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    Edward Member Post Number: 1118 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi Mike.... Could be the individual, am not sure; has been a long time...since I watched his interview on the television, and some subjects he wrote in books...which I also came across. There are records mentioned of Billy's encounters - officially - as far as I know. The Beamships that have made contact with Billy throughout the years have , been registered, as far as I know...by Radar and other means. I am not that good with numbers, but...it did mentioned something like - 450 a 500 - recorded/registered UFOs/beamships and other types. Thus, the Swiss authority and the like....are Truly Up-to-date....with the events that take place. This information came from a military service personal. [I have the details, somewhere] And thus: Billy...in the eyes of the intelligence IS an Authentic Contactee! But of course, we will not hear this statement 'officially or directly' from the Horses Mouth, alas. Edward. | ||
Kaare Member Post Number: 61 Registered: 03-2003 |
Hi Mike and Edward, Information from military sources is hard to get direct. No doubts they have their own file that confirm the beam ships over Hinterschmidtruti, but these are classified. So military people would not dare confirming it openly. So information from that hold would come secondhand and off the records. We know that CIA have been monitoring the case from the beginning. Ref Stevens being taken inn to CIA area boss in London for questioning and being asked to try infiltrate Billy’s group. Then there is the UFO researcher Erwin Mürner from Zurich who was at a UFO convention in Zurich when he met a man from the Army’s Special Services at the Swiss air force. He told Murner that the UFO photos, in which Semjase’s beam ship encountered the Mirage Jet, were authentic and furthermore that the Swiss military knew that everything was true about the Billy Meier case but that people aren't allowed to know about it. Murner got to read a dossier that this man handed him from his briefcase. And in it was the name of the Mirage pilot whom Murner was able to contact and who confirmed to him that the encounter between his plane and the beam ship took place. Another Swiss ufologist Luc Bürgin and the MUFON-CES research group received recorded data from an official of the Swiss Military Airspace Safety Monitoring Unit pertaining to radar sightings of unknown flying objects in the Swiss air space. According to their information, 236 UFO radar sightings took place in the airspace above the land of the Swiss confederates between the 25-month period from April 1, 1993 to April 31, 1995. Particularly noteworthy were the clusters of UFO radar positions above the Zurich highlands—precisely in the area where Billy Meier has his contacts. Ref http://www.tjresearch.info/witness.htm The Swiss military has a strategically excellent observation post in the hillside above the center. Not only is this site good for radar sightings but visual sightings as well. I am thinking here that if a local man in 2001, by just sitting patiently, in the hillside over the Center, over several nights with his camera ready, was able to snap a series of sharp photos of Ptaah’s beam ship (the so called Pirgler photos) - Then the Swiss military would be in an even better position to record photos, since from their site they can monitor the air space over Billy’s house 24 hours a day 365 days of the year. . Wherefore I think they have similar or sharper photos of Plejaran beam ships that we never will see as they would make them classified. Regards Kaare | ||
Edward Member Post Number: 1120 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi Kaare.... Yes, the information what you posted is familiar to me. That would be it. Only think is, that I once read it from Michael Hesemann's site. Which I think, is not online anymore? I see the number was 236, instead of the 450-500(estimated too high). I though the count would be at least, more over 300-400, in a number of the years time line. So, I do not know if Hesemann's count, was that accurate? If it was in that direction. But, positive for you to have refreshed my memory, though....Thank you... Edward. | ||
Edward Member Post Number: 1121 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi Kaare and Mike..... BTW: I guess, I was referring more to an Unofficial...Official... Acknowledgement, concerning...by the individual..., bringing the aspects mentioned, into light. Edward. | ||
Jamesm Member Post Number: 72 Registered: 02-2006 |
Hello all, This is ET-intervention-related: According to http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/meier/gaiaguys/ET.to.USA.1979.htm the Plejaren/Plejadians offered the United States government advice on what appears to be anything except for technical, war technical and war strategical advice. But there were several conditions of that offer. I learned from one of Michael Horn's Internation UFO Conference presentations that this offer was turned down by the USA. Does anyone know why Billy/FIGU/The Plejaren permitted significant errors in the English grammar and spelling of a great deal of that proclamation to be left uncorrected? If this is the case. Does anyone also know of any information on how it was presented to the US gov and the exact response (if any)? Is there any other information regarding this proclamation that anyone here is aware of? I would be interested to know as I'm sure everyone else would be. I've read http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/863/6919.html#POST25651 and http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/14/6821.html#POST15527 The 2nd link contains a forum post by David Chance who states that 117 and 119 were the contact reports covering this proclamation. Perhaps someone would kindly translate the relevant passages from those contact reports, please? Many Thanks James G. T. Moore Webmaster www.futureofmankind.co.uk | ||
Redbeard Member Post Number: 10 Registered: 04-2006 |
A recent discussion with a friend triggered a memory I had from back in the early 80's of a golden egg shaped object that I and several others observed hovering motionless over my sister's house . It was sunny and clear in the mid day and I would say that I watched for 10 minutes with no movement. I'm guessing a height of about 200-300 ft. up. Judging the actual size to be about 20 to 30 ft. across. Any thoughts on this, I do recall some of my reading mentioning certain ET's having egg shaped craft. My sister did'nt see it but got all excited when I told her. Some time after that she got involved with some people giving talks about evacuating the chosen remnants of the 144,000. She's still waiting for that to happen! Not long ago I read about the Giza folks wanting to lure people into some craft in order to capture them for who knows what sorted reasons and I also have been wondering if these others where related to each other. I'm glad to see the emphasis on the spiritual teaching and off of the Space ships but I just wanted to share what I saw in an effort to sort it out. | ||
Phi_spiral Member Post Number: 308 Registered: 03-2007 |
Redbeard: “Some time after that she got involved with some people giving talks about evacuating the chosen remnants of the 144,000. She's still waiting for that to happen! Not long ago I read about the Giza folks wanting to lure people into some craft in order to capture them for who knows what sorted reasons and I also have been wondering if these others where related to each other." The only group like that, I am aware of, is the Waldport UFO group. In one of the contact notes, Billy is told that the Bafath were mentally controlling two people who were forming a UFO cult in Waldport, USA. You can verify this with a little research, but just a few days after the contact that Billy was told this, Marshall H. Applewhite and Bonnie Lu Trusdale held a meeting in Waldport, Oregon, on September 14, 1975, to recruit followers. Calling themselves, "The Two," they held beliefs that they were reincarnated aliens and combined Christian as well as some Theosophical doctrines into the mix. Others followed, and The Two received quite a bit of attention by going to Grand Junction, Colorado, for a gathering of more than 400 people to await the arrival of a UFO that would take them away. When that didn’t happen, most left the group after a few months. But over twenty years later, thirty-nine members of Heaven's Gate, led by Applewhite, committed suicide at the cult's mansion in Rancho Santa Fe, California. Applewhite became convinced that Nettles, who had died of cancer in 1985, was piloting a spaceship in the tail of the Hale-Bopp comet to take them to the Next Level. However, they could not go in their human form, so they committed suicide to shed their "physical containers". Regards Bob | ||
Phi_spiral Member Post Number: 309 Registered: 03-2007 |
To clarify my previous post, Billy was told in Contact 35 about the Waldport cult meeting on September 16, 1975, two days after Applewhite and Trusdale held their meeting there on September 14, 1975. Bob | ||
Redbeard Member Post Number: 11 Registered: 04-2006 |
The timing of 1975 has got to be close to the time period that she was talking to this couple that was holding meetings about this. If memory serves my sister said they ( a husband and wife team) were very unusual looking with light almost white hair and light blue eyes and because of looming catastrophic world events they were going to save the chosen.. Later the word was that events in Russia changed and the world was safe for now so the mass exodus was unnecessary. So many people want so badly for their lives to be different and the world to better than it is that a beam me up Scotty sounds soooo good and they get sucked into some weird things. I'd have to say that if I were as advanced as the P's I'd have second thoughts about getting involved in our mess too. Somewhere I read about that the P's were keeping many traveling ET'S away from us, much for our protection and perhaps other reasons. If the P's pull out and leave as they say will happen when Billy is no longer here are they still policing the area or not. It sounded like they were pulling out and would no longer have anything to do with us untill far into the future when we are capable of the time shift to their space and time. | ||
Phi_spiral Member Post Number: 310 Registered: 03-2007 |
There are definitely striking similarities. Semjase had this to say about the Waldport pair in Contact 35,(unofficial, non-FIGU translation by myself): 7. Seit geraumer Zeit steht insbesondere ein Erdenmenschenpaar unter dem bösen Einfluss der Gizeh-Intelligenzen, um in ihrem bösen Sinne verbrecherische und entwürdigende Dinge in die Wege zu leiten. For a fairly long time, an earth person pair in particular stands under the bad influence of the Gizeh Intelligenzen to guide them criminally and to initiate debasing things. 8. Der Sinn dieser Machenschaften geht dahin, dass Erdenmenschen in grösseren Massen irregeleitet werden sollen mit der lügnerischen Belehrung, dass die Erde in rund einem Jahrzehnt nicht mehr be¬wohnbar sei. The sense of these machinations indicates, that the earth-human being should be misled in larger masses with the lying instruction that the Earth, in approximately one decade, will cease to be habitable. 9. Laut dieser Lügenbehauptung würden die Erdenmenschen daher massenweise sterben und alles werde dem Tode anheimfallen. According to this lie-claim, the earth-human being therefore would die in large numbers, and everything will fall prey to the death. 10. Es sei jedoch nicht gegeben, dass alle Erdenmenschen sterben müssten, weshalb eine Rettung durch Ausserirdische vorgesehen sei. Nevertheless, it would not be that all earth people would have to die, which is why a rescue would be planned by extraterrestrials. 11. Willige Personen würden daher durch ausserirdische Intelligenzen durch ein Raumschiff abgeholt und auf eine andere, bessere und schönere Welt gebracht werden, wo sie ein freies und besseres Leben hätten. Willing people would therefore be picked up through extraterrestrial intelligence through a spaceship and on another, better and nicer world are brought, where they would have a free and better life. However, the real plans of the GI according to Semjase is explained in lines 20-24, that the weak would be sorted out and killed, those suitable would be used as slaves by the GI and others should establish a new sectarian organization working on the earth in religious form for the plans of the Gizeh-Intelligenzen. What I find fascinating is that the P’s asked Billy himself to intercede using his own consciousness powers to prevent it from turning into a big catastrophe, since the GI at that time had not crossed the line that allowed the Ps to expel them: 3. Du sollst dich ein weiteres Mal in irdische Geschehnisse einmischen und deine Kräfte walten lassen, denn es tun sich Dinge, die von ausschlaggebender Bedeutung sind in Hinsicht auf das Ansehen der Realität aller ausserirdischen Lebensformen. You should interfere another time with earthly events and should let your power prevail, because it accomplishes things that are of crucial importance, in a sense on the prestige of the reality of all alien life-forms. 29. Wir tragen dir nun auf, dich in deiner Form um die Dinge zu bemühen und zu versuchen, das Schlimmste abzuwenden. We now ask you to trouble yourself about the things in your form and to try to avert the worst. Billy: Mädchen, das ist aber ein Ding. Sollte den Kerlen das gelingen, dann würde das einen ganz ver¬dammten Tiefschlag für die ganze Ufologie bedeuten. Girl, however, this is a concern. Should the guys manage this, it would signify one completely damned deep blow for the whole Ufology. Semjase: 33. Bemühe dich jedoch sehr intensive, denn die Gefahr ist sehr gross. Take the trouble however intensive, because the danger is very big. 34. Nach Möglichkeit werden wir dir Hilfe leisten. If possible, we will lend help to you. 35. Das können wir aber nur in bestimmter Form, denn du weisst ja, dass wir keinen Zwang ausüben dürfen. However, we can this only in certain form, because you know, that we cannot practice any force. Billy: Du wiederholst dich. Du darfst aber sicher sein, dass ich mich um alles nach besten Kräften bemühen werde. You recur. However, you can be sure, that I will take care of everything after the best forces. Semjase: 36. Sicher, davon bin ich überzeugt. Certainly, I am confident from it. 37. Jetzt aber möchte ich dir noch erklären, dass du künftighin solche Aufforderungen an dich nicht mehr niederschreiben wirst. Now, however, I would still like to explain to you, henceforth, that you do not write down such requests to yourself any more (in the contact notes). 38. Wenn wir dir weitere solche Aufgaben übertragen, dann sind diese Nachrichten nicht mehr für das Wissen der Öffentlichkeit bestimmt. If we transfer further such tasks for you, then, this information is intended no more for the knowledge of the public. After the spaceship did not show up at Grand Junction, Colorado, (possibly owing to Billy's intercession? and possibly saving your sister), Applewhite and Nettles, aka Bonnie Lu Trusdale traveled under various aliases trying to recruit again. I know that at least Applewhite had whitish hair and blue eyes. Regards Bob | ||
Mehraein62 Member Post Number: 163 Registered: 12-2007 |
all friends appreciate to have your idea (and also Figu view point) about 1- all the story in project camelot 2-ET meeting with USA president Eisenhower? Salome M45 | ||
Edward Member Post Number: 1150 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi Mehraein..... I am not that familiar with Project Camelot, and as far as I know, it has not been mentioned in Billy's materials. If it were true and of great importance, it would have been mentioned. And the so-called ET meeting with USA president Eisenhower, is, as far as I know, also not based on Truth. [Of what ever ET species] One whom has studied and examined Billy's Contact Notes, would know and Acknowledge, that the Plejarans would Never make Official or Unofficial contact with the Americans. This is well stated in the Contact Notes. And certainly not, a president of the USA. The Plejarans did make a so-called contact, to provide them for certain information; as you may know, concerning the von Braun and Walt Disney case (Apollo Hoax), and one gentlemen whom was approached by two Plejarans, whom was to take part of Acknowledging Billy's Contact case, and the women Semjase, I think it was, through the concourse of circumstance, met. So, these contacts were more in the sense of accumulating information; which they can have access to, if needed. And which is/was part of their mission. The Plejarans are/were here, Only...for The Mission and assisting Billy. And thus...Not to make contact with any US president, or anyone like-wise. So, if there would have been that so-called Eisenhower contact/meeting, with whomever ET group, the Plejarans would have made this known. There was another group that supposedly wanted to make a contact with the USA, but the Plejarans redirected them to NOT make such contact, because of the Malice Agenda(s) the USA had in mind. If there would have been an Official Contact with the US president or Government, it was to be done through Billy! But, it seemed, that the USA did not go accord with this, so it was all called off! The Plejarans did not want direct contact with the US government or agencies, themselves, regarding the many dangers they would be exposed to. Edward. | ||
Mehraein62 Member Post Number: 164 Registered: 12-2007 |
Dear Edward, first of all thank you very much for your attentions and your try to make the scene more clear. me also dident find more detail information in FIGU materials or Forum archive related to the so called Camelot Project and I think you are completely right also about so-called Eisenhower contact/meeting i think it is like Apollo Hoax , some thing like political motivated show and very far from real truth. Salome M45 | ||
Karlsult Member Post Number: 24 Registered: 07-2007 |
Hi, I read something and quote: "one prophecy states that extraterrestrials will officially land on Earth on June 5th, 1995; a second prophecy predicts this event for 1998." It also states that if it does not occur is because earth people thinking, etc not so good yet. And I assume it did not occur. Correct? Just wish to know if I am correct... Quote taken from: http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_251 Thanks, Karl | ||
Baselineplayer Member Post Number: 27 Registered: 09-2007 |
Karlsult, If I am not too wrong, this have been postponed to an occasion further in the future since it have been regarded as obvious that the current Earth mankind may not be mature enough for such an open contact yet, according to what I have been reading about somewhere. Med Bästa Hälsningar / Mit Besten Grüssen / With Best Regards /Baselineplayer | ||
Markc Member Post Number: 662 Registered: 06-2000 |
Hi Karl ; Yes ,we have no extraterrestials today . MC Mark Campbell | ||
Edward Member Post Number: 1153 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi Karlsult..... The Prophecy you are referring to is, I think the one which was 'called off', due to the many dangers this ET group was not directly aware of, concerning the Powers within the USA. The Plejarans, approached this ET group and updated them with the knowledge they had of those in Power, in America. The ET group could have exposed themselves to many dangers, if they would have not listened to the Plejarans! They too, face the same dangers as that of the Plejarans, do! [As does any other ET group(s)] Edward. | ||
Truthseeker Member Post Number: 319 Registered: 03-2003 |
Hi Karlsult, Sounds like we are talking of the Millennium ETs here, eh? Yes this is the group I once requested a possibly of leaving Earth with back in 2003. They seem like a good group of people from what I've read. But my understanding is that if they do make contact with people, this will not happen until after Billy's mission and time here, for a number of reasons. So technically they can't make contact with people until that time. Peace in knowing, James Truthseeker | ||
Hector Member Post Number: 395 Registered: 04-2006 |
Hi Behzad the plejaren say in Roswell an extraterrestrial disc from z-reticuli crashed, they were travelling a sub-light speed and there were no human crew aboard, but intelligent beings, human created androids. In order to create similar beings here on Earth, technology will have to develop for more than 1000 years. Those beings did not show any sexual organs because they did not need them. That fact can be seen in most of the Roswell authopsy pics. Only living creatures as conceived by the Creation need a reproductive system, because they are obliged to evolve and pass their info (genes) to the next generation. Androids have no evolutive task, they do not contribute to Creation's improvement and completion, so they don't need sexual organs. The book of Philip Corso (The day after Roswell) confirms all these claims by the plejaren. I advice you to read it so you have a second opinion about what really happened. Corso said there were no piloting instruments visible on the ship, and the american scientist realized 30 years later that the ship was maneouvred telepatically. | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 1505 Registered: 12-1999 |
Hi Hector, Which authopsy photos are you talking about?, are these publically available? Thanks Scott | ||
Hector Member Post Number: 396 Registered: 04-2006 |
Hi Scott I had in mind this pic, i don't know if it's fake or not. Some people are very simple and say "it's a female". http://uforc.com/x-zone/Roswell/autopsy3.jpg But at least two sources, Quetzal and Corso, say those creatures had no sexual organs. The military called the androids "EBEs" extraterrestrial biological entities, i suppose they gave them this name because they showed some features that made them different than other living creatures. According to Corso, the doctors who proceeded with the autopsy said the bodies of the EBEs were like "engineered" for long distance intersellar travel (sublight speed) , or at least they were well suited for it. Heart, lungs and other organs were bigger and stronger in comparison to ours, the bodies could perform "heavy duty" and their metabolism was supposed to be very slow. Another interesting thing Corso said, the creatures were terribly injured when they arrived at the autopsy room, but they did not scream or they could not scream, perhaps due to absence of vocal cords. You do not need vocal cords if you communicate 100% telepatically. For me, the Roswell incident is a fascinating topic.... Saalome | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 1507 Registered: 12-1999 |
Hi Hector, That image came from the video alien autopsy. It is a young woman 16 years old who suffered from progeria. It was mentioned in one of the early FIGU Bulletins in the late 90's. Salome Scott | ||
Michael Member Post Number: 657 Registered: 10-2000 |
I just never bought the progeria explanation, as any examples that i have seen look quite different to me. Michael Horn |
