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Indi
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Post Number: 520
Registered: 06-2006
Posted on Sunday, July 25, 2010 - 08:00 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Post by Ens moved to:

http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/12/11215.html?1280044712

Robyn
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Lth
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Post Number: 45
Registered: 06-2010
Posted on Sunday, July 25, 2010 - 12:35 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

> They use plain old water as well as sonic wave based methods. I don't > recall the exact location of this info but it may even be in the question > and answer section in there somewhere. Either way, there's your answer :-) > Oh and for cleaning the bum after using the toilet, they do use a wave based > method for that and it disinfects as it cleans. I read that for sure in a > later contact report with Ptaah.
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Marbar
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Post Number: 149
Registered: 12-2009
Posted on Monday, August 30, 2010 - 10:16 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have another question on Plejaren men being married to more than one woman. When they get married to more than one woman, do the male get married to the females at the same time?
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Blip1959
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Post Number: 1
Registered: 08-2010
Posted on Monday, August 30, 2010 - 05:34 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

first hi to all plajarens.
tell me is there a way to unlock past lifes as i might have been german in a past life and all i have to do is recall it and i will know it.after all german was the first words spoken well a old german not the new german or am i wrong..and i think on a personal level that we need more meeting with plajarens and speek with them to understand more .thx sergio out

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Dear Sergio, welcome to the forum!
Unfortunately, the Plejaren do not read the forum, so they cannot answer your questions. Might I suggest that you use the search function and see what you can find to do with your questions in the archives.

I will offer that it is possible to access information in your own personal section of the storage banks, and in that sense, it is theoretically possible to access info on former personalities that your spirit enlivened.

Robyn




(Message edited by indi on August 31, 2010)
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Edward
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Post Number: 1863
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Posted on Monday, August 30, 2010 - 11:48 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Marbar....

If you have read and studied Guido's book AY...TF, it is explained... the
Plejaran relationship process and all related.

It would speak for itself, that the Male Plejaran, only is involved with ONE
Female at a time, and like-wise would be the marriage. It takes some YEARS
before they take their oath into their matrimony ceremony, and than their bond
is sealed.


Edward.
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Darren
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Post Number: 269
Registered: 07-2009
Posted on Tuesday, August 31, 2010 - 11:40 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Marbar, Edward and all,

I did a search relating to sexually transmitted diseases (among the P's) caused by sexual intercourse from using more than one sexual partner and found nothing. How do the P's and Quetzal get around this? Any ideas? With regular use from one of those zapping machines the P's once used on Billy to remove all nasty parasites and the like from him?
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Davidmg
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Post Number: 68
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Posted on Wednesday, September 01, 2010 - 09:16 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Plejaren people do not have a rampant sexual habits as here on Earth. Their sexual engagements are of a respectful nature with only those whom they have a bond with married or in a long term relationship. Also Plejaren people have a very strict discipline when it comes to personal heath towards what they ingest by consumption. Most of the diseases have not been around on their planet for thousands of years. Hence Quetzal and others do not have anything to get around from.


Davidmg
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Rarena
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Post Number: 609
Registered: 10-2005
Posted on Thursday, September 02, 2010 - 08:42 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Here is an interesting idea from Contact 223 that fits here... Billy and Quetzel speaking together:

Contact 223:

Billy: Then a question in reference to sexual love, which is always confused with real love: how do the causes for this arise?

Quetzal: 75. Sexual love, is evoked chemically by the body via neurotransmitters such as dopamine and oxytocin, whereby the thoughts are of determining importance, because through these, in a conscious form, the desires are driven into higher or lower forms, which means that sexuality can be controlled by reason and intellect.

76. And indeed, sexual love has nothing to do with true love, which is purely determined by the mind and which can’t even be equated with the feeling of love, which is also often absent in the case of purely sexual love.

*********** end of snipit **** my comments follow;

It has been my experience to control those urges and feelings often identified as "love" when indeed it is merely neurotransmitters chemically attempting to further the species... like instinct. Real love is about "thinking" whether it be correctly or not.

The thoughts contain the "might" that drives us to perform.
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Peter_brodowski
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Post Number: 535
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Posted on Thursday, September 02, 2010 - 09:36 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

edward, quetzal has 4 wives from what i read.
unless i am jumping to a conclusion and misunderstanding the meaning of your words (which may be the case as i have misunderstood people before on this forum) then what you posted in post #1863 would be incorrect.

perhaps what you mean to say is that a plejaren man marries one woman at a time, working and developing the relationship each at their own pace. am i understanding you edward sir? :-)
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Eddieamartin
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Post Number: 21
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Posted on Thursday, September 02, 2010 - 10:35 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

> > > > [Rarena, > I'm impressed with this post, I found it filled with honesty. Two things I found intriguing in #76. The 'wisdom' with which Quetzal is imparting and how he summed it all up so accurately, what you so precisely identified, is of immense maturity, spirituality indeed and an honest view of our dual nature.

The question is my friend; what is 'True Love?'

(?) ...clearly having nothing to do with any form of intercourse.

Also, I found the following points particularly intriguing from #76. At this point, was Quetzal an Elo-JshWsh or an JshWsh?

76.

1. And indeed, sexual love has nothing to do with 'true love,' 2. which is purely determined by the mind 3. and which can't even be equated with the feeling of love 4. which is also often absent in the case of purely sexual love.

(?) What is "True Love" (?)

Great post,

Eddie

> ] > > >
[7:-)
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Indi
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Post Number: 537
Registered: 06-2006
Posted on Friday, September 03, 2010 - 02:38 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Eddie
if you go to this page in the Spiritual Terminology section there is a good summary of LOVE. Also, do a search and you will find many many discussions on Love.

http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/13/4224.html?1162333621

Also, further discussion of Love should be moved to a more appropriate area eg., Creational law

Robyn
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Borthwey
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Post Number: 207
Registered: 09-2007
Posted on Friday, September 03, 2010 - 07:14 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If an Erran can be involved with several married females, I don't see why he couldn't be involved with several single females.The progression of this could well be a multiple marriage, or a very quick sucession of marriages. That is, unless some rule against it exists, which I don't know about.
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Rarena
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Post Number: 610
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Posted on Friday, September 03, 2010 - 10:03 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dear Eddie,

Am not sure what True Love is... the Plejaren say many of us here on Earth do not correctly understand it.

With that being said here is my current rendition of true love:

Using my Psyche, which incorporates my mind and my heart, tells me: true love is caring for another without personal gain of any kind being the primary motivating factor. A truthful and unconditional... yet slightly positive nurturing of another dear person without imparting any negative influences whether psychic or spiritual on their own unique evolutionary path.

The mind being the factor most adhered too rather than primal instinctual neurotransmitters like dopamine and oxytocin leading the way.

A spiritual creative love not requiring excessive sensuality, social status, a particular body or looks to be easily compatible with. A person to grow, evolve and create with... even though that path may at times be difficult.

Creativity is important to me and it should be to that person as well...
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Eddieamartin
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Posted on Friday, September 03, 2010 - 01:07 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

> > > > [Hi Rarena, > Very well put and articulated.

(quote): "Using my Psyche, which incorporates my mind and my heart, tells me: true love is caring for another without personal gain of any kind being the primary motivating factor. A truthful and unconditional... yet slightly positive nurturing of another dear person without imparting any negative influences whether psychic or spiritual on their own unique evolutionary path."

Quetzal would be proud!

Your definition is very spiritual and has a profoundness to it which is evident of inner reflection; the Being/BEING within us 'knows' it quite well. The challenge is now on the "How To' exercise this and grow it from within. (dealing with this coarse-material wrapping we call a 'body' here on earth.= )

Billy would not have brought the subject up with Quetzal. And I can sense that, with Billy knowing the true essence and the inner power gained from the cultivation of this beautiful attribute is what expedites the cognition of and development of all those gifts and powers Creation has made available to us all.

The question now my friend is; 'How To' do we begin to strengthen and grow it within us?

Our personal, mutual and thereafter global evolution is dependent on developing and/or the strengthening of this beautiful attribute within us of FIGU.

Jmmanuel possessed it in great abundance and we see what he was endowed with.

Billy's first and wise teacher Sfath projected a sense of love and caring t= o Billy's mind and Billy felt it. So did the others. What a beautiful power to develop and utilize in this chaotic world.

Interestingly, the projection into another person's mind is made possible b= y Creations 'Law of Love' which turns out to be similar to the super position and unified field theories of quantum physics.

The 'how to' needs to be discussed, figured out, implemented and embodied a= s we are the hope of the Plejarens.

So, ...the question remains; How To?

Thank you for sharing and posting such an edifying post.

Warm regards,

Eddie

> ] > > >
[7:-)
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Indi
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Post Number: 540
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Posted on Friday, September 03, 2010 - 04:35 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Any further discussion in this section that is not to do with the Plejaren and the Federation, will be rejected!

Randy and Eddie, you were directed to move this conversation earlier -- please comply!

Robyn
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Eddieamartin
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Posted on Friday, September 03, 2010 - 04:56 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

> > > > [Hi Robyn, > You are so right; I didn't even look where it was being posted. I will make greater efforts to remember to be mindful of this. Thank you for all your efforts as a moderator. Best, Eddie

> ] > > >
[7:-)
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Edward
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Post Number: 1867
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Posted on Sunday, September 05, 2010 - 12:04 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Peter...


Yes, you got the idea in what I am referring to...:-)

Yes, Matrimony related.

I am aware that they can have more than one partner in their regular
relationship.


Edward.
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Edward
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Post Number: 1868
Registered: 05-2002
Posted on Sunday, September 05, 2010 - 12:12 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Darren....

Davidmg, explains it quite clearly.

The Plejarans do have Control over most of the illness we still obtain here on
Earth.

And their Sexual Desires are much more focused within the framework of
Creational Spirituality.


Edward.
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Joe
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Post Number: 128
Registered: 11-2008
Posted on Friday, September 10, 2010 - 01:48 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Can Ptaah marry again for the fifth time since all of his four wives have passed away?
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Edward
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Post Number: 1878
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Posted on Saturday, September 11, 2010 - 12:12 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Joe....


From a Logical point of view: why not?

Quetzal, even asked Semjase to joint his bond of marriage and with his already
existing wives, but... Semjase did not go into the matter.

As the saying goes: "Live goes...on..."


Edward.
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Joe
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Post Number: 129
Registered: 11-2008
Posted on Saturday, September 11, 2010 - 01:25 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Edward for the reply but I'm assuming that when Quetzal had asked Semjase to be his wife, he had at the time less than 4 wives... right?
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Bronzedesk
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Post Number: 132
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Posted on Saturday, September 11, 2010 - 07:39 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Maybe she just didn't want to be held in a "joint" custody case! ;)

"Do something every day that you don't want to do; this is the golden rule for acquiring the habit of doing your duty without pain." ~
Mark Twain
First you forget names, then you forget faces. Next you forget to pull your zipper up and finally, you forget to pull it down. George Burns
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Peter_brodowski
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Posted on Saturday, September 11, 2010 - 01:41 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

mind if i put in my 2 cents?

we must remember that the plejarens are human, and they are not above emotional baggage or wounds from past events. Semjase could possibly still be hurting from the loss of her husband, and perhaps she has some sort of view point that will keep her an unmarried woman for the rest of her life, that is tied into her loss from her past.
or perhaps she wants to put her focus on her education, and this requires her being single for some reason. the possbilities are many.

i wonder if it is acceptable for a plejaren man to marry two sisters? (should the event transpire where a man is attracted and develops a strong relationship to a pair of sisters).

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