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    Nestingwave Member Post Number: 76 Registered: 03-2005 |
Hi Peter, My life and experiences are an open book. http://www.geocities.com/nestingwave/DwnStepA.html For an account of my personal encounters: http://www.geocities.com/nestingwave/Inter.html Peace be upon the earth and among all beings! Roy We are all IS-BEs now awakening to who and what we are. Let us become a space-opera civilization, like planet Erra, and find a vision to explore the multifarious worlds of time and space. http://www.geocities.com/nestingwave/DwnStepA.html | ||
J_rod7 Member Post Number: 312 Registered: 10-2007 |
Greetings to All in Peace, This may seem somewhat 'controversial', and is intended only as a point of discussion. Considering what the Plejarens and Billy have told us to date, and in view of what is said in "Alien Interview". They (P's & Billy) do NOT tell us everything. Yes, that which they DO tell us IS Truth, but some is withheld. This is due to to the current level of Evolution and Understanding of Earth Humans - Ourselves. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "So when I make a PORTION of Henoch's prophecies for the third millennium known to you..." Quetzal, The Henoch Prophecies ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "And so, through the JHWH and the Prophets, no signs, or only sparse signs, should be given, that testify to the truth. .." OM, Canon 20:41 "Also ist nicht gegeben dadurch der Weg zur Erforschung der Wahrheit und der Findung der Wahrheit, weshalb durch den JHWH und durch den Propheten keine Zeichen oder nur sehr sparsam Zeichen gegeben sein sollen, die da von der Wahrheit zeugend sind." OM, Kanon 20:41 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ My questions becomes: *> Does the Federation respect the wishes of the 'Domain', or Vice-Versa? *> Who imposes the "Non-Interference Policy?".? *> Exactly Why did the Plejarens remove their physical presence and bases? Some Food for Thought From One Eternal Spiritual Being to All Others, Awaken to Your true Essential Being J_rod7 | ||
Kingman Member Post Number: 411 Registered: 07-2004 |
Alien Interview serves as a good example of disinformation. Disinformation works best when the misleading information is based on an actual event. This article is a classic description for what disinformation looks like. Skepticism is always upfront if one wishes to be able to decipher the actual nature of any story that has extreme claims. Alien Interview makes some extreme claims. These require research and references, witnesses and evidence. Without these critical elements the only thing left to use is pure logic. Logic in this area is not an easy thing to apply. Without a long history of researching ET events and claims, it's easy to allow oneself to fall into a believers position for 'Alien Interview'. We are all going to have an opinion, since there isn't evidence to make a solid claim. But that's how disinformation works, and continues to work. a friend in america Shawn | ||
Earthling Member Post Number: 58 Registered: 05-2008 |
fwiw http://www.roswell-record.com/main.asp?SectionID=49&SubSectionID=112&ArticleID=29836 A strange rock with unusual magnetic properties - deeply scored, with what appears to be moon phases, a solar eclipse and the depiction of a supernova -- has been unearthed on the outskirts of Roswell. Its discovery has startled researchers, scientists and all who have examined it. | ||
Nestingwave Member Post Number: 77 Registered: 03-2005 |
Earthling, Roswell was a seminal event, no doubt. Some are awakening to the fact that all the elements of the UFO/ETI phenomena are just ONE thing happening. Not "many" agendas as some falsely assume. It is a huge puzzle designed to awaken us through the very processes we go through in trying to put all the pieces to the puzzle together. Our ET friends also use DISINFORMATION for a very definite purpose. By fueling a UFO/ETI "controversy" and presenting numerous puzzles, something VERY profound is accomplished. Learning how to use DISCERNMENT. Something that could be achieved no other way. A massive transformation IN OUR THOUGHT for this WHOLE PLANET. Not a "filling in" of linear "information," as many still look for, but a transformation of our very thought PROCESSES from linear to holonomic thinking. What good is more linear information? It is just CHIT CHAT. So and so from the planet so and so, my how bizzar. Entertainment. ETI is NOT interested in entertainment at this point, this is entirely TOO important and serious. Well, do you have your linear information confirmed by two or more witnesses? Do you have any credentials? Otherwise why should anyone believe you? You have no CREDIBILITY and not even a DEGREE? Therefore, you are to be dismissed and ridiculed. That kind of false deduction, conclusion pole valuting and ASSUMPTION represents an idolatrous "worship" of the vain traditions of the fathers. This type of linear UNCREATIVE thinking is exactly why our planet is now in the mess it is in. This is constipation of consciousness. Holonomic thinking and insight into our interconnectivity is a prerequisite of becoming a space-faring civilization and it is also the way we can start to extract ourselves from the insanity now producing so much self destruction and suffering right here in our midst. They are not "giving" us anything, only provoking us by all these different elements and mysteries. Some still want ETs to land on the White House Lawn and reveal all. That is not only foolish but utterly impossible because this is not just a set of linear information to be revealed but an insight concerning the profound interconnectivity with ALL THAT IS. That takes the STRETCHING of our human consciousness. A "knowingness" that is at the same time both intuitive AND logical. The Universe is Ideomaterial. It is indescribable in our traditional linear thinking and very flat human language. Even "HIGH GERMAN" is totaly flat compared with telepathy. ETI is a MYTHOLOGY. That is, a highly LAYERED story that transcends the dimensions in which we have lived in for millenia. This must be done through exercising our mental and spiritual processes by causing us to STRETCH our consciousness. Thus, the ETIs use of metaphor, controversy and what we call "disinformation." We call anything that does not fit into our traditional linear thinking "disinformation." Also, because the ETI -- Complex Occilating Biological Entities (COBEs) as well as very efficient synthesized NON-BIOLOGICAL soul containers (NBSCs) -- dwell in frequencies up til now totally unknown to us, they must use the Principle of the Downstep in order to express themselves in metaphors WE, in this frequency, CAN UNDERSTAND, in order to communicate with us. http://www.geocities.com/nestingwave/DwnStepA.html I suppose this concept is new to most people. No, ETI didn't "tell" me this but helped facilitate my own mental processes which produced it. Creativity. ETI is not just a "teller" but an INTERFACER. We have a negative view of "disinformation" and when the word is used, we think of the government trying to maintain secrets by deception. "They're everywhere! They're everywhere!" Thus, FEAR is a part of the ambient atmosphere of this UFO/ETI phenomena UNTIL we interface with ETI for ourselves and discover differently. The "disinformation" ETI uses is NOT to maintain "secrets" nor to deceive but to cause us to learn NOT to rely upon linear information but to take a PLUNGE into the ONENESS and INTERCONNECTIVITY of what IS by creating cognitive dissonace. The STATIC makes us desire to TUNE IN. It is a HUGE training program and anyone can take it or leave it. It is NOT imposed upon anyone. It is because, THEY, the ETIs, are EFFECTED by WHAT WE DO HERE. It is NOT in their interest nor in their desire that we self destruct. They are our genetic and spiritual RELATIVES. If we self destruct, it has a tremendous negative effect on ALL the beings in the Universe. What WE do here also effects them because we are ONE. I understand that many do not understand this and all I can recommend is that they continue using their linear thinking to try to "figure" it out. Try harder. The cognitive dissonance will eventually blast them free -- a kind of "AHA!" Actually, not just one "AHA!" but a SERIES of them. In the meantime, they will run around making false accusations against others whose linear thinking does not line up with their own. Just look at the UFO community! SUSPICION! Insight is not just the accumulation of more linear "facts" but a synthesis of the ENERGIES of Mother Nature into logical, meaningful, telepathic holonomic thought forms. All ETI does is provoke this. No, ETI isn't whispering in my ear telling me what to say. Nor is ETI whispering in Billy's ear telling him what to say. That is a false concept. ETI only helps one to synthesize ENERGIES of specific frequencies into communicable thought form. This is the way they communicate and this is the way WE will also communicate. Artists and musicians and creative inventors ALREADY DO to a limited extent. But here we are talking about an ENTIRE civilization built upon expanded consciousness. A necessary requirement for a space-opera civilization at whatever frequency it finds itself. We are rank beginners. The dreamer must KNOW that he is dreaming and also be aware of his energetic interconnectivity with ALL THAT IS. This is the most creative possibility for the human being. Anyone who undertakes trying to understand this phenomena by directly engaging in it has that opportunity. There ARE no "chosen ones." WE make the decision to interface according to our soul's intention. ETI DOES NOT USE NAMES; however, WE can assign names to them, such as the very earthly names Ptaah and Semjase. Names that come directly from the Akashic Record of THIS PLANET. It is the same with the alien from Roswell -- AIRL. Roswell was a seminal event that set the principle of the WHOLE UFO/ETI phenomena -- the THESIS of an ABSTRACT -- a kind of "white paper" of the overall communication. We are use to communicating with other beings using "names." This is because of the low frequency we now operate on. They do not use names but know each other BY THEIR UNIQUE INDIVIDUAL ENERGETIC SIGNATURES. I hope this clears up what I am saying. Communicating this is difficult and does require some telepathic interface. Salome gum nam bin urda, gun neber asala hesperona! namaste, Roy We are all IS-BEs now awakening to who and what we are. Let us become a space-opera civilization, like planet Erra, and find a vision to explore the multifarious worlds of time and space. http://www.geocities.com/nestingwave/DwnStepA.html | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 1548 Registered: 12-1999 |
Hi Roy, I am not sure of everything you have stated here, but one thing according to Billy's information. You stated "WE make the decision to interface according to our soul's intention.",,,my understanding is the use of the word soul is an outdated expression. The term soul is a watered down version of what is known as the "solar plexus", which is connected to the nervous system which is an extension of the Psyche. The psyche has no intention in the sense of purpose, except in aiding the physical survival of the body etc... All evolution takes place through the material consciousness and subconsciousness. Regards Scott | ||
Markc Member Post Number: 705 Registered: 06-2000 |
Hi Roy , Nestingwave ; I have seen your website , and by what you've posted here , you have again gained my attention . Congratulations . You seem to present yourself as an authority of some kind . With degree , I assume . Is this at all in line with what you represent ? MC Mark Campbell | ||
Kingman Member Post Number: 412 Registered: 07-2004 |
Delusional thinking is a common condition found with many supposed ET experiencers. Just look at the UFO community. They rely on the ability to expound on the subject without actually exposing their lack of REAL evidence. It can be said that the story they tell grows larger as they spew their experience further. While the base premise, that Et's are visiting Earth are true, very few of the stories told are true accounts. So what good are all the false contact non events? We all have come across those who wish to right books about these false events, thus making money. Then there are those who wish to be in some sort of spotlight, soaking up attention regardless of it being positive or negative. Others who tell these wishful stories live for their fantasy they tell. The storyteller with the most damage inflicted on our emerging consciousness are the dedicated storytellers that foster increasing fears on our society. 'Alien Interview' is a perfect example of a false depiction of a real event that feeds more energy into the fear arena. Having surrogates propagate the story by creative writing and inventing their own unprovable story is another way to carry through a fear agenda. Holonomic(?) Holonomic is a diversion that says you can't possibly understand what is happening. Actually the truth is clearly visible and very easy to comprehend. Evidence is critical. Provable evidence is mandatory. Everything else is just someone with an imagination. a friend in america Shawn | ||
Markv Member Post Number: 24 Registered: 08-2008 |
Ramirez, I ran across this info regarding "greys" and alleged deals between ET's and governments recently, and I thought that it might interest you: FIGU bulletins 2, 3, 5, 6, and 7 discuss the "greys", but in addition to those: FIGU Core-group member and author, Hans-Georg Lanzendorfer asked Billy for his views about the Internet yarns that President Eisenhower had secret meetings, deals, etc. with extraterrestrials: http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_357 These tall tales, quoted at length in the contact notes, but not translated here, inflate into a lunatic nightmare realm of classic evil alien baby-eaters swarming like termites in vast filthy underground abattoirs, and so on, and so forth. The protocols of the group behind this cruel terror campaign of lies are described here: http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_257 and expanded upon here: http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_440 Also, the more that I think about (and look into) this October 14th thing, the more sure I become that it won't happen. I suppose that the only thing that keeps me from completely ruling it out is Half Past Human's linguistics program. According to them, it indicates that around the 15th, some militaries will get "riled up" over something (more specifically, that there's some type of military misunderstanding around that time period). I suppose that that could "gel" with the concept of a giant ET ship drifting across the planet for 3 days, but it's likely just a coincidence and HPH may be wrong anyways. In addition to this, and perhaps I'm being a bit selfish here, I don't want such an event to happen before our (the USA's) presidential election. This is because the ramifications of such an event upon the people's choice could be extremely negative, in my estimation, for not only our country, but also for the entire world. It would cause a state of emergency, suspension of the elections, etc. Not to mention that in a climate of fear, Bush/McCain's right-wing party does very well. At this point, it's very apparent (here in the US) that Barack Obama will win our election, absent something that scares people to the extreme. This would likely cause the people to, once again, desire an aggressive/militaristic person to "protect" and/or "avenge". | ||
Nestingwave Member Post Number: 78 Registered: 03-2005 |
Scott, It is "outdated" only if one does not understand its original meaning, which in todays dumbed down language is mostly the case, I agree. In my limited understanding, the "psyche" IS the soul. The mind, will and emotions. The "Gamut" is the spiritual equivalent (echo) of the psyche and vice-versa. ("Psuche" is the Greek word from which our word "psyche" is derived.) "Psuche" IS soul. "Psuche" is the word from which the English "soul" is derived. The universe is now proven to be Ideomaterial, that is, THOUGHT and MATTER -- monist/idealist not just "monist" as our traditional and highly limited "science" has long maintained in its vain petrified traditions centered around $$$ and politics. The psyche (soul) has energetic harmonics. Indeed the "solar plexus" is a physical energetic switch board and comprises a second "brain" in our human bioform which works in total coordination with the cranial brain. The "enteric brain," as it is called, governs emotions and INTUITIONS as well, which is then interpreted by the cranial brain in a way that makes sense to the individual according to whatever that individual brings via his cognitive interpretations. These processes are simultaneous. "Soul" is only "outdated" because of lack of understanding i.e. ignorance of what the word "psuche" actually means and the amnesia (forgetfulness) induced by focus on the lower vibrations which make up our physical bodies and those physical bodily energies only represent a very small portion of what the human being IS. A great number of people in this earth frequency identify only with their physical bodies. People are in bondage to the vain traditions of religion and science. "Science" at one time promoted that "thought" was a mere "artifact" of physical matter (the strickly monist view - a very foolish and spiritually constipating view, in my opinion.) MarkC No. I represent only what I have experienced, the same as you. And that is, highly limited. Anyone who claims to be an "authority figure" isn't. There ARE no "authority figures," only people with varying experiences. ETI teaches PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY, not running after some other human being considered to be an "authority figure." Human experience is not limted to any one opinion or point of view. One size does not fit all, however, in reality, we are ONE. All of us are unique and have different points of views due to different experiences, educations, enculturations, acceptance of social consensus realities and traumas. These limitations are what make up our individual experiences. Each is unique, yet ONE in interconnectivity. When we realize this, war will end. Overpopulation will end. A New Paradigm will begin and we can finally become a space-faring civilization based upon the resources of Mother Earth instead of monopoly money, with a new vision to explore the multifarious worlds of time and space. Kingman You still totally misunderstand. I am not afraid and do not foster "fear" in any way whatsoever. That is your own projection of fear because you only now know how to think linearly and seem to despise how the universe is -- i.e. holonomic. Holonomic is the way the Universe works. All things are interconnected on the energetic level. Separation is a complete illusion and becomes a delusion when one takes it as "real." When it is recognized that these separations are a dream, one can wake up inside the dream and guide the dream instead of being buffeted to and fro by a hallucinatory nightmare, which is now the state of our world's collective consciousness. Completely unreal. A space-opera society is far better than nuclear war. Peace and freedom come from recognizing our interconnectivity as does respect for the entire web of life, which of course includes ourselves -- self-respect. MarkV, You get whatever you call upon from your inmost being. Peace be unto all. Flow in compassion. Brighten the path. We are all IS-BEs now awakening to who and what we are. Let us become a space-opera civilization, like planet Erra, and find a vision to explore the multifarious worlds of time and space. http://www.geocities.com/nestingwave/DwnStepA.html | ||
J_rod7 Member Post Number: 314 Registered: 10-2007 |
Greetings to ALL in Peace - Salome NestingWave, You do, indeed, have an important Message. However, the Message is in danger of being 'lost' in the 'Noise'. Specifically, the 'Noise' is the Diversion among the Readers here of your reliance on: "what does the ETI have to tell us." The Diversion has also devolved into such issues as 'the Greys / Intervention / Government Collusion / Psy-Ops Conspiracies", and so-forth. The simple facts are that Billy and the Plejarens have already given us "Fair-Warning" that these days would come. They have already informed us that the 'Nation of America' would disintegrate in Civil Disobedience, possible Civil Wars, which would result in the division of the Nation into several separate Republics. I also give a BIG THANK YOU to Phenix for providing the link to: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7065205277695921912 If you ALL would be interested, the Disclosures in the Video in this link will provide an excellent 'Education' on the Meaning of Money, it's LACK of true Value, and how Money has been used to 'enslave the People of Earth'. One salient Quote from this Video: > "It is no Sign of Health > "to be Well Adjusted > "to a Sick Society." < An important point to remember, is Self-Responsibility. Along with this Principle is Self-Reliance. In the collapse of the Global Economy, in the Beginnings of Civil Disobedience, in the Threat of imposed Martial Law, We MUST Stand Fast. Remember, our Eternal Spirit will Endure. The Fear of these Crisis cannot cause harm to our Essential Being. Speak the Truth Plainly and Clearly in these Times. People NEED to hear the Voice of Logic and Reason. Salome From One Eternal Spiritual Being to All Others, Awaken to Your true Essential Being J_rod7 | ||
Markc Member Post Number: 706 Registered: 06-2000 |
Hi Roy ; you wrote : "ETI teaches PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY, not running after some other human being considered to be an "authority figure." Would you mind clarifying for us please the relevance of your statement , particularly the 'running after some other human being considered to be an "authority figure." part . Is there someone that you had in mind as such an authority figure ? MC Mark Campbell | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 1550 Registered: 12-1999 |
Hi Roy, You have mentioned ETI many times within your postings and on your website. Could you list these ETI's by name or origins? For instance Billy has listed his numerous contacts with various beings/people and the time and date of contact. We also know the few random appearances of the Skrill as an ET race, and the Roswell incident which involved a non-human lifeform. The Betty & Barney Hill contact has been revealed as something entirely different than what it was assumed initially. My point being, who are these ETI's beyond what I have mentioned and can the existence of any of these ETI's be proven. It just seems so easy to talk about ETI's, but so difficult to produce reasonable proof. Of course there is a lot I do not know, or will ever know, but I think my comprehension of the subject lends itself to asking basic questions with a simple direct answer. Regards Scott | ||
Phenix Member Post Number: 69 Registered: 07-2008 |
Beste Empfehlung, Kameraden! J-rod7, In 'Current Earth Events'(Post 68) i stated that the Vision and Philosophy of the makers of that video are but an attempt to apply, on a Global Scale, some of the Social Teachings of Herr Meier - for it seems to me that i recognize in this projection some features of the Future Earth as described, so well in Contact Report 251 (http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_251) as in Contact Report 229; Predictions of The Prophet Jeremia (http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_229). I would like to suggest to the Forum to submit this statement to a thorough analysis and some constructive criticism. Roy, I share the stance of Kamerad Scott, in the sense that some elaboration - not necessary 'proof' for, in matters of this nature, such a category is likely to be utterly subjective , rather some specific information - would help this debat. Salome. | ||
Nestingwave Member Post Number: 79 Registered: 03-2005 |
MarkC You said, "Is there someone that you had in mind as such an authority figure ?" Yes ... anyone. Scott Not important. Read what I said before about names. Don't believe anything I say, find out for yourself. We may disagree. That's what makes horse races and the World Series. J_rod7 You are very correct. The "static" is due to the cognitive dissonance brought about through the traditional linear thinking. Billy has prophesied this demise of the U.S. Many other countries will perish also. Finally, there will be no countries at all, only a planet with a single all encompassing vision to explore the worlds of time and space alongside our ET neighbors and relatives. This crisis is world-wide. Many others intuitively saw it coming too. Many of us knew this from childhood. That's why we incarnated here at this time. Many will raise their voices as ONE. There is no "correcting" of any of this, only the transformation of it. Of course some will still try to put a bandaide on a sucking chest wound. It has been based upon a lie and the exploitation of other beings and the rape of Mother Earth. The coming New Paradigm will see a resources based civilization rather than a monetary based one. $$$ is presently worshiped as a god and is now collapsing under the weight of its own corruption. So be it. I encourage others to grow a garden as I do. At one time Billy had to survive on wild roots. We may have to do the same. Mother Earth supplies all those who interface with her. It is well worth it to see the end of this massive lie that has produced so much violence and hatred and out and out insanity. Some of us have a strong vision of what lays beyond this. That encourages us and keeps us enthusiastically creative even while others are despairing all around us. We hope to be a spark of encouragement for those who have become able to see beyond their wallets. The key to success is opening one's heart and finding appreciation, forgiveness, compassion, humility, understanding and VALOR. Yes, we will need a whole lot of that. Flow in compassion. Brighten the path. Roy We are all IS-BEs now awakening to who and what we are. Let us become a space-opera civilization, like planet Erra, and find a vision to explore the multifarious worlds of time and space. http://www.geocities.com/nestingwave/DwnStepA.html | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 1551 Registered: 12-1999 |
Roy, I am not trying to disagree, but trying to get to the truth of what you have stated, nothing more, nothing less. I am not attempting to believe or not believe what you say, but attempting to understand why you believe what you believe, because you haven't really stated anything concretely from my way of thinking. Since you haven't offered any form of proof we can only assume that you believe what you say, but don't truly know it. The way I find out for myself is by asking questions which is why I am asking you to state what you know. I am not trying to badger you, just trying find out why you say what you have said. Please don't state my inquiry is not important, it is important when it comes to understanding another person and how they represent themselves to others. Scott | ||
Phenix Member Post Number: 72 Registered: 07-2008 |
Gruss Kameraden, What do you make of this: BREAKING NEWS!!! WORLD EXCLUSIVE! MOST SIGNIFICANT and UNDENIABLE UFO VIDEOS OF ALL TIME THAT ALSO COVER ALIENS IN THEM WERE CAUGHT ON TAPE in ISTANBUL! KUMBURGAZ UFO'S and ALIENS ARE BACK in 2008 WITH MOST AMAZING FOOTAGES OF ALL TIME!! This extraordinary incident took place in a compound in Kumburgaz/Istanbul was witnessed by many residents and filmed by the same night guard Yalcin Yalman as it was in 2007,) The images captured are expected to have a tremendous impact throughout the world and be listed as "the most important UFO/extraterrestrial images ever filmed in the all World" During the 4months, between May and September 2008, many nationwide UFO sightings were reported from different parts of Turkey, while some of them were filmed and photographed and aired. Within the same period of time, these objects also witnessed by the residents of Kumburgaz/Yeni Kent Compound, caught on video several times by a night guard named Yalcin Yalman and these footages are considered as the closest and the most significant images ever filmed around the world. (http://www.siriusufo.org/tr/?fx=sayfa_ac&url=html/english/kumburgaz_2008.asp) Salome. | ||
Corey Member Post Number: 83 Registered: 10-2007 |
nestingwave wrote: "find out for yourself", I read all about the human beings who built the "greys" on page 483-485 of kb one, as well as information about Zeti Reticula itself. As of today the incredible information is 24 days short of being 33 years old, at 7:43pm of course Based on what I read from your postings I don't think there is any connection between ETI and what Billy discussed with Semjase almost 33 years ago already. Everything else seems to be intentional conspiracies. | ||
Markc Member Post Number: 707 Registered: 06-2000 |
Roy ; Passive aggressive manipulation is the term i'm looking for . So we're locked into the same old battle that no one will have better information ..... until you enlighten us ? Is this closer to what you mean ? I'm not trying to start a conflict . It may have already been started when you made the comment . So , maybe you should qualify the statement , that is , if youre going to make vague definitions . MC Mark Campbell | ||
Kingman Member Post Number: 413 Registered: 07-2004 |
Roy is not willing to tell his 'story'. His connection with anything even remotely ET is highly unlikely. His unwillingness to disclose the greater details of his 'encounter' puts his information in an unusable form. How hard could it be Roy to put your evidence where your mouth is. We wait for your sharing this needed information. You do want us to make a wise decision, don't you? The information we request will allow us to add logical discussion with you and better understand the truth in your situation. Not the mumbo-jumbo you toss in to your reply's that say nothing to what is asked of your so called "ETI encounter". a friend in america Shawn | ||
Nestingwave Member Post Number: 80 Registered: 03-2005 |
Scott - My perspective stands for itself. Take it or leave it. Many of the finest minds on this planet fully understand the holonomic perspective and "holonomic" to be the very nature of the Universe. It's awesomely wonderful. Corey - OK. That's your perspective and point of view. Many others are paranoid of "conspiracies" here and there also. There is only one conspiracy. That is the one within you. Yes people try to manipulate others, but on this planet of forgetfulness, we traditionally ALLOW that by abdicating over our own personal responsibility to assumed "authority figures." This is what has gotten us where we are today. ETI teaches us otherwise, when we listen. 911 was the biggest and most secetive "intelligence operation" of all times designed to further ensalve the minds and souls of men through FEAR. Or, rather, maintain the satus quo of what has been going on for millenia. They are very frightened of change. Especially a complete change in our overall way of thinking. It was successful because the majority of the people did what they are so use to doing -- buying the lies constantly being told by the government and our totally corrupt institutions to further their own selfish agendas. They are finished and now in their death throes. That does make them especially vicious. They find it impossible to live in the higher occilations which require holonomic understanding. The longer you fear them, the longer you will be under their power because by fearing them you energetically support them. They are paper tigers that, when exposed, are found to be like the Wizard of Oz - a little insecure man behind a curtain manipulating a huge mechanical boogey man. BOOOOOOO. Scared? Fraud only works upon the gullible who have no discernment because they automatically trust the would-be controllers and actually believe their obvious lies. They participate fully in their own deception. MarkC - Perhaps you are "locked in a battle." That battle is within yourself. I have no need for battle. None. You, like all others, are perfectly free to take what I have said, a part of what I have said, or none of it. I share it with all freely. I have nothing to "defend" whatsoever. If I showed you photographs and radar records and pictures of "aliens," and said their names were Gmuka, Shelanko and Gordek from the planet Kadera and had forty seven witnesses to sign an affidavit, you still would only believe what your linited perceptions allow you to believe. It is not a matter of "belief" anyway but a matter of self realization. An insight, not a collection of linear facts. It is exactly the same with Billy's experiences. All ETIs, regardless of their points of origin, are communicating the exact same thing to the inhabitants of our very sick planet because the cure effects their welfare also and they are fully related to us. They would like nothing better than for us to be prepared to join them in the exploration of the worlds of time and space, as I have already stated. All the diverse "agendas" are viewed as "diverse agendas" because of a failure to understand what they are essentially communicating. This is my own view, born out of my own experiences and researches. Take them or leave them. Fine. Now, if everyone can put aside their assumed "differences" I do invite everyone to read my science fiction novel which I finally, after hundreds of hours of very hard work, have fully posted up on line. I think some will enjoy it, get a thrill out of it, or a bit of a laugh out of it. Ligten up folks. Life is wonderful. Its free too and not "for sale." Enjoy: http://www.geocities.com/nestingwave Flow in compassion. Brighten the path. Roy As for me, since I have no need to do battle, I will let it stand where it is. I do hope some of you enjoy reading the novel. Salome, gum nan, bin urda, gun neber asala hesperona. We are all IS-BEs now awakening to who and what we are. Let us become a space-opera civilization, like planet Erra, and find a vision to explore the multifarious worlds of time and space. http://www.geocities.com/nestingwave/DwnStepA.html | ||
Marksmanr Member Post Number: 34 Registered: 02-2008 |
Phenix, I watched the 2008 Kumburgaz UFO video and read the article, then also watched the 2007 one, and I saw nothing about it which would make me think it is a hoax, so I would say that those were in fact real UFO's which were filmed and witnessed, and which may have been extraterrestrial. I would consider it highly ridiculous if this is apparently a hoax, because it really is an extremely good hoax if it is. From the analysis of the videos: "According to us estimation the ship is about 10-12 meters wide in diameter and is a pioneer exploration, these are small ships." I searched this forum and FIGU for any mention of this by Billy Meier but I found nothing. Reece Stiller | ||
J_rod7 Member Post Number: 315 Registered: 10-2007 |
Hello All, NestingWave, I have read the Story of your Life Experience and Encounter with ETI at your Website: http://www.geocities.com/nestingwave/Inter.html Most Compelling Story, and well written. If only more Members, reading or posting on these Forums, could be as forthcoming as you so fearlessly have been. Such Self-Disclosure is an essential aspect of Personal Growth. I will also be interested to read the Science Fiction Story You have produced. Sci-Fi was one of my own 'first-loves' from the time I began to read. Shawn, You state: "Roy is not willing to tell his 'story'." Well, the truth is - he HAS told "His 'Story'." Just read it at the Link above. I have shared a small portion of my own Story already in these Forums (Post #149, 04/08/08 >> Consciousness Ability) here: http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/13/9173.html?1210260702 I would be interested to see your Story, Shawn, and that of MarkC and others, as well. So this is your Invitation for Self-Disclosure. I am including here (Encore) this important information, from which we ALL may gain additional Perspective: For any who have not yet found it, this is a very interesting copy of the Lecture for the General Assembly of the Passive Members, presented by Mariann Uehlinger, held on 24 May 2008. Find this Under the Heading Section: The Spiritual Teaching, and the link is titled: On Spreading The Teaching Of The Spirit This is a file in PDF format, which you may save to disk or print-out, if you wish. A Direct Link to this file, is this: Active Link: http://www.theyfly.com/newsflash94/Lecture_for_GA_for_MH.pdf Let Peace be in Every Step Upon our Passing Let Love Shine In our Stance before all Others We on Earth Awaken to a New Dawn And we Go Forth into a New Communion Salome From One Eternal Spiritual Being to All Others, Awaken to Your true Essential Being J_rod7 |
