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Michael_horn
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Posted on Monday, July 25, 2011 - 08:13 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Joe,

That's a very good, clean and clear communication, go for it.

Thanks,

MH
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Joe_ottawa
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Posted on Monday, July 25, 2011 - 09:24 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I was reading more on tht Center of Inquiry site and found this. You will notice one of their guest speakers is James Randi, was he not one of the people that were attacking Billy's authenticity? Not to be judgemental but doesn't he go against the grain of "Evidence - based Reasoning in which humans work together to address common concerns".

Copied from the New Generation of Critical Thinkers at Camp Inquiry 2011.


Along with sunshine-filled days, campers will enjoy unparalleled access to scholars and educators who will provide them with tools to discover truth and meaning in the world. Grounded in the conviction that it is possible to establish habits of a good, thoughtful, and ethical life early on, each speaker will focus on critical thinking within his or her area of expertise. Special guest speakers include Ronald A. Lindsay, president and CEO of CFI; Michael Cardus, founder of Create-Learning; 2009 Freethought Heroine Jennifer Michael Hecht; pseudoscience demystifier James Randi, and blogger Rebecca Watson (For a listing of all guest speakers, please click here).
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Eddieamartin
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Posted on Monday, July 25, 2011 - 02:20 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Regardless
of how many debunkers have appeared on a program,
let us keep the following in mind...

"There is no truth except for the one that actually exists." (Billy Meier)

Salome,
Eddie
[7:-)
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Markcampbell
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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2011 - 10:19 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Magician Randi tries to make the truth dissappear .
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Ramirez
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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2011 - 05:23 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Plus also various religious leaders, bankers, politicians, financiers, proponents of armed conflict, industrial polluters, deluded scientists, the corporate mass media and lastly but not least those individuals who unquestioningly accept views, assessments, interpretations, instructions which the previous list offers.

With the world as it is it's comfortably expedient to let some things go, sit this one out, let others take the load but then what about those who say no you cant, this is your chance, you'll always be sorry later if you kept quiet, there's never a good occasion for keeping your mouth shut and keyboard covered.
Cheers.
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Tameralc
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Posted on Wednesday, July 27, 2011 - 10:01 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Michael,

This is what I plan to send to Point of Inquiry. Please let me know if you have suggestions. Thanks, Tammy

Dear Point of Inquiry:

I am very excited to offer a suggested guest for your program. Your on-fire, controversial program topics are a perfect, spot-on fit with the Billy Meier Case of Switzerland. I have been following this case for several years and find the extensive material which includes, authentic UFO evidence, predictions and prophecies, numerous books and writings to be nothing short of thought-provoking, self-questioning and belief-shattering. The Meier material brings forth logical, hard and fast truths about reincarnation, Jesus Christ, UFO’s, Bigfoot, etc. and so much more. Are these the topics you wish to present to the discerning, intelligent listeners of your program? If so, the guest I am suggesting you interview is Michael Horn, the authorized representative for Billy Meier. His website is theyfly.com and his email is michael@theyfly.com.

Thank you for your time. I hope you can accommodate this suggestion.

Sincerely,

Tammy Chavarria
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Michael_horn
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Posted on Thursday, July 28, 2011 - 03:27 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wow Tammy et al,

You and a few more these people here are good at this and the time is right to start applying your talents to making the case known in a nice, non-invasive way. Love this approach, go for it.
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Mahigitam
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Posted on Wednesday, August 24, 2011 - 07:07 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Billy Meier UFO case - Guido Lectures+Karl Korff-Jim Dilettoso debate+MUFON+Other(Rare)
http://1337x.org/torrent/235082/Billy-Meier-UFO-case-Guido-Lectures-Karl-Korff-Jim-Dilettoso-debate-MUFON-Other-Rare/

1: AUDIO:

a - BILLY" EDUARD ALBERT MEIER – Guido Moosbrugger Lectures Vol. 1-4 (rare, out-of-print audio cassettes > CD-R > MP3 files @320kbps)
b - 21st Century Radio(October 22, 1989 ), Dr. Bob Show with Dr. Bob Hieronimus – guest speaker Dave Trepas, Prof. Deardorff
c - Jim Dilettoso vs. Kal Korff: the Billy Meier Debate

2: E-Book: The Pleiadian Mission - Randolph Winters

3: MUFON + Internet Articles on the Billy Meier case
Even as those who appreciate beauty are artists in a degree, so also those who recognize the prophets are prophets of a kind - S.Radhakrishnan
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Mahigitam
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Posted on Wednesday, August 24, 2011 - 10:19 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Billy Meier UFO case - 21st Century Radio, Guest speaker-Dave Trepa
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NFXpitlQVw

Billy Meier UFO case - 21st Century Radio, Guest Speaker-James Deardorff
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pv2qcVZEFxk

Billy Meier UFO case - Guido Moosbrugger Lectures, 1994 - Vol 1,2,3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaZs6YZeUCE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yWSRx77KeI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_FMU-0EC54

Billy Meier UFO case Debate - Jim Dilettoso vs. Kal Korff
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1Mkl6OAhIs
Even as those who appreciate beauty are artists in a degree, so also those who recognize the prophets are prophets of a kind - S.Radhakrishnan
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Elreyjr
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Posted on Wednesday, August 24, 2011 - 06:06 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Greetings,

zero result when you search Trepas in the forum. do anyone know his participation in the forum, if any? why do we not hear about him and his activities for the mission during the last two years? has it anything to do with authority from BEAM, as he was distributing FIGU materials?

Jun
My will be done
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Mahigitam
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Posted on Friday, August 26, 2011 - 10:29 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Photos from my new book - Spaceships of the Pleiades - Karl Korff

https://picasaweb.google.com/112176728925059426265/SpaceshipsOfThePleiadesKarlKorff?authuser=0&authkey=Gv1sRgCIrgwfjgwJbZrgE&feat=directlink

Is this an ET Craft photographed by Billy?
https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/U42AxSMexB4NJG_aeNjqJSS6UWeQcOknqxdyNolIGcg?feat=directlink
Even as those who appreciate beauty are artists in a degree, so also those who recognize the prophets are prophets of a kind - S.Radhakrishnan
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Edward
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Posted on Sunday, August 28, 2011 - 01:53 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Mahigitam....


Yes, good question!

To difficult to determine...seeing how poor the quality is. Looks like a
drawing, which it may not be. Looks like a picture scan or copied from a copy
machine? Which would result is such bad image resolution?

I never seen this one before.


Edward.
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Mahigitam
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Posted on Sunday, August 28, 2011 - 04:13 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Download - The Meier Incident: The Most Infamous Hoax In Ufology(1981)
Kal K. Korff with the editorial assistance of William L. Moore.

[1981, W.L. Moore Publications & Research; out-of-print, 2nd generation copy, searchable PDF]
http://sinkfullofdishes.wordpress.com/2011/02/12/the-meier-incident-the-most-infamous-hoax-in-ufology/
Even as those who appreciate beauty are artists in a degree, so also those who recognize the prophets are prophets of a kind - S.Radhakrishnan
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Smukhuti
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Posted on Sunday, August 28, 2011 - 06:42 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Never seen that particular photo before. A flying NASCAR. Is it really shot by Meier?
"The flower which is single need not envy the thorns that are numerous." - Tagore
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Mahigitam
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Posted on Sunday, August 28, 2011 - 07:09 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Photos taken from Kal Korff's 1981 book
https://picasaweb.google.com/112176728925059426265/TheMostInfamousHoaxInUfology?authuser=0&authkey=Gv1sRgCKrx9ITyovLpOg&feat=directlink
Even as those who appreciate beauty are artists in a degree, so also those who recognize the prophets are prophets of a kind - S.Radhakrishnan
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Michael_horn
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Posted on Tuesday, August 30, 2011 - 05:51 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

New press release:


National Geographic Article, New Science Journal Study Confirm Billy Meier Information on Prehistoric Humans

http://www.prweb.com/releases/2011/8/prweb8755972.htm
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Dez
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Posted on Tuesday, August 30, 2011 - 10:25 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Michael,

I think all that corroberated Meier material is important for people to see. Why don't you have a link to all that corroberated material on your home page so its easier for people to find?
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Michael_horn
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Posted on Wednesday, August 31, 2011 - 08:13 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Dez, just did.

Also, please see - and feel free to refer to:

http://www.prweb.com/releases/2011/8/prweb8755972.htm
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Edward
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Posted on Sunday, September 04, 2011 - 01:26 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Michael....


Yes: Excellent reference!

That should get the ball rolling.....: NO Debunker can top that....!!


Edward.
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Edward
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Posted on Sunday, September 04, 2011 - 01:20 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Smukhuti....


Yes: Transformers....:-)

Perhaps, there are similar type of crafts....


Edward.
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Historeed
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Posted on Tuesday, September 06, 2011 - 10:00 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Apparently, the "debunker" Derek Bartholomaus is still hard at work...Here's something I just came across on a google search:
"On Friday, September 2, 2011 at 5:30 PM in Hilton Hotel Meeting Room 205/206/207, Derek Bartholomaus will be presenting an overview of his involvement in the Billy Meier UFO Case. Throughout the years claims have been made by Billy Meier, and his supporters, that Derek has successfully shown to be inaccurate. For example, Meier claims to have predicted an accident at a nuclear power station in France in 2003 that shut down the reactor. Derek was able to show that, not only was there no accident at the power station, the reactor was not shut down.

One of the highlights that will be discussed at Dragon*Con concerns the work conducted by Phil Langdon, from the United Kingdom, who has been able to successfully recreate all of the various Billy Meier photographs and movies. His reproduction work is so accurate that it also finally answered a thirty-year-old question about the case. This answer, and much more, will be discussed at Dragon*Con 2011 on Friday, September 2 at 5:30 PM in Hilton Hotel Meeting Room 205/206/207 in Atlanta, Georgia.

The Billy Meier UFO Case is the home of the research conducted by Derek Bartholomaus into the alleged extra-terrestrial contacts of Eduard Albert “Billy” Meier. Visit our website at http://www.BillyMeierUFOCase.com or call (323) 364-2596."
Matthew Reed
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Justsayno
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Posted on Tuesday, September 06, 2011 - 07:08 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Matthew, by Phil Langdon's own claim, he's only been able to reproduce a couple, the ones at Ober-Sadelegg and Hasenbol. His answer to the 30 year old question is that he claims Billy used what is called "depth of field". He also claims to have over 2,000 of Billy's photos (someone may want to let Quetzal know). Although Phil says KKK is a good journalist he also admitted that KKK assumed many things. Phil has yet to reproduce any photos which does not have trees so he can attach his fishing line.
Good, better, best. May you never rest, until your good is better, and your better best.
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Teesoft
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Posted on Wednesday, September 07, 2011 - 01:30 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Let anyone write anything about the Meier case cus they are deluded and cant see the truth for themselve,Billy or the Plejarens are not one of their imaginary God who claim to be perfect and nice God yet cannot tell them they have overpopulation problem and many other problems,their nice and imaginary God is just sitting up there watching as they self destruct if not for Meier and the P's...... i went thru the dragon con guy nonsense on the billumeiercase website few days ago and saw the france nucluear plant and the asteriod aphophis like our scientist call it and regarding Michael Horn on Third World War....logically looking at everything on their claim u will see simply it does not precide any logic, cus a few prophesy did not happen out of all countless that have come true. Let them remember Billy gave alot of info that can never have been known by him if he was not in contact with the P's e.g dark energy and lot more which look took our scientist about 22 years to discover.... Lets wake up please no one can claim Meier is hoax only if they are blind or sick like this individuals

Salome!
Tosin

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