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Likeaflower
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Post Number: 8
Registered: 07-2007
| | Posted on Friday, July 06, 2007 - 11:24 pm: | 
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In answer to Starion's post re. overpopulation in the "Karma (Kamma) and Sin/Atonement" section, quote:
"Posted on Friday, July 06, 2007 - 05:12 pm:
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You mention overpopulation. I agree. First, let's pass a law that no child can be born to a single mother. We ensure that the child will have a good healthy working and useful set of parents in a viable marriage. (Two loving people who can raise that child in a very healthy environment.) We must set standards for this and the question is how do we enforce those standards??? By what means would we punish those who break the "new law"??? Our attention needs to be focused not on the parent, but on the good of the child. Child welfare (government) does not work very well. I hesitate to suggest mass
inoculations or mass implants to prevent pregnancy, and punishing the mother alone for getting pregnant is also rather inane since it takes two. What would be an incentive to have two or less children per family?"
My answer:
You may find concise answers to your questions/ideas above by reading the "Interpretation of the 7 Year Birth Rate Check" http://us.figu.org/portal/SocialIssues/BirthRateCheck/tabid/104/Default.aspx and related information. |
Adityasonakia
Member
Post Number: 21
Registered: 07-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 11, 2007 - 04:09 am: |
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hello,
the plejerans say that people of earth should marry only at 32 (for males) and 30 (for females, i think) if the population crisis is to be solved. |
Cpl
Member
Post Number: 306
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 11, 2007 - 10:49 pm: |
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Hi Adi,
It is impossible to imagine all people being in the position, having met and having become prepared, to marry at just that one particular year in their lifetime. This is unreasonable. People meet the right person at different times in their life spans. To mechanically decide that all marriages should occur at 32 for males and 30 for females would result in an unprecedented disaster for human relations, I'm sure. Probably the Ps meant -- or said -- from 32 for males and from 30 for females? |
Edward
Member
Post Number: 885
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, September 15, 2007 - 03:10 am: |
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Hi All.....
As usual: the Pope is on Tour and once again stating that we all should
generate MORE offspring, to avoid the coming 'graying' in the world, and to
build up the stability of our world economy!
Once again, this proves HOW Ignorant he is in world matters, and all matters
concerning: Global Overpopulation!
And still lives according to the FALSE(LIES) Judeo/Catholic/Christian Cult
Religion Dogmas...which states: "And God Almighty bless thee, and make thee
fruitful, and multiply thee, that thou mayest be a multitude of people;"
Edward. |
Kaare
Member
Post Number: 53
Registered: 03-2003
| | Posted on Friday, September 21, 2007 - 08:17 pm: |
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Hi Edward,
As you stated the Pope is very ignorant about overpopulation. With more than 7.5 billion people on this planet - which is 14 times over the carrying capacity of 529 million that this planet was meant to have, we are causing enormous stress on the environment. We are already witnessing this happening in regards to climate change and resource depletion. In my Opinion what we see now is just the beginning - with worse yet to come.
Wherefore, to then repeatedly urging the worlds more than one billion catholic’s, out of which more than half of them live in the Americas, to uncontrollably populate is in my opinion reckless and planet destructive. My conclusion is that the Pope do not care for the environment or the humanity on this planet. Either that or he might simply be too stupid to see that his words leads to population growth in the slums of Rio De Janeiro and Caracas.
And soon it might also even become dangerous to criticize this guy.
According to Der Spiegel, the Catholic church have given their blessing to a new law proposal forwarded by the premier of Bayern Mr Edmund Stoiber (CSU). (Bayern is also the state where the current Pope, Mr. Ratzinger is from.) Stoiber wants to tighten the so called blasmephy paragraph 166 to also include belittling and mocking. This could carry a sentence of up to 3 years in prison for the offender as Deutche Welle writes
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Calling the provision "completely dead and non-effective," Stoiber is demanding that all forms of blasphemy -- regardless of religion -- be made a criminal offense. The CSU head is calling for tougher consequences for those who deliberately insult the religious feelings of other people, including a three-year prison sentence in severe cases.
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If this gets passed and becomes law there will be wide-ranging consequences. The German daily Hannoversche Allgemeine Zeitung wrote that if the state did follow Stoiber's proposal, then prosecutors would have their hands full.
"Countless films, videos and song scripts could be taken to court and the investigations would resemble what we in describe elsewhere as the religious police," the paper said.
What concerns me is that if Stoiber gets his proposal through and this becomes written in German law, then other countries could get hooked on the same idea and follow suit. This could lead to a situation where cult based religious lobby groups are able to sway judges and influence the courts to put a ban on important books and jail brave outspoken persons for merely speaking the truth about overpopulation and standing up against the planet destructive policy and mind enslaving lies that the churches, cult religions and their figureheads, like the Pope, bring forth. And this holds true for all breeds of religions in my opinion. They all want rampant population expansion, something the rapid population increase in countries like Saudi Arabia,
Iran and Pakistan are telling examples of.
Regards
Kaare |
Adityasonakia
Member
Post Number: 50
Registered: 07-2007
| | Posted on Saturday, September 22, 2007 - 04:44 am: |
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Dear Chris,
Yes, Thank you, i think you are right.
Salome
Adi |
Edward
Member
Post Number: 901
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 25, 2007 - 02:39 am: |
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Hi Kaare....
Yes, always in for your postings!
Thank you for the Enlightenment of information!
Mr. Bush had the same proposal some couple of years back, also; I think I
mentioned this here(but I have not heard any feedback concerning the
proposal, yet). So, it seems that Mr. Stoiber may have picked up the grain
further, and expand it to Germany, as you mentioned, and maybe even further?
Well, I guess we just have to await and to see...how it all turns out, not?
WHERE is the FREEDOM to Expressing One's Opinion...these days, One would ask
oneself, not? The same is here in the Netherlands: here too, the politicians
are becoming more and more - ONE SIDED -. TRUE Creational FREEDOM, they
truly have no idea of; they can say what THEY WANT, and you as a common individual: NOT!
And yes, very true concerning all the media items! They will surly have their
hand full: Literally!
Please keep me up-to-date...if you will? This will than be of most importance
to all of us here. We do not want to bring Billy and FIGU into Jeopardy, not?
Thank you for your Wise and Knowledgeable information....
Edward. |
Rarena
Member
Post Number: 275
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 - 07:54 am: |
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Interesting discussion you folks are having here...
The law that Kaare references is an ego enhancing, mind controlling tool created by people intent on their own benefit and false power. Those in power will have absolute control. Which of course, corrupts absolutely... Anyone who is offended by belittling or mocking is someone who identifies with that limited idea of themselves... which of course, due to our conscious sense of perception can be thought of in at least two ways. The definition of consiousness is being aware of ALL the possiblities of who we are, not limiting them and consiousness is often analogized with spirituality in Billy's writings...
Being offended is a mistake of the intellect. An artifact of the piedly little ego.
Combined with overpopulation this is more than a mildly disturbing idea...
Slavery of the mind... What a concept. |
Edward
Member
Post Number: 908
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, October 06, 2007 - 07:13 am: |
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Hi All....
This may sound very familiar to some of you: In one of the regions in our
southern provinces, with an estimate population of some 105,000 inhabitants...
and gradually - Graying -, to stimulate offspring growth, couples can be
rewarded for the first child e100,- (euros), second child e500,- and the third
child e3000,-!
The southern region province is known as being very fundamentalist Catholic/
Christians. They may have obtained the idea for the mentioned from no one
other than the Pope, perhaps, or as once the French Prime Minister Dominique
de Villepin also once proposed to couples?
As usual: it is all about "Economics", as they say! Stimulate The Economics!
Edward. |
Adityasonakia
Member
Post Number: 72
Registered: 07-2007
| | Posted on Saturday, October 06, 2007 - 01:31 pm: |
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Dear Edward,
But this should be stopped, how can they pay couples for having children?
Where is this done??
Thanks
Salome
Aditya |
Scott
Moderator
Post Number: 1323
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Saturday, October 06, 2007 - 03:18 pm: |
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Hello Aditya,
In California/US it is done also. You can receive compensation/welfare for having children, plus you can receive free housing assistance among other benefits. In my opinion it is a complete ripoff for people who are working and supporting themselves to have to pay high taxes in order for others to receive these benefits
Scott |
Incredible
Member
Post Number: 90
Registered: 06-2007
| | Posted on Saturday, October 06, 2007 - 07:17 pm: |
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The worst of this is that here in the United Estates the great majority of those peoples that are supported by those government programs are the worst peoples of the society.
Most of those peoples that lives from the welfare are peoples that don't like to work, lives from the drug sales and robbery.
Due to those welfare programs they have a lot of offsprings because they know that the government will support them. With the grow-up of their their population the crime will grow-up too to unimaginable levels.
In my opinion those programs only support the degenerate ones of the society.
"we born to die and we die to born"
"Dont take the life seriously, after all you wont go out alive from her"
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Incredible
Member
Post Number: 91
Registered: 06-2007
| | Posted on Saturday, October 06, 2007 - 07:19 pm: |
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With those welfare programs the government of the United Estates is feeding a monster that will eat him.
"we born to die and we die to born"
"Dont take the life seriously, after all you wont go out alive from her"
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Edward
Member
Post Number: 909
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, October 07, 2007 - 02:05 am: |
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Hi Aditya and Scott...
I would fully agree with Scott.
We have here a system that gives what they call 'Kinder-bijslag'= Child-extra/
allowance. Which is a monthly sum of money which every child receives: As It
IS. No strings attached. And this of course, has nothing to do with the - Baby
Premiums -, which is mentioned in my previous posting.
So, a child, here, is receiving (extra) money as a law.
And the Baby Premiums, is indeed a Rip-off...in letting the Tax-payer (even)
pay to OVERPOPULATE the region(country)!
And they are complaining here, about too many Foreigners, and not ponder on
the Baby Premiums scheme, which is even a quite WORSE idea! The foreigner
migrating here has decrease immense, which is positive for the country, here.
But than, letting the Baby Premiums become active......well, some politicians
are Blinder Than A Blindman, I would say, and very Ignorant to World
Overpopulation matters. THEY think they can BUY ANYONE! Very
MATERIALISTIC ideas....THEY have! But alas, there are people whom fall into their trap!
Edward. |
Adityasonakia
Member
Post Number: 74
Registered: 07-2007
| | Posted on Sunday, October 07, 2007 - 11:58 am: |
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Dear Scott and Edward,
But this is so wrong, people will get spoilt by doing this. I amd of the belirf that people should have children only when they can support them and care for them and give them the love they need.
People can't just have babies for money, that's Prepostrous.the government doing such a thing should ban this right away.
This can help reduce the population also.
Thanks a lot for the information
Salome
Aditya |
Kingman
Member
Post Number: 282
Registered: 07-2004
| | Posted on Monday, October 08, 2007 - 01:25 pm: |
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The system in California is set up to help maintain a cheap labor force by encouraging illegals to have babies here, thus making the baby a US citizen. Businesses through out this state hire illegals at very low wages and don't offer them benefits. Backed by the various churches that feed off the uneducated work force, politicians do little to stop this practice. It's all economics they say.
a friend in america
Shawn
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Edward
Member
Post Number: 910
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 09, 2007 - 01:30 am: |
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Hi Aditya.....
You have the idea.
Imagine you being a baby, and that you were born FOR THE MONEY, and
not out of Pure fatherly and motherly Love! That is truly a Slap in the face.
Well, Jeremia mentioned this also very very clearly! A child (as well as the
human being) will just only become a: Commodity! And the RICH in power...
making all the PROFITS! Which makes them: even more (Filthy) Rich!
Only thig is that: may it not, spread further throughout our counrty!? If so,
One can only percieve how - HEARTLESS and LOVELESS - the politions have
become, here...alas!
Edward. |
Vestri
Member
Post Number: 173
Registered: 02-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 09, 2007 - 04:23 am: |
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Its not just the US. It works the same way in nearly every other country too. Every economy is measured by its annual growth rate and most of that is linked to the new housing market. And for that every country needs a booming population, babies, immigrants. |
Adityasonakia
Member
Post Number: 80
Registered: 07-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 09, 2007 - 01:34 pm: |
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Dear Edward, Vestri and Shawn
The situation is so bad.
Can anything be done to stop this??
Anything on a grass root level so people can do it themselves, and stop it.
Salome
Aditya |
Edward
Member
Post Number: 914
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 10, 2007 - 03:52 am: |
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Hi Aditya.....
Well, in our country: perhaps one of the opposition parties will notice this
and take the appropriate steps? But, I think myself, if it does take greater
proportions, it will be noticed by the opposition? And positively, they will
do something about it?
At the meantime: every province has their own set of governing rules, and the
Veto, has to come from within their province. If it becomes, in much greater
proportions, than the government itself, will have to react.
Edward. |
Adityasonakia
Member
Post Number: 81
Registered: 07-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 10, 2007 - 01:23 pm: |
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Dear Edward,
Yes you are right, it finally comes down to the governing rules of the province.
But, maybe these people need to be educated and be taught some values, maybe then they would change, and the world can become a better place.
Salome
Aditya |
Peacelovefreedom
New member
Post Number: 2
Registered: 04-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 29, 2008 - 12:24 am: |
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HI All,
But how Mr. Meier concluded the right amount of population on earth? How can we calculate the estimate of the right number of population? |
Badr
Moderator
Post Number: 344
Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 29, 2008 - 02:09 am: |
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Hi Peacelovefreedom,
First of all welcome to the forum. Billy usually gets such things as the population figures or for example the number of people that died from the Tsunami from the Plejarens. As their technology is so advanced that they are able to do such surveys.
Regards, Badr |
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