| Author | Message | ||
    Michael HOrn |
Maybe this is the area in which I can pose the following question(s). Apart from Billy's encounter with an amphibian-type ET who was temporarily stranded, are there any so-called reptilian ET's? Are they, or have they ever been, here? Some folks have come up with what seems to me to be the wacky premise that there is an elite ruling class with reptilian genetics, or some such. Also, the American Indian researcher and author Robert Morningsky has some material on this as well. As far as Billy/FIGU are concerned, what's the truth about this scaly stuff? Moderator: Answer - According to Billy it is all nonsense. | ||
James Roy Mizar |
I think it came about because of the bible in that a "serpent" talked to adam and eve (isn't eve adams mother?) thus creating more of a backward link so scientists called the "primal" part of us "reptillian"????? Salome James | ||
Norm |
Michael, You mean David Icke. His theories about reptilian ET's is really off the wall! I don't doubt that somewhere out there, there may be reptilian ET's, but Ickes reptilian ET conspiracy, just doesn't seem to stack up. I think he's being tricked or led down the wrong conspiracy path, too discredit all UFO & Conspiracy researchers. I mean come on, why don't these reptilian ET's just land and take over, instead of playing these hiding behind world leader games! | ||
Scott Baxter |
Hello Has anyone heard of the story of an extraterrestrial named Gilgamesh? From my understanding he was part of the Old Sumerians, a group that also belonged to the old Lyrians. Supposedly he actually came to earth a long time before the old Sumerian days. His spacecraft crashed somewhere in the Himalayas roughly 20,000 years ago. His real lifespan is apparently approximately 100,000 years. He came from a planet that produces heavy water, and this heavy water is as vital to them as H20 is vital to us. We also live on water, but ours is not heavy, just regular water. Because he has not had this heavy water for thousands of years, his lifespan now is limited to 50,000 years instead of 100,000. He is supposedly still able to live for another 25,000 years. The last he was heard of he was at a plant that produces nuclear objects where heavy water was available. This plant was in the southern portion of the US. Originally he was a giant in height approximately 10.5 ft- 15 ft. Through his mastery of different sciences, he was able to make his body shrink, reducing his height by at least 50%, so he is now only 6’ 2”. With this new height he wouldn’t even stand out today because we have a lot of people who are about 6’ 5”- 6’ 7” tall. Salome Scott B. | ||
Michael Horn |
Dear Scott, Where on Earth did you get this from? Michael | ||
Mark Campbell |
Hi Scott ; This is quite amazing , about Gilgamesh.When I went to a FIGU lecture in 1998,I thought Guido Moosbrugger had said that his incarnations were that old.Of course , at the time, he was being translated live, and many other questions were being asked, so I didn't dig deeper. He was practically immortal , then.Did he work at this plant, or is he more discreet , and living in seclusion? Mark | ||
Scott Baxter |
Hello There is not a lot more I can say regarding my post pertaining to Gilgamesh. This information is known by some just as it became known to me, and now its known by anyone who reads about it from this post. I could say Billy said it, or I could say something else, but either way I’m just passing it on for what it is worth. It may sound far out to some, and at least a plausibility or possibility to others. What I have come to realize is that instead of denying the existence of something, rather at least listen or read what is being spoken or written and then give it some time to settle into the brain. You know when somebody says I’m crazy or how can that be, I now say well why not, why couldn’t it be true? A good example of this was the contrail issue which I posted some information about in the Earth section of the Forum. I have taken pictures of these, and pointed them out to others while they were actually being made, and yet some still deny what they are seeing!!! Many things while they may be hard to accept or understand, doesn’t mean they are not true. We do have to be discerning yes, but not denying if given the reasonable explanation of something. Speaking of proof of the existence of ET’s, has anyone checked the latest bulletin #29 on the German portion of the Websight? The article entitled “Eine besonde Sichtung” has photos of a sighting over the center on May 20,2000. The pilot of the ray-ship is Florena, and this was witnessed by a number of people who’s names are listed at the end of the article. Also in this same bulletin was another article entitled “Flugwetter” on July 6, 2000. This sighting was witnessed by Silvano Lehmann and Billy . The pilot of this Plejaren beam ship was a being by the name of Enjana, I’m not sure if it is a male or female, but an interesting name. Needless to say here is more proof and in this case visual proof again to support the statements made regarding the existence of the Plejarens. Salome Scott b. | ||
Jani Metso and Janette Poikajärvi |
Hello, I've wondered (if it's true that Gilgamesh is living here on Earth) that why the Plejarans have not "rescued" him as they did with the being named Asina from the planet in the star picture Swan (Cygnus), when his/her spacecraft was damaged on entry into our atmosphere. But of course, I've read that he/she was seeking assistance, so the case "Gilgamesh" could be little different. If, however, Gilgamesh is hiding here somewhere, he must be a first-rate, all-around historian - for someone living that old! I should maybe wonder this somewhere else in this forum, but: Can someone really live up to 100,000 years? I've thought that it's only possible for material human being to live a couple of thousand years, at most - even when living according the age provided by nature, ie. the highest possible lifespan someone can ever live in this material realm, in the material universe on the course of our current evolution (as a universe), when no alterations or manipulations is made. But isn't it so, that the Plejarans' average lifespan is "only" around one thousand years? This lifespan of 100,000 years you mentioned, Scott, catches my attention for being so far-reaching. Salome, Jani | ||
Ian Degrussa |
Hello Scott, If Gilgamesh is as old as you imply, he would be a very wise man I think. You yourself stated that he has mastered several sciences. After twenty thousand years don't you think he would have acquired a means of transport to a comfortable environment rather than have to scrounge around a nuclear plant as if subhuman? Regards, Ian Degrussa | ||
George Madeyski |
OK Ian, then tell me why did Billy named his doughter 'GILGAMESHA'? Interesting isn't it. George | ||
Norm |
George, "then tell me why did Billy named his daughter 'GILGAMESHA'? " What does that have to do with anything stated above? | ||
George Madeyski |
Norm, The old tradition has it that Head of the family would call his child after something important happened in his life. That name would be a brief description of that impression or significant event that occured. Example: in Old Testament names Jacob, Isaac, Israel, Moses, Jmmanuel they are all names or descriptions of a certain significant event or occurence. I hope this helps. George | ||
Ian Degrussa |
Hello George, I don't know why Billy named his daughter "Gilgamesha", and I certainly don't claim to know anything about the truth of "Gilgamesh". My comments were based on Scott's post, that's all. Ian | ||
Ian Degrussa |
I didn't mean any disrespect to Scott. I'm sorry if it seemed that way. Ian | ||
Scott Baxter |
Hello Ian, You made a good point in regards to why would Gilgamesh still be hanging around if he had the knowledge of certain Sciences, then he must possess the knowledge to somehow transport himself off of this planet at some point. For all any of us knows he may have left by now, this information has been around for sometime, I believe at least 20 years or more, that Im aware of. I had a feeling that talking about this subject would stir things up a bit, which it did. I have received a couple of e-mails regarding my original post. My intent was bring to forth ideas regarding the nature of the many lifeforms in the universe, and some of the possibilities that may exist out there in the cosmos. Personally I find these type of subjects interesting and fascinating to think about and discuss. I think their maybe people who read these posts regarding the variety of subjects that have been brought up and wonder if we are just a bunch of fringe people that have found other fringe people with like interests, but their is really no substance to any of the issues that are discussed. On the other hand I think many of us are breaking new ground in some of the ideas being presented and with time these ideas may gain a degree of acceptance, or at least given some consideration. Andrew made a good point in that in some countries even these type of discussion forums are banned. So I think for the time being we should all take advantage of this opportunity and bring up as many subjects regarding the existance of UFO life in the universe and the existance of the Creation. Thanks for listening Salome Scott B. | ||
Mark Campbell |
Ian , George , Crosby , Stills, etc; Being a member has some interesting perks as far as what we get to discover.Scott has posted some great and amazing items on that private discussion forum. I've come to look forward to anything he has to share with us, and if Gilgamesh just didn't feel like dying , and could prolong his life with the force of his will, then my parameters have just increased as far as knowing what is possible.Scott has quite a bit of experience with FIGU ,so you can trust that he is passing on information that he got from Mr. Meier and the core group. We're a lucky bunch . Thanks , Mark | ||
Phil McAiney |
Gilgamesh, the ancient god as well as the present human living in the U.S., was known about by Billy. As the young "Eduard", he even called himself "Gilgamesh" for a brief time in Quetta, West Pakistan in 1967 (now just called "Pakistan" and "East Pakistan" is now called "Bangladesh") when he was going through a time period of using aliases to protect his identity and work. A photo of him at this time is available in the latest FIGU Bulletin Nr. 29 (September 2000) on page 12. | ||
Norm |
"Gilgamesh, the ancient god as well as the present human living in the U.S." Phil, Are you saying this just a human with the name Gilgamesh, or is this guy a God/ET? Now I'm confused? | ||
Andrew C. Cossette |
Hi Norm, Please refer to Scott Baxter's (original) post above. This 'man', Gilgamesh, that Phil mentions, is one-in-the-same. Regards, Andrew | ||
Norm |
He's real on Earth! I'll tell you the truth, I didn't believe it. I was waiting for you{Andrew) to slam Scott. Does this Gilgamesh visit Billy? | ||
George Madeyski |
Hi all, I feel the next question should be - Is he of a benevolent nature toward us and if so is he aware of Nokodemion's mission here. With his vast general knowledge and genetic engineering skills(he reduced his height from 15' to 6') he could be a tremendous asset for human kind? Regards George | ||
Savio |
Hi Andrew With reference to your posting on January 29 :- "PS - FYI: Albert Einstein was a surreptitious, cloak-and-dagger Plejaran contactee...." Now we have one of the greatest scientists of the time - Stephen Hawking. His study suggests that there would be no creator God, our universe has no beginning but there is a boundary. Is there any information regarding Stephen Hawking that you can share with us? Regards Savio | ||
James Mizar |
Isn't the "big bang" a beggining, are not our dreams what help creation create universes? Boundries as I currently understand are traversable by technical means. I also think universes are like eggs *s* the outer "enamel" is the container(which I think is the petale level) the white being the spiritual part and the yolk as the space of course matter. I think humans are wonderful creative beings and I enjoy the path of learning! Salome James | ||
Savio |
Hi James We may consider that "Big Bang" is only one of the evolution stages of our universe, before that, there may be a few more stages (not sure yet), hence the big bang is not the very beginning. As according to FIGU, our universe co-exist with a pure spirit form(Creation), there may be a beginning of Time, but our universe(whatever evolution stage) exist as long as Creation exists. Hence, can we say that there is no beginning? Unless we can prove that there is a beginning for Creation. Boundary may be understood as - this is a limited universe. In fact FIGU pointed out the dimension of our universe hence there is a limit. It looks that the theory of Stephen Hawking comes quite close to that of FIGU. Would it be possible that he is another Plejaran contactee other than Albert Einstein? Andrew, how about that? Regards Savio | ||
Andrew C. Cossette |
Hello Savio, No, Mr. Hawking is not a contactee. He is, however, a genius and highly evolved. In many of his writings he is not far from the truth according to Billy and his Plejaran friends. Kind regards, Andrew | ||
Savio |
Hi Andrew Thanks for the information. It is nice to learn that we human can also be highly evolved without the influence of ETs. However, it looks there is something in common within those highly evolved people - they have physical problems. E.g. Mr. Meier has only one arm functioning, Mr. Hawking has to stick to his wheel-chair all the time (his physical situation may be same or worse than that of Norm). Price for highly evolved? Regards Savio | ||
Anthea |
Hi Savio I disagree :) Highly evolved does not necessarily equal physical disability - consider our highly evolved Plejaren friends. I would say that a physical disability can make an individual stronger spiritually (evolved) in more ways than the individual that has no physical disability because it is a tough experience to have to cope with and learn from. Kind Regards, Anthea | ||
Savio |
Hi Anthea I look the same way as you do ^-^ Perhaps I rearrange my wording - Highly evolved does not come easy, we've to work hard and pay for our progress. Regards Savio | ||
Scott Baxter |
Hello Savio/Anthea I have wondered about this very subject also many times. I think it also really depends on the individual how he handles his/her disability. One person may look at it as a burden to cope with and feel damned for the rest of their earthly existance, or feel that they are paying on some sort of cosmic debt that they incurred somehow. While another person may look at it as a challenge to overcome and with each day they may look at it as a gift just too make it through another day. If our society had the means to help people with physical disabilities I wonder if those people who had these disabilities would readily accept the medical help or just say they would rather live with the physical problems? What is also interesting it depends on your perspective. Im sure their are people who may suffer from emotional problems and difficulties or possible mental problems that may cause great torment and these people may look at someone with physical problems as lucky. Either way Im sure the Plejaren's at earlier stages of evolution had to work through tough times to get to where they are now.. Salome Scott B. | ||
Anthea |
Hi Savio/Scott Yes - it surely is hard work to make progress and where one forfeits one may gain two-fold second time round. I agree with Scott that it's all in the attitude and thinking of the person that will determine whether the individual grows or stagnates from his/her experiences. But ... we digress from the subject and this discussion is probably more suited in another topic area :) Kind Regards, Anthea | ||
Norm |
Scott, "If our society had the means to help people with physical disabilities I wonder if those people who had these disabilities would readily accept the medical help or just say they would rather live with the physical problems?" After 18 years with paralysis caused from a broken neck(hit & run by car) at age 16, and stuck in a wheelchair, unable to use my legs & fingers. I would take the cure! Hopefully Christopher Reeve will raise enought money to cure us. I also want to state my largest single one donation to a cause or charity, has been for the FIGU Contact Notes Translation Project. If thats any consolation. | ||
Savio |
Hi Norm What we can learn from the contact notes is Knowledge, and knowledge alone does not mean progress. Isn't it true that our future depend on our attitude? I surely hope that we can support each other in facing difficulties.... we shall overcome and make progress for sure.... Professor Stephen Hawking is a good example. Regards Savio | ||
Andrew C. Cossette |
Hello, Topic=ET Intervention On Earth. Thanks, Andrew | ||
George Madeyski |
Hi Andrew I'm still looking for the place where I read about this oath. I meant not Billy but his spirit form. I want to say Great Job guys on those '49 questions'. Lets keep them comming. Now I have another question. On page 9 of '49 questions' answer '2'. Semjase is saying : '...You should be aware of them because they often attack and destroy everything that gets in their way. Many times they have even destroyed whole planets...' Who is she talking about? How powerful are 'THEY'? Are Plejarians able to prepare us to fight off their attack? I don't know about you guys but this seems kind of important to me to say the least??? Regards George | ||
Louis Mukiraine |
Hi FIGU FORUM members, Has anyone heard of the non-human ETs from the planet larga, supposedly some 10 light years away from the SOL system and do they exist? They are supposed to also have been closely monitoring human developement on Earth for some time. I heard of them from an ET contact account supported by Wendell Stevens. Regards, Louis | ||
Scott Baxter |
Hi Louis Yes I know about the Iargans, through the book supplied by Mr. Stevens. Its hard to know if this is book or the existance of the Iargans is real or not. It seems to me if I remember the book had religious connotations towards the end of it which would put it in the area of fabrication, because no-where else in the universe is the idea of religion practiced except on planet earth from my understanding. Mr Stevens put out a number of books, from the Plejarens, Iargans, and others. One book that I remember was a man who stated he was taken to the Planet ACART and visited their for 3 days. I dont know if this is true or not, but one thing that is interesting is in the Contact Notes when Billy took his 5 day space trip he was informed about a planet by the name of AKART. Could this be the same planet? Salome Scott B. | ||
Norm |
I found this article on David Icke from one of his former friends, that seem to prove his theory on Reptilian Aliens is based on bad evidence. http://www.vegan.swinternet.co.uk/articles/conspiracies/arizona.html | ||
Norm |
Why were the ancient ET's obsessed with the Hebrews & Israel? It seems they were always making contact with them over the centuries, more so than any other earth human group. | ||
Norm |
If anyone wants to read a good book on a Plejaren approved(real) UFO Contactee case. I suggest you read The White Sands Incident by UFO Contactee Daniel W. Fry, I just read it, and a lot of the information parallels Billy Meier's. | ||
Norm |
Has Billy ever written or asked the Plejarens about the Urantia Book? If anyone else has read it, whats your opinion of it? | ||
Norm |
More: According to The Urantia Book Fellowship (UBF), The Urantia Book is an anthology of 196 'papers' indited between 1928 and 1935 by superhuman personalities.... The humans into whose hands the papers were delivered are now deceased. The means by which the papers were materialized was unique and is unknown to any living person. | ||
Brock Bradford |
Hello Norm, The rumor that I had heard about the Urantia book is that it was an experiment by one of the secret government groups to see how gullible people are and to observe the effects of the cult created around it. Brock | ||
Andrew C. Cossette |
Hi Norm, Yes, Brock might very well be correct. The Book of Urantia (of which I am familiar with) is indeed a fraud. Regards, Andrew C. Cossette | ||
Michael Horn |
Hi Andrew, I recall the Urantia book being a rather remarkable detailed and complex work with heavy religious overtones. It may be accurate to say it is a fraud based on our understanding of the Creation as opposed to all the stuff floating around in the book but do you have any other specific insights about it? I find it hard to beleive that that level of work would be the result of a government/intelligence effort, more like religious fanatics, etc. It's very detailed, I'll give 'em that. Michael | ||
Norm |
Moderator: Post shortened. Text available through web links is redundant and unnecessary. I Got this info from here, but you know how these Skeptic groups are they don't believe in anything. http://skepdic.com/urantia.html |
