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Edward
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Hi Joe....


Perhaps, the six fingers and toes...are just an 'additional' - Genetic Effect
- anomalies, which can occur, as Billy did state, a number of times. Which can
occur - randomly -. And through, the concourse of circumstances, this was the
case with the mentioned, girl. Thus, it can be possible.

And idem ditto, I would think with her eyes.

She would just be another 'variation' of the illness. Which is quite common...as
far as I have noticed from documentries. There are always new alterations
being discover these days. And each individual...varying.


Edward.
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J_rod7
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Here is the promised Part-2 and conclusion of the account from Air Marshall Sir Peter Horsley. This contact was in 1954. Please refer my post #474 for Part-1 and weblinks. This is From Filer's Files #51...:
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Air Marshall Sir Peter Horsley Claims He Met ET, ( part 2)

In Timothy Good’s excellent new book, “Alien Base Earths Encounters with Extraterrestrials” he reports on Air Marshal Sir Peter Horsley, former Deputy Commander in Chief of Strike Command, a war hero who flew Mosquitoes against the Germans, who has held one of the highest ranks in the RAF who in 1954, had a two hour meeting with an apparently extraterrestrial man in London according to his fascinating autobiography, "Sounds From Another Room.”

Cosmogony
Janus expounded on cosmogony – the origin of life in the universe – seemingly lending support to the so-called Big Bang theory, which he even referred to as the generally accepted theory of an expanding universe that originated from the giant explosion of a vast area the high density gas which contained all the elements necessary for life and matter.

‘If you accept this theory,’ he went on, ‘then all galaxies contain the elements necessary for life and matter, even at the very boundaries of the expansion, the original explosion is still distributing these elements… If you accept the theory of the expanding universe you accept that it is an ocean of galaxies with solar and planetary systems similar to our own. By the laws of probability there must be billions of planets in the universe supporting life, and within our own galaxy thousands supporting life more advanced than on Earth.’

Earth is a young a planet with its Sun a young mother. We may hazard a guess that other planets in this solar system are unlikely to support life except in possibly rudimentary cellular form and are no more than uninhabited and hostile islands. But imagine a galactic solar system somewhere in space with conditions similar to Earth except that its Sun is in the autumn of its life. Provided its inhabitants have survived wars and the alien invasion, it is impossible to imagine what super technology and cultured advancement they have reached…

A Prediction
Janus predicted correctly that ‘perhaps in twenty years time manned rockets will be commonplace and that the Earth will be girdled by satellites of all sorts and sizes,’ and that there would be ‘great strides in the miniaturization of all our present technology, advances in navigational guidance and communication over vast distances.

Non-Interference
Why then were aliens coming here? ‘The answer is that this is only a thin trickle in the vast highways of the universe,’ explained Janus. ‘The Earth after all is a galactic backwater inhabited by only half civilized men, dangerous even to their neighbors.’

Most of these vehicles are robot controlled space probes monitoring what is going on. Some are manned in order to oversee the whole program and to ensure their probes do not land or crash by accident. They must also ensure that evidence of their existence is kept away from the vast majority of Earth’s population. You must be well aware of the damage which your own explorers have done by appearing and living among simple tribes, often leading to a complete disintegration of their society and culture. Such impact is far too indigestible and only the most developed societies can cope with such contact.

The basic principle of responsible space exploration is that you do not interfere with the natural development and order of life in the universe anymore than you should upset or destroy an ant heap or bee-hive. You will have to grow a lot of older and learn how to behave on your own planet, if indeed you do not blow your selves up between times, before you are ready for galactic travel.

The Observers
‘Since time immemorial,’ Janus continued, ‘there have been tales of vessels coming out of the sky bringing strange visitors.’ Observers do come among you and make contact on a very selective basis where they judge that such contact could not harm either party.’

These observers have studied earth for a long time. With advanced medical science may have been fitted with the right sort of internal equipment to allow their bodies to operate normally until they leave. It is not very difficult to obtain the right sort of clothes and means to move around quite freely. The observers are not interested in interfering in your affairs, but once you are ready to escape from your own solar system it is of paramount importance that you have learned your responsibilities for the preservation of life everywhere. While you are still far away from traveling in deep space, such contacts will be infrequent and must be conducted with great secrecy.

The observers have very highly developed mental powers, including extra- sensory, thought reading, hypnosis and the ability to use different dimensions. and rely solely on their special powers to look after themselves. They make contact only with selected people where secrecy can be maintained. In the loosely-knit societies of the Western world, particularly in England and America, it is fairly easy with the help of friends to do this but not in police and dictators states.

The discourse ended. Sir Peter bade Mr. Janus farewell, saying that he would give consideration to the request to meet Prince Phillip.Thanks to Timothy Good, “Alien Base Earths Encounters With Extraterrestrials” P.212-213.

Editor’s Note: I met Prince Phillip and told him about my sighting of a huge UFO over England. He indicated he believed in UFOs because his uncle Earl Mountbatten had seen them up close and he believed his uncle.
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From One Eternal Spiritual Being to All Others, Awaken to Your true Essential Being
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J_rod7
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Posted on Wednesday, December 31, 2008 - 01:29 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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From Filer's Files #1-2009...:

[ "Texas - Mile Long UFO..." ]

[ "STEPHENVILLE -- Jason Greywolf Leigh writes, "To give you a 'heads up' on a truly amazing 'UFO sighting' seen by me on January 8, 2008, and hundreds of other people saw a tremendous UFO! Even a judge, respected citizens and a Pastor with his church members of all ages saw it as well! http://empiretribune.com/

"What they saw and what I saw were two different objects, although in the same part of the clear night sky! The Stephenville UFO was said by an experienced pilot and a navigational expert, to have been at least 1 mile long and 1/2 a mile wide! The recent wave of sightings in Texas during January are plotted on this map and could be interpreted as indicating a similar situation to the Mothership sightings in France and elsewhere. [( See map and photos at: www.NationalUFOCenter.com and www.ufofiler.com /Rod )]

"MOTHERSHIP? What I saw around the same time was higher up in the ENE clear sky and was like a blue star that was stationary and then zipped to the south, quick as that, although both my sighting and theirs were shortly thereafter pursued by F-16s!

"Steve Allen, a pilot and freight company owner, described the object he saw as a mile long and half a mile wide. "It was positively, absolutely nothing from these parts," he said. "I am a pilot and have been flying for 30 years and fly several times a week and have never seen anything like this."

"A pilot, policeman and local business owners are among those who insist they saw a huge silent object with bright lights flying low and fast over the town of Stephenville and Dublin, 60 miles south west of Fort Worth.

"The Federal Aviation Administration later released a radar report that confirmed that a craft measuring between 524 and 1048 feet overflew the Texas White House unopposed on January 8, 2008.

"Ricky Sorrells, a machinist, looking through his rifle's telescopic sights said, "I saw a flat and seamless metallic object with hundreds of holes or indentations, hovering about 300 feet over a field. We never heard any noise from the craft that headed west towards Abilene. Ten minutes later the craft came again with two jets chasing it headed east towards Ft. Worth, TX, at about 4000 feet. The jets were unable to catch and went into the distance at full throttle." ]

Clearly, SOME kind of message is being sent here with these over-flights.
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You say you want an Evolution, well you know, we're all doing what we can. -(Beatles revamped)
Rod
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J_rod7
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Posted on Wednesday, December 31, 2008 - 09:33 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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Two more articles from Filer's Files #1-2009
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[ "High ranking Japanese Government officials claim UFOs are flying over Japan." ]

[" As a Japanese satellite circles the Moon, Japan may be finding evidence that extraterrestrial visitors exist. Several top Japanese government spokesman claim they personally believe in UFOs.

"Japan's Defense Shigeru Ishiba became the second member of the Cabinet to profess a belief in UFOs. Ishiba told reporters, saying it was his personal view that UFOs exist. Ishiba stated, 'He was looking at how Japan's military could respond to aliens under the pacifist Constitution. There are no grounds for us to deny that there are unidentified flying objects [UFOs] and some life-form that controls them." " ]
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[ "Vatican Astronomer says, “Extraterrestrials are our Brothers." ]

"On May 13, 2008, the Jesuit Chief of the Vatican Observatory stated that "Extraterrestrials are our Brothers." published in an interview in the Vatican official newspaper L'Osservatore Romano. The Pope's chief astronomer says that life on Mars cannot be ruled out. Writing in the Vatican newspaper, the astronomer, Father Gabriel Funes, said intelligent beings created by God could exist in outer space. Father Funes, is a respected scientist who collaborates with universities around the world. The search for forms of extraterrestrial life, he says, does not contradict belief in God." ]

IF only those in the catholic church knew what what we Know.! That would blow their skirts up.
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[ "On May 14, 2008, the U.K. Ministry of Defence executed a massive document dump of previously secret UFO/ET files. On October 20, 2008, the UK Ministry of Defence released 19 more secret files, and ABC Nightline News broadcast a TV news segment suggesting a state of ongoing hostilities between Extraterrestrials and UK and USA armed forces. Pilots were ordered to shoot down UFOs, but were unsuccessful. I personally was ordered to chase UFOs by London Control. Hundreds of sightings were reported over the UK during the year." ]
-( Major George A. Filer. USAF (Ret) )

The files are available at: www.nationalufocenter.com and: www.ufofiler.com
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Have a Happy New Journey around the Sun.
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You say you want an Evolution, well you know, we're all doing what we can. -(Beatles revamped)
Rod
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Cpl
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Hi Rod,

Former Japanese PM Kaifu actually opened -- when in term or shortly after -- an international data base and museum of UFO information at UFO hot spot Hakui in Ishikawa prefecture about 15-20 years ago. The building is shaped like a massive UFO and was financed by local government funds.

I've heard they have in the UFO-shaped museum, for starters, copies of all documents released under the US Freedom of Information Act.

Hakui had had a spat of impressive UFO sightings around 1989-90 after already being well-known as a Japanese UFO hot spot. One UFO sighting was the famous "transparent UFO" reproduced in the then current Japan Times newspaper -- and on Japanese TV, of course. The UFO was thought to have also been seen over Hawaii.

The local government, having no better use for its allocated government funds, decided to use the money to build the museum in an attempt to attract more visitors, thereby giving the area a more permanent economic boost following the boon to business and tourism that the "transparent UFO" brought in its wake that summer, just a couple of weeks before I was up there.

Hakui is just a small village on the coast of the Sea of Japan or China Sea. The mountains behind it are (or were) the hot spot.

I was informed by someone in Dentsu at the time that there was definitely a Japanese version of some kind of MJ12 as a friend of his had attended one of the meetings and recognized a lot of top Japanese faces present -- members of the government and heads of international conglomerates etc.

Best,

Chris
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J_rod7
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OOOH, AHH - Look at the Bright Shiny UFO.

That seem to be as far as most people seem to get.

The Spiritual Teachings are for all Human Beings on Earth. The knowledge of the Truth of Creation supersedes the value of all other knowledge "discovered" by orders of magnitude. That the PRIMARY SOURCE of such revealed Truths seems to escape the notice of most people, stuck on the "Bright Shiny UFO" as they are.

The Source itself is from a highly evolved Spirit level, known as Arahat Athersata. This level of Spiritual evolution is beyond even that level of the Humans coming to us from the Plejares. From beyond even the level of the Andromeda Council, which the Plejarens look to for THEIR own guidance.

Billy and the Plejarens have opened the Doors for Earth Humanity to receive this knowledge, in order to stimulate our Spiritual Evolution on Earth. Billy was CHOSEN for this Mission from before his birth.

The Truth of these teachings WILL go forth into all Humanity. It is like "the Great Rock, carved from the Mountain, which will roll on without stop." The time-scale for this: before the finish of 800 more years. Then, WE ALL go forward as one united Human Family. Those from ALL the Stars, now watching our progress, will THEN accept us among them.

OOOH, Those coming IN the Bright Shiny UFOs have much to tell us.

In Peace

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You say you want an Evolution, well you know, we're all doing what we can. -(Beatles revamped)
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Ramirez
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It's not long but given the location I think impossible to fake.

Only about 40 seconds but take a look.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKQphqeeCC4

So would you imagine these are secret US black ops experimental craft ?
If you fly them low over a city in daylight they wouldn't be a secret anymore eh .....
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Cpl
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Hi Rod,

Can you give a source for your quote "the Great Rock, carved from the Mountain, which will roll on without stop"?

I asked Billy about this from the wording and imagery from Daniel in the Bible and he said it had nothing to do with the current mission.

Chris
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J_rod7
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Hi Chris,

Well, perhaps I should have omitted the quote marks. Essentially, I was quoting my own thoughts. True, there is (and are) similar quotes in Daniel and other sources. In the CONTEXT of my post, it is used to emphasize to the reader, that Truth is unstoppable - and will go out to all Humans on Earth. I originally made this post to some skeptics over at the Project Avalon Forum, then decided to share it here.

Salome
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Marksmanr
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Ramirez that UFO video looks like it was made with Adobe After Effects.
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Ramirez
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Marksmanr.
To fake this you would need to assemble a group of actors including the reporter.

Shoot a street scence where they go through the motions of being surprised, scramble about & point towards the sky.

Then superimpose a color correct layer of the 3 craft including synchronomous blurring with the background objects (light posts, trees, plants, buildings people moving about).

Merge the layers keeping the craft proportions & relative distance to each other and the camera constant as they glide across the skyline and dont accidentally move through foreground objects.

All that effort just to post a 48 second clip on YouTube .... doesn't make sense.

A longer version of this video including sound exists but has been withdrawn from circulation.

Cheers.
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Marksmanr
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Ramirez please watch this video as an example at how easy it is to fake:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfqDVP_0O0c
Reece Stiller
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Ramirez
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Marksmanr.
It might be possible for Lucasarts or similar studio to produce convincing special effects however you cannot compare the two.

To produce a faked video of the linked scene in question is another matter due to the camera position relative to background, foreground, size of objects, movement across the field of view by objects.

Note the correct focus & blurr of objects consistent with camera movements.
As the camera momentarily focuses reasonably sharply on one object other foreground & background objects lose clarity consistent with optical reality.
This aspect would be very difficult to fake.

By fake I mean insertion of the 3 objects into the video by some means rather than it simply being a record of what actually transpired.

Again .... what's the motive to post a 48 second clip showing an elaborate fake ?
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Marksmanr
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Well it's up to you Ramirez to come to the conclusion on whether that video is fake or not. I've seen quite a lot of UFO videos before and know about video editing and so I have a pretty good sense on whether a video is fake or not.

The motive to post a 48 second clip to show an elaborate fake... to try to fool people. A valueless motive.
Reece Stiller
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Cpl
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A colleague here told me in all candor something that quite shocked me: that his father got together with some friends and implemented a big UFO hoax in New Zealand decades ago. They were well organized, called in to radio stations giving details of alleged sitings and positioning, all worked out beforehand to make it appear very credible from multiple sources. The radio stations were quite taken in. The perpetrators had no interest in UFOs themselves and were not particularly harboring ill feeling toward those interested in UFOs.

Why did they do it? What was there motive? It was just something they thought they would do: See if others would believe a hoaxed UFO story.

People do things for all different kinds of reasons that may make no sense to us, or may leave us aghast. And maybe some do things for no particular reason at all, other than because they can.

Sincere regards,

Chris
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J_rod7
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From: Filers' Files #10 - 2009


[ Special Reports ]

[ "French Cometa Report "UFOs and Defense: “What Should We Prepare For?"

High-level French officials - including retired generals from the French Institute of Higher Studies for National Defense (IHEDN), a government-financed strategic planning agency – several years ago took a giant step in openly challenging skepticism about UFOs and ask what should we prepare for?

1. In a report based on a three-year study, they concluded that "numerous manifestations observed by reliable witnesses could be the work of craft of extraterrestrial origin" and that, in fact, the best explanation is "the extraterrestrial hypothesis." The COMETA Report 2000 was prefaced by General Bernard Norlain of the Air Force, former Director of the IHEDN.

The preamble was by Andre’Lebeau, former President of the National Center for Space Studies (Centre National D’études Spatiales), or CNES. The authors of the report were an association of experts, many of whom were or had been auditors (defence and intelligence analysts) of IHEDN. The group was presided over by General Denis Letty of the Air Force, another former of IHEDN. General Bruno Lemoine, Air Force (former analyst of IHEDN)·

The group also included: Admiral Marc Merlo, (in the United States of IHEDN), Michel Algrin, Doctor in Political Sciences, attorney at law (former auditor of IHEDN), General Pierre Bescond, engineer for armaments (former auditor of IHEDN), Denis Blancher, Chief National Police superintendent at the Ministry of the Interior, Christian Marchal, chief engineer of the National Corps des Mines and Research Director at the National Office of Aeronautical Research (ONERA), General Alain Orszag, Ph.D. in physics, armaments engineer.

Outside contributors included Jean-Jacques Velasco, head of SEPRA at CNES, François Louange, President of Fleximage, specializing in photo analysis, and General Joseph Domange, of the Air Force, general delegate of the Association of Auditors at IHEDN.

The French group reached that conclusion after examining nearly 500 international aeronautical sightings and radar/visual cases, and previously undisclosed pilots' reports. They drew on data from official sources, government authorities, and the air forces of other countries. In its conclusion, COMETA claims that the physical reality of UFOs, under control of intelligent beings, is "quasi certain". Only one hypothesis takes into account the available data: the hypothesis of extraterrestrial visitors. This hypothesis is of course unproved, but has far-reaching consequences. The report states that there have been "visits often for hours above secret installations and missile bases" and "military aircraft shadowed."

The goals of these alleged visitors remain unknown but must be the subject of speculations and prospective scenarios. In its final recommendations, it stresses again the need to:
1) inform all decision-makers and persons in position of responsibility;
2) reinforce means of investigation and study at SEPRA;
3) have UFO detection taken into account by agencies engaged in of space surveillance;
4) create a strategic cell at the highest state level;
5) undertake diplomatic action toward the Unites States for cooperation on this "capital question";
6) study measures which might be necessary in case of emergencies.

Finally, this document is accompanied by seven interesting annexes
-1 Radar detection in France
-2 Observations by astronomers
-3 Life in the Universe
-4 Colonization of space
-5 The Roswell case - The disinformation (an interesting text which will be criticized by some readers, and welcomed by others, including myself)
-6 Antiquity of the UFO phenomenon. Elements for a chronology.
-7 Reflexion on various psychological, sociological and political aspects of the UFO phenomenon. The findings are contained in a 90-page report titled "UFOs and Defense: “What Should We Prepare For?" It is apparent these Frenchmen see an apparent threat from aliens and their report should not be forgotten. See more at: www.Nationalufocenter.com " ]


Are there STILL skeptics around here? If so, you may now stick your head back in the sand.

Peace - Out

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You say you want an Evolution, well you know, we're all doing what we can. -(Beatles revamped)
Rod
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Creational
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Dear Rod,

Very exciting news indeed. Thanks for sharing.

Love, Peace, Logic and Wisdom,
Zhila,


Thank you Billy.
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Ramirez
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We might have to apply the nickname Bloodhound to Rod.

Encouraging.
Hope they dont appoint Kissinger to ...
4) create a strategic cell at the highest state level;
Cheers.
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J_rod7
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Thank you Ramirez,

IMO, Kissinger is aged beyond any usefulness.

Woof
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Gordonb
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Im currently reading a book by William Cooper, called "Behold a pale horse". In this book, page 202, he states the following regarding UFO contacts.

"A race of humanoid aliens landed at Homestead Air force base in florida and successfully communicatied with the US government. This group warned us against the race orbiting the earth and offered to help us with our spiritual development. They demanded that we dismantle and destroy our nuclear weapons as the major condition."

Was this group the Plajarens?
GordonB
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J_rod7
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Hello Gordon,

"Was this group the Plajarens?" Well, we can't be certain.

My opinion is: Yes, they probably were. Semjase did tell Billy that they (the Plejarens) had approached Highly placed officials in the US government. They rejected the offer, because they = 1/ wanted to KEEP the nuclear weapons, and 2/ wanted to make a deal with another group for advanced technology, including anti-gravity technology, &c.

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You say you want an Evolution, well you know, we're all doing what we can. -(Beatles revamped)
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Hi all

Gordonb

I also have heard william cooper on a video speech he has done, Alot of what he has said conflict with what is in the Meier material, William Cooper had openly said that the information he had access to when he was in the US forces might of been fake and he may of been used to support the fake UFO coverup agenda and fear mongering agenda towards UFO etc.

I not sure about the part you are talking about though but I have also heard him speak about it. It would seem logical that maybe Asket's people and/or the Plejaren would make contact with the American government but I myself have not found anything in what I have read about it.

Thanks
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Hi Gordonb,

Nice to meet you... welcome to the board.

William Cooper was a navy intelligence man if memory serves... In his book he mentions "sheeple"... Have met him years ago and he told me the Billy Meier case was fake...all done with models... Navel intelligence... that's about lint... right? eh eh...

I would not trust anyone that lies for a living... not that he is still alive, but, any secret service person or clandestine agent who conceals the truth should not be trusted... If they are protecting you personally maybe, but otherwise... no.

Go against one of the commandments and it is like you have gone against them all...

Bill Moore told very interesting stories, his UFO encounters were very interesting to say the least, but I would say he is not meeting Plejaren. Since, according to Semjase in Contact 39 or 40 (near the end of 1975) the Plejaren had only met with a handful of people... two as of 1976, Elsie and Billy, that's all.

There were some other encounters but the primay goal of the Plejaren is to maintain contact with only one person of integity, such as Billy, who does not lie... in order to prevent what happened in Mohhamud and Jmmanuel's time... false information.

Eduard Meier mentioned Ed Dames contacts were not Plejaren either...

It would be extremely unsafe to mention where they may originate from... since revealing secrets dealt with by those primarily excecuting them... would most likely, end badly.

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