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Leann
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Post Number: 10
Registered: 08-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 05:00 am: | 
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Hello Dyson,
I disagree with you on this one. QQ47 is also called Red Planet, check out this link.
http://www.hercolubus.net/english/home_e.htm
Also, Wikipedia has the impact odds of 1/250,000.
Peace,
Leann |
Rarena
Member
Post Number: 173
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Monday, January 29, 2007 - 08:03 am: |
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Dear Cpl, and Leann,
The Antigravity Papers, They all told the Truth mentions a meteor that is red. Richard Crandell the author thought it was to hit us in 2004 but apparently there was a change in the orbit.
The Plejaren claimed they offset the dystroyer (a large asteriod )to miss us... now, but that... is a prediction rather than a prophecy... It is destined to happen, yet the unity on this planet is not great enough (at this time) to group together and deflect this thing collectivly or move out of the way...
We had Plejaren help this time... next time we will have to do it ourselves (the Plejaren mentioned they may be of some help) and/or we will have to relocate. Unity may be the key. Although the Giza folks were deported, and that is definitely not unity, rather strategy.
Comets and asteroids from the past caused over three hundred days of darkness and ice age conditions... but some life still existed.
One object hit in Iowa, followed months later by another one in the area of what is the Yucatan Peninsula.
That of course was not the case with the one 60 or 70 Million years ago when many of the Dinosaurs breathed their last (warm?) breath into the instantly cold air. It was much more devastating yet some lifeforms continued to live, those more precisely evolved in resonance with the newly created climatic conditions.
The Plejaren have guided Billy in a way not drawing undue attention to themselves;
We are non physical as well as physical beings. Hypothetically, if our planet were vaporised, say... we would reincarnate to the next available planet which BTW may be better suited to us. This may of course not be conducive to our rapid spiritual consciousness.
This planet was chosen by the people fleeing to get away from negative forces in the Universe ("Warring Power Hungry Monsters", as Billy refers)and this planet is not exactly, specifically, suited to our lifeform. It has less oxygen than we optimally need.
Christopher Dunns' book comes to mind.
Aaha! |
Rarena
Member
Post Number: 174
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Monday, January 29, 2007 - 03:35 pm: |
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Dear Cpl and Leann,
Have more today for you regarding asteroids and comets.
Note to Scott Baxter/Moderator; if this seems too long or not appropriate for this group please let me know and will send via email or cancel all together rather than to disobey the rules of this discussion forum. Will leave it to your discretion.
Notable Destroyer collisions or close calls with accompanying Semjase Contact Blocks.:
10371 (BC), 8650 BC, 7588 BC, 6906 BC, 5490 BC, 4915 BC, 3469 BC that would make: 1721 years, 1062 yrs, 682 yrs, 1416 yrs, 575 yrs, 1446 yrs and then near our time the the period has changed to 158 years per periodic revolution. Plejaren intervention caused the period to be 3175 years rather than 158 years and is due to return in the year 3175.
May 17 1978 Bafath deported to NEBER system (SB 1341) May be a pertinent fact... will explain myu reasoning later.
Sept. 2004 The comet Toutatis entered domain of Earth [ELiU 183]
2125 - 2128 Comet Swift-Tuttle on collision course with Earth [ELiU 180]
3175 Return of the Destroyer planet. Orbit was prolonged in 1995 to 3175 years per cycle. (SB 2221 orig.)
Many notable deluges brought about by the Destroyer:
Note: all dates are not reset for four year plus or minus(error)in our current calendar being used in the US. The birthdate of Jmmanuel being Feb (04)rather than Dec (0). When exact corrected difference is decided. Dates adjusted by 14 years 1993 from 2007.
Circa 10,388 years ago 8381 BC - (U.s.fl.doch p. 289,290): Venus re-vectored from Uranus gravitational field.
Circa 10,158 years ago 8,151 BC - Venus disturbs Earth in flyby/orbital fluctuations causing Earth catastrophes. (AbAbs\DR)
Circa 10,386 years ago (as of 2007) 8379 BC: Venus magnetically re-vectored from the Uranus gravitational field by the Destroyer. A fragment was detached and hit what is now the Atlantic ocean 100 years after the Destroyer's closest approach. (AbAbs/ DR)
8,664 years ago 6657 BC Great Biblical deluge. Destroyer planet disturbed Earth's orbit and rotation. (AbAbs\DR 1993)
Circa 8,039 years ago 6032 BC Venus disturbed Earth's orbit again. Worldwide upheaval. (AbAbs\DR 1993)
7988 years ago 5981 BC: Another deluge, brought about by the Destroyer. [SB 898]
7602 years ago 5595 BC: Minor deluge. Destroyer perturbed orbit and rotation of Earth. Catastrophes. Sun obscured for 28 days by a belt of dust particles. [AbAbs\DR 1993]
5504 years ago 3497 BC: Destroyer passed Earth again on near-collision course. In dust tail for several weeks. Massive cataclysms. Santorin volcano exploded. 2000m (6400 ft)Tsunami rolled far into Egypt and rebounded into Syria (time of Moses, seven plagues) [AbAbs\DR 1993]
5442 years ago 3435 BC: Close encounter of Venus with Earth. [U.s.fl.doch p.291)
Circa 4929 years ago 2922 BC: Renewed disturbance of Earth by Destroyer. Minor catastrophes. Earths' rotational rate slowed causing longer days. Year became "shorter" due to slowing of Earth's rotation. [AbAbs\DR 1993]
Circa 4839 years ago 2832 BC: Part of an asteroid crashes onto Earth, leaving a great crater in Western US [Note: Meteor Crater in Arizona is believed to be 25,000 years old - D.R.] [AbAbs\DR 1993]
3485 years ago 1478 BC; 3453 years ago (as of 1975/76 - SB232 and 898): Planet VENUS (total age 2.04 billion years; age of crust 976 million years) re-vectored from it orbit around Uranus by the Destroyer. (SB 2030) The Destroyer passed dangerously close to Earth, perturbing its orbit and equilibrium. Within a period of 158 years, the Destroyer returned reapeatedly and peturbed the Earth, even reversing its rotation, associated with apocalyptic catastrophes. The cardinal points and directions changed, as well as the orbital period, so that the year was reduced to 284 days. Worldwide firestorms, earthquakes, floods and volcanic eruptions ensued and left their marks on the Earth. Continents and islands sank into the seas, while elsewhere other land masses and islands were pushed up. {WZ 49; SB 2030) Triggering of the Santorin catastrophe. (SB 898)
1991 years ago [as of 1987?]:
Birth of Jmmanuel [historical records put his actual birth year at 4 BC) (Time period between the first birth of Henok on Earth and the birth of Jmmanuel was 9,308 years]
The Destroyer on a collision course with Jupiter. Beginning of the giant storm on Jupiter (Red Spot) and the (comet-like)tail of the Destroyer. Also at that time, the Destroyer tore a small moon away from Jupiter and sent it on an undetermined trajectory into space. |
Leann
Member
Post Number: 11
Registered: 08-2006
| | Posted on Monday, January 29, 2007 - 05:13 pm: |
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Thank you Rarena, we need more posts like that for us newbies. |
Edward
Member
Post Number: 729
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 30, 2007 - 05:00 am: |
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Hi Rarena....
Very interesting detailed information you posted.
You know, I was thinking of what the Plejarans once mentioned concerning,
eliminating an asteroid...that may come to close to Earth and in a 'Collision
course'.
We human beings of Earth, do...have to dispose of such life threatening
body...in the correct and safe manner. The best would be to 'disintegrate' the
body, and not to project it into another direction, away...out of our system.
The Plejarans did mention once, that they(kin, or others), once...'redirected'
a similar body away from their liveable planets and out of their system, but
the Effect, by this Cause, had great devastation on another system, or
something: destroying the planets in that system and it's civilizations.
Thus, the above mentioned scenario...is something we humans should heed to. And not think to simply of.
So, the Plejarans have learned from this tragedy, and we should make sure, we
do not make that same mistake.
Edward. |
Rarena
Member
Post Number: 175
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 30, 2007 - 02:50 pm: |
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Construction is difficult, especially in stone. The stone pyramids are so complex it seems illogical that they would just be used for glorified coffins...
Do you think the Pyramids at Giza were power devices used to eliminate these constant catastrophic threats from space?
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Hector
Member
Post Number: 198
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, February 24, 2007 - 05:01 am: |
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Will "Apophis" asteroid be the announced PREDICTION of the red meteor?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9871982
Be calm everybody, this one is certainly NOT going to be the red meteor. |
Edward
Member
Post Number: 737
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, February 25, 2007 - 01:23 am: |
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Hi All....
Well, I read this week that the UN want to enquire a serious binding scenario
measures for the up coming '2004 MN4 Apophis' due April 13 2029. Wanting all
global countries to participate.
It seems, that there MUST be a way to destroy the mentioned before it can come within the Moon's trajectory!?
So, the UN....is truly taking this matter very very seriously! Which is of
course....very very Positive, not!?
Edward. |
Gaiaguysnet
Member
Post Number: 516
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, February 25, 2007 - 03:42 pm: |
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G'day, Edward, mein Freund!
Here's what Dr Carol Rosin had to say about the threats from outer space:
"I founded the Institute for Security and Cooperation in Outer Space, a Washington DC based think tank. I am an author and have testified before Congress and the President’s Commission on Space.
When I was a Corporate Manager of Fairchild Industries from 1974 through 1977, I met the late Dr. Wernher Von Braun. We first met in early 1974. At that time, Von Braun was dying of cancer but he assured me that he would live a few more years to tell me about the game that was being played- that game being the effort to weaponize space, to control the Earth from space and space itself. Von Braun had a history of working with weapons systems. He escaped from Germany to come to this country and became a Vice President of Fairchild Industries when I had met him. Von Braun’s purpose during the last years of his life, his dying years, was to educate the public and decision-makers about why space-based weapons are dumb, dangerous, destabilizing, too costly, unnecessary, unworkable, and an undesirable idea, and about the alternatives that are available.
Then terrorists would be identified, and that was soon to follow. We heard a lot about terrorism. Then we were going to identify third-world country “crazies.” We now call them Nations of Concern. But he said that would be the third enemy against whom we would build space-based weapons.
The next enemy was asteroids. Now, at this point he kind of chuckled the first time he said it. Asteroids- against asteroids we are going to build space-based weapons.
And the funniest one of all was what he called aliens, extraterrestrials. That would be the final scare. And over and over and over during the four years that I knew him and was giving speeches for him, he would bring up that last card. “And remember Carol, the last card is the alien card. We are going to have to build space-based weapons against aliens and all of it is a lie.” ( www.gaiaguys.net/DPBDRosin.htm , from www.gaiaguys.net/DPBriefingDocument.zip )
She had some interesting things to say about Gulf Wars I & II also in that testimony, which were planned in the 1970's.
Of course I accept that these chuncks of rock are indeed a long-range threat, but not as much as the Strategic Defense Initialtive (a.k.a. "Star Wars")
Please see also:
www.gaiaguys.net/starwars8.5.01cbs.htm, www.gaiaguys.net/starwars28.7.01smh.htm, www.gaiaguys.net/starwars9.6.03smh.htm, www.gaiaguys.net/starwars22.12.03smh.htm, www.gaiaguys.net/star.wars.abc.30.3.04.htm
& www.gaiaguys.net/greer_warning_of_hoax.htm
The man in the cartoon is Australia's Prime Minister, John Winston Howard (www.gaiaguys.net/howlink.htm)
Cheers!
Dyson
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Edward
Member
Post Number: 738
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Monday, February 26, 2007 - 01:49 am: |
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Hi Dyson...
Speaking of 'Star Wars'.....
Yes, taking the 'Star Wars' utilities out of the closet...is quite the
appropriate steps to take, to eliminate any incoming Outer Space object.
The mentioned is of course, a scenario which was always kept: First Hand.
Thus, that speaks for itself: which would be the solution.
Edward. |
Gaiaguysnet
Member
Post Number: 519
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Monday, February 26, 2007 - 11:45 am: |
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Dear Edward,
I have not made my point.
The SDI is not for incoming asteroids. It is for global military domination by the USA. Blowing up asteroids would make them MORE dangerous, because they would be in several pieces. The latest idea is to send a spacecraft up to stay NEXT to the incoming asteroid, in order for its tiny gravitational attraction to gently perturb the asteroid's trajectory over a long period of time, thus steering it away from Earth.
Asteroids are FAR less threatning that almost everything else I can think of right now. How about everybody choking on their own dung and killing the only planet we have to live on?
Salome,
Dyson |
Edward
Member
Post Number: 739
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 28, 2007 - 11:33 pm: |
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Hi Dyson....
Yes, I am aware that the SDI is not for incoming asteroids...
But it was always an options, once mentioned many years back.
And of course, it may generate a great amount of several pieces, when
terminated. So, I guess it all just depends on HOW...the process is executed.
I am familiar with the scenario.
And 'perturbing' the object: well, the Plejarans gave use a good example of
what that can to in the long run, when in trajectory, it may encounter life
elsewhere...and have (Negative) effect on them.
So, 'perturbing' the object, should be consider of:....very carefully! Thus,
such process can have truly devastating effect....and so we should not just
think of ourselves, and lightly, but also of what it can do...to another human
civilization(s)...in another system, if such a redirecting would take it's
course! Odds...it may not happen, but...odds...may dictate that such scenario
can...take place, as mentioned by the Plejarans.
But if we can still keep the astroid within our system...this would be a very
positive result! But, unlikely....man has so much 'control' over the
projectile!?
Of course, if we humans here on Earth had some sort of 'disintegrating'
weaponry, this would be the egg of Columbus, so to speak. Which will than leave less debris...and so forth.
Edward. |
Edward
Member
Post Number: 740
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Friday, March 02, 2007 - 11:23 pm: |
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Hi Dyson....
And BTW: Well, I would rather have small fragments entering our atmosphere and disintegrate as they enter....than one big astroid body!
Most of the fragments will burn-up when entering...positively, any ways...
Many small chunks are better than one big Rock!...
BTW: I once watched a series about Untruths: 'Movie Myths' or something it was called, and an astroid scenario was shown and analyzed, and they too came to conclusion, that if an asteroid of standard size would be destroyed
(if done correctly) it would generate many many millions and millions of small pieces of debris which would automatically 'Disintegrate/Dissolve'...when entering the Earth's atmosphere: those fragments that are attracted to the Earth's gravity-pull. And there would not really be large pieces...as shown in many movies, that would (still) destroy cities and so forth! So, this is Hollywood 'exaggeration'...as was said.
Deep Impact was the movie they analysed...if I am correct? And some other movie scenarios.
2004 MN4 having a Radius estimation of about 260-500m in size (even though some space observatorians estimate larger?)....could/may well fit the above
scenario, perhaps? And have perhaps less damaging effect on us...then we may
conclude/think?
So, I would agree with their analysis!
Thus, the small chunks would do a minimal of damage...than the intact rock
itself.
And we CAN...survive and live with that, not?
Edward. |
Gaiaguysnet
Member
Post Number: 526
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, March 03, 2007 - 03:31 pm: |
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Dear Edward,
The operative expression is, "if done correctly".
Why don't we just zap the things with the same disintegrator beam that turned the twin towers to dust? www.gaiaguys.net/wtc07.htm
Cheers!
Dyson |
Newinitiation
Member
Post Number: 438
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, March 04, 2007 - 08:28 pm: |
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Dear forum members
Speaking of meteors, have the scientists detected the red meteor yet?
seeing as this is a prediction I gather that it'll be too late before they do.
cheers
Matt |
Thomas
Member
Post Number: 173
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Monday, March 05, 2007 - 12:57 am: |
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Sorry to rebutt Matt but Quetzal clearly said that the Red Meteor COULD be diverted if man came to its senses and acted properly, thus it is NOT a prediction...
Thomas |
Hector
Member
Post Number: 207
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Monday, March 05, 2007 - 03:40 am: |
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Hi Matt, I can't be detected until it arrives here.
Quetzal:"It will swoop from the depths of the cosmos into the Sol System and then on to the Earth." (http://www.gaiaguys.net/andyettheyfly.htm)
It is not a meteor orbiting around this solar system. |
Jakes
Member
Post Number: 74
Registered: 10-2006
| | Posted on Monday, March 05, 2007 - 01:01 pm: |
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From a previous question to Billy on this topic.
Posted on Friday, April 02, 2004 - 03:42 pm:
Hello Billy,
In Contact 251 you raise the issue of the criminal neglect to monitor the Earth from outer space. What in particular do you see as the more serious, near-term threat: asteroids, comets or planetoids that will impact the Earth or extraterrestrials that will attack the Earth?
With best regards,
Ed
Answer
Asteroids etc. are a much greater threat than ETs (the latter threat is minimal). |
Newinitiation
Member
Post Number: 440
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Monday, March 05, 2007 - 04:58 pm: |
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Thanks for pointing that out thomas, hector and Jakes.
There is clearly a diverging views regarding this red meteor as it is called by the plejarens.
But that aside it's still pending as to where it could originate from although the position of where it's going to land has been given.
If we can get some idea as of the timeframe of it's event, we can do a rough calculation of it's trajectory.
What do you fellas think about that?
cheers
Matt |
Thomas
Member
Post Number: 174
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 07, 2007 - 12:00 am: |
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I have no ideas on that right now Matt...Sorry... Thomas |
Mike
Member
Post Number: 15
Registered: 01-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, March 08, 2007 - 06:15 am: |
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NASA lacks funds to find killer asteroids...
March 6th 2007 news update
http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/space/03/06/nasa.asteroids.ap/index.html
Regards
Mike |
Gaiaguysnet
Member
Post Number: 546
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, March 08, 2007 - 10:27 am: |
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Hi Mike,
According to Disclosure Project deep insider witness testimony, some years back, NASA was so embarrassingly awash with cash which was flowing in from the various criminal enterprises of their shadow-government supporters (CIA drug & arms money, etc.), that they deliberately organized the first Space-shuttle catastrophe in order to burn off some of the excess.
Knowing what we know now about the so-called “satanic” connections with NASA, I have no problem with accepting those testimonies as quite probably true.
Since half of their orbital surveillance satellites (meant to monitor ICBM launches) face deep space (to look for ET interlopers) I think they have a good idea of what’s coming in, and – no doubt – the technical wherewithal to destroy it … as long as it doesn’t defend itself and fight back. The Plejaren say that they (the P's) keep a close watch for (deliberate) intruders, so the astronomically slim chance of copping an asteroid hit is still greater than getting scary space invaders.
Salome,
Dyson |
Jakes
Member
Post Number: 82
Registered: 10-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, March 08, 2007 - 07:36 pm: |
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Hello Dyson,
Sorry to be contrarian, but I was always reading that NASA was a front organization, not the other way around. NASA gets the money legally appropriated/budgeted to them but doesn't do any flying or missions. They money they don't use is then funneled to the non-publicized black-op projects that can't be funded in public. Never heard of any so-called "satanic" connections with NASA either. What's that all about?
Peace and best regards. |
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