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Marbar
Member
Post Number: 118
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 11, 2010 - 06:30 pm: | 
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Is Billy's son Atlantis, is he more involved in helping his dad with "The Mission" than his sister and other brother? |
Sanjin
Member
Post Number: 142
Registered: 06-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 11, 2010 - 10:26 pm: |
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Atlantis posts sometimes on the German FIGU forum, and he is also a Core Group 49 member. I don't know about his siblings.
Love makes the world go round.
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Smukhuti
Member
Post Number: 362
Registered: 06-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 12, 2010 - 07:08 pm: |
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Methusalem Meier spoke in a UFO conference and film festival in the U.S. America in 1999 along with Michael Hesemann, Wendell Stevens, Phobol Cheng and her teacher Sashi Raj. Maybe he is also helping in some way.
Salome.
Suv
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Badr
Moderator
Post Number: 529
Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, May 13, 2010 - 01:59 am: |
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Atlantis, Atlant and Natan are more active than Methusalem, Gelgamesha and Selina which is disabled.
Methusalem used to be a CG member but isn't anymore.
They are all his children 3 are biological and 3 are adopted.
Peace,
Badr |
Marbar
Member
Post Number: 120
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Friday, May 14, 2010 - 01:58 pm: |
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I read somewhere on this forum in the "Your questions tto Billy Meier answered" section that Billy had a partner. Does that means Billy has remarried or he just have a girlfriend? |
Indi
Moderator
Post Number: 478
Registered: 06-2006
| | Posted on Friday, May 14, 2010 - 07:14 pm: |
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Dear Marbar,
Eva Bieri, is now Billy's lifelong partner. This was mentioned in the contact notes and other places in the material.
Robyn |
Techieatwork
Member
Post Number: 116
Registered: 08-2008
| | Posted on Friday, May 14, 2010 - 08:03 pm: |
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Everybody deserves a friendly smile, a warm hug, a non-threatening peer and a good-conversation partner.
Good for him!!
Salome
Carlos
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Billy: Dann sprichst du eben in geraffter Form.
Quetzal: Das will ich tun.
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Darren
Member
Post Number: 244
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, May 15, 2010 - 05:04 pm: |
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I didn't know that. Is there a photo of Eva Bieri we could have a look at? |
Jamesm
Member
Post Number: 160
Registered: 02-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, May 16, 2010 - 02:11 am: |
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Darren: http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Witness_Testimony_Part_Two#Eva_Bieri_.2843.29.2C_secretary
James G. T. Moore
Webmaster www.futureofmankind.co.uk
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Earthling
Member
Post Number: 444
Registered: 05-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, May 23, 2010 - 03:41 am: |
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Why is it that the Plejaren can't handle the crude or primitive vibrations of earth humans but Billy can, who is equally or more spiritually evolved than the Plejaren? |
Memo00
Member
Post Number: 426
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, May 23, 2010 - 07:04 am: |
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Hi Earthling
it is because Billy is an earthling, i think it was mentioned that the consciousness "you are given" is different depending on where you are born, if a plejaren would die here and reincarnate he/she would have a consciousness that would be "in tune" with the vibrations of the planet at that moment.
With time one can become accustomed to almost anything, i think that even if it would be very difficult and life threatening, it could be possible for plejaren to learn to protect themselves from the negative vibrations of earth persons, but that is something that they don´t need since they live in a very different world and don´t need to be in contact with us at all. |
Indi
Moderator
Post Number: 486
Registered: 06-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, May 23, 2010 - 08:53 am: |
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Bruce, I found this excerpt written by Jacob in one of my old posts in 2008 which may answer your question:
The only logical solution is that one pure-spiritform will take on a task to be a prophet, for several reasons:
1. It has a conscious spirit consicoussness and can decide on its own in a perfect logical manner.
2. It's the only Spiritform who has the adequate knowledge, wisdom, power, love and strength to deal with the low and hard vibrations of the Earth human Spiritforms; we all know what happened to Semjase when our vibes hit her.
3. Pure spiritforms of Arahat Athersata are knowledgeable and wise enough to assist us as prophets, so a pure spiritform of Petale doesn’t have to do it. Although a pure spiritform of Petale is wiser then a pure spiritform of Arahat Athersata there is nothing that what the Earth human can understand that can't be explained by Arahat Athersata. Petale has its role that it explained the 12 commandments because it has the greatest wisdom of all, except Creation.
4. An pure Spiritform is not bound by incarnation cycles so they can incarnate where and when they please and when it’s needed.
You may want to do a search for Jacob's original post.
Robyn |
Ramirez
Member
Post Number: 474
Registered: 06-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, May 23, 2010 - 09:18 pm: |
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As a crude analogy ..... if you were confronted by a group of spaced out street thugs and catholic priests bearing down menacingly towards you .....
The P's hearts and stomachs sink in a similar way when encountering the vibes of most humans. Maybe it's all in the mind given their knowledge of humanities track record, a sort of unconscious reaction .... uuugggh one of those, which presses internal panic buttons.
If you appreciate classical music & cool jazz, being suddenly exposed to heavy metal or foul mouthed rap crap is sure to undo your day & cause distress.
It's the same other way round. Playing light classicals has been found to act as an effective repellant against undesirables who hang around shopping malls and railway stations.
Like yellow insect lights on the back porch 
Cheers.
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Hector
Member
Post Number: 590
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Monday, May 24, 2010 - 05:41 am: |
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Two months ago I went to a funeral of an acquaintance's brother. Everything was ok until an old lady begun to sponteneously recite the "lord's prayer" and the "rosary". Well she recited them not once or twice, but perhaps twenty times. At least a dozen people seconded her and recited together. It was like doing the "Lord's prayer meditation" along with a dozen lost and disoriented people. Having in mind the positive effects of our Saalome peace meditation, I compared it with the stupid incoherent and meaningless prayers I was listening. At that point I begun to feel uneasy, unconfortable, disturbed, stressed, agitated...I don't know if my vibrations did not harmonize with all those christians or catholic's vibrations, but sure, I was not having a good time there.
So I guess I somehow can imagine how the P's feel when they are confronted with an earth human without being protected by one of their devices. |
Mattopenminds
Member
Post Number: 22
Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Monday, May 24, 2010 - 06:05 am: |
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Hi Ramirez, Indi,
Great points and interesting to analyse the P's reaction to us. When I thnk of this I reckon...
1. Thoughts and feelings have measurable characteristics we do not yet detect outside of our readings of the resulting body/brain activity.
2. The consciousness of a human stretches out about 100 yards and affects other consciousnesses in the surrounding field. We therefore can directly affect the energy of the Plejaren and in turn THEY AFFECT US also.
3. There could be long term affects on us if we were to mingle amongst the Plejaren's energy fields. This could be like confusion or schizophrenic reactions to the contrasting energy fields experienced consciously. Or it could be like the experiment where you put one hand in very hot water and the other in very cold water and you cannot distinguish between hot and cold any more.
4. The Plejaren may, in that instant of meeting us, have to process our contrasting energy fields which are in that instant in survival mode; the default mode impressed upon us by culture. We would see their reactions to us as negative when in fact they are reeling from our sharp emotional defenses like we would a skunk with its tail in the air. I think we slowly disassociate from the energy of our spirit, so developed in the Plejaren consciousness by culture, as developing babies. The Plejaren do not experience our energy often as they are protected by shields.
5. Billy has learnt to balance his defensive feelings consciously so that when he met the Plejaren he was able to control his feelings and thoughts for himself and so create a stable bridge for communication and interaction which the Plejaren wouldn't have to run away from.
6. We can be very skilled at balancing energies ourselves but many of us are yet to learn to do this consciously. Billy has those skills. By learning what he learnt we can create balance. Contact with the P or other extraterrestial human beings comes naturally from our developing our consciousnesses not the other way around. Balance first.
This is all just conjecture, but enjoyable to deconstruct the process and minimise any hint of us being 'bad' beings.
Peace,
Matt |
Ramirez
Member
Post Number: 475
Registered: 06-2008
| | Posted on Monday, May 24, 2010 - 08:00 am: |
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Hi Matt,
With regard to your point 3.
"3. There could be long term affects on us if we were to mingle amongst the Plejaren's energy fields. This could be like confusion or schizophrenic reactions to the contrasting energy fields experienced consciously."
If you search about somewhat in Talmud Jmannuel particularly the Jerusalem lynch mob scene that might be an explanation.
Perhaps the simple reality is that those who gloated & mocked were simply overwhelmingly jealous of Jmannuel's status, could feel the vibes, knew consciously & subconsciously they were incapable of existing in such a state (at their current level of development).
It's queasy & uneasy for street thugs when encountering those vibrating at different frequencies, often viewed as a threat so animal instinct kicks in and often rage becomes the end result.
In a face to face with highly developed ET it's possibly the same ..... a clash of vibes like opposite poles of a magnet ..... repulsion, except in the case of ET they are aware of the dynamics whilst to most humans it's an unconscious instinctive reaction. Curiosity, awe, shock. The more brainwashed the more shocking.
Cheers.
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Bronzedesk
Member
Post Number: 118
Registered: 01-2009
| | Posted on Monday, May 24, 2010 - 08:55 am: |
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Dearest all,
1. Beginner's Mind:
The first stage, in life establishes the proper mindset for starting out on the path--a mindset the student must maintain every step thereafter. This is what's called the "beginner's mind." With the road laid by the parents-hopefully, otherwise another longer path must be taken.
2. Practice:
The second stage, describes the kind of training and discipline needed to progress along the path. This is the work ethic one must maintain through all stages of growth. I also warn of some common missteps that can lead one astray no matter how hard your thinking or feeling which is mostly based on poor peer-pressure.
3. Responsibility:
This, explains the standard required for excellence, as well as the responsibilities. It describes the kind of thinking, feeling, and attitude required of a true belief in hope. This is the level where body, mind, and spirit begin to fuse together.
4. Barrier:
The fourth stage, explores the barrier that lies beyond technical excellence and leads to a deeper understanding of the Way.
1. The Way
The last stage, is the beginning anew which reveals a totally new and true being of truth which also includes to be the light bearer worthy of emulating by others through thought, work and ultimately deed.
I encourage that you think of these stages as broadly as possible. You may be a novice in the world of sound, but you're not a novice in this life. Most likely, you're in some other area--carpentry, law, cooking, computer programming, skiing, whatever. Use this accumulated knowledge and experience to re-understand the Way and to evolve, then that past training will just begin to evolve on to a new next level which will take your even further which, all ready exists in your unseen skills to be used even more at an even higher level. Always maintain perspective both abstract and linear laced in a belief (faith) that we are not alone and never have been!
I plead that if in the proper perspective of time which the P's have given us although even close to 4000 years, never ever have we been given a chance and a clear opportunity like this one we have now and that ability for instant communication and feedback all in all in this existing time frame!
It provides a framework from which to tackle any new task. Once you learn the principles of the P's though Eduard you can apply them to any endeavor outside of any tonal that life throws at you. Follow the samurai maxim that says, "From one thing, know ten thousand things." this opportunity as such can teach you everything you need to know if you only willing to listen and perceive.
Put your entire focus into playing this game to the fullest of your remaining life. If you do that, in time, your questions will answer themselves.
You and I together have already taken the first steps on this path to a new beginning.
I as for one feel that without you, all we are standing still and, I would rather drink from a flowing creek or river than a stagnant pond!
I send all my due respect and love to all the moderators as well as to all others that have so graciously allowed the Old One-Armed Man [The Kid] to allow him to be and to truly be that which he truly is!
Mat
First you forget names, then you forget faces. Next you forget to pull your zipper up and finally, you forget to pull it down. George Burns
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Smukhuti
Member
Post Number: 375
Registered: 06-2009
| | Posted on Monday, May 24, 2010 - 10:13 am: |
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Hi Hector,
I have had similar experience and I am sure most of us in this forum had too. On top of that I live in an overpopulated, chaotic and polluted part of the world where illogic ruling the minds of the subjects have translated into illogical rulers. (Of course there is logic, harmony, creativity also, but as minority).
Traveling everyday too and fro from my workplace is an immense agony. I try to shut myself out of the disharmony by plugging my ears with harmonic music, but the world overwhelms me. While I feel disturbed and stressed, a sinking feeling sets in reminding me that it is still at least 800 years before the mission bears the first results. At the same time I see apparent triumphs of the illogical thinking mass who find happiness and joy and miracles within their humble lives, being oblivious of the bigger picture, that reminds me of the amazing nature of human psyche and the (negative) power of belief.
Salome.
Suv
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Phi_spiral
Member
Post Number: 524
Registered: 03-2007
| | Posted on Monday, May 24, 2010 - 05:14 pm: |
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It is also the case that strong fluidal energies can accumulate with great forces of immense blocks formed by many people, as for example in churches and cloisters or places of pilgrimage, etc.
If a person is highly sensitive to such vibrations, such as a person of high evolution, it can be very upsetting. Neutral positive thinking can help up to a point, but if the force is strong enough, it can be destructive even to the point of causing death.
This nearly happened to Billy in the cloister of Einsiedeln. (source: Rund um die Fluidalenergie, p. 49)
Regards
Bob |
Sitkaa
Member
Post Number: 288
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Monday, May 24, 2010 - 11:47 am: |
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Ramirez, that's a really good explanation. Thanks : )
When earth-bound humans interact with animals of lower intellectual reasoning ability, the animals don't always know how to interact - with fear or curiosity? Almost all wild animals are afraid of mankind at this point, and the ones that are not are only those with whom we have not previously interacted. What a statement that says about us.
Analogously, when earth-bound humans interact with 'aliens' of such higher intellectual reasoning ability, we don't know how to interact - fearfully or with genuine curiosity. Thankfully the universally creative laws are self-enforcing for people who can do the math, the most basic equation of which simply is love is.
Were only everyone on the planet to practice relaxing for abit, we might not all see the evolution of our individual and collective worldviews in such fearful tones. But I spose it will happen in its own time and at its own pace.
Love is always the way
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Mattopenminds
Member
Post Number: 23
Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 25, 2010 - 07:34 am: |
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Hi Ramirez,
Your point made me think of my current work. I am working with people diagnosed with Personality Disorder (PD) in a secure unit.
If a person with PD was a TV, its picture would be smooth and clear for about 10 minutes and then it switches to another channel with bad reception. These guys are basically children with big bodies in which to display bad tempers.
I've found that during my shift, things are very calm in the whole and I have felt a tangible creational energy flow through me and fill up a room so that there's this overwhelming feeling of peace. I think this came from my doing the meditations, especially the one: The creational-natural power is within myself, and I use this, putting it into effect in my thinking and acting.
I'm concerned about the long term effects of my exposure to these guys. I've felt their energy on me. I've heard of people talk about people being like vampires but doubt the logic.
I could do with someone directing me to Billy's writing where he explains how energies are exchanged between people and how to handle them so that I can apply to my work. Thanks.
Matt |
Adityasonakia
Member
Post Number: 248
Registered: 07-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 08, 2010 - 11:10 pm: |
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Hello everyone,
Could anyone please update me on Billy's health. I heard that he is not doing very well and has some problem with his heart.
Thank You.
Salome,
Aditya. |
Phenix
Member
Post Number: 352
Registered: 07-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 09, 2010 - 12:39 am: |
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Peace in wisdom be with you,
Dear Adityasonakia: Billy is well and kicking, yet a couple of weeks ago.
See the account of fellow member Stephen Moore of his stay at the Semjase-Silver-Star Center and meeting with Billy, May 2010:
http://forum.figu.org/cgi-bin/us/show.cgi?12/6089
(Post 267)
and my posts 347 and 348 on the same page.
Salome. |
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