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Gib_niner
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Post Number: 125
Registered: 06-2006
| | Posted on Monday, September 27, 2010 - 06:19 am: | 
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Unless that bottom-centre arm is actually Ptaah's right arm, and not Billy's left...(as it may seem to appear first, or at least, is what i thought it was first) - could it be?
Dig the well before you are thirsty. ~Chinese Proverb
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Villatlf
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Post Number: 21
Registered: 02-2009
| | Posted on Monday, September 27, 2010 - 05:42 pm: |
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You are very funny, Michael. If for some reason, in the distant future, I will see a plejaren face to face, and if he has long earlobes, I will not resist to think about a 'puppy' and laugh.
Another nice picture of ancient sculptures. Check the suits and the coincidence with the Plejaren picture. The second sculture does not have the head and he is aboard a flying machine, but the 'space suit' is very clear. It would be nice if Billy traveled back in time and an ancient human made an sculture of him.
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Gib_niner
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Post Number: 126
Registered: 06-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, September 30, 2010 - 12:31 am: |
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Nice - & on the second one - seems to even have a similarly designed top/front diagonal peice at the apex of the helmet. Quite similar!
here's one more for good measure - of Incan origin I think..to add to the collection.
Dig the well before you are thirsty. ~Chinese Proverb
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Michael_horn
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Post Number: 334
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 29, 2010 - 02:38 pm: |
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Cool stuff, very obvious that they were representing what they saw. |
Edward
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Post Number: 1900
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, September 30, 2010 - 03:31 am: |
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Hi All....
Here is just one more image done with a Blue filter.
Does give a bit more details.
Edward.
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Scott
Moderator
Post Number: 2044
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Thursday, September 30, 2010 - 05:33 am: |
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If we want to assume Ptaah's face can be seen in the right image, doesn't he have a beard? It appear's this image or outline of a persons's face does not have a beard, but is clean shaven. |
Michael_horn
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Post Number: 335
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, September 30, 2010 - 10:44 am: |
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P.S. On the headless seat figure in the space suit, note the similarity in the sleeve material to that of the two space suits in the Meier photo.
Also realize that the very idea of that kind of technology that allows for the protective suit material to bend and adapt to the body while maintaining tubular integrity, i.e. as opposed to the way a "normal" fabric would behave, is very advanced and a development necessitated by either underwater or, even more so, for space travel.
I think it's also telling that the seated figure has any kind of suit on, let alone this one, as I'm sure the culture (Inca?) it came from didn't wear any such kind of form fitting clothing. |
Villatlf
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Post Number: 21
Registered: 02-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, September 30, 2010 - 01:44 pm: |
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Why do we know that Billy is at the left and Ptaah at the right in the picture above? I think is the opposite.
This might be the picture that was taken by Semjase during the trip that was described in Contact Report 039, around December 1975, when she took Billy back in time to see the dinosaurs, and they met Ptaah there. I heard Billy did not have a beard by this time.
Don´t you think it more logical that Billy, with no beard, is at the right, and Ptaah is at the left? Ptaah did not want his picture to be shown to the public, so somebody erased his face (the figure at the left).
Does any body has a picture of Billy with no beard?
Francisco. |
Elreyjr
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Post Number: 189
Registered: 01-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, September 30, 2010 - 05:15 pm: |
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Greetings,
relative to the models, I hope you find this of relevance: http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_039
Semjase:
361. Consider what I already explained to you once before, namely that certain Earth human beings receive data and information from external telepathic impulses and unconsciously, so also authors and such people.
361. Bedenke, was ich dir schon früher einmal erklärt habe, dass nämlich gewisse Erdenmenschen von ausserhalb impulstelepathisch und ihnen unbewusst Daten und Angaben erhalten, so auch Schriftsteller und dergleichen Personen.
362. Thus, they describe things and possibilities of the future and also make drawings and models.
362. So beschreiben sie Dinge und Möglichkeiten der Zukunft und fertigen auch Zeichnungen und Modelle an.
363. Through this, they slowly prepare the Earth human beings and, in particular, the scientists for the coming events, cognitions, and forms and give them the drive for development.
363. Dadurch bereiten sie langsam die Erdenmenschen und insbesondere die Wissenschaftler auf die kommenden Geschehen, Erkenntnisse und Formen vor und geben ihnen Antrieb zur Entwicklung.
Jun
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Elreyjr
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Post Number: 190
Registered: 01-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, September 30, 2010 - 11:17 pm: |
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Greetings,
Is the photo of the two individuals as discussed above the same photo as mentioned by Billy after Ptaah's line 7 from Contact Report 039? line 4 however, mentioned that such photo to be taken with Ptaah is not allowed for distribution.
I think further clarification is needed and best to come from Billy himself. for all we know, it may now be the right time to show an easily understandable photo of Billy and Ptaah taken by Semjase herself during that trip. if it is not yet the time, then we all have to wait.
Jun
My will be done |
Borthwey
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Post Number: 211
Registered: 09-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, September 30, 2010 - 05:31 pm: |
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I think it looks more like Ptaah, but he has a shorter beard than in this drawing. The face is very strongly lit/overexposed, making his white beard become undistinguishable.
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Edward
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Post Number: 1903
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Friday, October 01, 2010 - 01:49 am: |
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Hi Scott and Francisco....
Scott: I was also thinking of that. Ptaah without a beard??
Francisco: Billy is definitely at our Left. You can see Billy's somewhat
'round' forehead and he combs his hair backwards; which is very clear and
distinctive in his old pictures.
Before the Great Spacer voyage Billy did not have a beard, yet, as I
recall(?). It was after this experience...his beard all of a sudden grew when
he fell asleep or something and woke-up and he noticed this phenomenon. As if
it happened overnight, so to speak. Perhaps even Ptaah did not have a beard in
those days??
Edward. |
Borthwey
Member
Post Number: 211
Registered: 09-2007
| | Posted on Friday, October 01, 2010 - 06:07 am: |
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Just a note, the photo of Billy I posted is from 1977 and is reversed (mirrored).
From his great spacer voyage, what I remember is that it took three days, but time was manipulated so that he returned from it shortly after he left. He then slept for a full day and when he woke up, his four-days old beard seemed to others as it had grown quickly during his sleep. |
Borthwey
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Post Number: 212
Registered: 09-2007
| | Posted on Friday, October 01, 2010 - 11:35 am: |
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I Jun, I had also had the thought that these models could have been inspired by dreams, or by visionary states. That rocket for example, could well have been inspired by a vision of a jet fighter plane of our time. No beings advanced enough to come here from other planets would be using these types of propulsion... |
Bodhran
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Post Number: 119
Registered: 08-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, October 02, 2010 - 07:03 am: |
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Hi all in regards to the space suit photo's, the only version we ever see is the Randy winters video clip, are the originals still in existance?It would be cool to see them in better detail. I would like to see the skeptics explain where Billy got hold of a couple of spacesuits in Schmidruti in the 1970's. 
Salome
Tony.
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Jay
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Post Number: 375
Registered: 01-2002
| | Posted on Monday, October 04, 2010 - 11:52 am: |
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Is so hard to decipher who is who although I feel Meier is the person shortest in the picture. This would only then be the person standing on the left of the picture.
One consideration to take into account the "hardware" used to shoot the photos in space. Meier did not have an advance camera such that of NASA to take good quality pictures of themselves at the time of this photo in space no less.
A second consideration must also be noticed, radiation levels if any may have caused some of the effects of the blurred view to make it a bit impossible to tell who is who in the photos.
I do agree with Michael that the sculptured figure from one of many indigenous races in south America may for sure tell a story of a ship and its occupant(s) on a single person flying vehicle of some sort and or whatever was used at the time of its arrival to earth or from a larger initial flying machine. The suit is definitely a sign of an advance environmental outfit of some sort.
Saalome and BE WELL to ALL
JAYhovaah
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Truthseeker
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Post Number: 339
Registered: 03-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 05, 2010 - 10:28 pm: |
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Greetings everyone, I personally find the space suit photo to be very similar to that seen in the original Russian sci-fi movie "Planeta Bur" (1962), from which the Americans later made this into the movie "Voyage to the Prehistoric Planet" (1965) and then later made into the movie "Voyage to the Planet of Prehistoric Women" (1968). Here's a photo which I think is very similar to that of Billy's space suit photo, although not entirely the same.
A more colorization of it can be seen here.
So do to the similarities to the movie and its remade edits by the Americans, its also possible that the MIBs manipulated this one too. Interesting enough Billy's photo was of a time travel back into Earth's prehistoric time and also Billy did see a prehistoric world before that, which was much like the theme for these movies. Obviously it would appear that the MIBs blurred more of the Bur image with Billy's so we can't see as much comparison in detail as we would like, but would also appear to have been a copy cat re-imaging in much the same way as what movie director's Peter Bogdanovich and Curtis Harrington did with the original Russian film created by Pavel Klushantsev. Since the Russians weren't exactly friends with the Americans at that time, then one has to wonder just how much the Americans, NASA and the MIBs may have stole ideas, films and images from other people in other countries to which even Billy Meier was likely not an exception to having had his images stolen by the same people.
Here is another Artists depiction of the Billy Meier space suit photo, which was sent to me a few years ago, I think by Edward, but I'm not totally sure who the artist is. It was actually this sketch photo which helped me in finding the others from the movie or movies. |
Villatlf
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Post Number: 22
Registered: 02-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, October 07, 2010 - 02:14 pm: |
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I made an analysis of the faces measuring the proportions. You are may be wandering why I have included Obama instead of Ptaah. Just to show you the different proportions in different faces, and I picked a very common one. Ptaah face is just a drawing, so I prefer to make the analysis on photos; that is the reason why I did not include him.
My conclusion? The gentleman at the right (in the original photo) has a face in a proportion very close to Billy Meier. For me, this man has no beard. Billy did not have a beard when this photo was captured. So I think most likely he is Billy.
The factor F1 and F2 are based on distances from specific points in a face. Billy and the gentleman at the right has about the same values. You can do a similar analysis with a photo of your selves.
Francisco
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Eddieamartin
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Post Number: 36
Registered: 08-2010
| | Posted on Friday, October 08, 2010 - 08:00 am: |
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> > > > Is it possible for some one to ask Billy and respond? >
Eddie
> > >
[7:-)
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Edward
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Post Number: 1906
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, October 10, 2010 - 12:22 am: |
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Hi Truthseeker....
I have seen the drawing once before.
And the drawing being sent by Edward, ME??
No, I in no way sent such an image to anyone.
Perhaps, it could be Billy on the Right(no beard) and Ptaah on the Lift(with
beard)??
Been a long time since I have seen that image...
Edward. |
Whitelotus
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Post Number: 15
Registered: 02-2010
| | Posted on Monday, October 11, 2010 - 10:46 am: |
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Hi Everybody,
I am not sure whether I am posting this in the right location. I just like to seek views on the recent UFO sighting in inner Mongolia (as reported in Yahoo news video) whereby the airport had to shut down for air safety reasons. Already in recent months, there were two sightings in China since June of this year.
Could it be the Plejarens? According to China news, there was one sighting near midnight on Sept 22 this year in the ancient city of Ping Yao in north China's Shanxi province and was in fact video-ed. The UFO stayed in the air for almost 40 minutes, as reported by witnesses.
Any comments? |
Scott
Moderator
Post Number: 2045
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Monday, October 11, 2010 - 09:09 pm: |
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Hello Whitelotus,
I'm curious what kind of views were you expecting? Since there is no way to know the source of the sighting, I don't think speculating on what or who it was will ever produce anything definite. There used to be a UFO Section on this forum, but it has since been closed off, because hopefully the focus will eventually shift to the spiritual teachings.
Regards
Scott |
Edward
Member
Post Number: 1909
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Monday, October 11, 2010 - 11:55 pm: |
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Hi All....
I was just wondering(; which was the case many years back when I saw both
images, then):
Was the image snapshot of Billy and Ptaah taken BEFORE the Great Spacer
Journey or AFTER??
I ask this, because: if the cap was taken Before the journey, the face of the
person on the Right could indeed be Billy, due to Billy not having a beard at
that time, yet.
And, if it was taken After the journey, the person on the Left could be Billy
and the person on the Right Ptaah: and due to the over-lighting reflections on
the glass helmet...it makes it very difficult to distinct Ptaah's beard and
other facial characteristics.
Or, it could just be as Scott mentioned: it being Tampered with....?
Edward. |
