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Creational
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Post Number: 359
Registered: 09-2008
Posted on Friday, October 09, 2009 - 12:01 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dear Scott,

Sorry, a correction is in order:
In fact evolution of each, affects the evolution of all.

Love,
Zhila,


Thank you Billy.
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Rarena
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Post Number: 497
Registered: 10-2005
Posted on Friday, October 09, 2009 - 07:19 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Rod,

Hope you're well these days and keeping positive.

Ohhh I see... THIS Universe, I thought you meant FINAL mysteries... beyond Petale in all the levels above that high level...

Zhila, this was a question of mine to Billy and I got the impression the Sohar is not the central sun...

It is my understanding there is expansion and contraction and dissolution and re expansion, I may be wrong. And two spirals? It is seven.

Rather than clearer it appears more confused.

Salome
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Creational
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Post Number: 360
Registered: 09-2008
Posted on Friday, October 09, 2009 - 10:39 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dear Randy,

I apologize if it made matters more confusing. I should not have jumped in the middle of the discussion. I have learned a valuable lesson not to ever do that again. I was merely using the circle analogy to explain the mechanics involved in Creation. By two spirals, I was referring to the double spiral model of the Creation shown by Billy. In fact, my entire analogy was based on the model but used circle in an attempt to simplify.

http://futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Creation#The_Creation

Thanks for clarifying the Central sun and Sohar. However, the point was to use them as example for a starting point in any circle.

Again, sorry for causing the confusion but I suppose, the subject matter being discussed was entirely different from what I understood.

Love,
Zhila,


Thank you Billy.
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Rarena
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Post Number: 499
Registered: 10-2005
Posted on Friday, October 09, 2009 - 02:12 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dear Zhila,

No problem, no need to apologize as I am often wrong but at least we can find the truth...

This data may have come from the Plejaren Federation which this section is supposed to be about.

The Sohar is a type of radiation.

As to the double spiral, it appears mislabeled, it is my understanding that the universe is an interwoven seven spiral, not double...

It is also interesting that this may mimic a chromasome in the microcosm.

As an atom in the microcosm Billy explained to me (via the monthly questions to Billy section of this forum) that... is apparently what we call a galaxy in the macrocosm... so we are all just learning at different rates, yet side by side enjoying the journey with love... wisdom... harmony and peace.

Obama won the Noble... nice. For his ability to change the opinion of foreign countries apparently... very nice. It is just a material prize but the best one in my mind is: Billy thinks he is one of the best choices available.

Salome
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J_rod7
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Post Number: 1059
Registered: 10-2007
Posted on Friday, October 09, 2009 - 02:38 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

*****

Best Greetings All

Zhila,

Jump-in anywhere you like; your comments are always welcome, and do contribute to the process of thinking and contemplation. And we all (including myself) make mistakes from time-to-time, this is a necessary part of our Spiritual Evolution, as we know.

~~~ ~~~ ~~~

Randy, and All ...

Sohar Means "Creation's light" or "Light of BEING".

Source: http://futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/FIGU_-_related_terms#Sohar

~~~ ~~~ ~~~

[ An Important Word
[ "In spite of this circumstance, man is capable of seeing and recognizing his determination as a human being, and he can change the situation and attain an island of Sohar and security from the occurrences of gloominess. The length of time required need not be a worry or concern, because until the highest goal becomes reality, millions and billions of years may have tumbled into the past. Millions and billions of years are accorded and offered to man, to smooth out the crumpled face he had caused his own home planet. Yet, he must be devoted at this time to the change offered to him for intervention in the evolutionary goal, to truly grasp the helping hand and proffered knowledge in truth, and to work toward this goal." ] ---
---"Billy" Eduard Albert Meier

Source:
http://futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/The_Spiritual_Teachings

~~~ ~~~ ~~~

Hide NOT your LIGHT under a basket, for your Spirit brings the Light of the Sohar from Creation into the world, then no darkness can stand before the Light.

Peace Be With You ... Salome

*****

TRUTH finds WISDOM finds LOVE finds PEACE

Find What You Seek ~ Rod
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Joe
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Post Number: 67
Registered: 11-2008
Posted on Monday, October 19, 2009 - 11:25 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Do the Plejaren emit some kind of light from their bodies since they are spiritually more evolved than the typical Earth human being?
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Thomas
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Post Number: 725
Registered: 03-2004
Posted on Tuesday, October 20, 2009 - 05:47 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Joe they do emit light as do we all according to the contact notes. All lifeforms emit biophotons and this of course includes Earth humans and the Plejaren. They do not emit visible light though as was confirmed by BEAM if you check through the Q and A section...
patricksdadinfrance@yahoo.com
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Rarena
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Post Number: 507
Registered: 10-2005
Posted on Tuesday, October 20, 2009 - 07:43 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Joe,

It is my understanding they are like us in every way (slightly different earlobes) yet... consciously/spiritually they are more evolved and their one thousand year life span is indicative of that...

Salome
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Mahigitam
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Post Number: 38
Registered: 02-2009
Posted on Wednesday, October 21, 2009 - 03:19 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

HI Guys,
please take time and answer this silly question which cud be useful to other people like me...

i have wendell stevens contact notes 4 volumes.
i want to know in which year each of the volumes are published with copyrights.
i dont understand this part in the copyrights page of volume 1 contact ntoes which says..

"copyrights 1988,1987,1986,1985,1984,1983,1982,1981,1980 and 1979....."

i think the volume 1 is published first in 1979 and updated information in later years from 1980-1988...
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Thomas
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Post Number: 729
Registered: 03-2004
Posted on Wednesday, October 21, 2009 - 06:21 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Your questioned was already answered by me in another section where you=0Ap= osted the same question Mahigitam!=A0 If you are going to ask the=0Aquestio= n you could at least pay attention when someone is kind enough=0Ato answer = it!!!
patricksdadinfrance@yahoo.com
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Thomas
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Post Number: 730
Registered: 03-2004
Posted on Wednesday, October 21, 2009 - 09:38 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sorry about the random characters that sometimes appear when I respond via email...
patricksdadinfrance@yahoo.com
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Darren
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Post Number: 50
Registered: 07-2009
Posted on Wednesday, October 21, 2009 - 11:46 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Thomas,

Forgive me for asking but why do you always write like 'you=0Ap= osted'? I don't get it, and have been trying to figure out why you do it but can't.
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Mahigitam
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Post Number: 39
Registered: 02-2009
Posted on Wednesday, October 21, 2009 - 12:15 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i am sorry thomas,
but this is the first time i asked this question.and i asked some question in "contact notes" section,which is

"[2] When did meier self-published first german contact reports for distribution?
[3] In which year is the first copyrighted german contact reports came? "

but still didnt get any answer for these questions there.
----------------------------------------------
preliminary investigation report-1982[contains jupiter,2 planets beyond pluto information]
Supplementary Investigation Report-1989
Message from the pleiades vol 1[1-35] -1979
Message from the pleiades vol 2[36-55]-1990
Message from the pleiades vol 3[56-76]-1993
Message from the pleiades vol 4[77-106]-1995
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Thomas
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Post Number: 734
Registered: 03-2004
Posted on Wednesday, October 21, 2009 - 10:00 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Darren I explained this earlier but you may not have seen that post. Unfortunately sometimes when I respond to forum posts via email, those characters appear.

Hi Mahagitam, I am not referring to that post of yours but the post of yours above numbered 38 which I did answer already in another section and addressed it to you :-)

As for requesting help, I addressed that as well. You might keep in mind that if no one answers you then maybe no one has the answers or maybe they just choose not to answer. I don't want to sound harsh but no one is obliged to respond on the forum. Those of us that respond in an attempt to help you or others do so because we want to, not because we must.

Have a great day everyone!

Thomas
patricksdadinfrance@yahoo.com
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Kingman
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Post Number: 678
Registered: 07-2004
Posted on Wednesday, October 21, 2009 - 11:31 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wow Thomas,

I'm glad you have cleared the strange characters in your posts 'mystery'. I was beginning to think I wasn't in on this embedded sekrit knowledge that you seemed to have mastered perfectly. The funny part is....I, uh, might of actually thought that's what it had to be.

(Bell dings!)

Logically, it's due to my hair getting blonder from surfing in the summer, of course.
a friend in america
Shawn
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Darren
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Post Number: 53
Registered: 07-2009
Posted on Thursday, October 22, 2009 - 12:23 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The funny bit is that Thomas's 730 post came down when my question/post did, so I didn't know that he was going to start talking about the very thing (question) i been trying to figure out and wanted to bring up. Perhaps some cosmic connection was at work between us ?
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Ramirez
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Post Number: 327
Registered: 06-2008
Posted on Thursday, November 19, 2009 - 05:55 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Another obscure observation leading to a question which someone might be able to answer.

Is it true that Gabriel from 2000 years ago, (presently Quetzal) the biological father of Jmannuel is also Ptaah's great grandfather ?

Does anyone have information about this or the family tree of various Plejaran personalities involved with the mission.

Quetzal keeps popping up in seemingly strange ways ... to me at least, and after studying many contact reports he appears to be the one closest to Billy in just about everything and there seems to be more happening in the background than is publicly revealed.
Cheers.
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Smukhuti
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Post Number: 113
Registered: 06-2009
Posted on Sunday, December 06, 2009 - 10:02 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Greetings All,

Does anyone know what kind of sports activity the Plejarens engage in? In contact note 443 I read Billy was playing chess with Ptah.

Salome
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Sitkaa
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Post Number: 114
Registered: 10-2004
Posted on Monday, December 14, 2009 - 01:55 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Although I don't know about the sports they play, I have been wondering if the Plejarens practice martial arts, and if so, what kind. For instance, might their martial arts be analogous to Aikido?
Love is always the way
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Darren
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Post Number: 91
Registered: 07-2009
Posted on Monday, December 14, 2009 - 03:47 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sitka, my understanding is that the P's play no sport, except for mind related games like chess (which they learnt from billy and took back to erra)
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Phi_spiral
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Post Number: 470
Registered: 03-2007
Posted on Monday, December 14, 2009 - 08:14 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello Smukhuti and Sitkaa

Of course sport is also pursued by the Plejaren and sport competitions are also organised. However, sport signifies something else for the Plejaren than is the case here on earth. Occupational sport is considered unacceptable and inadmissible as well as any extreme sport. What is regarded as athletic performance, falls within the framework of natural movements that are practiced by everyone in normal daily activities, consequently, in a sports competition all participants have the same chance to win. Sports which are practiced for the purpose of self-affirmation or titillation are considered unacceptable which also applies to extremely dangerous forms as they are pursued here on earth by psychically-ill and consciousness-disturbed show-off addicts, image addicts and danger addicts, etc. who are incapable of bringing the necessary esteem and reverence to life. This is completely different with the Plejaren which hold the value of any life form in high regard and which is why they endanger neither their own nor any other life by extreme and pathological sports, as life represents the most precious property and nothing should alter that. This is not only the view of the Plejaren and all their allies in the federation, but also Billy’s. (source: Aus den Tiefen des Weltenraums, pages 241-242)

That said, my personal opinion is that if a form of martial art was practiced, it would take more the form of tai chi, where natural movements are used without physical contact.

Regards
Bob
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Matthew_justin_deagle
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Post Number: 172
Registered: 05-2009
Posted on Monday, December 14, 2009 - 08:54 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bob,

Tai Chi is described in 'Meditation aus klarer Sicht' as being originally a form of meditation practised by Nokodemjon's folk, having been invented by Nokodemjon himself. Modern Tai Chi is quite different in the individual techniques, though, than his form.

As for martial arts, I assume that the Plejaren do train for combat in many forms. They still must be prepared for encounters with barbarians, etc.

Salome,

- Matthew
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Edward
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Post Number: 1558
Registered: 05-2002
Posted on Tuesday, December 15, 2009 - 03:55 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Bob....


Nice to hear from you, again! You been away...??

Excellently summarized. I too, have been practicing Martial Arts in the past
and indeed, also practiced fighting stances/movements...with a 'ghost-like'
(material-less) participant; and these practices consists of some 50-100
movements(, or more), which One practices by Oneself....similar to the Tai Chi
movements/applications.

This is what I always found fascinating in Kempo, which I practiced. Which is
a: Pure DEFENSE Martial Art. Not, an attack form of Martial Arts. Very
Philosophical and much Wisdom in her applications; within her movements;
within the framework of Meditation.


Edward.

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