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    Norm |
The Hunt for Zero Point: Inside the Classified World of Antigravity Technology by Nick Cook Book Description This riveting work of investigative reporting and history exposes classified government projects to build gravity-defying aircraft--which have an uncanny resemblance to flying saucers. The atomic bomb was not the only project to occupy government scientists in the 1940s. Antigravity technology, originally spearheaded by scientists in Nazi Germany, was another high priority, one that still may be in effect today. Now for the first time, a reporter with an unprecedented access to key sources in the intelligence and military communities reveals suppressed evidence that tells the story of a quest for a discovery that could prove as powerful as the A-bomb. The Hunt for Zero Point explores the scientific speculation that a "zero point" of gravity exists in the universe and can be replicated here on Earth. The pressure to be the first nation to harness gravity is immense, as it means having the ability to build military planes of unlimited speed and range, along with the most deadly weaponry the world has ever seen. The ideal shape for a gravity-defying vehicle happens to be a perfect disk, making antigravity tests a possible explanation for the numerous UFO sightings of the past 50 years. Chronicling the origins of antigravity research in the world's most advanced research facility, which was operated by the Third Reich during World War II, The Hunt for Zero Point traces U.S. involvement in the project, beginning with the recruitment of former Nazi scientists after the war. Drawn from interviews with those involved with the research and who visited labs in Europe and the United States, The Hunt for Zero Point journeys to the heart of the twentieth century's most puzzling unexplained phenomena. Has anyone here at the forum read this new book? This Nick Cook is not some small fry, he's served as aviation editor of Jane's Defense Weekly, the world's leading military-affairs journal. His articles have also appeared in newspapers worldwide. Is the cover up crumbling? This book seem to confirm a lot of what The Plejarens said about Nazi Saucers. | ||
Jean Pierre Lagasse |
Hi all, There is quite a stir presently being generated by people experimenting/developing "Lifter Technology". Here is one website with some info: http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/lifters.htm I have not read anything authoritive on exactly what effect is active with these devices... or why these work. Interestingly, the Big Laboratories, Universities etc. seem strangely silent on this topic. | ||
Edward |
Hi Jean Pierre... Very intersesting concerning the 'Lifter Technology'. I will have to do some reading on that. It working on average voltage use..to lift itself. It is interesting to have read...that Ions..have a working hand here. Edward. | ||
Savio |
Hi Edward Be careful on the lifter, it works on 30K volt, it is a very dangerous game  Take care. Savio | ||
James the truthseeker |
Greetings JP and all, The "Lifter Technology" will more then likey be the technology of space travel for many more years to come. At present, I'm attempting to get more scientist together to make this happen. A good friend of mine is scientist John hutchison, whom I've seen his anti-gravity and zero-point energy first hand in action. More scientist are chatching up to his work however, as much more of this becomes a reality for everyone. I just might get that UFO ride one-day after all!. Anti Gravity: http://www.hutchisoneffect.org http://www.geocities.com/anti_gravity/John_Hutchison/photos_1.html http://www.moller.com http://www.forceborne.com http://www.inetarena.com/~noetic/pls/gravity.html http://www.parascope.com/articles/0197/gravity.htm http://www.space.com/businesstechnology/technology/gravity_research_020731.html From Lifter Technology to the Orion Project. Jean-Louis Naudin's site concerning "The Lifter-Craft Project" actually may relate to something even more interesting then what most people may realize. During one of Billy's travels into the future of Earth to the 25th century, Billy saw first hand UFO type ships of Earth which looked just like the ships seen in a German Si-Fi 7 part TV series in filmed 1966. These ships were called "Orion craft". The series was a big hit in Germany, yet it never aired in North America. Perhaps it should come as no surprise to see the striking similarities of the Lifter Craft to the Orion Ships of the Si'Fi mini series made possible from the Baawi ETs indirect influence. Cheers to Jean-Louis Naudin and the Baawis for their incredible work. See it for your self and check out the comparisons in similarities! Earth UFOs from the future(25 century), in German Si-Fi: http://www.orionspace.de Or English on line translations: No longer accessible except at "eduardmeier.org". Reason for this?, unknown! Very strange! Jean-Louis Naudin's Lifter craft, to the Orion porject: http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/lftcraft2.htm http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/advprop.htm http://jnaudin.free.fr http://www.americanantigravity.com http://www.zikzak.com.au/zik/lifter Fly a UFO at: http://jnaudin.free.fr/afs_sim/afs_intro.htm | ||
Norm |
John Hutchison is pictured in the book, The Hunt for Zero Point: Inside the Classified World of Antigravity Technology by Nick Cook Its a really good book and helps confirm Billys info about Nazi Saucers. | ||
JAY |
Norm, The Book does point out the few things which PTAAH confirmed in the contact notes about the secret war machines in Germany during the war yrs and how they did not work well, I found the sections which give the German information very facinating and to the point as PTAAH mentioned. Michael Horn's idea of evidence and the continuing of the evidence does not cease to stop, it is a lovely thing BE WELL Norm | ||
Edward |
Hi Savio, James-T-T...and All... Savio...Thank for your Concern... But I was not planning to build one as of yet. But it does seem very very interresting...as I've read. I speak of the 'Ions' becos Ions are very 'Unbalanced' to some point; than they would be a +(plus) and than the would be a -(Minus)...so they are very 'inconstant' in movement(s). As Natural Currents are abit More Stable...in working. So a +(plus) would be a +...and a -(minus) would be a - . So I find this very interesting. James-T-T...I have seen the TV-series. Very good series. And yes..there is a likeness. It being far ahead in it's time just as 'Star Trek'...ofcourse. Also my favorite! Good links. Edward. | ||
Norm |
Nick Cook the author of The Hunt for Zero Point: Inside the Classified World of Antigravity Technology was on the Hilly Rose Radio, you can listen to it here. http://radio.atlantisrising.com/ | ||
mark g |
All these articles are useless. The only true way to travel great distances in an instant is by using negative energy. These are all in atmosphere (if that at best) flying devices. I worked with a man whom was a genius at Electromagnetic Field Theory. He finished and reworked Einsteins theory since he only took into consideration positive energy not negative. He also worked out the interaction of fields and matter at one point and stated that if anyone ever had this solution, they could easily build faster than light communication, travel(eventually), and more. He said he was able to do this because he simplified several theories of mathematics across many fields and ultimately brought several equations down to 4 or 5. I guess eventually as we evolve, mathematics will get easier over time and maybe at one point in time have roughly 30 equations that will solve most problems in the universe. This guy had papers written 30 years ago on all this and I have yet to see anyone near him. I guess he used to be chief scientist to one of the major gov'ts in the world but quit many years ago due to them abusing his inventions. From then on he's basically been out of the scene working on many things on his own time. I can only imagine what this guy has. Last I heard his passport was classified and he wasn't allowed to leave the country. One way I know Billy was real was because in the book light years, Billy stated that you could travel millions of times faster than light. This guy stated that to me over 20 years ago. He also stated to me that UFO's could be detected with their shields on if one was able to detect the particles from their shield and slow them down by a process I wasn't given. The same process in reverse would speed up the particles and allow your ship to go faster than light. I alway's asked him why he didn't give this to someone to produce and his answer was: They'd control the world overnight and throw him in an insane assylum the next day forever. I assumed he was talking about the gov't. Maybe one day this guy will get the credit he deserves for what he has done for the world. He was a true genius. | ||
Norm |
Mark, The point is, to stop the Oil Companies, from destroying the world, by using a Free Energy device aa a power source to power everything. I'm not worried about traveling in space. | ||
mark |
Hi Norm, The UFO power source is the best FREE energy source you can use for travel and energy on earth. There is energy all around us in the atmosphere and space and the key is to create a device that utilizes it. It is not only for space travel... Mark | ||
James the truthseeker |
Greetings Mark G. The energy you speak of is known as zero point energy. I would like to contact this guy you speak of as I've being creating a netwark of people from all over the world who are sincere with their sciences and actually build a space traveling ship. I've personally seen and held in my hands a free energy divice like the one you speak of from my good friend John Hutchison. Peace, James the truthseeker | ||
Edward |
Hi Mark, Norm and James-T-T and All... I would agree with Norm to Stop the Oil Campanies. And Yes Mark you are very very correct. There is indeed all sorts of energies around us to Uiltize Freely. We must not foreget...We Too..are a Fragment of an Endless Free Energy....we call Creation. Indeed..it would be grand to "Tap" in to it's source...of energy..to utilze this for our needs. Just as Nicola Tesla...mentioned many sorts of Free-Energy sources...that can be utilzed. It would be grand also...if we could utilze "Corn-oil" for driving our engines...just as 75-80% of the cars do...in Brazil today. Or just like it is possible to drive on "Coconut-Oil". But than One has to have 13 Coconuts...to get 1 gallon....  Or do it as some do in Great Britain; some people drive there cars(illegal) with 'Second-hand...Fish and Chips Oil'! Yes..unbelievable. So, when they drive bye...they do indeed...smell...like....Yes...Fish and Chips. So...maybe for the time being..till we do utilze Free-Energy...we should utilze our "Vegetable Resources". Its also Free...and Clean. And would be great Healthy Competition aginst the Oil Campanies...Right Norm. Edward. | ||
Jean Pierre Lagasse |
Hi Edward, I have not heard of these particular fuels being used... and am very interested. We should catalog these & place the results on some web-page somewhere. At least people will then know there ARE viable options to gasoline driven engines. With enough technical information, people could convert their vehicles (etc.) to any particular fuel which is common/plentiful/cheap in their area. If you (or anybody else) have any links on technical info for using any such alternate fuels, or any other viable options, please pass these on !! Thanks, Pierre | ||
James the truthseeker |
Greetings JP, Check this out and let me know what you think. http://www.hempcar.org The only thing is, people near these cars may get hemped out with a real high. Peace. James the truthseeker | ||
Edward |
Hi Jean Pierre.... Yes, you are very correct. Not many people know the mentioned. I'm glad you(and others?) find this very interesting. Concerning a Web-page...I am not sure...but if you think this is a very idea...why not...I would say. It is indeed a very good idea to inform the public..as you have mentioned...but in most cases...the only use of for example "Corn-Oil"...is the only one that is Legal. The "Coconut-Oil" dates back to before the second world war(but could be even earlier?). And the Fish and Chips-Oil...is very Illegal..as I mentioned in Great Britian and the Justice-department is still looking into this. So...in principle;..Any Oil..if gone through the correct reffined proces...Would Work. You are very correct...the vehicles Do have to be Converted. But in most case..the Oil product...works with a common "Diesel" engine. As you may know diesel engines work on Diesel-Oil. But ofcourse...there may be some/small modification that may be done in some cases. I will see if I can find any Websites concerning the mentioned above. I got my information from documentaries and books I have read in the past. So, I will see what I can do...ok. Surely a very good idea to make the public Conscious...of Our Nature Given Natural Vegetable/Plant Resources. Edward. | ||
Edward |
Hi James-T-T... I have just tried to go to your link a couple of times...but I have No Response!? But I will try later on. Edward. | ||
Edward |
Hi Jean Pierre and All... I hope these links will help you to know more concerning Vegetable/Plant Oil Resources. Edward. Corn Refiners Association; Ethanol from Corn. (which is common knowledge to some) Does not mention Corn-Oil engine usage. http://www.corn.org/web/ethanol.htm ------------------------------------------- VeggieVan..run on Fish and Chips Oil/Grease. Link for more info.: http://www.veggievan.org/book/bookrev.html -------------------------------------------- Calorado Crops: Canola Oil from Canola Seed! http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/1998/01/980129074428.htm -------------------------------------------- Soybean oil may soon fuel jet planes: http://sdnp.delhi.nic.in/resources/agriculture/news/enn-17-07-01-soyabeenoilfuel.html -------------------------------------------- Pure Plant Oil: Clean Engine Fuel Today & Tomorrow: http://www.folkecenter.dk/plant-oil/publications/article_SEN_no34/Pure_Plant_Oil.htm -------------------------------------------- Coconut Oil as an Alternative to Diesel & Kerosene Programme, Apia, Western Samoa, 29 April -3 May, 1996. : *NOTE:this is a pdf.file.(it will open your Abode Acrobat3.0 PDF program if installed on your pc.) http://rtt.colorado.edu/~robertjp/Energy/CoconutOil-Fuel.pdf --------------------------------------------- Other Stuff.. FROM PLANTS TO PLASTIC: http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/research/2000/5/plants_to_petroleum/print.phtml --------------------------------------------- | ||
Jean Pierre Lagasse |
Hi Edward... Since your first info on all this... I found the "veggievan" info but you (all) beat me to it !!! I figure that my next vehicle will be the Volkswagen jetta turbo diesel... This vehicle gets up to 70 MPG... but has the power of a gasoline engine. A while back, I had a Diesel Volkswagen Rabbit which was really wonderful on fuel consumption. It was hard on head gaskets & CV joints though at that time. Ten bucks (Canadian = 6 bucks US) would get you to from Edmonton to Calgary & back with fuel to spare. (I could have visited JamesTT for around 12 bucks !!) Presently though... I need to purchase the veggievan people's book?? They have info on how to produce a decent biodiesel fuel from used "fish&chip" oil etc. I don't understand why this is illegal in Britain though... can you possibly provide any insites if you know of this??? On a seperate note.. Henry Ford produced two different engines. One burning gasoline, one burning methanol. He went so far as to grow a stand of hemp in his back yard & invented/produced an associated distillation apparatus from which to produce methanol. This was to prove how easy it was to do. His personal favourite was the methanol engine... Of course, the "oil producers" at that time responded by lowering the price of oil below that of common water... JP | ||
James the truthseeker |
Greetings JP, As a friend of mine also had a D-V-rabbit car, we were able to go on a trip from Vancouver Canada to Mt. Shasta for a week or so then return back to Canada for $20 each round trip. So I know what you're referring to here. Peace, James TT. | ||
Edward |
Hi Jean Pierre... Glad to know you have some use to the WebSites. Why it is illigal in the country towns of Britain where it has occured...is.., what I could make out from the documentary I watched...was...Smiple: "Smell-Pollution". So by law..I would say.. Smell-Pollution is just like any other Pollution that is of hinder for Human Bodies as for other life-froms....etc. Many people complaint of the strong bad smell. And I guess One has to Utilize "Legal"...Energy Sources. I guess the people utilizing it in Britian...did not "Filter-Out" the smell...as it should? But maybe..in other countries..it would be No problem? As every country has their Own set of Rules and Laws...what is to be Utilized for Public-Consumption. And Anythink that is Off of this..is against country regulations? Edward. | ||
Jean Pierre Lagasse |
I've heard of other sources of fuel... amongst the most bizarre are stories told from the 30's. A large can/drum? would be attached to the back of a vehicle. A pipe/smokestack would join the top of this can to the carburator. The person would start a fire in the can... & then close the doors etc. so the fire would produce nothing but smoke. This smoke is combustible & would power the motor... When a person ran out of "fuel"... he/she would scavange anything along the roadside, throw it into the "can" & drive off again !!! I have not seen any pictures of this, never mind any technical details... just stories I heard/read, mind you from several "old timers" also. It strikes me that instead of "used fish&chip" oil, a person could probably use kerosene, peanut oil etc. A Diesel engine seems to be required though, for any of these types of fuel. A variation on this, is the "briggs & Straton" engines. The manufacturer does provide technical info on how to run (some models of?) their gasoline engines on diesel/kerosene?? (I forget exact details... but remember the concept !!) A change of the head gasket is required to alter the compression ratio. Perhaps changing jet size in the carburetor? The engine needs to be started/stopped on gasoline. Once the engine is warm, the fuel type can be changed over using a valve. Perhaps, biodiesel fuel can be used also??? I still have the technical info for this in my basement somewhere... Any other/further ideas... please place them on this forum!! I plan on compiling these at some point & producing a web-page on these... unless of course, someone else beats me to this !! Salome & thanx lots guys, eh? JP | ||
blatecky |
The fact as to whether the Pleiadeans do or do not have contact with Earth humans in reference to off-world travel vehicles, I feel is besides the point. My personal feelings about the Pleiadeans, is that they are nonapprochable and are also covering their bases, on some personal account, for some reason? What is to my intrests, with reference to offworld vehicle technology, which is antigravity technology. This form of technology goes under this thread heading, is that how far will any man-made technology take me. If I can get past this earth, then moon into other parts of the galixy, then fine. Building a back-engineered saucer is not hard. The McDonald Douglas aerospace group was to have said to have done just this feat of engineering, within the American southwest, over twenty years ago. I have seen the drawings. What is on my mind, is a type of pass which will let me land anywhere that I want as well as associate with whoever I want, in other parts the galixy. This is a dead-end course, that we stay to now, hopeing that the good Pleiadeans as well as other offworld races are going to come here and rescue a crop, which is expendable in humans anyway. Yes this pass to other places, intrests me greatly, as I'm sick of the same old and crave new social horizions. | ||
Rick |
Hello Is there any mention in contact notes about time when our scientists will be able to create beamships with interplanetary capabilities? (not hyperspace) If i'm not mistaken Billy once visited with Semjase planet inhabited by people on the same level of evolution as we are, and they have beamships already.Any thoughts? Rick | ||
Mark Campbell |
Rick ; Ptaah is Jschwjsch over another planet called Aliatides , which is only about 300 or so years ahead of us technologically ( as of the 80's) . This may be the planet that youre referring to . I'm not certain when we will get into into beamship te chnology . | ||
Rick |
Hello Mark I've been reading about it in : http://www.etcontact.net/Other/ContactMeier/MeierChap6.htm (i assume this text is based on orginal contact notes ) Here is small excerpt: Meier- I am interested if there exists in the Universe, other worlds and creatures, who accord to Earth levels now? Ptaah - Many parallels can be found. Thus also worlds are in existence which are very similar to Earth, and on which are living also human forms in nearly the same development state as the Earthman enjoys. Such a world can be found in the Galaxy "Aratom", in the system "Neb", and the world is called "Kartag". [.....] AFTER THE HYPERLEAP Ptaah - What you see there is Kartag. Go now with Semjase, she will show you the world from closer. Over Kartag with Semjase Meier- You have told me that the inhabitants of this world would be a bit more developed than Earth humans. But I don't see any airplanes or similar. If they have atomic bombs, how do they deliver them? Semjase - You err. They have flightmachines but they are not like your Earth airplanes, for they are already more like beamships --------- Interestnig isn't it? Rick |
