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Sirashwin
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Post Number: 135
Registered: 05-2007
Posted on Wednesday, October 10, 2007 - 10:37 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Greetings to All

Could someone give some information on Rasiel; whose spirit belongs to Semjasa->Gabriel->Quetzal lineage. Is Rasiel a plejaren?

Salome
ashwin
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Adityasonakia
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Post Number: 128
Registered: 07-2007
Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2007 - 08:53 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The new Plejaren alphabet (being only 4014 years old), from the 380th contact

But I did'nt get one thing, why are they new alphabets, what were the older one's?

Salome
Aditya
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Adityasonakia
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Post Number: 130
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Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2007 - 10:14 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dear All,

In these new alphabets, we can find some similarities.

Like our 'F' looks like a lambda symbol.
The 'A' looks like our 7.
'B' like Y.
'D' like delta symbol
'I', 'O' and 'V' are the same.

Seems like a long time ago we had the same language.

There are also some Greek symbols.

Salome
Aditya
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Edward
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Post Number: 965
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Posted on Wednesday, December 05, 2007 - 06:30 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Aditya.....


As far as I know: the much older Plejaran alphabet was much and much more
Complex, than todays.

So, I think it was the Plejarans scientists that made their alphabet much and
much more Simple. And thus, the alphabet you have before you, is the simple
version, compared to the ancient version.

The characteristics you show are indeed, somewhat different than the ones I
have seen, in the past. Thus, there may have been some more modifications
done, I would think: to make the lines attach themselves much more
fluently(?).

And yes, there are characteristics being utilized today, that are similar to
the Plejarans; after all: most of our early alphabet, are extracted from their
alphabet characteristics!


Edward.
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Adityasonakia
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Post Number: 134
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Posted on Wednesday, December 05, 2007 - 12:38 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dear Edward,

Thanks a lot for solving my doubt.

Salome
Aditya
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Dsp0123
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Registered: 09-2007
Posted on Wednesday, January 09, 2008 - 05:55 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

today on my drive to work, I thought of a simple question. I came home from work and searched the site, but did not come up with an answer.

How do the Plejarens get/go from place to place?

They surely don't just hop on a beamship and go the the store or to a friends house. do they have a mode of transportation or do they "transport" to the point where they wish to go?? and forive me for asking more than one question but it is all in the same frame of thinking, Do all Plejarens own beamships, or only a few special persons ?

just curious... thanks so much... Debbie
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Scott
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Posted on Thursday, January 10, 2008 - 02:28 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dsp0123,

If you are talking about their home planet, I would think since they don't have cars and freeways, there must be some types of vehicles available to them to transport themselves around on their planet. I don't think ownership is known in the way we think of it, but rather the technology is available to all who qualify and are responsible for its use. I'm just guessing,...perhaps you could ask this when the question to Billy section opens up within a few weeks.

Regards
Scott
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Edward
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Posted on Thursday, January 10, 2008 - 06:23 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Debbie....

Welcome to the FIGU Board!


Here is an excerpt from Guido's book - AY...TF -:

Extensive park grounds and garden facilities with footpaths are placed between
individual living quarters. There are no streets of any kind -- they are not
even necessary, for that matter, since Errans do not use any form of land
vehicles at all. All residential areas have their own pedestrian zones.


Thus, Debbie, as we can make out from the above mentioned: the Errans may
indeed utilize some sort of anti-gravitation vehicles, perhaps; or maybe even
Beaming plateaus, I would think. To over-bridge the long distances, as well as
sort distances. But, in general, they do very much - footwork - on their
footpaths.

Pleasant Studying...

Edward.
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Thomas
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Posted on Thursday, January 10, 2008 - 06:30 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

As I understand it, the Erran people do have private beamships but also have access to "beaming" as well as tube related transportation. This is from memory and so may not be exactly correct. Having a beamship on their planet is likely not very strange since we have cars in a similar function here on Earth (meaning we have private/personal transportation vehicles). I am certain that the craft that the average Erran uses does not have time travel abilities and such, like the more advanced craft since that wouldn't be necessary for their daily needs...
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Borthwey
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Posted on Thursday, January 10, 2008 - 07:21 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Debbie: "They surely don't just hop on a beamship and go the the store or to a friends house"

Maybe not a beamship but, from what I've read in the "And Still Tey Fly" book, each person can request a "hovering vehicle" for personal transportation within the planet.

I wonder who can own or use a beamship, though. I guess they must have some sort of "public transport system" for interplanetary travel(?).

Regards
David
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Alan
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Post Number: 129
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Posted on Thursday, January 10, 2008 - 07:46 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dsp0123, I remember reading somewhere in the notes one of the Plejaren commenting that they generally use a form of hovering vehicle to get them around on Erra, like to work, and that it travels at "break neck" speed if they wish. I know I remember reading that last bit which also leads me to think that they could have been referring there to a vehicle that doesn't create its own gravitational field like their beam ships do. But I'm just guessing there.
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Deeh
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Posted on Thursday, January 10, 2008 - 07:46 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi,
In the book from the Depths of the Universe (or Outer sSpace) Billy describes their method of transportation. They have community flying machines which are maintained by 'robots'?. They take the vehicle whenever they want then return it. Its ready for whoever wants it next.
Dee
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Savio
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Posted on Thursday, January 10, 2008 - 08:19 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Dsp0123

According to the book "And Still They Fly", on Erra there are no streets as we have here on earth.

For short distances they walk, for longer distances they have hovering vehicles: 1. spherical craft 2. a diskshaped vehicle.

Regards

Savio
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Edward
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Posted on Friday, January 11, 2008 - 05:53 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Savio and All....


I was expecting some input...:-)

Thank you, for 'refreshing' my memory, also!

The Spherical Craft, is familiar to me. Billy even utilized such craft at
times, here on Earth, for some Contacts, as far as I can remember. Which may
perhaps be of the same type of one-man craft, as they utilize on Erra.


Edward.
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Mehraein62
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Post Number: 70
Registered: 12-2007
Posted on Sunday, February 17, 2008 - 10:46 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Forum, and Randy

1- According to Contact Notes immigrants from Lyra and Vega as well as 144000 ringleaders later reincarnated into human bodies on earth, without any memory of their former lives .
2- They (this fallibles) later unified by the JSHWJSH and declare willingness to make amends (in next incarnations ) for previously induced damages. as every body sees , if they incarnated in human bodies without any memory of former lives, How they could understand and remain loyal to their duties to amends any thing?! This is a contradiction point.
3- What was the mistakes of this mass in Lyra , Vega or Earth that they might willingly make their duties (amends of their past mistakes) and if did not , they would be under severest punishment!! (According to the law and commandments of the Creation)!!
4- They drew up a Codex for themselves and followers (related to the necessary amendments) what was this codex? If it was in writing? And where it is now? According to Contact Notes.....This codex was to be valid for all future times until the reparation were completed......and what is the reparation? It is following the Codex itself?
Indeed I think it is,

appreciate to receive any more information
Best Regards
Salome
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Mehraein62
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Posted on Sunday, February 17, 2008 - 11:33 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Phi_Spiral
your comments posted in july, 21, 2007
-How could be Erra Musics somewhat similar to Earth music like works of Ravel, Wagner and Verdi , and earth man can not withstand it?!
-How Earthling can tolerate and undrastand spiritual teachings of P,s and can not hear their musics?!
Best Regards
Salome
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Thomas
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Posted on Monday, February 18, 2008 - 11:46 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

For Mehraein, your questions 1 2 3 and 4 require that you no the history far better than you do because the answers are fairly detailed. For the question about the Erran music, I agree that it is a very reasonable question which I have never seen addressed here or elsewhere so GOOD QUESTION! As far as withstanding the spirit teachings, they are for EVERY LIVING CREATURE in my opinion because they are about the true nature of ourselves so there is no need to "withstand" them. They are for all of us, though some of us might not accept them.
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Phi_spiral
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Posted on Tuesday, February 19, 2008 - 01:19 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mehrain: “-How Earthling can tolerate and undrastand spiritual teachings of P,s and can not hear their musics?!”

The premise of your question is formatted around an assumption and not a truth. If a person's psyche and spiritual development is not properly prepared for the message of truth they will have an adverse reaction. A good example of this is the individual known as Jitschi who accompanied Billy and Asket on a time travel trip to the past to meet Jmmanuel, among other things. What he saw was so contrary to his Christian beliefs that several times Jitschi literally lost control of himself and Billy had to constrain him. Once even punching him in the nose to bring him to his senses. And by and large, most people can not hear and understand the truth of the spiritual teachings. As a defense mechanism to their psyche they will often reject it out of hand as lunacy and in some cases go so far as attack the message and the messenger together.

Regarding the music, there are many factors combined that measure its' impact on an individual. There is the effect the vibration itself has on the physical human body; there is the physiological response such as the increased production of endorphins (natural opiates) and there is the overall effect the music has on our emotions and psyche. Although there has been many studies in recent years examining the effects of music, such as the so-called Mozart effect, there is still much we do not know. But I do want to point out the groundbreaking research of Dr. Emoto of Japan and his series of books, The Message of Water. Very briefly, Emoto exposed water in clear containers to various forms of music, then he quick froze them and photographed the resulting crystalline structure. He found that various forms of rock music created a deformed and grotesque structure. And by contrast, water that was exposed to classical music created very beautiful and symmetrical crystal structures. See www.hado.net/ if you want more information and see some of these pictures. Considering that the human body is composed of roughly 70% water, the ramifications are profound.

Since the Errans/Plejarens are more spiritually advanced than earthlings their vibrations are higher and it is not too much of a stretch to expect that the vibrations of their music would have a corresponding symbiosis. Keep in mind that the comparison was made to the harmony of certain classical pieces on earth, but Erran musical instruments are completely different so the sound will be different. In fact, for us earth people, the music of the Errans would sound "very strange" (see page 28 of ASTF). Not knowing what frequency ranges and tones that are possible on these instruments, it is simply explained that the net result on an earthling is an overwhelming yearning for this harmonious state.

Regards
Bob
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Mehraein62
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Post Number: 84
Registered: 12-2007
Posted on Tuesday, February 19, 2008 - 07:56 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bob,
1- thank you. shining , beautiful and up to the point logical interpretation.
2- yes spiritual teachings also could not be accepted by maybe most people yet. my assumption is that , the spiritual teachings in some how , or in some words converted and maybe changed ( of course in wording only) and it prepared in some degree for the Earth Human Mind in order he can catch it rightfully. I mean we can not get the same teachings if for example we would be in Erra with this level of spiritual capacity.
3- my conclusion is It could be prepared some Erra Musics on the version of Earth Music Notes, that we could heard it and It could be a very prestigious ( besides of already All) gift of Erra to Earth at this time. It doesn't seem enough logical?
Wish You Luck
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The_original_dave
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Post Number: 198
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Posted on Sunday, March 23, 2008 - 02:56 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello Eramirez,

In the Q and A section you asked.

''Hello to all and thanks for all your work.
You have stated that after Billy dies the plajaren will leave FOREVER. Are we never ever to see them again? Even in the distant future when we master space travel.''

Yes, we will one day, meet the Plejaran again, once we master space travel. After Billy's death, 700 years will pass before an E.T. race contacts us. BTW, I think Christian meant to say, the P's will vanish from earthly affairs forever, and not that they will actually vanish and that we'll never see them again in the distant future.

Salome
Dave
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Thomas
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Posted on Sunday, March 23, 2008 - 10:41 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Original Dave it seems that you have made an error or else I have misunderstood the contact notes. According to BEAM, the first public contact will not take place in 700 years necessarily but could take place much sooner. I think you might possibly be confusing the 800 years before Earth gets up to speed with its spiritual development or something like that. If I am wrong, can you direct us (or me at least) to where you read the 700 year remark please? Thanks!
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Mehraein62
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Posted on Thursday, April 03, 2008 - 12:32 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sorry Friends,

anybody knows anything about the Codex that mentioned by P,s in BEAM materials?
Salome
M45
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Hoeller
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Posted on Sunday, April 06, 2008 - 06:58 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

According to my understanding of the Talmud Jmmanuel, Jmmanuel was lifted up in a metallic light after being baptized by John in the river Jordan where he then journeyed for forty days and forty nights between the winds of the north and the west where he recieved the arcanum of knowledge. The Talmud mentions that the guardian angels/celestial sons were to evaluate this site for the chosen ones and that Jmmanuel eventually arrived at the palace of god at some point. The writings also mention that god was of giant size like that of the celestial sons he ruled over and that he was the ruler over the three human lineages that he and the celestial sons helped to procreate. So my questions are simply, "Who is this god that the Talmud Jmmanuel speaks of?", "From what part of space did he originate from before arriving here on earth with the celetial sons?" and, "Who are the chosen ones mentioned here?"

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