashwin
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Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 - 09:37 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dear James

Well i am not so sure that i should even be posting on this; but just had a hunch to do so.

To tell you honestly i have practically no experience nor knowledge or any sort of wisdom in these topics; but i feel if you are so plagued by this problem then why not try to meet this person just like that. Just like visiting a long lost relative or someone. Because i feel new experiences on this issue might change your perception on all this. Because ultimately however evolved we are, we tend to live in our own "world" constructed by our perceptions.

Just a passing thought
ashwin
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Adityasonakia
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Posted on Saturday, September 29, 2007 - 03:21 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dear Ashwin,

You are right, dreams are our own creation, but don't you think that some people have visions and premonitions, if i can say that, in their dreams?

Salome
Aditya
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Incredible
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Posted on Saturday, September 29, 2007 - 09:33 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think that dreams are something more than just dreams.

My brother that meditate have some vivid "dreams" that happens in real life.

Months ago my mother had problem with the vesicle and called the 911 (emergency) because she had a lot of pain because she though that the pain was the hearth.

First a police officer come to the house, the last name of the police officer was Samoano, I remember that name because that name was not common.

Samoano greet me and my brother when we come to the livingroom.

Then the paramedic comes and taken my mother to the hospital.

That night my brother go to sleep,and in the morning he suddenly had a dream with the police that comes to my house.

He dreamed that a criminal killed the police with an assault riffle.

Some months after that, happened exactly what my brother dreamed, a criminal killed the police exactly as my brother dreamed.

That happened in the area where I live and the local press covered all happenings and the hunt for the criminal.

After that the criminal was hunted and killed
"we born to die and we die to born"

"Dont take the life seriously, after all you wont go out alive from her"
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Edward
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Posted on Sunday, September 30, 2007 - 02:34 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi dear James.....

I did sense something related to a female in your life, which I also took as:
perhaps James may have lost a long lost girlfriend...in his past. And presto:
now you do explain why. Thus, my perception with the concerning, was in the
correct direction!

Well, like they say: Love Can Make You, Or... Break You!

The recurring dream would indeed, some way or another still be imbedded in
your Sub-Consciousness, I would think. And so ever now and than, it will
surface to remind you, which is of course, a very very Stressing experience.

It truly seems that you have not Distanced your self from the matter, which
you should! But, of course, when One experiences the dreams Unconsciously
(generated)...but still experiencing it Consciously: does effect One's way of
thinking, and in One's daily life.

James, you will have to do it all yourself, by Mastering those unwanted dreams
that Haunt you, so to speak. When they arise, you will have to suppress them
with your Positive THINKING, and place your Self ABOVE and Set Aside....those
recurring dreams: Do NOT let the dreams Master YOU...YOU should Master the
dreams: again, through your (own) ways of (Conscious) THINKING!

Billy even teaches us that we should leave the Past behind, and focus
ourselves towards (Today and) our Future events, to come. Build our own NEW
Future, and starting Fresh with a NEW SLATE! If One does not do so: One will
truly Stagnate Oneself, in the dream, and this will Stagnate you from
Progressing further in your life; it is - Mentally -, in your way (and
blocking), so to speak.

Thus, James: it is all up to you!

"MASTER IT, before IT Masters YOU!"

YOU are the only one whom can resolve this! It is all - Between The Ears -, as
they say.

And if you have Mastered it: Than you have learnt a great deal of Mastering
other Unwanted dreams, and have Control over other aspects in your life. If
you do not Master IT, you are only Neglecting your own Mental State (of being)
and helping it to Degrade! Thus, DO NOT Neglect your Mental State as well as
your Body: Remember, YOU are (STILL) a Spark of CREATION, and generate
Positive aspects that will control the Negative aspects within you! By doing
so: YOU have Contributed NEW Positive Energy to CREATION(likewise, to
yourself!), and your surroundings.

"If you have Control over your dreams, you have Control over your daily life!"

"Where there is a WILL....there is a WAY!!"


Edward.
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Rarena
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Posted on Monday, October 01, 2007 - 08:15 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dear James,

Edward and Mark and the others are right. Your free will is the issue here. It continues to remind you that this is not resolved. Resolve it.

It is sort of looking behind rather than looking ahead and the heart is trying to take control of the mind, which, of course is the organ we should listen to (mind).

Why should we listen to the mind? Because the heart is a pump and is controlled by the mind, so the mind is the builder, the master of the body because it contains that little spark which enlivens every cell of your body.

The folks who mentioned that your reoccuring dream may be a premonition... are correct as well.

The last two senses, perception and feelings are sort of new to us, in that Billy has made us aware of them and your consciousness may be attempting to enable this ability.

So, in regards to perception and deep feelings, how you feel about it and how you deal with it are in your hands. Positively or negatively. Positivly would be learning from it and not allowing it to occur again and negatively would be asking another "Why?", in other words...not taking responsiblity for your awareness and projecting it upon another to answer/correct for you.

The answer is within.

For example... and this is a general broad example for all to learn from; If someone is behaving in a way not appreciated by you and you allow that behavoir to affect you... then, to me... Why would you want to give them power over how YOU feel? That would be negative behavoir on your part.

My reasoning is... you are giving them the power over you. Why would you want to do that? You have the power to not let that person bother you yet you (in the above example) give it to them.

Okay objective look:

So, I take this person to the doctor so YOU can get better... this is absurd, we know this...

YOU can change your mind and view of the situation in a millisecond, your percepetion...

We did what we had to do, to get to where we are today... We won't make those mistakes again because we learned from them... or... we should have learned from them and now... do.

If you attach your improvement and evolution upon the behavoir of another... You sort of shift the responsiblity for awhile, not dealing with it because now you have time to wait for that OTHER person to get better before you have to get better...and that may be a very long wait.

In YOUR mind, of course, you can shift in a second. Now, having experience with this myself... it is not easy. But it is evolution and that is always good.

Take it easy my friend...

The solution is at hand...

Randy ô¿ô


Life is either daring or nothing... Helen Keller
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Cpl
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Posted on Thursday, October 04, 2007 - 07:40 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dear James,

Once you have learned all there is to learn from that situation the repeating dream will end. This learning may be of a feeling nature as well as a thinking and life pattern/behavioral one. If you try to run from the dream, experience or its lessons, it, or the lessons will pursue you until the lessons are learned and resolved. The experience appears to involve many things from many different aspects and they all need resolving. It looks very much as though you have not fully resolved all these issues within your psyche, and perhaps your heart.

Have you made quite sure that there is no possibility of the situation recurring with someone else in the future (this is not just a decision of will, though that, of course is there)? If your answer is not a clear "Yes" you still have things to work on regarding the experience for it is unresolved. If the answer is a clear "Yes" articulate to yourself (no need to do it here) precisely how you know this will not occur again. Do you also feel that, and now understand where you stand on the issue and how you feel about it? If so you will be able to look upon the entire situation with compassion, your head will unite with your heart, and the repeating dreams should leave you.

Sincerely,
cpl
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Cpl
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Posted on Thursday, October 04, 2007 - 07:52 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

FYI here is my latest Premonition Dream -- at least it seemed to be such.


Land Upheaval Dream
2 October 2007


After another month’s break another premonition dream has arrived. It definitely felt like a premonition, but the content was so remarkable that I’m still wondering whether perhaps it was just an incredible, and vivid, dream. Anyway here it is:

Dreamed I was inside the house with my wife. I went into a small room either to rest or lie down. Then I felt the house shake and thought it was a moderately sized earthquake. I went outside to look and saw part of the house falling down and the land dropping away. After calling to my wife she came running out of that falling part of the house and we went to a part of the land that seemed more stable. Presumably the land, the large rather wild grassy garden that the house stood on, was ours -- or the owners we were representing in the dream. As usual I was being someone else in the dream. I knew this immediately upon waking as I do not have any land of my own at the moment and have never lived in a place like “our” house in the dream. The locale was not known to me at all.

Then the other part of the house, where I had been fell down and the land started rising rapidly in another place a short distance away. A whole chunk or wedge of land erupted up from the field and headed upwards at about a 60 degree angle. It rose about twenty feet into the air and stopped. Other areas started shifting. Some went down and others rose. It was somewhat violent and rough in movement and not smooth or wavelike at all. Bits of once green land were jutting up and others were collapsing. It was a land upheaval.

My wife and I ran attempting to miss the violent areas and reach safe parts if we could, though areas were only safe temporarily. The whole land area was convulsing sections at a time, some more violently than others. Our flat horizontal garden/land was no longer flat it was jutting up and down and the whole landscape was shifting. Our area was becoming like a low-level mountain. It was all rising into the air. We made our way down from the top and saw we were on a piece of land, made up of what had been ours and others, that looked like something between a mountain and a hill. It was a very steep hill and uneven, but still over 80% green except for where the earth had been torn upwards and left exposed. I estimated the height of the new hill/mountain we were on at 150-400 hundred meters from bottom to top. I only caught one overall glimpse.

When it seemed to be over, we, my wife and I, were safe and looking for, or going to meet, a few other people around there who were also trying to find some safe area. We had lost everything. Our home was gone and everything we had had there. All we had was what we were standing up in. I wondered what I was going to do, because I had no real proof of identity or proof of what I owned other than possibly the cards and papers in my pocket at the time. I think I had these, but cannot remember clearly. At any rate, whoever I was representing would only have what cards or papers they happened to be carrying on their person at the time, and being at rest at home that is obviously minimal.

There was more to the dream, but this is all I can remember. I was at times aware I was dreaming and did try to notice the locale, but the experience was so strong it was difficult to concentrate on that. Afterwards, recalling some of the images I realized it was obviously a rural or semi-rural area. At one time I thought I might have been in Indonesia somewhere, Bali or somewhere like that. At other times it looked like it could even have been in the country in Japan. It wasn’t a densely populated area at all. I seemed to be in the country and not even in a village. There were other abodes dotted around. It was a green, wild, with some trees and somewhat wooded area, but not at all densely wooded. While it might have been Bali the greenery was not tropical. It seemed either semi-tropical or temperate and comfortable.

I’ve never had a vivid dream like this before in which land behaved like that. It was much more severe than an earthquake. Strangely though, I wasn’t too scared or afraid for myself or anyone. Maybe it was all too quick for that? I was concerned and worried, but that was all. Notably I didn’t see or feel any death involved, which pleasantly surprised me. If this is actually going to happen and it seemed it will—hard as it is for my left brain to accept that because I’ve never seen anything like it on our planet – the good news may be that any loss of life will be minimal, at least compared with what might be expected in such an upheaval. This was another incongruity about the dream which might suggest it was not a premonition despite the feeling it was. Time will tell, and I cannot, unfortunately, put a time frame to it.

The event was isolated and there was no indication of cause or other events related to it.
Make of this what you will.

Warmest regards,

cpl
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Kingman
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Posted on Thursday, October 04, 2007 - 10:41 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi cpl,

Believe it or not but I have had that almost identical dream. I sensed an earthquake and I ran out of where I lived and watched as my house, which I also don't own in reality, broke up and fell away. My oldest brother joined me and we had to keep changing our position to avoid the land upheavals. eventually it calmed down and we found ourselves left on a hilltop that was half grassy and part jagged protruding ridges. It felt like we were near the 2-3000 feet high level.

This happened nearly 20yrs ago, but I remembered it clearly due to the intensity I experienced in this dream. What it meant for me I've think was a coming drastic shift in what made my life stable. Soon after this dream I started dating a woman who I eventually followed to her hometown, leaving my real desire to live at the beach to find myself in Arizona. I went from wearing wet suits to wearing business suits. All aspects of who I was before were put on hold as I tried to blend into her world. Well it was a disaster. After about a year and a half I ended the story with her by just packing all my goods in my truck and driving away without even saying goodbye, which was a mutual feeling from both of us.

That's what did happen to me after that particular type of dream.
a friend in america
Shawn
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Francofiori2004
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Posted on Friday, October 05, 2007 - 10:58 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Based on my astrological study, I found that probably will be terrible earthquakes in USA in genuary and february 2008.
Maybe your drea was about that.
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Cpl
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Interesting, Shawn.

Certainly hope (and think) that an experience like that is not heading my way :-). My wife and I have been happily married for 13 years, and the couple in the dream was fine together they just had to adapt together to a new reality for themselves. Does that apply to me? That's always possible, but I don't actually think so -- yet, anyway (always planning changes for the better). I am considering investing in a mountainous locale, but it looks nothing at all like the place I saw and the climate was/is different. When I first started having these premonition dreams I thought they were related to me personally, naturally, as this is the usual interpretation of dream imagery. It took the Dec 2004 tsunami and other events before I realized they were not talking about me, but that I was put in others' situations to experience their reality as my own. It has one effect of assisting ones realization that we are all family and what happens on the news and to people in or of another country is actually happening to us and our own family. Everyone out there is a very real person just like ourselves, with family, loved ones, and a very personal existence just as important and valid as our own: they are not them; they are us. Also in dreams the subject and object, or roles of a couple, are often reversed as Jung observed. Thus, others can become us and we others, in dream time.

I tend to think this last dream was/is a potential for some place or places sometime in the future -- possibly some time out. But obviously I do not know. I have had other dreams of future potential that still could, but need not, occur -- most notably nuclear detonations and the La Palma mega-tsunami.

Some years back (5 or so?) I had a dream of a small fiery meteor landing locally that didn't do a lot of damage but shook up people in the high inland area a bit. I thought this can't actually happen (surely there'd be a massive explosion?) and that it probably related to something for myself. My life just went on, however, and now I think it may well have been foretelling the recent meteor that crashed down in Peru making people sick there, although the countryside seemed a bit greener, though I don't know what the area in Peru was like prior to the meteor impact. Another time I saw great chunks of ice, some as large as a house, falling onto the earth from the upper atmosphere -- really weird, but the sense of it was that it was somehow true. A couple of days later I read in a newspaper of exactly that: large chunks of ice really do often careen through our atmosphere usually completely melting up before reaching the earth (the article even had an artist's impression). But occasionally these do come through to land the size of a rock. I’ve had many other dreams like this too. Notably, in this falling ice dream, it showed the potential, while the reality was different. The reality is usually different in some details from the dream, which seems to have the purpose of informing and catching the interest rather than giving an absolute 100% accurate picture.

Whether dreams are personal or a premonition -- when they have that sense or feel about them of premonition -- is a fascinating subject.

Thanks for your input.

Hi Franco, I usually dream an actual earthquake as an earthquake, like the Fukuoka, and Izu Peninsular quakes of previous years. An upheaval like I saw, if occurring, certainly would quake the earth but it seemed more and different from that. The Izu quakes were caused by the volcanic eruptions there (that I saw one month prior to their eruption). Obviously if this land upheaval occurs something else would seem related to it, but I don't think it represents only one or more earthquakes.
Thanks.

cpl
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Jplagasse
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Hi guys...

Just a few thoughts i've been contemplating for a long time now.

What we see and understand in our dreams MUST be tempered by our individual experiences and
understandings.
For example, for "real bush guys", a chain saw (or axe) is a symbol of ability, with which firewood, living habitats etc. and everything else resulting from their use as tools comes about.

To a city person, this same chainsaw might be a symbol of massacre... blood & guts etc.

Now... how does one relate to the above differences?

Most curious on any comments, personal thoughts from anybody on this etc.

Only one example, there are others.
Regards,
JP
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Cpl
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Posted on Saturday, October 06, 2007 - 10:21 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You are so right, JP.

The dreamer oneself is the best decoder of his/her own dreams, assuming there's an understanding of self and dreams.

There are, however, archetypes, and what I would call symbols of the Genetic Mind (symbols common to a specific race, nation, species, group, or subspecies of whatever kind -- yes, probably even FIGU close knit members). These also have to be taken into consideration and can in addition coincide -- or contrast -- with a personal symbol that has a different meaning for any given individual.

My brother and I had an interesting example of this: On holiday in Australia I had been taking care of my sick mother after she suddenly fell ill, which was a very trying experience that actually quite adversely affected my own health at the time. It made the vacation a very difficult one in which my own health was touch and go in a somewhat serious manner. The vacation coming to a close, I had a vivid dream of a snake biting my brother on the ankle. I realized this meant he was going to be saddled with the job now of caring for my mother once I had left and it was going to interfere a lot with his life and he would not be able to just go around freely doing what he had been doing beforehand. I talked about this to him and he said, "No. A snake is a sexual symbol. Obviously some sexual thing is going to present itself to me." Well, he's quite right a snake is a common sexual symbol. Who was right? What happened?

He did get saddled with the responsibility of looking after our mother and it was a really trying experience for him too for some time. It demanded nearly all his time, and he was having a hard time of it. It, of course, adversely effected his working hours. I am not aware of him having any sexual matter arise in the near future of the dream, though one did arise about two or three years down the road.

The snake represented for me at the time a dangerous thing that just came out unexpectedly and hampered my life for a while. Metaphorically the vacation and my unexpectedly and suddenly feeling rather seriously ill was like being bitten by a snake. I didn't dream all of that; the snake just summed it all up into a nice potent yet economically packaged image.

The point is: Whose dream was it? It was mine not my brother's so the meaning would be what the imagery suggested for me -- the dreamer -- not my brother. It was my mind that created the image not his. If the archetypal, collective, Genetic Mind image is stronger than the personal image, however, it might take precedence over the personal for it would have created the image. My dream was very local and personal with no historical or group message so my meaning took precedence.

But, was the dream imagery also a premonition of what would occur two or three years down the road for my brother? It's possible, but that's a lot more difficult to answer definitively. Premonition dreams can be far in the future, especially if they are related to immense events affecting the general populace, species, group, world, or whatever subgroup within the Genetic Mind (obviously my brother's was not a grand event outside his own personal circle).

This also brings up the possibility of Shawn's experience also being, in addition to what it obviously was for him, a premonition, should the event also actually occur sometime.

There is no reason IMO why a dream cannot represent both. In fact it is IMO very likely this sometimes occurs. Images say a thousand things, and the inner imagery of the psyche IMO can be of magnificent economy, and if it can say two or more things at once why not say it? I'm convinced at times it can, and does, though it should not just be assumed that any particular image or dream is so expressing itself.

Best,
cpl
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Vestri
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Posted on Saturday, October 06, 2007 - 04:02 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I thought we should be taking notice of our reoccurring dreams and not so much one of dreams.

I don't have any reoccurring dreams, well none that I remember. But I do keep having all sorts of (human body) flying dreams like many other people do. Thats what most of my dreams are always entwined with. I have no idea what that means.
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Kingman
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Posted on Sunday, October 07, 2007 - 12:21 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dreams are for the individual experience, even when it tells of a global event. The images are designed for the viewer, custom ordered by the conscious from the sub-conscious, unconsciously. My experience is only meant for me, yet the common symbols used tell of the universal continuity we are part of. All beings will have had an experience with a Sun-type source jut because it's required to have a Sun present to exist. The symbol would most likely be the same through out the universe, right?

Once again just my opinion so please take it at that level.
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Shawn
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Sirashwin
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Posted on Sunday, October 07, 2007 - 06:03 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

But for me most of the times when i have a dream, the following day when i wake up i know i certainly had a dream but later on i can't recall the details.

ashwin

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