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Jamesm
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Post Number: 117
Registered: 02-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, December 28, 2008 - 05:36 pm: | 
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Thank you Thomas. Entry corrected at http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/DAL_Universe
Faerast, Quetzal could undoubtedly understand your thoughts if he was listening or observing them.
Kind Regards
James G. T. Moore
Webmaster www.futureofmankind.co.uk
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Mehraein62
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Post Number: 173
Registered: 12-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 30, 2008 - 10:46 am: |
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Hello To All Dear Friends
I was not here for a long time by now. But I often follow the Forum subjects as best as I can.
I have 2 questions that I would be appreciated if receive any response
1- if any body can send me the Link for the first to the 34th Contact Report by Stevenson or any other source?
2- Simease in talking with BEAM in Contact Report Vol.2 has mentioned that ETs penetrate in this World by 3 options: From Free space , via time-dimensional gates and from Beyond this World. any body knows or learn something about the last case? what dose it mean that?
Salome
M45
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Earthling
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Post Number: 156
Registered: 05-2008
| | Posted on Friday, January 09, 2009 - 04:20 am: |
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I am asking this question as a dog-person. All dog-people will understand 
Dogs on earth live 10-15 years +/-. Since Plejarens can live 1000 years themselves, do their dogs live 100-150 years? |
Baselineplayer
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Post Number: 39
Registered: 09-2007
| | Posted on Friday, January 09, 2009 - 06:26 am: |
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Earthling,
According to what I have read about, the Plejaren do not have pets as we have.
They regard pets as we have, as a source of several dangerous infectious diseases which even can be a threat to our own lives.
As an example, a cat who often licks themselves to keep themselves clean, does have dangerous bacteria in their fur and on their skin after about only 30 minutes since they washed themselves.
If plejaren have some kind of pets, they do have them separate from their own living quarters due to above mentioned reasons.
Med Bästa Hälsningar / Mit Besten Grüssen / With Best Regards
/Baselineplayer
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Earthling
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Post Number: 157
Registered: 05-2008
| | Posted on Friday, January 09, 2009 - 08:35 am: |
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Baselineplayer .. I may be mistaken but I think I read (somewhere), maybe in the contact notes or in the archives of this forum, that there are pets (dogs, cats, etc) on Erra.
I will have to try and find the reference. |
Earthling
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Post Number: 158
Registered: 05-2008
| | Posted on Friday, January 09, 2009 - 04:51 pm: |
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CONTACT 61
[Thursday, July 29, 1976, 00:43 a.m.]
"Pleiadians/Plejaren - have domestic pets, including cats & dogs which were brought from Earth to the Pleiades long ago; not allowed to take current Earth animals due to latent sicknesses that could affect animals on the Pleiades worlds" |
Phi_spiral
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Post Number: 396
Registered: 03-2007
| | Posted on Friday, January 09, 2009 - 08:30 pm: |
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Hi Earthling,
I have a dog myself so I do understand your question. Baseline is essentially correct, though. The Errans do have pets, but the dynamics of their relationship to domestic animals is not the same as here on Earth. They do not “pet” them nor consider them as part of the family. And they are kept in special invested enclosures beyond the human living areas in a more natural environment. It is more like a zoo for domestic animals. And wild animals they do not enclose at all.
Keinerlei Haustiere werden verhätschelt und wie Familienmitglieder angesehen oder behandelt; folglich ist es auch verpönt, Tiere zu liebkosen, zu küssen, in die menschlichen Wohnräumlichkeiten oder gar mit ins Bett usw. zu nehmen. p.217, Aus den Tiefen...
My rough, unofficial translation:
"No domestic animals (pets) are pampered nor looked at or treated as members of the family; consequently it is also considered unacceptable to caress animals, to kiss, to take into the human residential rooms or allowed in the bed."
As to your original question, I have not come across any information yet as to their average lifespan, but since the living environment on Erra is more healthy all around and the Plejarens have managed to eradicate cancer, a leading cause of death in dogs, it is probably the case that the dogs there have a longer healthier average lifespan.
Regards
Bob |
Cpl
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Post Number: 412
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, January 10, 2009 - 07:21 am: |
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We know that here on earth dogs can have beneficial effects on reforming criminal behavior and, of course, they are immensely helpful for the blind and others with certain problems and difficulties.
So there are more uses for pets in our society at present. The Plejaren do not have to contend with these problems that dogs (and presumably cats too) help earth humans overcome.
Kind regards,
Chris |
Phi_spiral
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Post Number: 397
Registered: 03-2007
| | Posted on Saturday, January 10, 2009 - 11:02 am: |
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Not only that Chris, but the Plejarens have long ago seized hunting for game, so they have no need for hunting dogs, tracking dogs, scent dogs, etc., all of which forged a special bond between man and dog. Nor do they have a need for watch dogs, sleigh dogs, and sheep dogs.
Regards
Bob |
Joe
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Post Number: 37
Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Monday, January 12, 2009 - 01:40 pm: |
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Do the Plejarens have the capability to manipulate a spirit so that it reincarnates sooner rather than later or vice-versa? |
Syn
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Post Number: 120
Registered: 04-2007
| | Posted on Monday, January 12, 2009 - 04:24 pm: |
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ofcourse look at billys spirit
They must find it difficult...Those who have taken authority as the truth, rather then the truth as the authority
-Gerald Massey
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Edward
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Post Number: 1284
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, January 15, 2009 - 04:21 am: |
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Hi Joe.....
Well, not the Plejarans directly, though!
They can require a - request -, for a certain Spirit-form to reincarnate at a
special time, or directly/contemporary.
There has been the case, mentioned: after Plejos left Earth, and the relation to
Jmmanuel...as example. And surely, the case has been so...in ancient times,
afar; if necessity need to be.
So, the Plejarans(Material format) have to forward the request first, and than
this going through the proper channels, if you will, and which reaches the
AA(Spirit format), and from there on...on Voluntary bases, a highly evolved
Spirit-form can freely volunteer to reincarnated, once again.
And of course, Billy would also fit into that mentioned scenario. Billy's
Spirit-form was also requested and from Free Will accepted the request to
reincarnated back onto the Earth realm....and bring the Laws of Nature and
Creation, anew...to mankind on Earth.
Edward. |
Joe
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Post Number: 38
Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 21, 2009 - 01:08 pm: |
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Do all Plejaren men have beards? |
Edward
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Post Number: 1290
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, January 25, 2009 - 04:00 am: |
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Hi Joe....
It could and of course, not all of them, perhaps?
Billy did once explain, that the 'beard' can function as a sort of
'receiver/antenna', which of course, may sound somewhat comical, to some
extent. And thus, it seems to have it's advantages.
I think myself, if there is the possibility for such possibility, it would be
wise to let the beard grow and make the best use of it, not?
Than, the Plejarans whom are at the stage of an adult to grow a beard, would
just let it grow, without doubt(?).
Will leave the answer for you to decide for yourself, ok?
The above mentioned was once discussed here, you can look up the details with
the Search Engine, ok?
Edward. |
Joe
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Post Number: 40
Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, February 07, 2009 - 01:35 am: |
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If I'm not mistaken the Plejarens once had a monetary system. Can someone please tell me, if possible, when did the Plejarens eradicate their monetary system? |
J_rod7
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Post Number: 615
Registered: 10-2007
| | Posted on Saturday, February 07, 2009 - 05:10 pm: |
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Hello Joe,
As we know, "the love of money is at the root of all evil." Here on Earth, money represents power, more money = more power, with the concurrent manipulation, corruption of Spirit, greed, the division of people into the 'haves and have-nots.'
The Plejarens eliminated money for these reasons, and the concept of fairness that ALL should be shared EQUALLY with ALL. There are no poor nor rich among them. Such concepts derive from money, of which a more mature civilization has gone beyond the need. We here on Earth will one day learn this lesson, too.
Salome
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You say you want an Evolution, well you know, we're all doing what we can. -(Beatles revamped)
Rod
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Redbeard
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Post Number: 66
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, February 08, 2009 - 08:24 am: |
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The combination of Money, Overpopulation, Genetic Manipulation and Religion definitely combines to cook up a mean and kicking stew.
Matt the Redbeard |
Cpl
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Post Number: 416
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, February 08, 2009 - 08:48 am: |
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Hi Jrod,
It says somewhere in the material that certain Plejaren (Quatzel? Ptaah?) have enormous collections of cars and other things. These appear to be owned by the individuals and not collectively. This could be said to be a very unequal "distribution" of things or goods. This to me makes sense, since all are of different capabilities, even on Erra.
The beamships, we are told, are owned collectively as are basic survival items like shelter, food and clothing, but it seems there are many things that are not. I have seen nothing in the material to suggest that all things are provided equally or collectively owned by all. Since people are at different stages of development and capabilities it would seem reasonable to assume that some are more capable than others and would therefore have more than others. Just as some are more capable of having more wives than others due to their ability to support more wives. This also suggests to me a non-equal state of possessions in an absolute sense.
I invite anyone, however, to further clarify this from the material, if such clarity exists.
Chris |
Joe
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Post Number: 41
Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, February 08, 2009 - 12:02 pm: |
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Have Plejaren couples ever been turned down to have kids because of the risk of overpopulation? |
Borthwey
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Post Number: 70
Registered: 09-2007
| | Posted on Sunday, February 08, 2009 - 03:07 pm: |
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CPL,
that "enormous collection of cars" is in public display. The personal interest of the individual (no one who took part in the contacts) who collected them worked for the benefit of all.
Maybe it's not a matter of ownership, but a matter of use. No matter how much you "have", there is only so much that you can use at a given time. I would say that there is no scarcity, there is no hoarding, their production industries are simply concerned with covering the needs of the whole population, and money wouldn't make any difference to what a person could use.
David Guerra
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J_rod7
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Post Number: 620
Registered: 10-2007
| | Posted on Sunday, February 08, 2009 - 07:33 pm: |
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Hello Joe,
As you may know, the population on Erra is maintained to a total of around 550,000,000.
Facts:
Only couples without any genetic disorders are permitted to procreate and the Population of the planet is carefully controlled. The family structure is Monogamistic and polygamistic - one man to many women (sometimes), Some women are bisexual, and the Divorce rate is zero. The majority of the people live in the countryside or rural areas. The majority of homes are single-family houses that are semi-spherical or spherical in shape with a minimum diameter of 21 metres (69 ft). Each home has sufficient room for family of 5. Each house is built on its own plot of fertile land of at least 1 hectare (2.5 acres). There are many open natural areas, and, together with the large crop farms, makes the entire planet seem like a park with much diversity. There are no roads either to 'cut through' any of the lush landscape. The air, water, streams and lakes, and the soil are all free of any pollution.
-source: www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Erra
Salome
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You say you want an Evolution, well you know, we're all doing what we can. -(Beatles revamped)
Rod
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Cpl
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Post Number: 417
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Monday, February 09, 2009 - 07:37 am: |
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David,
It is "a matter of ownership" we are discussing not one of use. The exampled collection of all cars produced on earth are probably not going to be used by the Plejaren. They don't have roads. It is obviously a collection and may well be in or for public view, rather like a museum or show just like some on earth (though we do not know for sure because that information is not available as far as I know).
The way it is written up in the material clearly indicates that these do belong to one of the Plejaren contacting Billy, and I'm sorry I cannot find the exact wording for you, but in English it reads quite clearly that way.
Could you point to where it says, that "The personal interest of the individual (no one who took part in the contacts) who collected them worked for the benefit of all" because what I read did not have those words.
Again we are not discussing "use" we are discussing different people having different things, or whether everybody has absolutely everything the same, rather like perhaps a group of androids might.
The Plejaren don't have money, but from what I've read they clearly have things, and different things. They don't all have the same size of home which starts at 21 meters diameter e.g., though they probably do not have the diverse range of sizes we have on earth. They may have a size for what they need, and that need would probably depend upon how productive or accomplished they are in their life. These elements will always differ for humans.
We are aware of the production and distribution of goods as that is covered in the material. It is what the Plejaren have personally and how that differs among them that is vague and not clearly addressed, at least not in what I remember reading over the years.
Best,
Chris |
J_rod7
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Post Number: 624
Registered: 10-2007
| | Posted on Monday, February 09, 2009 - 03:16 pm: |
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*******
Hello Chris,
The Plejarens on Erra have applied the LOGIC of:
From Each according to their Abilities,
To Each according to their Needs.
Salome
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You say you want an Evolution, well you know, we're all doing what we can. -(Beatles revamped)
Rod
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