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Kingman
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Post Number: 640
Registered: 07-2004
| | Posted on Friday, July 10, 2009 - 11:44 pm: | 
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George,
Simple logic from the deductive reasoning about what you inquire about, this fear of a "high probability" regarding the 'Grays' pursuing the Plejaren, is not likely, even remotely. Think about it. The Plajaren have been meeting Billy for decades, if theses 'Grays wanted to discover the presence of Ptaah or Semjase it wasn't a big secret where to wait for them to show up.
So my simple logic here states either the 'Grays' are really stupid, or this is a purely nonsensical search for a false scenario.
Please consider the obvious. But I've been wrong before.
a friend in america
Shawn
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Mgilbo1
Member
Post Number: 83
Registered: 09-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, July 11, 2009 - 10:38 am: |
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Frankly if you look at the grand picture, Earth is of very little importance. As the Plejaren's have stated, in some form or other, most earth humans love a mystery, conspiracy, secret etc... They just don't want to see things for what they are. Quite primitive actually.
I believe people on this planet strive to feel more important than they really are and we end up getting all these strange stories such as the Grays and their abductions or genetic manipulations. I couldn't count the number of stories (none proven in any way) I have heard about the grays in the last 20 years, most always coming from the same small group of people looking to sell more books, videos or magazines. I never understood how it was only they who had insider info on the extraterrestrial world.
So to get in on the action, I am now admitting I have been abducted by the Bee Race. Their not too happy with how we are treating their cousins on the planet and are here to help them. I have a video for sale for $29, new book for $15 and a yearly mag subscription for $100. Get all 3 for $79 until the end of the month.
Any takers?
Mark Gilbo
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George
Member
Post Number: 120
Registered: 03-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, July 11, 2009 - 12:05 pm: |
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We should be taking our lessons from the past. Atlantian civilization was very advanced technologically and there were many spiritual leaders who could see way past into the future. Yet with all this - dark sided Plejarians were still able to CONCEAL their purposes and eventually bring the total destruction of Mu and Atlantis(Antlantian WWIII). Their mistake was ignorance. If your input to the time machine is missing its vital detail you will not get the correct results - prophecy. It was the factor of ignorance that buried Atlantis.
So if there is even remote possibility that alien humanoids looking like Grays are sitting at UN meetings(new overlords) then this possibility should be checked out. Let's not be cocky about what Plejarians&Billy know(dark side of the Force is as big as it's counterpart). It's been 15 years since Phil S. broke the silence and spoke about this(old news) if this was not factored in and if it is true we are in for 'The Ride' big time so to speak(WWIII).
'Interstingly - dead line for the secret agenda fulfillment was set for 2029'.
peace in wisdom
George |
J_rod7
Member
Post Number: 961
Registered: 10-2007
| | Posted on Saturday, July 11, 2009 - 12:54 pm: |
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YO Mark, I'll take two   
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You say you want an Evolution, well you know, we're all doing what we can. -(Beatles revamped)
Rod
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Kingman
Member
Post Number: 642
Registered: 07-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, July 11, 2009 - 01:48 pm: |
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Actually the Grays sit on the boards of all the crooked financial institutions. It's easy to recognize them when they lie, their mouths are moving.
This is a dead dog issue. No matter how hard you beat that dog, he won't get up.
Mark,
So who, or what are those creatures we see with the big heads around the hives called the, "BEE KEEPERS"? Your offer sounds like a good deal, but I'll just wait till the UTube versions to come out.
a friend in america
Shawn
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Karrol
Member
Post Number: 8
Registered: 01-2009
| | Posted on Monday, July 13, 2009 - 02:00 pm: |
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Hi Everyone,
It has been a while since I posted anything, and then I have only posted a few times so I would like to reintroduce myself. I have been studying everything I can get my hands on that is in English about Billy, the contact notes, and the mission for the last seven months. I also read the forum posts almost every day. I am now in the process of learning German. I would like to thank all of you for your helpful information. I found Billy through an excellent interview with Michael Horn on www.consciousmedianetwork.com. I would encourage anyone wanting to introduce interested persons to the Meier material to watch the two Horn interviews on this site. I also would like to thank Michael for caring enough to respond to my emails-I almost sent my first order from him back because some of the information I read on his site while waiting for my order revealed just how many people were lying or delusional about their UFO and spiritually related experiences. (I tend to be an idealist). This was hard for me to take at first but as time passed came acceptance. I am so glad I opened that package! Now for my question: I have read about Tachyons in some of the information. There is a company in Germany called Materia Tachyon Inconita that sells products made of glass, silk, metal, etc. that are supposed to be energized through a complex "tequencing"process that enables the materials to attract tachyon energy and array this energy around them. The material is supposed to retain this special property throughout their lives. The inventor (who died recently) claims that tachyons promoted physical, emotional, and spiritual health. Has anyone heard of this product or have any knowledge of this technology or of its true value? If anyone is interested in looking at this their website is http://www.terratachyon.com/
Salome,
Karrol Steeves |
Scott
Moderator
Post Number: 1827
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 14, 2009 - 04:00 am: |
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Hi Karrol,
I think more than anything else, learning to be master of your own thoughts would contribute to your emotional and spiritual health, than attempting to rely on an "external" object. It seems people want a quick and easy fix, but real growth, harmony etc...is something which is not handed to us by a simple purchase over the internet...my 3 cents
Regards
Scott |
Karrol
Member
Post Number: 11
Registered: 01-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 14, 2009 - 09:11 am: |
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Hi Scott,
Yes, I understand this, and would agree. I am asking more from a sense of curiosity than anything else. I saw a short presentation on these products at a fair some time ago, picked up a brochure and forgot about them until I saw several discussion on tachyons I believe in the contact notes and on the forum. The things were ridiculously expensive if I remember right. I am trying to understand the nature of tachyons and what they can really do. Just looking for the truth of the matter. It astounds me the number of useless things being peddled in the world!
Salome,
Karrol Steeves |
J_rod7
Member
Post Number: 969
Registered: 10-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 14, 2009 - 01:04 pm: |
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Hello Karrol,
It is not possible to "attract" Tachyon Energy with any such device. Those people are selling False hopes and False dreams.
True Spiritual Growth comes from making the decisions to correct our errors, to become aware of Creation in ourselves and in all other Humans and life.
Good to see you back in the Forum
In Peace ... Salome
*****
You say you want an Evolution, well you know, we're all doing what we can. -(Beatles revamped)
Rod
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Edward
Member
Post Number: 1444
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 01:56 am: |
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Hi Karrol....
Welcome to the FIGU board.
Some interesting excerpts.
Concerning how the Plejarans travel through space.
From - An Interview - The Mission -:
During the early contact years the extraterrestrials still used beam, Tachyon,
and anti-matter propulsion systems, whereby they were able to reach multiples
of the hyperspeed of light by using the latter two systems, which enabled them
to quickly conquer the immense distances. Though they retained these
technologies, they have added their latest mode of propulsion, which utilizes
transmitters. The transmitters allow them to program the coordinates of their
final destination practically to the meter, thus allowing the travelers to
reach their destination without any loss of time.
And it is mentioned that to achieve the speed of light, Billy stated the
Tachyon would kick-in which would than generate(/make possible) the known
Hyper Leap.
Thus, some - Booster - mechanism, she is!
Thus, Karrol, they do utilize tachyon and light emitting beam-drive propulsion
systems. An excellent fusion/cocktail to travel interstellar!
Above will just lift a bit of the veil to your question, possibly?
Pleasant Studying....
Edward. |
J_rod7
Member
Post Number: 971
Registered: 10-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 12:39 pm: |
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An interesting quality of the Tachyons, is they cannot go any slower than the velocity of Light. One curious effect is that, unlike ordinary particles, the speed of a tachyon increases as its energy decreases. A Tachyon beam injected out through a ships Gravitational field, will shed much of it's Energy back to the ships' Gravity field, kicking both the Tachyons and the ship into "hugh gear". The Tachyons may be produced in a high-Energy Quantum jump of Electrons.
So, as considerable stages of technology are required to produce and use Tachyons, You may understand the fallacy of those selling pendants of jewelry to supposedly attract Tachyons. What those people have, is a device to attract money out of peoples pockets.
Peace
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You say you want an Evolution, well you know, we're all doing what we can. -(Beatles revamped)
Rod
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Thomas
Member
Post Number: 676
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 01:37 pm: |
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Don't mean to be an argumentative stinker Rod but your info is flawed. What you say about tachyons is from what Earth science theorizes and not at all what the Plejarens state with the exception of the tachyons never slowing down. A tachyon's speed does not increase as its energy decreases. That is completely incorrect. I am familiar with both the Meier material on this subject as well as the Earth science writings on this subject and the latter is identical with what you state, not the Meier info.
Just wanted to point out the flaw so maybe you could benefit from being put on the right track if this topic interests you as it seems to.
Oh and one other thing, no technology is needed to create tachyons if you think about it. They are produced continuously by nature! (Teasing but true too)
Take care ;-)
Thomas |
Karrol
Member
Post Number: 12
Registered: 01-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 02:06 pm: |
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Hi Thomas and Rod,
Thank you for responding to my question. What little I understood about Tachyons is that they are used for propulsion. I suspected that these products were a farce. I did a little research and I could not believe the number of websites I found selling these items and other things supposedly "charged" with Tachyon energy. This must mean that a lot of people are throwing away hard earned money on more snake oil. For your amusement I have quoted the some information from one of the websites so that everyone can read what they are claiming.
I quote from the TerraTachyon Website
"TerraTachyon Superluminal energy for your reality"
"Superluminal energy for your reality"
Q and A
Questions and Answers
"What is Tachyon energy?
According to Tachyon Code 1 this energy moves 1.28 times faster than the speed of light. When described as a particle, it is able to create or behave in field patterns also. T plus, T minus and T zero are three attributes or aspects which make it possible to describe or even define the possibilities of Tachyon fields."
"Tachyon energy is one type of energy of an immense quantity of energies, which are present in our universe and other universes."
What are Tachyon products?
"Tachyon products are material objects, which are able to attract Tachyon energy. We can say that these products observe Tachyons in order to invite them. A quality of Terra Tachyon products is their ability to interact with humans, animals, plants and places. These products respect the choice of the user, giving them only the amount of energy they need."
Why are these products called Terra Tachyon products?
"Martina Bochnik and Tommy Thomsen were the first people in Europe, at the beginning of the 90s, who were deeply interested in the spiritual background of the energy. Terra Tachyon was the general title for the work with Tachyon energy on Earth and also the title of the first book. In this book the principles of the energy were described for the very first time. (Terra Tachyon, the first book is now part of Tachyon Code 1). The goal has been and will be to fundamentally explore Tachyon energy, which seems to hide behind the barrier of the speed of light."
"Martina Bochnik has been working with Tachyon energy since 1992. She began creating her own products in 1996. Ever since, she has been exploring, teaching and writing books with her partner Tommy Thomsen, who died in summer 2008.She is constantly working on new products, teachings and books � exploring ever more deeply the possibilities of Tachyon energy. Her activities lead her all around the world to invite everybody to experience and to explore this very new energy."
I have come to realize that even those of us that did not buy into whatever religion was thought to us growing up; (I was a 6th generation mormon) there is still some strong subconscious programming that we must look outside ourselves to someone or something that is superior for all of our answers. While this particular thing did not pull me in I was exposed to it and a lot of other-the the very least- useless information during my intensive two year quest for the truth. I started down several wrong paths much like being in a labyrinth before finding the teachings. I don't know if any of you experienced this but some of the things I considered were also out of a desire to avoid being narrow minded. Luckily I did not get "lost" for too long in the maze but discovered each new path that led me here. For those of us that discover the spiritual teaching, it will help us turn away from depending on governments, gurus and amulets, and instead search inside, instead of always looking outside for answers.
Salome,
Karrol Steeves |
Edward
Member
Post Number: 1448
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 11:24 pm: |
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Hi guys....
Very true: Tachyons never slow down(i.e. NOT degenerating to standard light
speed)! She maintains a "constant" velocity, in manifestation(; or depending
how she is manipulated in usage, still Within the framework of Tachyon,
example: Hyper Leap). [Light speed---> Tachyon....---> etc....---> Creational
Manifestation...---> Absolute Absolutum Manifestation....--->..... etc....]
Any average science school student knows that the manifestation of the
Tachyon is many many Multiple times the speed of light.
Edward. |
J_rod7
Member
Post Number: 972
Registered: 10-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, July 16, 2009 - 12:47 pm: |
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Hello Karrol,
A very well written insight: "For those of us that discover the spiritual teaching, it will help us turn away from depending on governments, gurus and amulets, and instead search inside, instead of always looking outside for answers."
As to those in "government," those which presume to govern, they also must eventually awaken to the reality of the Spiritual Truths. As more and more of "we-that-vote" come to the Teachings, there will be elected people with the true Wisdom to govern.
Hi Edward,
I'm not so sure the "average science school student" has any exposure to the Quantum Physics. It would be good if they could, as this would encourage more independent thinkers in the Sciences. The Knowledge I gained in the USN Nuclear Engineering Program was my first introduction to this field of science, even though my H.S. courses were all the Sciences and Math courses.
It would be interesting to know: did You receive knowledge of Quantum Physics in your "classical school experience?"
Hi Thomas,
It would be a valuable contribution if the Earth scientists could understand the more complete knowledge included from Billy and the Plejarens. This would entail surrendering certain of their cherished "beliefs." Some of the problem stems back to government. Those scientist which would propose a "New Paradigm" outside the "accepted dogma," soon find their government grants dry up.
In Peace ... Salome
*****
You say you want an Evolution, well you know, we're all doing what we can. -(Beatles revamped)
Rod
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Thomas
Member
Post Number: 679
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, July 16, 2009 - 01:03 pm: |
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Edward most people on Earth, not to mention the average science student know nothing of the truth about tachyons, me included since I can only quote BEAM. That being said though, your info is off because the most recently created tachyons have a speed almost exactly the same as that of light but only slightly above it. Much of hyperspace does include the multifold lightspeed tachyons, but many of the others have a spped much closer to that of light...according to BEAM anyway
;-)
Have a great day and keep on thinking everybody!!!
Thomas |
J_rod7
Member
Post Number: 976
Registered: 10-2007
| | Posted on Saturday, July 18, 2009 - 07:52 pm: |
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Hi again Edward,
I'm not so sure the "average science school student" has any exposure to the Quantum Physics. It would be good if they could, as this would encourage more independent thinkers in the Sciences. The Knowledge I gained in the USN Nuclear Engineering Program was my first introduction to this field of science, even though my H.S. courses were all the Sciences and Math courses.
It would be interesting to know: did You receive knowledge of Quantum Physics in your "classical school experience?"
It would be a good thing if you have an actual answer to this question, and we all would be pleased to see your answer. This would provide some insight into where in the World, and how many "average science school student(s)" have some introduction to Quantum Physics.
So also, where have you gained your knowledge in this field?
Not meaning to nag you here, old chum, but a bit more than curiosity.
*****
You say you want an Evolution, well you know, we're all doing what we can. -(Beatles revamped)
Rod
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Edward
Member
Post Number: 1449
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Monday, July 20, 2009 - 02:00 am: |
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Hi Guys....
Thomas: well, when/we you speak of Light Speed...you speak of Light Speed,
and NOT Tachyons; Tachyons can only be spoken of when you cross the
boundaries of Light Speed...which is than: Tachyons!! So, you are quite
OFF....there!! You should make clear Distinction of these two differentials!! [And
this is NOT astronaut science!!]
Well, the schools here, are quite - ahead - in many aspects than that of
certain counters, even the US, or where you live. I came to know of Tachyons,
here in the Technical school I attended. And this was back in the 70ties. [And
I read of it in books just out of curiosity way before that.]
After study in the Technical School here, you major upward to much Higher
Technical Schools, etc...and you expand your study classes, if you like.
We do not have to attend a - USN Nuclear Engineering Program - as Rod has,
which is quite Ridiculous!! Man: some - Late Bloomer - Rod is, and his
fellowmen!
And as the Plejarans have mentioned over-and-over of the immense -
Miscalculations - formulas and what not, in todays so-called (Quantum and what
not) Science, and which goes back even, to many Errors conjured up by
Einstein! [See what I mean: Lacking behind!!  ]
Thus: Any average science school student knows that the manifestation of the
Tachyon is many many Multiple times the speed of light.
NOW: let us all get back to the Meier Materials, and not focus on me (or
yourselves....), ok. This IS what this Discussion board is all about....
Edward. |
J_rod7
Member
Post Number: 977
Registered: 10-2007
| | Posted on Monday, July 20, 2009 - 12:14 pm: |
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Well Mr Ed,
Is that all you can do is come on this Forum and trade insults?
There is no indication of Spiritual Awareness in you when you post such nonsense as this:
"We do not have to attend a - USN Nuclear Engineering Program - as Rod has,
which is quite Ridiculous!! Man: some - Late Bloomer - Rod is, and his
fellowmen!"
I graduated from the Nuclear Program with the class of 1966. Does that make me a "late bloomer?"
Since you purport yourself as such an expert in this, and every other field, just answer TWO of these three questions:
1. Why does the FUSION reaction release so much more Energy then the FISSION reaction?
2. Which Element is at the peak of the Curve of Binding Energy per Nucleon?
3. What is the Fourth Law of Thermodynamics?
If you look up any answers, that will be cheating.
I question your integrity here, as when you show up, You are not open for correcting your mistakes; Your attitude implies that: "whether right or wrong, you are always right;" Your attitude of Spiritual Awareness is lacking in Love or Compassion.
I've been looking for any GENUINE contributions from you which moves a discussion forward, very sparse pickings, old chum. Yes, it's about you.!
This is not meant as an attack, rather to point to some areas of concern.
*****
You say you want an Evolution, well you know, we're all doing what we can. -(Beatles revamped)
Rod
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Markcampbell
Member
Post Number: 213
Registered: 10-2008
| | Posted on Monday, July 20, 2009 - 10:44 pm: |
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Rod , you just attacked him back . It's still an attack . Please attend to yourself and realize that you are acting very childish .
expected reply : What about him ? He started it !
no matter .
expected reply : what about you , campbell , youve made sparse pickings etc. blah blah .
yeah , I know !
Rod , please , as a respected member of the forum please stay that way and snap back into form .
Edward , man , what do you have against him ?
stop it or I'll say stop again .
get a plane ticket , get drunk together and beat each other up for f.sakes. |
J_rod7
Member
Post Number: 979
Registered: 10-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 21, 2009 - 03:33 pm: |
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Hi Mark,
You're right, my bad to respond to the nonsense in the first place. I really don't know what his problem is, and my intention was to just ignore everything that one posted. However, when it got right up in my face, my neutral balance was shaken. Only now to let it roll off like the water off that famous ducks' back.
Thank you for the reality check.
Peace
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You say you want an Evolution, well you know, we're all doing what we can. -(Beatles revamped)
Rod
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Markcampbell
Member
Post Number: 214
Registered: 10-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 21, 2009 - 10:09 pm: |
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Thanks Rod , you do us all a great honour .
Kind Regards , mark |
Earthling
Member
Post Number: 275
Registered: 05-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 22, 2009 - 01:45 am: |
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Not to pile on here ... but Edward, your comments at times have an air of condescension / self-aggrandizement.
It is possible to say the same thing without lowering another whilst simultaneously raising ones self up.
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Sensible,_Dignified,_Valuable#Criticism_and_Criticism |
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