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Pathfinder
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Posted on Monday, January 05, 2009 - 06:43 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Bob,

I have copied all of this amazing effort you have placed in here and have up to part 5. I hope that you will be able to continue with part 6.

I have not begun to read it yet as I have just now discovered it, but I would like to interrupt for one pause to ask you what book this is from, and to also ask you if you are as informed about the blue skinned people that Billy has spoken of. I am trying to gather all the information I can on them, or any other ET races that may possibly still be on the earth at present, and would appreciate anything you can offer.

Thank you again for your efforts,

Sincerely,
Hunter
"Therefore nothing may mislead him to un-truth and falseness, because his entire BEING is in the creational cognition of infinite truth."
Contact 18:62
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J_rod7
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Posted on Monday, January 05, 2009 - 04:32 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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Thank You Bob...
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You say you want an Evolution, well you know, we're all doing what we can. -(Beatles revamped)
Rod
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Phi_spiral
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Posted on Monday, January 05, 2009 - 09:45 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Hunter

The majority of the information is from Billy’s book, Aus den Tiefen des Weltenraums ...Kontakte mit den Plejadiern/Plejaren (From The Depths of Space...Contact With The Plejaren). The format of the book is a bit similar to the format of Guido Moosburger’s book, And Still They Fly. In fact, Guido covers some of the same material. However, in Aus den Leben..., Billy goes into much more detail in certain topics such as Plejaren life on Erra, how hyperspace leaps occur, galactic history, etc.

Billy does not mention the blue skinned specifically in the book. But he does say that the Lyraner/Veganer who did come to earth were a mixture of various skin colours and sizes. Also, in Aus den Tiefen… and in the OM, a nuclear war is described, the result of Lyraner power struggles, which may be the same nuclear war described in Mahabharata where the blue-skinned are generously described.

In the Indian epic, Krishna, appears as a major character overseeing the great battle and is described as a blue-skinned warrior-god. Sudeshna speaks of Draupadi’s beauty, “Your dark blue skin sets off your black eyes like the setting of a jewel.” The blue-skinned Vishnu, rides Garuda, the sacred bird.

And then there’s the epic battle sequences which describe high technological weapons, "Gurkha, flying a swift and powerful vimana (fast aircraft) hurled a single projectile (rocket) charged with the power of the Universe (nuclear device). An incandescent column of smoke and flame, as bright as ten thousand suns, rose with all its splendor.” And Shiva, the destroyer, gained prominence by destroying the city of demons which rotated in the air. In one version, he pierced all three cities with one arrow (laser).

Quite possibly it is the same long conflict in which the cities we know today as Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed by nuclear explosions and which were inhabited by the old Lyraner. Such a conflict may have been the impetus of why the blue race began to live underground in the first place.

Finally, we come back to one of Billy’s statements from Contact 251, where he says that all humans on Earth originated from the same, single Ur-stock. The single Ur stock was created by Henok and branched into two main groups, the Sirians and the Lyraner/Veganer, which is where my galactic history summary first began.

Contact 251:
Billy- "In my 23 pages, I forgot to mention also that the terrestrial beings were actually one single race during Henok’s ancient times. From this one race other races formed due to climatic and atmospheric changes, and splits and created new breeds once again. Over the course of time, not only did the skin color of humans change but also their outward appearance, yet always in tune with the new surroundings, new living conditions and other influences. This, of course, resulted in genetic changes in addition to those changes produced by the genetic manipulations. However, the changes were not significant enough for the original and basic link not to remain evident that all humans on Earth originated from the same, single Ur-stock. Hence, when the humans from the Lyra regions and other locations interbred with the early emigrants, respectively their descendants nearly 190,000 years ago on Earth, the cycle was complete among people of the same stock. And then, when the peoples separated again in large spurts, and the most diverse regions of the Earth were newly inhabited, further changes in skin color, outward appearance and genes transpired again. This time, too, the Ur-breed remained intact, and it can be genetically proven that the terrestrials originated from a single Ur-race."


Regards
Bob
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Behzad
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Posted on Tuesday, January 06, 2009 - 01:46 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello Phi_Spiral and very thanks for you amazing explanation

Be good Indeed
Salome Friends
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Phi_spiral
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Posted on Tuesday, January 06, 2009 - 10:41 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

(Please note: This is a continuation of my posts #382, #384, #386, #388 and #392 previously in this section regarding galactic history, and should be considered Part 6.)


According to OM, Kanon 20, verse 95, there were six earth prophets that preceded BEAM as part of the Henok/Nokodemion lineage:

(1)Henoch or Enoch (February 3, 9308 BC) followed by (2)Elja (February 5, 891 BC) then (3)Isaiah (February 7, 772 BC) and (4) Jeremja (February 9, 662 BC), then (5) Jmmanuel (February 3, 0002) and then (6) Mohammed (February 19, 571) in direct sequence and constant rebirth of the same spirit form.

However, elsewhere in OM, Kanon 31, there is the following passage which at first seems contradictory:

564. Also ratgebete der JHWH, dass da sei gezeuget durch seinen Anführer Gabriel mit einem irdischen Weibe ein Nachkomme, der da alsbald sei belehret durch ihn und seine Weisen und dessen Form des Geistes sei einer der ihren, also der Weithergereisten aus den Tiefen des Universums.
So by recommendation of the JHWH, there should be a descendant generated by its leader Gabriel with an earth woman, for him to immediately teach his ways and his form of spirit was one of theirs, one who traveled from the far depths of the universe.

565. Also war gezeuget durch Gabriel und geboren durch das irdische Weib Sarana der Henok, der da belehrte die Menschenkinder der Erde und der also lebete 366 Jahre.
So there was generated by Gabriel and born by the earth woman Sarana, Henok, to teach there the human children of the earth and lived 366 years.


Even though Henok is not listed as one of the seven earth prophets from the earlier passage in OM, Henok and not Henoch, was the first prophet on the earth and it was he who brought a lot of knowledge and wisdom to humanity on earth at that time, which was approximately 389,000 years ago. Henok was the offspring of the JHWH leader, Gabriel, and an Earth woman, Sarana. His teachings however, along with the teachings of his apprentices, were falsified to the point of being unrecognizable and only a scant amount of truth was delivered. p. 204 *

To clear up a lot of confusion among students of the material regarding the prophets Henok and Henoch, Hans-Georg Lanzendorfer sat down with Billy and the interview that transpired was recorded by Hans in his post #831, on the German forum. The following is a summary:

It is now known that the modern mission was started with Nokodemjon some 12 billion years ago on a very far-away world of a distant galaxy. Even the basic lessons of the spirit and humanities, as well as their teaching symbols, lead back to Nokodemjon, and later to the personalities of Henok. With the first appearance of Nokodemjon some 12 billion years ago, the so-called "Old Time" began. During the following 4 billion years, Nokodemjon appeared several times in an unknown number of different personalities, but with the same name to its mission. About 8 billion years ago, his spirit was no more as Nokodemjon, but was reborn for the first time in a man named Henok. This Henok still lived on a faraway planet in a distant galaxy and created a new people which we now call the Henok lineage, and in this role as Henok justified the mission. This same spirit form last appeared as the name Henok on earth some 389,000 years ago. And then around 13,500 years ago, appeared for the first time with the modified form of the name Henoch (Enoch), and is the first prophet of the so-called “Later Time”. **

So the first prophet Henoch (Enoch) of the “Later Time” appeared around 13,500 years ago in the territory of Uruk in Iraq, which places him in the same location and time-frame that Semjasa created Adam. This was followed by two other prophetic personalities named Henoch, so that on February 3, 9308 BC, was born the Henoch that is most associated with “the mission”. It should be noted, however, that the prophets of the same name are not counted by all their earthly incarnations, but rather only once, hence the three appearances of Henoch will be evaluated as only one in a question, because only one Henoch’s mission is directly responsible for the earth people while in the other two lives, its mission was not as direct, as was also the case with Henok and Nokodemion before.**

The actual task of the mission then has lasted about 12 billion Earth years. For the earth people, this is an incredibly long and seemingly endless period. To explain things in human understanding then is the fact that both names, Henok and Nokodemion, in the context of billions of years-long, appeared in several different personalities but with the same name. In addition, the original name Henok over billions of years changed to Henoch (Enoch).**

Next in part 7, the Destroyer.

Regards
Bob

* Aus den Tiefen des Weltenraums
**Hans-Georg Lanzendorfer, FIGU, after a conversation with 'Billy' Eduard Albert Meier (BEAM) April 30, 2004
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Creational
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Posted on Wednesday, January 07, 2009 - 06:11 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dear Bob,

Thank you for this great review.

Salome
Zhila,


Thank you Billy.
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Syn
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Posted on Thursday, January 08, 2009 - 06:38 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

has anyone heard of james randi? hes a klead paranormal investigator. i was wondering if billy was up for it to show him a simple small trick using spiritual energies. if it astounds james randi he has a check waiting for like 30+ years waiting in the bank for 1 million dollars. it sure could be useful. i dont know what shape bvilly meier is in so maybe hes not up for it??who knows maybe ask christian freigner if it appeals to billy meier. i was talking to james randi he said he would love to check out billy and see ifmy claims were true.

just something to pass by
They must find it difficult...Those who have taken authority as the truth, rather then the truth as the authority

-Gerald Massey
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Michael
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Posted on Thursday, January 08, 2009 - 08:51 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Regarding James Randi, several years ago he claimed that Meier hoaxed his evidence...then he RETRACTED his claim, which by any real ethical standards would have compelled him to send Meier a check.

Randi is connected to CFI-West and IIG and Derek Bartholomaus, who I have so severely trounced that he's now resorted to falsifying my emails, really. Visit my site and read the articles about the skeptics there. I will be back from Arizona next week if you want further info.

But one thing is absolutely beyond dispute, ALL of the professional skeptics who claimed that Meier had hoaxed his material and that they could duplicate it, etc., have FAILED. I will also elaborate on why Randi really would be honor bound to pay up...if he had any honor.
Michael Horn
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Bronzedesk
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Posted on Tuesday, January 27, 2009 - 04:34 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Regarding Post #394 when and how did Semjaza fit into all of this? It almost sounds as if he could have been Gabriel or associated with him in somehow or someway? And whatever, happened to the puppy?
First you forget names, then you forget faces. Next you forget to pull your zipper up and finally, you forget to pull it down. George Burns
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Phi_spiral
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Posted on Tuesday, January 27, 2009 - 08:28 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi BD

Semjasa and Gabriel lived in two different time periods. And the puppy? The puppy grew up to have a litter and became the first dogma.

;-)
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Phi_spiral
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Posted on Tuesday, January 27, 2009 - 08:41 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

(Please note: This is a continuation of my posts #382, #384, #386, #388, #392 and #394 previously in this section regarding galactic history, and should be considered Part 7.)

The escape from the Sirius region by the Genmanipulierten (gene manipulated) with the aid of the Wohlgesinnten (well-wishers/Sirius benefactors), lasted very long and stretched more than many thousands of years, before the refugees, who were steadily rushed by their pursuers, the Siriusgebieten (Sirius Command), could finally retreat from their reach and find the suitable hiding place in the SOL system. This exodus period which was mostly spent in the spaceships, extended all over the galaxy during which revolts and struggles for power continuously broke out, the result of which the knowledge as to the origin of their genetic-manipulation got lost, and awful dramas occurred even which eventually led to cannibalism breaking out and spreading to all the spaceships.

However, the in-fighting had begun even before leaving Sirius. The Wohlgesinnten had actually been split into two parties, those who believed that the Genmanipulierten should be finally killed and those who believed they should simply be exiled. The two parties fought in hard battles of words and accusations, until yet other intelligent beings of the Sirius areas interfered to support the party that supported the killing of the Genmanipulierten. However, the true well-wishers, the homicide opponents, succeeded in spite of many countermeasures of the homicide-willing in saving large numbers of the genetic-manipulated in several groups by escape and, as already explained, two nations were settled beyond the sun on the other side of the galaxy, while the remaining people eventually settled on Mars and on Malona, and several thousand degenerating Genmanipulierten were abandoned on the earth. p.301*

There were five races of the Genmanipulierten which fled to Mars and to Malona/Phaeton and another two different races of the Wohlgesinnten came that were not genetic-manipulated and showed no changes in the genetic code. Both of these races were benevolent toward the Genmanipulierten and helped them escape but nonetheless had their own reasons for wanting to leave the Sirius region. They themselves came from two different planets in the Sirius areas which had become overcrowded, and a genital ban was in effect there in which all children were killed who were born in violation of the ban, while the responsible parents were sterilized and sent into exile. p.305*

As was previously explained, two planets were suited in the SOL system for the refugees: Mars and Malona/Phaeton. The earth was still rather inhospitable, and, the atmosphere was such that it was rather unhealthy for the human life forms at that time from the Sirius areas, which is why on this planet only those Genmanipulierten were put out who became aggressive and evil. However, even today the air on Earth does not correspond fully to the norm of the human respiratory need. p.301*

On Mars and on Malona, the Genmanipulierten and the Wohlgesinnten developed over the course of time a technical culture of high standing but which could only be temporary. Even then the Wohlgesinnten knew that these settlers could not remain for good in this solar system, but one day would have to move away again because the sun of this wide-remote system was already a dying star which had been so selected, because the Sirius intelligence and the creator-overlords would not suspect that the area of a dying sun was selected for a new settlement for the “degenerates” and “God's Workers” (referring to the Wohlgesinnten) as they were called by the creator-overlords. P.301*

As time passed the scientists of Mars and Malona/Phaeton found out that the SOL system was even more unsafe than was originally assumed, because many comets as well as meteors endangered both of the new settlements again and again, and several times falling to the surface causing immense damage as well as destroying countless human lives. Even more distressing, a great travelling planet was discovered which had an unusually large orbit and a gravitational pull that extended to the extreme planets far outside of the solar system. Their astronomers calculated that this great heavenly body threatened to collide with the planet Mars or to at least destroy it by a near collision such that all life on the planet would be completely annihilated including flora and fauna as well as human life. The destructive traveling planet became referred to as the Destroyer.

And so the descendants of the Genmanipulierten were advised by the scientists to give up their place of exile on Mars as it was still considered as such because they were still aware of the threat of a pursuit, however, by this time after so many thousands of years, the source of the threat had become unclear to them and there was much confusion surrounding the origins of their original danger. P.306*

Next in part 8, the Destroyer rips through the SOL system.

Regards
Bob

* Aus den Tiefen des Weltenraums
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J_rod7
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Posted on Tuesday, January 27, 2009 - 09:54 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

***

Thank you again, Bob

Your posting of this History is APPRECIATED

***
You say you want an Evolution, well you know, we're all doing what we can. -(Beatles revamped)
Rod
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Creational
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Posted on Tuesday, January 27, 2009 - 10:02 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dear Bob,

This is great. Thanks.

Salome
Zhila,


Thank you Billy.
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Bronzedesk
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Please Bob,

Forgive me for the 80's dialog but I know that you're currently on to something great here with the history but I have and itch that needs to be scratched (No pun intended, perhaps a dogma!)

All I know is that he was a Seraphim Colonel hand picked by whoever was in charge at that time with two other's to undo what had been done wrong. Some say that he was the reincarnation of someone really big back in the Lyra/Vegan times. But there were rumors that he gave away some pretty important information about the why's and wherefore's of the mission to a woman and supposedly was punished or disappeared! Is this true or false and is there something more to it! I understand that after the flood he ended up on Atlantis doing more experiments and when Atlantis sank he ended up in the Norway area being involved with the beginnings of the Teutonic races, kind of classified a god at the time by the locals (Odin) but Odin's story talks of downfalls, one eye and Valkyries, etc, which I kind of figure mean't that he still had a eye for the ladies and was still involved in manipulation's!

While I was stationed in Germany, Muenster West I was about 50 clicks away from the true Liebensborn (Hitler's try at selective gene manipulation), How and why would Hitler fit into this scheme? Plus, I kind of feel that if Semyasa did get caught up in the Reincarnational Cycle here on earth, what would be his purpose for being awakened now, with this so called 2012 thing? Is there a part to be played or would it be just a cruel joke for an old seraphim who supposedly screwed up (another, pun! not intended)! Sounds like I know it all, but by all the YHWH I sure in the h**l don't!

Thank you for listening to this, Can you help me???

Mat ;)

p.s. and what do the numbers 333 mean (quote: Tell my team 333?) Is it a wakeup call, or something else?
First you forget names, then you forget faces. Next you forget to pull your zipper up and finally, you forget to pull it down. George Burns
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Scott
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Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2009 - 10:56 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mat,

The spirit form of Semjasa is currently incarnated and is working for the mission. BTW, it is a different spirit form than Gabriel.

Scott
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Stephen_moore
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Hi all

It is clear to me that the more you look into and read the information from Mr Meier and our space friends the more you realise how much you dont know. I explain that-

I have been reading any information I can get from Mr Meier's mission for about 3 years now and I read it and try to understand it. Some of the information becomes clear. Other time it need 2 or more re-reads to try and understand.

Then once you think or do understand then other questions come into being and I find myself needing answer to many more questions relating from the information.

These questions are not questions against the information or anything trying to debunk the truth. More questions that arise from the information which the information leads to. for example regard to the Absolutem and other Creations.

The thing that really "bakes my cake" is that of what is beyond the Absolutem and what created the Absolutem. And even more so what created the thing or event that created the Absolutem.

I know from reading some of the contact notes that the Plejaren do not know this so it just proves we are all still only Humans and still have much more to learn and much more growing to do.

Thanks for your time
Asket: - The Creation is the basic foundation of life and all existence. In the force of The Creation, we fulfill our mission, which is not only of cosmic, but all-universal importance, because The Creation IS the life, and The Creation IS the existence
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Borthwey
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Scott,
In what way way is the current incarnation of the spirit of Semjasa working for the mission?
Where did you get that information?
David Guerra
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Redbeard
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Hello Stephen from the USA,
You are so right about the vastness of the unknowns that we seem to be able to postulate with ease. This is one of the items of life that must be accepted that we really can not know with our limited mental capabilities. It's a bit difficult to accept that we can imagine and formulate answers but are told don't touch that because you can't understand it.

One of the hardest teachings for me was the personal responsibility with the cause and effect law of creation. It is a self honesty issue that requires us to somehow reverse the surgical procedure of Brain Amputation.
Matt
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Michael
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Stephen_moore,

When I asked Billy about what I referred to as the Void in which everything exists (and which is presumably "outside" of the Absolutm, etc.), he said that the human mind could not comprehend it, that even the Plejaren didn't know that much about it. He said that all that was known is that it contains "very fine spiritual energy".

Beyond that there was no information, which will probably never satisfy our human minds.
Michael Horn
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Scott
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Borthwey,

I confirmed the information with one of the Core Group members. Yes it is true, but the information must be kept confidential at this time. This person has been active in the mission for quite some time, but I was asked not to reveal their identity. And has been mentioned more than once, it is not who you were, but who you are now.

Regards
Scott
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Syn
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michael before i forget can you provide more information on james randi and billy meier, i did some google searches and his site but nothing came up.

lets.do.this@live.ca
They must find it difficult...Those who have taken authority as the truth, rather then the truth as the authority

-Gerald Massey
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Michael
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Syn,

Here are some links to articles, mainly from some years ago, that pertain to Randi and his skeptical associates:

http://theyfly.com/PDF/RandiRetractsClaim.pdf

http://theyfly.com/PDF/MichaelAcceptsChallenge.pdf

http://theyfly.com/PDF/PhotoAnalysis2.pdf

http://theyfly.com/PDF/ProfessionalSkeptics.pdf

For more recent articles covering the complete collapse and failure of the skeptics and their challenges, see the articles under The Latest Evidence linked from my home page.
Michael Horn
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Earthling
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Posted on Monday, February 02, 2009 - 02:46 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Michael: Did the Amazing Randi ever cough up the $1,000,000 plus $5,000 to Meier?

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