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Bronzedesk
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Post Number: 74
Registered: 01-2009
Posted on Tuesday, February 16, 2010 - 06:25 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My sincerest apologies, I don't think I can bring this one back to a reasonable reality on its own. Do me a favor though and hash it among the other's and mods and if the final results are still the same as yours just bypass and disregard it as the senseless ramblings of an old Vet!

Thanks Scott very sincerely and sorry for the nebulous blurb!
First you forget names, then you forget faces. Next you forget to pull your zipper up and finally, you forget to pull it down. George Burns
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Marbar
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Post Number: 66
Registered: 12-2009
Posted on Tuesday, February 16, 2010 - 07:40 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Edward,

Like how you find my question funny, I wander if the Plejaren find that question funny as well. According to what has been stated about Erra, they only allow 5 people per house. I wander if a Plejaren man is allow to live in the same house with his four wives.

If that was actually happening on Erra, either the husband or one of his wives must have a place of their own that they don't allow them to come near.

I now wander if first-cousin marriage is allowed on Erra? I hope this question don't cause any problems. It took me alot of courage to ask this question on this forum. If the moderators feel like this question is inappropriate, they can remove it and I have no problem with that.
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Scott
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Post Number: 1936
Registered: 12-1999
Posted on Tuesday, February 16, 2010 - 08:21 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bronzedesk,

No apologies needed, I understand somewhat what you wrote....it may surprise you, but I too may have been exposed to Agent Orange...I was there as well...

Regards
Scott
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Justsayno
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Post Number: 135
Registered: 10-2009
Posted on Wednesday, February 17, 2010 - 09:41 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Bronzedesk and Scott, have either of you tried chelation or some type of detox?
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Edward
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Post Number: 1691
Registered: 05-2002
Posted on Saturday, February 20, 2010 - 04:00 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Darren and All.....


As was once mentioned, that the Thermo Explosion WAS...Intervened by the
Plejarans! THUS: if it concerns the devastation of the whole Earth(and other
planets and systems, etc...), they WILL take precautions, and Intervene!

SAME with the "Chain Reaction Bomb"!

The Thermo Explosion was prevented, thanks to them; if not: Earth would have
incinerate within a number of seconds!


Edward.
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Edward
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Post Number: 1692
Registered: 05-2002
Posted on Saturday, February 20, 2010 - 04:17 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Marbar.....


I meant more in a 'comical' sense, Positive, not laughing you out, so to
speak.

I think it was mentioned that each wife had their own home(?). And the
husband, could stay wherever he wishes. Quetzal, has a home of his own
additionally, as I can remember. Which is exceptional, as far as I know(?).

Concerning: I now wander/wonder if first-cousin marriage is allowed on Erra?

This, I do not know.

Cousin marriage (and health issues, related) on Earth, was discussed, here,
though. You may want to utilize the Search Engine, to gain more insight,
perhaps?


No, your questions do no harm, Marbar.

We all start off that way.

I admire you way of asking the questions. If anyone knows the answer, they
will provide it, to you.


Edward.
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Marbar
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Post Number: 70
Registered: 12-2009
Posted on Saturday, February 20, 2010 - 05:34 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Edward,

I'm happy that you like my questions. On my post number 66, I made a little typing error, I was not upset with you and the Plejarens(if they read that post). I'm very interested in such marriages. The way it is look down upon here on Earth because of the risk of having children, I wander how it is look upon on Erra and the Plejaren Federation members' home planets. I did see a question being answerd of this nature in the "Your Questions To Billy Meier Answered Section".

On Erra, husbands and wives have more respect for each other. As a result, they have no divorces at all.
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Ramirez
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Post Number: 389
Registered: 06-2008
Posted on Sunday, February 21, 2010 - 03:54 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Marbar,

Each wife has a separate home set on a plot approximately 100x100 meters.
In the case of Quetzal all wives live on adjacent plots so they are literally next door to each other. He has 4 wives and 6 children in total.
Quetzal I guess due to his position also has a log cabin somewhere in the wilderness .... most males like to have a garden shed so he also has one of sorts though larger.

From memory first cousin marriages are not permitted.

And yes it must be quite a juggling act managing such an arrangement but obviously those involved have a different mentality and outlook compared to earth persons. Initially this information shocked me because I compared it to islam with it's multiple wives, huge numbers of children and arranged marriages etc but after a while the advantages and possibilities became apparent.
Cheers.
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Darren
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Post Number: 168
Registered: 07-2009
Posted on Sunday, February 21, 2010 - 07:49 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Ramirez, about the building of that Quetzal's log cabin. I thought the P's were against harming or killing of any trees. eg the farmers tree they removed into another timeframe after the ufo filming.
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Ramirez
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Post Number: 391
Registered: 06-2008
Posted on Sunday, February 21, 2010 - 08:19 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Darren,

These things need to be viewed with a sense of proportion & common sense.

On a planet the size of earth in pristine natural order a few trees wont make any difference.

If all 550 million inhabitants wanted their own log cabin well maybe that would be an issue.
Cheers.
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Darren
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Post Number: 169
Registered: 07-2009
Posted on Sunday, February 21, 2010 - 10:11 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Ramirez, Thanks for that very prompt response! (30 mins)

Are you saying they didn't kill that (farmers) tree because there wasn't enough trees to people ratio on this planet compared to theres? That's what it sounds like.
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Ramirez
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Post Number: 393
Registered: 06-2008
Posted on Wednesday, February 24, 2010 - 04:28 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Darren,

I think the reality might go something like this.

Quetzal being a JHWH & now Spiritual Leader of the Plejaran ..... (Ptaah however remains overall leader) likes some privacy at times so requested permission to build a log cabin which was granted.

So he chose a secluded position in the wilderness, chopped down some trees from which the log cabin was constructed just like in the old pioneering days of earth. It's his boys shed. Dont ask whether he used an axe, chainsaw or android.


Considering he has 4 wives to nag him, 6 children plus various official duties like trying hard to accomplish difficult behind the scenes manouverings whereby various rather stupid races are prevented from exterminating themselves and so on plus studying history, medicine, geology, physics, astronomy, natural sciences, botany etc then zipping about meeting all manner of ET representatives ..... he is a very busy person and sometimes just likes to get away from it all, relax in his cabin, maybe wear his beads and kaftan, play some 60s music and generally put his feet up ..... he deserves it.

So yes we can tearfully say goodbye to a few trees but there are plenty on Erra so a few missing for the sake of Quetzal's log cabin is not much of an enviromental issue.
If he chopped down 6 I'm sure he planted 6 somewhere else as replacements.
Cheers.
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Darren
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Post Number: 173
Registered: 07-2009
Posted on Thursday, February 25, 2010 - 12:35 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes I can see Quetzal getting one simply because of his position.

Thx for that.
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Jonzie
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Post Number: 56
Registered: 04-2009
Posted on Thursday, February 25, 2010 - 08:19 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ramirez, wow I must be way off. I thought Quetzal became the JHWH of another planet. And I thought he had the cabin long before he was promoted. Please correct me. Now I'm confused.
"The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth."
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Gaiaguysnet
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Post Number: 994
Registered: 03-2004
Posted on Thursday, February 25, 2010 - 11:56 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Jonzie!

Arg! What a story! A little like mine:

I looked at some remaindered material in a bin outside a bookstore in the early 80's about some Swiss farmer who said he was in contact with people from the Pleiades. "Right!" I said to myself, "A star cluster filled with blue-hot plasma. And I'm Marie of Romania!"

Then 20 hard years passed.

Maybe we wouldn't have been "ready" for it all until later. That's my opinion.

Cheers!
Dyson
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Ramirez
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Post Number: 395
Registered: 06-2008
Posted on Thursday, February 25, 2010 - 07:45 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Jonzie,

Contact Report 233. December 1 1989.

Ptaah:
82. That correctly corresponds to my information that I gave to you.
83. Quetzal is working to attain the title of Jschwisch, which is why he isn’t available for the next, longer time and cannot come to the Earth.
84. With us, things behave differently with respect to the appointment of a person into a particular field of operation, so thus into a profession, through a final examination for an occupation, as this is called on Earth.
85. With us, the rule and order prevails that the corresponding activity should be thoroughly learned in theory and in practice over the necessary years of apprenticeship, which is also a very big difference in relation to the mode of learning that is used, for example, in Europe.
86. Then, after many years of developing what is necessary in theory and in practice, a 7-year completion of a journeymanship takes place, as you call this.
87. Only after this does the actual process occur that leads to the awarding of that title, as you called it.
88. In addition, the process of this is grounded in the fact that already through a variety of theory, practice, and experience, the tested person must reasonably exercise his learned activity on his own responsibility, but if necessary, counseling forces from the outside can be consulted at any time.
89. This is the time of proving, which lasts for a period of 3 years of the earthly calendar, while the suitability of the person concerned for the respective activity is examined and evaluated, and after this, in the case of suitability and continuance, is the awarding of the title, so with Quetzal, the designation, respectively the title, of Jschwisch – that is, King of Wisdom.


I'm presently unable to locate the contact report which mentions Quetzal's appointment as Plejaran Spiritual Leader .... I think in about 2003-2004. My understanding is that this position encompasses all 3 planets.

So first he attained the title JHWH short for Jschwisch then position of Spiritual Leader which means exactly ????? not sure.

Yes he had the log cabin before 1989 though at the time he acquired it I believe he was already second in charge after Ptaah so in a high position and apparently high enough to have his own shed.
Cheers.
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Borthwey
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Post Number: 154
Registered: 09-2007
Posted on Thursday, February 25, 2010 - 08:12 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Given the size of their population, I think that it's perfectly sustainable for every man (or woman) who so desires to have one (or several, depending on how long each one would last) log cabin.
David
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Marbar
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Post Number: 73
Registered: 12-2009
Posted on Friday, February 26, 2010 - 04:51 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

With Quetzal living in a log cabin. I wander does it have running water and power. If it is a log cabin in the woods just to get some privacy, I wander does he use some kind of portble lighting device.
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Jonzie
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Post Number: 59
Registered: 04-2009
Posted on Friday, February 26, 2010 - 08:02 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ramirez and Gaiaguysnet, thank you.
"The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth."
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Faerast
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Post Number: 18
Registered: 10-2008
Posted on Tuesday, March 02, 2010 - 12:48 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hi, every one
hope you all have a good health and a nice day
but I wish to know did semjase always wear a grey uniform when she meet billy meier?
Many thank
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Phi_spiral
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Post Number: 513
Registered: 03-2007
Posted on Thursday, March 04, 2010 - 12:06 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello Hodari

Regarding your question: "...how large are the cities on Erra?"

Es gibt zwar auf Erra, auf dem Zentralplaneten der Plejadier/Plejaren, auch einige grössere Städte mit mehrstöckigen Wohnhäusern, jedoch sind keine Wohnsilos in Form von Hochhäusern oder Wolkenkratzern oder dergleichen zu finden, wo die Menschen zusammengepfercht leben müssten.

There is admittedly on Erra, on the central planet of the Plejadier/Plejaren, also some bigger cities with multistoried residential buildings, however not residential silos in the form of high rises or skyscrapers or such, where the people would have to live packed together.
Aus den Tiefen des Weltenraums, page 213

However, between the single residential buildings, vast parks and gardens are provided with cleanly maintained footpaths, so the population density is kept overall quite low. The majority of the Plejaren prefer to live not in cities, but in the country.

Regards
Bob
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Darren
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Post Number: 179
Registered: 07-2009
Posted on Thursday, March 04, 2010 - 10:59 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Marbar, I was going to say that he probably has/uses tank water (rain) at the log cabin but then I thought again and thought, no, probably not. We don't know whats in that log cabin. It could be fitted out with all the high tech gadgets and furnishings they have in their normal homes. There could be one that makes clean water from moisture in air or something.
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Gaiaguysnet
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Post Number: 1028
Registered: 03-2004
Posted on Thursday, March 04, 2010 - 02:36 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi folks,

My personal experience with little shacks deep in the bush suggests that Quetzal has it to get away from all the high-tech stuff for a while and get back, as close as is comfortable, to Mother Nature. If he's like me, he uses a candle only when the open fire is not bright enough to provide adequate illumination and he's situated near a creek.

Cheers!
Dyson

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