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    Marcela Member Post Number: 40 Registered: 06-2008 |
Hi Phenix and Marksmanr, Well, I think that the MOST SIGNIFICANT and UNDENIABLE UFO VIDEOS OF ALL TIME are those of Billy Meier's, but these videos are very good too! What happens is that these new videos are capturing the attetion of a lot of people because they are so recent. Lets not forget that the Plejarens have said that some ET's visit the Earth for research and then they leave. | ||
Kingman Member Post Number: 414 Registered: 07-2004 |
Studying the videos I see real objects being filmed, but they all appear under the same conditions and actually resemble different manmade equipment that have nothing to do with anti-gravity, or flight. Hoax, unless they can offer something that is from a different perspective. All the shot angles of the 'ships' are redundant and look arranged to mask any possible ground reference markings. They need to do much better than these flimsy presentations. a friend in america Shawn | ||
Kingman Member Post Number: 415 Registered: 07-2004 |
As Nestingwave explains, "I do invite everyone to read my science fiction novel", this helps clear the air of his postings never actually answering questions posed to him. He was just adding to his fictional story he was writing. Now that is clarity. Fiction needs no proof so he offered none. a friend in america Shawn | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 1553 Registered: 12-1999 |
Hi Shawn, I think at this point we should probably drop any further discussion of Nestingwaves website. Although, I have my opinion, as you do, as well as others, I think it would be better at this point to set our sites on the topic at hand. Thanks Scott | ||
Phenix Member Post Number: 81 Registered: 07-2008 |
Gruss, Kameraden, Marcela, I did come to the same conclusion - it must be said that i am not an expert, though! And yes indeed, the Noble Plejarens and Herr Meier have confirmed that such visitations occur. What i found particularly interesting with this one, is the fact that it seems to be 'massive' and that they are kind of operating in 'broad' daylight. So, i wondered who they are - Earthly devices or real Extraterrestrial Presence? If they are True 'ET's , then does this 'massive' and 'blunt' demonstration a sign that we could be at the brink of a major 'Open Contact'? (As you know, the date of Oct. 14th is often named by certain groups on the Internet.) Kamerad Shawn, Interesting observation; thanks. salome. | ||
Kingman Member Post Number: 416 Registered: 07-2004 |
Point taken. Thanks Scott. a friend in america Shawn | ||
J_rod7 Member Post Number: 316 Registered: 10-2007 |
* ** Hello Marcela, You are absolutely correct in what you say here: "I think that the MOST SIGNIFICANT and UNDENIABLE UFO VIDEOS OF ALL TIME are those of Billy Meier's..." We do know, however, there is a "Non-Interference Policy" which is honored by the Plejarens and those others of the Federation. This Policy, it should be noted, does NOT apply to the many other Star-Faring Systems outside of the Federation. So, we will have Tourists, Science Expeditions, Curious Travelers, Collectors of Plant-life or Minerals or Animal Specimens all dropping by from time to time. Along with these, are some seeking to exploit our Civilization, to influence us in one way or another, possibly with an eye towards Conquest and Enslavement. Others coming by could include Pirates, Lost Expeditions, Others seeking Refuge for whatever reason. Semjase HAS given us warnings of certain non-aligned, malevolent, and inhumane Ones which also have high levels of Technology. So it is really no surprise that so Many are being seen so often around the Earth. Add to all these, are those of our own, made here right on Earth, some which even have advanced Cloaking Technology. Here is a good website for research into a collection of many different sighting Reports: http://www.ufoinfo.com/ One of my favorite Sections on this site is: SPACE EXPLORATION, which has a lot of Astronomical Links - Good Science, Observations from all the Space-based Telescopes (Hubble, Spitzer, Chandra, & others), and beautiful Imagery from all the planetary Probes. The section under "News & Articles" has an Archive of Reports in: FILER'S FILES, which are updated weekly. ** Happy Hunting * From One Eternal Spiritual Being to All Others, Awaken to Your true Essential Being J_rod7 | ||
Nestingwave Member Post Number: 81 Registered: 03-2005 |
J-Rod7, Thanks for your kind words. I did read your testimony and it shows you to be giving and transparent. I also downloaded the .pdf document for careful study and contemplation. It is interesting that "censorship" of others is so important to some, erroneously thinking they are in some way protecting Billy's interests. However, I recently saw a very good tape interview with Billy and the two points he stressed: MEDITATION and INITIATION. Two things not understood except by direct experience. Thanks for being willing to read my novel. Send me an email and tell me what you think. I suspect you will understand it fully. My email address is right there on my website. It is good to meet a fellow meditator with an open heart who also understands Billy's mission and their own. I echo and reaffirm you signature: "From One Eternal Spiritual Being to All Others, Awaken to Your true Essential Being." namaste, Roy We are all IS-BEs now awakening to who and what we are. Let us become a space-opera civilization, like planet Erra, and find a vision to explore the multifarious worlds of time and space. http://www.geocities.com/nestingwave/DwnStepA.html | ||
Marcela Member Post Number: 41 Registered: 06-2008 |
J_rod7: Whether those videos are real or fake, I think that some ET’s could be visiting Earth, and some have the warning of not contacting this Earth because of the catastrophe that was caused by religion. Like Billy told us: quote: “About 1160 years ago three races of ET's from far away galaxies of this universe came to Earth. They got in contact with terrestrial priests and studied our religions. After several years of study they decided to teach their peoples according to the Christian religion, a deadly mistake. Within 11 years the long peaceful time was ended and war broke out between families and nations, etc. When one of the three worlds was destroyed during the world wars, other ET stopped the insanity, and all terrestrial religions and especially Christianity (Christian faith) was strictly prohibited. And it was also forbidden to visit Earth again, and should a ship get lost on Earth and would not be able to get off again, the ship and its crew should eliminate themselves. This occurred about 1000 years after the first visit on Earth, when a ship had to land in Russia due to severe technical damage. The ship was able to rise only a few hundred meters above ground, and because within the ship a terrestrial epidemic had started, it was decided to eliminate the ship in a huge atomic explosion, a few hundred meters above ground. (Summary by CF, based on Plejadisch-plejarische Kontaktberichte, Block 1, pages 311 ff.)” There are also the kind of ET’s that are very low in morals like Semjase has informed us, but I think, like you said, that we are also “seeking to influence us in one way or another, possibly with an eye towards Conquest and Enslavement… we are also malevolent, and inhumane ones which also have high levels of Technology.” So the idea of inhumane ET’s is very scary, but I am not sure if we should be scared about them or they should be scared about us.  | ||
Matthew_deagle Member Post Number: 189 Registered: 08-2007 |
Scott, The Skrill are an interdimensional Race, whose Self-Designation means 'Dimension-Changer', and who appear to live within this Planet in a different Space-Time Joinage, not on another Planet. One of the Men in Black, upon being asked 'How do you account for the apparitions and ghosts that people claim to see?', told Albert K. Bender the following: 'It will surprise you to learn that beneath the surface of your planet, far down in cavernous cities, live creatures that are able to make themselves invisible when they come to the surface. They roam the surface of your planet quite frequently and like to cause fright to cover their stealing of certain things which they take back with them.' (Albert K. Bender, 'Flying Saucers and the Three Men', page 124) In other Words, it seems that they are intra-terrestrial and not extra-terrestrial. Think of the Reports from various Cults of the Apparitions of 'Gods' who are evoked through Fear and mental Breakdown. Though many of these are the Creations of the real-vision spiritual Forces of the Participants, some of these 'Gods' could well be subterranean Men (Menschen) that require strong human Pyschic Energy in order to accomplish their inter-dimensional Feats. It is quite common to torture the 'Vessels' for the 'Gods' during cultic Rituals, thereby producing a psychic Breakdown, as it is also commonly reported that sacrificial participants are raped by interdimensional Beings who appear non-humanoid. Perhaps this accounts for some of David Icke's 'Reptilian' Hypothesis, while the rest can be explained by the existence of the Men in Black, Seraphim, the Bafath, and the artificial Quasi-Aliens made by the Shadow Government. David Icke is a smooth-talking wannabe Grassroots Leader, and he never addresses the most important Issues of personal Responsibility and Criticism of one's Mistakes, making his Books nearly valueless to the average Man or Woman, yet there is certainly far too much evidence for the Things he Reports to fully dismiss that they are founded in actual Goings On. Applying the same Method that James Deardorff has used to demonstrate the Unlikehlihood of a Hoax in the Case of the Talmud Jmmanuel, one discovers that the Number of independent Reports of Abuse by interdimensional Men, with consistent Details, makes it nearly impossible that there is not some objective Phenomenon responsible for these Reports, and these Reports' temporal reach into deep History, such as ancient Japan and Rome, suggest that modern artificial 'Aliens' and shadow governmental Satanism cannot be the sole Culprit. This is similar to the Fact that, as Julius Evola demonstrated in 'Men Among the Ruins', although many of the Plans outlined in the Protocols of the Learned Elder of Zion succeeded, these Plans' Fulfillment required a vast Array of disparate Minutia be manipulated into Coming, that the Zionist Jews and Freemasons could never account for. Therefore, Evola pointed out, some occult Current which was superordinate to these 'mercantile' Groups must have been filling in the Blanks, as it were, and orchestrating History as a whole to assure the Success of its Servants' lesser Conspiracies. This has been identified by the Plejaren as the Bafath. Note also that David Icke simplifies, crudifies, and confuses even his Information about political Activities, and thus can only be regarded as a journalistic, and not a historical or thoeretically coherent, Source. Salome, - Matthew | ||
Nestingwave Member Post Number: 82 Registered: 03-2005 |
Thread kind of... dried up, eh? We are all IS-BEs now awakening to who and what we are. Let us become a space-opera civilization, like planet Erra, and find a vision to explore the multifarious worlds of time and space. http://www.geocities.com/nestingwave/DwnStepA.html | ||
J_rod7 Member Post Number: 325 Registered: 10-2007 |
* *** ******* Warmest Greetings to All Marcela, That was very clever of You to turn around the Concept: Who is the Greater Threat to Who. However, Understanding the relative Differences in Technology, IMO, We are under greater Threat. OK, yes, We do have some Defensive Capabilities = Scalar Weapons, High-Power Laser Weapons, Particle-Beam Weapons, Nuclear Weapons, the TR-3B - which is Space Capable AND well Armed (a small Fleet of These - VERY expensive), and others. However, if "They" wanted, We could be Overwhelmed very Quickly, Our Weapons brushed aside in a Massive Assault coming over both Poles and from above the Oceans. "They" have already clearly demonstrated the ability to SHUT-DOWN our Missiles IN their Silos in Montana, Wyoming, South Dakota. Also Those Missiles in the (former) Soviet Union, where 'They' took over some sites, Programmed-in the Launch Codes, and almost got them Lit-Up, before Local Command was re-established But, then again, "They" may prefer to just sit back and watch as We 'do unto Ourselves' as We are already doing. NestingWave, Well, We have to move Forward. Otherwise, We get Stuck where We Were. Salome ******* *** * From One Eternal Spiritual Being to All Others, Awaken to Your true Essential Being J_rod7 | ||
Adysor Member Post Number: 107 Registered: 03-2008 |
How about resolving the current problems we face: financial, political, environmental, etc... before we can even think of exploring the multiple worlds of time and space. Adrian. | ||
Marcela Member Post Number: 44 Registered: 06-2008 |
J_rod7: You are very right; what was I thinking, really. If they can travel through space, imagine the weapons they must have. I was thinking (before I knew about the Plejarens) that the ET’s don’t want us to use our nuclear weapons and hydrogen bombs and the ones that you mention, but now I learned that, for example, the Plejarens have anti-nuclear bombs, radiation shields in their space ships and they are literally indestructible. So I think that ET’s could take over the Earth in one day and there is nothing we could do. I was saying that we have such an aggressive nature that some ET’s would want to avoid confrontation? The reality is that we are very vulnerable at this moment. I am not against evolution and scientific advances, because if we develop lethal weapons, we might be able to understand how to defend ourselves from an ET invasion in the future; the sad part is that all this weapon technology is meant to be used against each other. I didn’t know that it was proven that ET’s had stopped military plants; then the question is why haven’t they come already? I think that some of them might know that we are in association with the Plejarens and they don’t want to start confrontation with them. But the Plejarens will never interfere in our affairs, so we could be pretty much on our own. I read on the Henoch prophesies that some ET’s could intervene if we reach a point of excessive cruelty against each other, but no prophesy talks about an ET invasion, so this might not happen… Are nuclear weapons and hidrogen bombs the same?  | ||
Phenix Member Post Number: 93 Registered: 07-2008 |
Beste Empfehlung, Kameraden, I came across an interview related to Prophecies, Current Earth Affairs and specially ET Interventions i would like to share with you, for, if one thing, it expresses the same urgency as the Prediction of Herr Meier in de latest translation of Dyson. "Dolores Cannon is a past-life regressionist and hypnotherapist who specializes in the recovery and cataloging of "Lost Knowledge". Her roots in hypnosis go back to the 1960s. She has been specializing in past-life therapy since 1979. Dolores has become, perhaps, the world's most unlikely expert on the prophecies of Nostradamus. Working through several different subjects, Dolores was able to establish communication with the living Michel De Notredame, better known as the prophet, Nostradamus. His revelations and their impact on our own time are both fascinating and at times frightening. In our interview with this Master Hypnotist, Dolores tells us how she attracts unsolicited communications with alien beings through private sessions with some of her clients. The messages are urgent and consistent - no matter who the client is. And the message is that humanty needs to begin putting the earth first, before it's too late." (http://www.consciousmedianetwork.com/members/dcannon.htm) What do you make ot that, Kameraden? Salome. | ||
J_rod7 Member Post Number: 328 Registered: 10-2007 |
* *** ******* Hello Marcela, If You read further into the History of the Plejarens, You will find the stories of Warfare. Their Original Home Star, (now known as the 'Ring Nebula' in Lyra), was actually Exploded by Other Warring People. Imagine the Technical Capability, to cause the Explosion of a Star. I apologize that I cannot point to where I read This (I suggest a Research at http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/). "Are nuclear weapons and hidrogen bombs the same?" ...Yes, in a sense. The Classification of Nuclear Weapons falls into Two Categories: Fission Weapons and Fusion Weapons. Fission Weapons, as the Name implies, release Energy from the Fission (Splitting) of Heavy Elements such as Isotopes of Uranium or Plutonium. Fission Weapons may produce relatively little Damage, as in the Class of "Tactical Nukes", up to larger A-Bomb "City Busters" with more widespread Damage. There is an 'upper-limit' to the destructive Power of Fission Weapons at around 500-KT (500-Kilo Tons). Those A-Bombs used on Japan were only around 20-KT. Fusion Weapons, as the Name implies, release Energy from the Fusion (Union) of Light Elements such as Hydrogen, Deuterium, and Tritium. Deuterium and Tritium are Isotopes of Hydrogen. Fusion Weapons are known as H-Bombs or ThermoNuclear Bombs. Fusion Weapons require a Fission Bomb at the 'Core' to trigger the Fusion Reaction. There is no Known upper-limit to Size or destructive Power of Fusion Bombs. The largest ever Detonated was in Russia, which yielded around 50-Mega Tons (50-Million Tons TNT Equivalent). No H-Bombs have yet been used against Cities (One would completely Vaporize New York City or Los Angeles), but several Nations do have Thousands of These in their Arsenals. These are the Basis of the MAD Policy of Mutually Assured Destruction. This possession of Nuclear Warheads coupled onto Earth-Penetrating Missiles, actually caused some certain Hostile ETs to abandon some Under-Ground Bases. (SOME may consider This last to be Speculation, I think there IS truth here. We would be Surprised to Know what has gone on 'behind-the-scenes' ). Sleep in Peace Salome ******* *** * From One Eternal Spiritual Being to All Others, Awaken to Your true Essential Being J_rod7 | ||
Phenix Member Post Number: 94 Registered: 07-2008 |
Guten Tag nochmals, Kameraden, 'ET' Affairs, it seems, are making their way up to Official Sources. If the following report has some grounds, than we should assume that this Phenomenon could not longer be silenced - there would be no more hidding from the Truth as revealed by Herr Meier! Now it is all about how we, and specially those in office, react to that. (Source: Project Avalon Forum) Odd, intriguing and alarming UFO files released • US pilot was ordered to fire missiles at blip on screen • MoD makes papers public after enthusiasts' pleas * Ian Sample, science correspondent * The Guardian, * Monday October 20 2008 "On a cloudy night in Kent, Milton Torres, a US air force fighter pilot based at RAF Manston, was scrambled to intercept a UFO. Ordered to go full throttle towards East Anglia, within minutes he was 15 miles from a mysterious blip that looked as big as a B-52 bomber on his screen. He was ordered to fire a full salvo of 24 missiles, but before he could, the object vanished. Details about the incident, on May 20, 1957, appear among 19 files released by the Ministry of Defence and newly revealed by the National Archives. It is the second tranche of UFO files to be made public since a handful were released in May." (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2008/oct/20/aliens-crop-circles-ufo-roswell) Salome. | ||
Kingman Member Post Number: 420 Registered: 07-2004 |
A recently released document from the British military files of UFO's, allows the man involved to finally speak about the event. He may also of been approached by the MIB immediately after his experience. http://africa.reuters.com/odd/news/usnTRE49J1P6.html a friend in america Shawn | ||
Kingman Member Post Number: 422 Registered: 07-2004 |
Phenix has the same info I posted through the Reuters source. The mentioning of the visit by a well dressed, IBM-like man, who warns Mr. Torre's to never speak of his sighting, deserves a longer look at the whole story. The actual document would be a good start. Having a qualified researcher ask Mr.Torre's additional questions about the visitor would be better. The MIB's intervention in sightings and encounters are suspected to be vastly under-reported. Each new account we add to the MIB files strengthen the reasons to think MIB involvement is a reality. As the awareness of their presence gathers traction, Billy's story becomes more and more of a likely reality. A good example how the efforts to dispel the truth works to the benefit of Billy's mission. a friend in america Shawn | ||
Nestingwave Member Post Number: 83 Registered: 03-2005 |
You cannot solve the problem on the level of the problem. Nor can you put a bandaide on a sucking chest wound and bring healing. The financial, political system us completely corrupt from top to bottom and will crumble to dust. What will replace it is an entirely New Paradigm. That will be a world based upon Mother Earth's resources for all the beings on this planet rather than a monetary system run by criminals as is now the case. This requires a completely new vision. The more we attempt to "fix" this totally failed system, the more it will spiral down under the weight of its own rottenness. From this new vision to explore the worlds of time and space creative new ideas are already arising. Ideas regarding the Earth's resources. Free and unlimited energe from the ambient vacuum. Life as ART. The whole monetary system will collapse. Politicians have proven themselves completely untrustworthy. Grow a garden. Get your hands into the Earth. Share with your neighbors. Learn to heal yourself and others by what Mother Earth provides you. Learn quantum physics and get down to the energetic roots of how Creation operates. Frineds, this is already happening and is a spark of hope for this planet and for our children. Trying to "fix" all these corrupt and dying systems is beating a dead horse. The visionaries of this world have something to offer and will now come to the fore. We are all IS-BEs now awakening to who and what we are. Let us become a space-opera civilization, like planet Erra, and find a vision to explore the multifarious worlds of time and space. http://www.geocities.com/nestingwave/DwnStepA.html | ||
Phenix Member Post Number: 98 Registered: 07-2008 |
Indeed, Member Kingman, there are certain forces strongly opposing any disclosure of such experiences. The tides are turning, fortunately; ET's make headlines in major newspapers and today in England they are even on TV!( ITV.com: http://www.itv.com/News/Articles/Real-X-Files-released-990273651.html Ninemsn:http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=650080) Heed to Creation, Kameraden! Salome. | ||
Phenix Member Post Number: 99 Registered: 07-2008 |
PS: Nowadays no one wants to miss the party, including Skynews and ...BBC itself! http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7679145.stm http://uk.news.yahoo.com/5/20081020/tuk-near-miss-with-ufo-at-heathrow-45dbed5.html They must send a post card to Herr Meier! Salome. | ||
Phenix Member Post Number: 100 Registered: 07-2008 |
And for those Kameraden, who enjoy digging themselves, here are the original newly released documents: http://ufos.nationalarchives.gov.uk/ Salome. |
