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Sitkaa
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Post Number: 199
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, February 21, 2010 - 02:55 pm: | 
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Does anybody ever wonder why our planet's societies have not developed effective social engineering? There is no law against it. So why don't we?
When starting from scratch, it is easiest to develop a society based upon information, something online perhaps. Put together libraries and meeting places, then a market and banking, then offer (researched) suggestions to guide a productive economy and develop a new currency. There can be no enforceable law against doing these things.
Once currency has been untangled from unfair markets, then it is easy to reflect this more fair and efficient society onto the physical landscape, without hurting anyone's feelings or upsetting someone's goose that laid the golden egg. Humanity's social system will balance naturally when it's market system is not based in greed. An additional comment, for those who still want to consider themselves Jewish, in the long term this is probably the best way to not upset the goose.
Sustainability with peaceful coexistant growth is easy to agree to once the markets openly value their continuency. the self-destructiveness of our current society reflects over-competition in how our currency is exchanged for work, but since information exchange would be freed, this should also eventually balance of its own accord.
Love is always the way
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Edward
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Post Number: 1700
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, February 25, 2010 - 01:51 am: |
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Hi Sitkaa...
Nice piece you conjured up there!
Well, first thing is that we are dealing with quite many Low Evolved
Spirit-forms/humans; which does inhibit us from processing what you are
referring to. Mind: the Majority of humans on Earth still obtain a
Consciousness equivalent to one of Medieval times, as the Plejarans made
clear.
Which DOES...explain the situation to some point.
Thus, many are still very Materialistic, Greedy and non True Creational
Spiritual; which is just a Reflection of THIS time of existence.
Man, has to 'Grow Out' of this Illogical predicament he created for himself,
and his fellow human beings.
If I look around me, even in the country I live in, people are still very
Hungry for Materialism, Capitalism in general, and all her Seductions! Only, a
Minority is Truly Social orientated and have insight into True Creational
Principles and her aspects, related.
Will indeed take quite a time before such of today's Materialism Greediness
dissolves, I would say. We just have to take our time. But, of course, it
would be Wisely appropriate to initiate what you mentioned, which is better
than doing nothing at all!
Edward. |
Michael_horn
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Post Number: 161
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 02, 2010 - 07:35 pm: |
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Hi everyone, I really don't know the best place for this, so please feel free to move it.
Okay, please visit http://www.zazzle.com/billyshop/gifts. There are five pages of stuff, with more to come. My film making partner, Jack, and I are doing this with a portion of the proceeds going to support FIGU, with their approval.
We figured we might as well help spread the message in an attractive, eye-catching and utilitarian way, which may provoke conversation and curiosity.
So do feel free to make suggestions, including a saying or phrase from the teaching that is particularly moving.
We may well further the Silent Revolution of Truth...and make a fashion statement at the same time. Considering all of the other things vying for our attention in the world, this may provide an alternative and an antidote.
What do you think?
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Moved to 'New ideas to help the Mission Improve'
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Kingman
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Post Number: 782
Registered: 07-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 02, 2010 - 09:45 pm: |
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Michael,
This is a very good idea, but you could use a little help in your design department. I know several clothing designers(t-shirt specialists) who I could possible get to pull together a few real modern samples that would have a wider appeal to the t-shirt buying crowd.
Also, I think a message that shows our peace sign in its correct position with a short remark of its obvious wrongness in its current form. Something like- Missiles? No, Trees!, or Missiles of Death? or Trees of Life?, or something similar.
a friend in america
Shawn
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Techieatwork
Member
Post Number: 78
Registered: 08-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 02, 2010 - 11:20 pm: |
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Michael:
How about you add the peace symbol
http://theyfly.com/images2/peace_symb_alt2_sm.jpg
as a hearth badge?
would look very nice too, but then, not to make it too overcrowded with many more logos, just something simplistic and nice looking
great idea!!
if you want to choose another logo instead, please feel free, you are free.
Salome
Carlos
(Trying to keep it brief and concise)
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Sitkaa
Member
Post Number: 209
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 03, 2010 - 09:32 am: |
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Michael Horn,
Thanks for following through on a good idea! A couple of quick comments:
1. The prominent "Plejaren Approved" sticker is both intriguing and irritating to me. Intriguing because it implies communication with people from other planets, but irritating because it is also reminiscent of developing a brand name. Perhaps something else, like a signature or universal seal, might avoid the pitfalls of that misconstruance better (or perhaps not). Most likely you have already pondered this already, else the "Plejaren Approved" sticker wouldn't have been part of the picture, but I just wanted to point out how I perceived it.
2. Could you include some reference (however dilute) to the creational/universal laws philosophy? This is one of the reasons we are interacting with Plejarens and other folks. You are more familiar with good quotes on this topic than I, so I will leave that to you. Perhaps you can include a flying saucer design with a creational statement, or perhaps incorporate some fundamental or broad creational statement into a seal applied to every picture, or perhaps something else.
3. In keeping with the creational theme, since you have gone this far with product branding, you might also consider branding tools that are creational in nature, such as art supplies (pencils, paint brushes, stationary) gardening tools, other kitchen utensils, etc. Emphasis on creational tools opens up many possibilities.
Thanks for the work you have done. It is helping us all.
: )
Love is always the way
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Michael_horn
Member
Post Number: 162
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 03, 2010 - 09:42 am: |
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I welcome assistance from designers and I have forwarded the symbol to Jack. I think the Salome symbol wording should probably be short and to the point, i.e. the true peace symbol and the tree of life, etc.
Suggestions very welcome! |
Gaiaguysnet
Member
Post Number: 1026
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 03, 2010 - 05:06 pm: |
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Dear all,
Good onya, MH, for identifying a market! :-)
If people want to be walking billboards, they might as well advertise something more useful that brands of beer and tractors, baseball teams, etc.
(KKK sells kinky underwear with anti-Meier propaganda printed on it.)
So how about a T-shirt, etc. with one of Dejan's sultry images of Semjase printed on it? (& an URL)
;-]
And what % goes to FIGU?
Cheers!
Dyson |
Smukhuti
Member
Post Number: 249
Registered: 06-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 03, 2010 - 07:09 pm: |
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Some of my favourite quotes:
"Blessed are those who are rich in spirit and recognize the truth, for life is theirs." - TJ 5:3
"Humans should look upward to the stars, for majestic peace and grandeur rule there." - TJ 36:2
"Creation is the immeasurable mystery suspended in immeasurable expanse." - Stimme der Wassermannzeit
"7. Heaven and Earth will perish, but truth, knowledge, wisdom and spirit will never perish." - 10th contact
"Wisdom is an elemental, tremendous power.
Wisdom is light." - 10th contact
"What is creative is full of endless peace, full of endless cognition and the most perfect perfection." - 10th contact
A few of them might sound catchy in T-shirts along with commensurating picture. Or in coffee mug.
Salome.
Suv
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Michael_horn
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Post Number: 163
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 03, 2010 - 07:52 pm: |
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The Semjase (and other ET) pics are a great idea but we will check that with FIGU because it could be a little too "personality"/idol based.
I love those quotes, have forwarded them to Jack.
Sure, FIGU gets 33%. |
Michael_horn
Member
Post Number: 164
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 03, 2010 - 08:54 pm: |
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Hi Sitkaa,
The "Plejaren Approved" sticker is a kind of tongue-in-cheek idea, that actually provoked a bit of laughter from Meier.
We are including sayings such as suggested by Smukhuti.
Maybe we can do those other items too, it's just that shirts and mugs, etc. are more commonly seen and we want to put these ideas into the mass consciousness in every way possible. |
Markcampbell
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Post Number: 404
Registered: 10-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 03, 2010 - 11:53 pm: |
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Hi Michael ;
I think it's a great idea . Picking those influencial quotes will be important . maybe a FIGU.org bumpersticker with a lead in quote or short thought would drive some attention to this website .
Mark |
Smukhuti
Member
Post Number: 250
Registered: 06-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, March 04, 2010 - 01:53 am: |
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...or maybe desk calendars. 12 short quotes for 12 months accompanied with pictures. Very short notes about the pictures/2 liner about Meier/FIGU link at the 13th page. Just enough to provoke curiosity. Sure sellouts.
Salome.
Suv
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Stephen_moore
Member
Post Number: 225
Registered: 01-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, March 04, 2010 - 05:00 am: |
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Hi Michael
I have put together a poster at
http://ufofacts.co.cc/Creation%20Poster.jpg
It is just an idea, you can use it or us it and change it.
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Also an idea for a mug could be the Creation picture and on the other side of the mug a few words about Creation.
and/or a picture of the book cover of Goblet of Truth "Kelch der Wahrheit" and on the other side of the mug the words "
*Goblet of Truth*
The book of the entire
Teaching of the Prophets
Teaching of truth, teaching of spirit, teaching of life
from
Henoch (Enoch), Elia (Elijah), Jesaja (Isaiah), Jeremia (Jeremiah), Jmmanuel (Immanuel), Muhammad (Mohammed) and Billy (BEAM)"
Thanks
Website addresses - www.ufofacts.co.cc - www.thecircleforhumanity.net
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Michael_horn
Member
Post Number: 165
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, March 04, 2010 - 08:38 am: |
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Hi Stephen,
I can't get that JPG to load. Can you email it to me and/or make it smaller, etc.?
Thanks for all the suggestions. |
Gaiaguysnet
Member
Post Number: 1027
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, March 04, 2010 - 02:30 pm: |
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Thanks Michael!
33% is wonderfully generous, and I think you should let your potential customers know that the "a portion of the proceeds go to FIGU" claim is not just another sleazy stunt, as I'm sure it is in most commercial exercises, where "a portion" is, like, .0000001%.
Yeah, of course idolatry is a bit of a worry, but Semjase's so pretty! A visible credit to the wonders of Creation and more eye-catching that anything else I can think of in relation to the mission. It would be totally different, I think, if she were not also so SMART! :-) I see it as just a realistic (common sense) pitch, for us barbarians.
As to Tee-shirt "words-to-live-by", OM has squillions of them. (See below)
Cheers!
Dyson
Below are a small selection of some of the shortest of the 2534 proverbs which make up Canon 32
507. Ignorance is impermanent, like clouds driven before the wind.
632. Blessed is he who has learned to wait joyously.
716. Where fire finds nothing dry and flammable, it goes out.
834. Work is better than senseless prayer.
988. A wise man does not sleep in a soft bed.
992. He who praises himself is a fool or has bad neighbors.
1068. Beautiful words are seldom true, true words are seldom beautiful.
1076. First man drinks alcohol, then alcohol drinks alcohol, finally alcohol drinks the man.
1117. A human’s honor is more important than money and possessions.
1126. Fire purifies gold and consumes wood.
1169. The golden key of truth opens all doors.
1183. Bad books are the greatest thief.
1189. No matter how fast a lie can be it can always be overtaken by the truth.
1244. No teacher can replace a mother.
1363. He who loses his honor loses everything.
1386. Golden jewelry does not make a person better.
1421. The smaller the cage, the more beautiful freedom appears.
1480. No answer is a clear answer.
1482. Where there is fire there is also smoke.
1692. He who has many enemies also has much honor.
1729. Knowledge moves mountains. Belief makes slaves.
1766. He who does not crack the nut will not come to the kernel.
1979. There are not enough shovels to bury the truth.
2059. The dawn breaks even without the rooster’s crow.
2145. All wise people are brothers and sisters.
2164. The more a wise person gives, the more he has.
2168. The palaces of the powerful and the priests are full of gold; the huts of the wise are full of love and righteousness
2171. The most priceless treasures are the truth, the knowledge the love and the logic in wisdom.
2196. When you are thirsty it’s too late to dig a well.
2202. In the teeth of the fox, the chicken has no more choices.
2256. One cannot clean a spot with dirty fingers.
2304. He who holds back the truth buries all the gold in the world.
2339. He who is afraid to ask is ashamed to learn.
2414. Words are like leaves; acts are like fruit.
2415. The dead always go with the flow.
2419. Ignorance is freely chosen unhappiness.
2423. Proverbs are made by the wise, but fools copy them in speech and writing and falsify them.
2465. To be without guilt means to be without worry. |
Kingman
Member
Post Number: 784
Registered: 07-2004
| | Posted on Friday, March 05, 2010 - 01:02 am: |
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I think a good way to avoid the idolizing would be to cartoon Semjase with her image as a space chick that is way smarter/smoother than any Earth dude and doesn't fall for stupid Earth human one liners. Her ride is a souped up beamship that blasts across universes and time.
T-shirt with cartooned Semjase superimposed over a beamship with a zig-zagging trailing line behind it and the caption:
Time? Forwards or back, no problem! Gotta love Creation!
Making her as a cool smart person, not a super-human spiritual goddess, is what needs to be done if her personage is to be used.
Eventually Earth people will all know of Semjase, so we are not talking about something that won't ever happen. Her part in bringing the mission to us is incredibly important. Making her a normal human being is what will help make such an idea as useable.
T-shirt with cartooned Semjase displaying a really beautiful vibrant Earth hovering right above her hand and the caption says: Think twice before you do that!
a friend in america
Shawn
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Edward
Member
Post Number: 1709
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Friday, March 05, 2010 - 01:22 am: |
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Hi Michael....
Excellent site!
I love the Apron; with the knowledge...I am a very creative cook!
Will get one of those!
Edward. |
Michael_horn
Member
Post Number: 166
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Friday, March 05, 2010 - 09:08 am: |
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I appreciate all the feedback.
I'm actually shying away from images of the ETs right now, it could change. I feel that to cartoon them may trivialize them and give a message that this is all just a marketing effort, tall story, etc.
I personally like a lot of the images on the T-shirts, aprons, etc. just want to be careful about the direction we take it.
So we're...in process with this. |
Darren
Member
Post Number: 180
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Friday, March 05, 2010 - 01:13 pm: |
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What if Figu had a famous person to front them like Tom Cruise is doing for Scientology? Would it be too early for something like that? Would Figu turn that down if a famous person offered to do it? |
Scott
Moderator
Post Number: 1952
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Friday, March 05, 2010 - 05:34 pm: |
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How about Shirley McClain Again? |
Marbar
Member
Post Number: 81
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Friday, March 05, 2010 - 05:38 pm: |
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Hi Darren,
That would be something for FIGU, but it either could be 50/50 chance of helping or hurting FIGU.
When a product or company is endorse and well liked by a famous actor or actress, it can boost the sales of the product and help the company grow. In contrast, if the actor or actress no longer likes the product or the company or is no longer famous, sales on the product will go down and it could ruin the company. So, if FIGU decides to have a famous celebrity endorsing or speaking for them, it is a big risk. |
Earthling
Member
Post Number: 397
Registered: 05-2008
| | Posted on Friday, March 05, 2010 - 06:33 pm: |
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Scott, that's a joke right? (Shirley McClain)  |
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