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    Sitkaa Member Post Number: 145 Registered: 10-2004 |
Howdy all, Perhaps the answer to this question is self-evidently silly, and perhaps not: Is there someplace where at least the rudiments of the universal laws have been written down in either German or in English? Thanks, m Love is always the way | ||
Patm Member Post Number: 18 Registered: 07-2006 |
Sitkaa, They are actually Creational Laws and Recommendations Kelch der Wahrheit(The Goblet of Truth) Already available for FREE use just Please read the licensing/copyright. Document information http://us.figu.org/portal/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=gTgF8e5ugRo%3d&tabid=161&mid=557: PatM | ||
Michael_horn Member Post Number: 138 Registered: 07-2009 |
Sitkaa, Please also visit theyfly for the Spiritual Teaching section, where you may find additional information. | ||
Markcampbell Member Post Number: 343 Registered: 10-2008 |
Hi m ; If you stop and pay attention to all life ,you may notice things that you didn't before . For example , those that stop to pay attention will therefore have more attention to enjoy by the giving . mc | ||
Hector Member Post Number: 551 Registered: 04-2006 |
Hi Sitkaa the socalled Kybalion may not be the document you are looking for, but it correctly describes quite a lot of creational laws. Interesting is, the kybalion was published in 1908. Moderator Phaetonsfire wrote about it 6 years ago: http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/13/3560.html#POST11833 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kybalion | ||
Patm Member Post Number: 20 Registered: 07-2006 |
Question... From the Kelch der Wahrheit Introduction... "The tome comprises a total of 28 chapters." ... "the first 14 chapters from terrestrial storage banks" ... "Only in the cosmic storage banks have their teaching and explanations been retained and stored for all time down to the present day." ... "there had been provision for ages that the spiritual teaching of chapters 15 to 28 should be put into words by the last and seventh prophet" ... "expand the teaching of Nokodemion with his own addition, in which case it was also necessary to write chapters 15 to 20 in an old written language." I am confused with the actual chapters in the Kelch der Wahrheit. I see only 9 chapters. Where are the other 19 chapters? PatM | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 1915 Registered: 12-1999 |
Patm, The other 19 Chapters are still in the process of being translated. There is a thread dedicated to the discussion of Kelch der Wahrheit: http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/2200/9413.html?1264486363#POST46357 scott | ||
J_rod7 Member Post Number: 1154 Registered: 10-2007 |
PatM, The entire 28-chapters are still in German-language, and is available for full download. If you want, I can send a full copy of the German-text K-der-W as an email attachment. just send a request to me at rodnbun@tampabay.rr.com. The remaining English chapters, beyond the current nine, are in process of translation... the translation work has already been paid in-full from our donations, but is a slow process to get every i dotted, every word correct, &c. Peace TRUTH finds WISDOM finds LOVE finds PEACE Find What You Seek ~ Rod | ||
Marbar Member Post Number: 56 Registered: 12-2009 |
About the Creational Commandments, I know we all must live by them. On commandment number 5:Honour Creation just as you honour, respect and love your father and mother. Sometimes parents take advantage of their children. When the parents tell their child to do something that is wrong, the parents know it is wrong and the child knows it is wrong as well and the child refuses to follow the command. Is that breaking the 5th creational commandment? | ||
Edward Member Post Number: 1634 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi Marbar..... Good question, there! Well, in such case the child does NOT have to act within the mentioned Commandment/Recommendation. The child is acting within the framework of - Logic -, "Reasonable...Reasoning", if you will. In this case the child may/can 'refuse'! If the parents do 'no good'...this does not mean the child should do 'no good'! Thus, the child is handling within the framework of - Common Sense, Logic and Reason -; which you may know, is like-wise...within the framework of the Spirit(ual) Teaching(s). The parents are just 'misusing' their status as Adults, and which in NO WAY...can be associated with the 5th Commandment/Recommandation. If you read the other Commandments/Recommendations, you will indeed fine one or two that will fit the mentality of the/these (so-called) parents. Edward. | ||
Davidmg Member Post Number: 29 Registered: 03-2008 |
Honoring your parents also includes correcting them if they are wrongful in their teachings, in a respectful manner. If a child is of better education or knowledge than that of the parents. Then, the child can respectfully show his or hers parents that what they ask of the child is not also in a respectful manner towards the child. Therefore the child can offer an alternate point of view or way of doing what is asked of the child. But then if the child has been brought under too much control since birth, then the child will be in fear of stating his or her own opinion. And therefore may not be willing to accept anything different than what the child has been commanded to do by the parents. This type of commanding attitude from the parents can fall under the category of obedience, which is quite different than to honor and respect. Unfortunately parents allow emotions or past history to dictate authority incorrectly and can let anger be directed at children for no logical reason, which can be confusing to the child. As the saying goes. "The apple does not fall far from the tree." If the tree is full of disease (not at ease) than it will be difficult to grow (teach) a bountiful crop (off spring). David G. | ||
Thomas Member Post Number: 843 Registered: 03-2004 |
A long while ago there was a discussion on whether Creation is fair with everyone and in all ways. I recently read something that, even though it wasn't discussing this topic directly, brought some insight to me. People are really the source of their own injustices (as a group in general). Life can be harsh but the true horrors in life come from us humans toward each other. While there definitely are difficult moments and lessons from life itself (such as the harshness of life in the wild among animals), these serve only to further evolution and even then do not approach the unspeakable terrors man brings on himself and his fellow human being. For example it might seem horrifying that a sick buffalo be eaten alive by predators, and it is, but the animal goes into shock and does not experience this savagery for an extended period before expiring. Man on the other hand has on occasion made an art form of extended torture and cruelty. It is not unheard of on the news that someone has been held captive and tortured for great lengths of time before either being murdered or rescued. My point is not that life is, or should be, easy. It is just that it has become clear to me that Creation/life really is fair to each and every life form but that we ourselves are the ones who are not fair. A baby may be born with a disease and die a terrible death, but this is not because Creation has "done" that to the child. Cause and effect has simply unfolded according to the laws of Creation in its infinite possibilities. Life truly is fair. It is us who are not. patricksdadinfrance@yahoo.com | ||
Kingman Member Post Number: 780 Registered: 07-2004 |
I think applying the term 'fair' to Creation is misleading. Fair depicts a little bit of judgement in some sense. Creation has its unchangeable laws. This alone suggests Creation will never need to make sure everyone is treated in a fair way. Now the term 'balanced' would be closer to an appropriate descriptive than the 'fair', as in fairness. And Thomas is correct in putting humans themselves as the 'unfair' ones tipping the scale one way or the other . a friend in america Shawn | ||
Rarena Member Post Number: 566 Registered: 10-2005 |
Hi Thomas, Have to agree a bit with Shawn on fairness there... (E.G. accidents) occur and how we deal with them is important as well... such as Billy, who lost his arm in a bus accident... Life is not easy for him although he accepts it and thrives with continued production none-the-less. | ||
Redbeard Member Post Number: 179 Registered: 04-2006 |
Dyson, Just wondered about the below comment about moses and as to it's possible reference in the Meier material, could you advise? (Further Reading The Twelve Commandments - Before Moses deleted a couple and corrupted the rest.) Peace be to you, Matt | ||
Gaiaguysnet Member Post Number: 1103 Registered: 03-2004 |
Hi Matt! Could you please elaborate your question a bit? Thanks. :-) Cheers! Dyson |
