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Cpl
Member
Post Number: 337
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Friday, January 11, 2008 - 10:50 pm: | 
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Hi Mohammed
Thanks for your interesting posts. Do you see the chronon and time, then, as being somewhat similar to what Russel said with respect to reality i.e. it comes into existence and out of existence every 4 quadrillionth of a second (or thereabouts), meaning that observed movement and change is actually somewhat like as in a movie -- it's more a set of stills put together -- and our existential reality comes into existence as a set form for that 4 quadrillionth of a second and then goes out of existence, comes back again ever so slightly changed etc causing the observed three dimensional movement and changes we experience? Presumably all at the behest of Creation.
If anyone else knows if the Plejaren have covered this it would be interesting to hear about it.
regards,
Chris |
Phi_spiral
Member
Post Number: 195
Registered: 03-2007
| | Posted on Saturday, January 12, 2008 - 09:09 am: |
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Hello Mohammed,
Regarding your discussion about the expansion of the universe and its' anomalies or discrepancies, I have often wondered myself what effect, if any, there is in having a twin universe that is immediately adjacent to ours, as we do (DERN and DAL). In Contact 233, they are described as two contiguous, gently nudging universes. Rather or not this nudging has any energetic consequence, I guess would depend on the true nature of the barrier that lies between them. I am merely thinking out loud.
Regards
Bob |
Mizarcubed
New member
Post Number: 3
Registered: 01-2008
| | Posted on Monday, January 14, 2008 - 12:31 pm: |
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Hello all,
I'm curious about the Dal universe though I know that a pure form of silver comes from there.
Saalome |
Mehraein62
Member
Post Number: 7
Registered: 12-2007
| | Posted on Monday, January 14, 2008 - 07:57 pm: |
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Hello Bob , Mohammed and others, as we learnd from contacts , we maust think to and admit not to some but a lot of Universes that Dal and Dern only 2 of them.
Best Regards
Salome
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Edward
Member
Post Number: 1011
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 15, 2008 - 07:46 am: |
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Hi Mohammed....
I fully agree with you! And understand your point of view.
Well, I guess the Plejarans do give us our own - Self Determinations - to Seek
the Answers to all of Creation's Secrets. We do have to manifest in a
- Autodidact(self-taught) - manner.
Man can only Understand and Comprehend the Creational Laws, and all related,
through obtaining the True Knowledge of Creation ONLY....through his/her own
Self Seeking/Study of (the) Truth.
So, I guess, for the time being: it will not be a - Hand out -, so to speak.
One can only learn.....through Seeking, by Oneself, not?
BTW: I enjoy your detailed analysis!
Edward. |
Incredible
Member
Post Number: 127
Registered: 06-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 15, 2008 - 09:03 am: |
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Hey people.
The Dal Universe is superimpose in the same space where is this universe?
"we born to die and we die to born"
"Dont take the life seriously, after all you wont go out alive from her"
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Bass_boy
Member
Post Number: 10
Registered: 03-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 06, 2008 - 10:43 am: |
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Incredible, Semjase stated that Creation is like a sea of bubbles. There are universes above, beyond, within and next to. Much like if you imagine foam... |
Markc
Member
Post Number: 589
Registered: 06-2000
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 06, 2008 - 06:26 pm: |
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or a bunch of grapes , I have thought .
Mark Campbell
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Edward
Member
Post Number: 1050
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, February 10, 2008 - 07:52 am: |
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Hi Guys....
If I may pitch in!?
Like a desert. Sand grains all around it; within, above, next to..and so
forth; all descending down upon it...over and over from far away hills and
mountainsides...and so forth.
Edward. |
Mehraein62
Member
Post Number: 73
Registered: 12-2007
| | Posted on Sunday, February 17, 2008 - 11:59 pm: |
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Kaare,
comment posted on june 16 2007
thank you for all amazing explanation.
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Quetzal says:
125....about Asket and Nera , ...can not affect thire lives ..because no forces (human) of any type can penetrate through the universe barrier
- I think apart from this, some humans can by CRV take a look at to DAL universe and bring some news.
Best Regards
Salome
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Pledja
New member
Post Number: 2
Registered: 02-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 19, 2008 - 03:59 am: |
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Or maybe direct our thinking to figuring out how this universe barrer works. |
Markc
Member
Post Number: 602
Registered: 06-2000
| | Posted on Thursday, March 20, 2008 - 11:24 am: |
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Welcome to the forum , Pledja .
Herzlich Wilkommen .
Kind Regards , Mark
Mark Campbell
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Pledja
New member
Post Number: 4
Registered: 02-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, March 22, 2008 - 11:48 am: |
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Thanks for the welcome Markc!
Honored to be apart of the forum.
Pledja |
Mqhassan
Member
Post Number: 33
Registered: 06-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 08, 2008 - 04:19 am: |
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Forum Members,
I would like to comment on Scotts letter to the Forum , now assigned under Spritual terminology where there is no place to write from there.
As you see below in the Arahat Athersata Level and even Petal levels you have Guardians . This makes it look as we are returining to Abrahamian Religion Beliefs, and it sounds ridiculous to assume guardian spirits working at the door of Creation . By replacing Creation for GOD or Allah we enter into the realm of the three religions and their mixup of IHWH's of their times.
That would bring the argument forward that Gabriel is the WE FORM spirit form who had his role in Christianity and Islam , and not an IHWH !
When Creation is the law of the universe what role would a guardian spirit have anyway ? What makes things worse is their specialized roles, and giving for example Urijel watcher of seasons and weather !
Seasons and weather are characterisitics of planets revolving around their suns ! What does that contriubute to the overall Universe ?
Perhaps I should have writting this mail in the Skeptics Corner
Salome
Mohammed
Petale
These are the four Guardians of the highest power living at the doors of Creation
1. Mjkael
2. Rubael
3. Gabrjel
4. Fanuel
ARAHAT ATHERSATA
The Seven-We-Form of Arahat Athersata
1. Urjel-The Watcher of the energies of the seasons and weather.
2. Rufael-The Watcher over the Spirit-Forms of all living things. Human, Flora, Fauna and all other living things.
3. Raguel-The Watcher over every living thing that lives against the 7-fold order of Creation and the Laws.
4. Mjkel-The Watcher over every living thing that lives according to the 7-fold order of Creation and the Laws
5. Sarakel-The Watcher over the progress and the instructions of all Spirit forms, Humans and Fauna.
6. Gabrel-The Watcher over all boundaries of all the worlds from the lowest to the highest.
7. Kerubel-The Watcher over all remaining life forms that are presented by Man, Stars, Flora, Fauna and Energies.
Salome
Scott |
Mqhassan
Member
Post Number: 34
Registered: 06-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 08, 2008 - 07:38 am: |
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Dear Forum
To make things a bit clearer, we seem to find out that the Arahat Athersata level has SEVEN WE form spirit watchers, as shown in Scotts letter to the forum, that I have copied below my previous letter in order to make it easier for Forum members to look through it , rather than having to go to the Spiritual Terminology Section.
The higher Petale level has FOUR who are the mentioned as the highest power at the door of creation.
Note the similarity with the Christian concept of Guardian Angels. If we accept that Creation needs gatekeepers , then we are returning to the concept of Diety, where Creation should be given a name as the ultimate spirit of the universe, while having four highest power authrities helping it !
I think that runs in clear contradiction to the logical and scientific methodology for understanding the laws of the universe, and that such kind of methodology simply reflects a new revised dogma of religions.
Where would the semi material semi spiritual beings fit in such a hierarchy, below the SEVEN guardians ?
I think this whole concept has a clear flaw that needs to be opened for discussion
Salome
Mohammed |
Pledja
Member
Post Number: 23
Registered: 02-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 08, 2008 - 09:02 am: |
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Mqhassan
If the guardian statements are true, I Agree! |
Markc
Member
Post Number: 616
Registered: 06-2000
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 08, 2008 - 11:16 am: |
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Hi Mohammed ;
I think it is one of those things that can be classified as " it is as it is " . If it is uncomfortable that these things remind you of religion , there are many . Jmmanuel had been crucified , and so to speak , jesus had been crucified . Here we go again . What will we do ? It all looks like religion again . So you see , it is really needed to separate what is from what should have never been described ( then) , due to ignorance , misunderstanding and deification .
I will say that the whole matter could have been better planned , but who am I to say , really ? History is like a series of tornados printed in a book . It all looks neat , like a funnel on the page , but when it happens " hell comes walking ". Total confusion , with flying cows and tractors , which normally cannot fly .
Kind Regards , Mark
Mark Campbell
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Phi_spiral
Member
Post Number: 251
Registered: 03-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2008 - 03:07 pm: |
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Mohammed: “When Creation is the law of the universe what role would a guardian spirit have anyway?”
The role is simply this: it is a creational law that higher evolved beings are to assist lower evolved beings in their evolution. This was stated by Semjase in the contact notes.
Our Creation is in its’ first of seven cycles, this being material and the successive ones being spiritual. Although it is referred to as a material universe, it is actually a combination physical and spiritual, where a tiny portion of spirit energy animates a physical body temporarily for the purpose of learning before merging together with all the other spirit forms as one and completing this cycle. Do not interpret “guardian” too rigidly here. They are guardians in the sense that they are older and wiser and assist in the growth of younger forms.
The names given in your post above, i.e. Mjkael, Urjel, Rufael, Rubael, etc., etc. are not their real names. Their real names would be a pictorial graphic in the spiritual language of symbols and unpronounceable to us. The transmission of information from AA or Petale (e.g. for the book Dekalog) was received by Billy through writing on paper. When you are viewing those texts you can clearly see that the information was coming from different individual spirit forms because the handwriting wasn’t uniform through the whole text. Though for simplicity, these individual spirit forms are not identified. Names with the ‘el’ suffix used above, have a Vega/Lyran history which I will not get into here.
The true dynamics of how spirit beings interact with the physical world in its’ "watcher" roles may not be comprehensible to us at our present state of evolution. Contact 251 states that earth scientists will discover that the prevailing physics is not the last word in knowledge, but that there exists yet a higher level of physics which extends into fine-matter spheres. And Billy has stated that this will have to do with ultra-super sub-atomic particles, all of which already belong in the spiritual realm. (Questions to Billy Answered, November 24, 2007)
Regards |
The_original_dave
Member
Post Number: 214
Registered: 05-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2008 - 04:28 pm: |
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Hello Mohammed,
Don't worry. The term guardians when speaking about the Petale and AA level and 'the doors of creation' is only a figure of speech. For example, 'These are the four Guardians of the highest power living at the doors of Creation.' The ''doors'' of Creation means, the level (Petale) right before reuniting/reemerging with the Creation. As you can see, it has nothing to do with the Christian beleif, which states that there is actually a gate for entering both heaven and hell.
As for the 'Guardians,' there just different spirit levels within both the Petale and AA level. I suppose that 'Urjel-The Watcher of the energies of the seasons and weather.' Means that the spirit forms in there current level spiritual evolution are observing the enrgies/vibrations of the various life forms and observing the weather and stuff. This is probably so that they can further there knowledge and evolve further I guess. |
Mehraein62
Member
Post Number: 139
Registered: 12-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2008 - 08:12 pm: |
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Phi_spiral
Thank you , I enjoyed also
But i think the simple and much materialistic explanations in Scott comment made some confusion for Mohammad, there the responsibilities of 'Guardians, also has a very mondial structures
Salome
M45
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Phi_spiral
Member
Post Number: 265
Registered: 03-2007
| | Posted on Monday, April 21, 2008 - 09:14 pm: |
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Mohammed,
Do you have a copy of, The Silent Revolution of Truth? One of the separate bonus features on the DVD is a lecture by Christian Krukowski entitled, The Origin Of The Universe And Human Life According To The Plejaren.
The lecture, which includes poster graphics, follows the creation of our Dern universe from the Big Bang more than 46 trillion years ago, the creation of the seven belts, the origin of Earth starting with the first concentration of gases to the densification of gases (which is still going on with Jupiter), until Earth became a solid planet 5 billion years ago. It discusses the dates of the three main phases of the “coming into being” of the pure Earth Human, identification and dates of the five different ET immigration waves, the destructive impact of the Destroyer Comet coming through our star system, etc.
Or does the treatise that you are writing cover that ground and more?
Kind regards
Bob
“I have no great talents. I am only passionately curious.” - Albert Einstein |
Mqhassan
Member
Post Number: 49
Registered: 06-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 22, 2008 - 03:50 am: |
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Bob,
I have seen that. What I am trying to study is some relations which I did post on the forum, but recently modified and expanded while adding some references, to make the reading easier. It analyzes the Plejaran Model of Creation. I can send you a PDF file if you send me your email.
Christian's part in the S.R.T is basically an explanation for people who need to understand the basic concepts.
Salome
Mohammed |
Phi_spiral
Member
Post Number: 268
Registered: 03-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 22, 2008 - 11:15 am: |
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Sure, Mohammed, I would be glad to read what you have written, with the caveat that I myself have not read all the information that the Plejarens have provided about the creation of our Dern universe. So with the understanding that it is just a work in progress, I will send you my email address.
Regards
Bob |
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