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Tat_tvam_asi
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Posted on Friday, July 27, 2018 - 08:28 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes, Eddy - Jmmanuel was a twin.
The other interesting information:
Maria Madalena was Jmmanuel’s step sister – the daughter of his father with his first wife (from Magdala on the Sea of Galilee) who died at giving birth to Miriam (Maria) Magdalena.
In this CR Billy clears up as well another rumour:
M. Magdalena “… was deeply devoted to Jmmanuel in platonic love” even accompanying him on his travel to India but she was never his lover as some stories claim.
Source: FIGU-ZEITZEICHEN, Nr. 97, Juli/1 2018 5
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Michael_horn
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See also:

https://theyflyblog.com/jesus-had-a-twin-brother-named-jacob/2018/07/25/

He found this in German, from CR 334:

Billy Eben, sagte ich doch. Aber sag mal: Hat dir Florena nicht etwas aufgetragen, um mir eine aufklärende Antwort zu bringen bezüglich einer alten Gebeine-Urne, von der im Monat Oktober 2002 in allen öffentlichen Medien berichtet wurde, bei der es sich angeblich um eine Urne mit den Gebeinen von Jakobus, dem Sohn Josephs, Bruder des Jesus handeln soll? Das ist ja eigentlich Unsinn, denn Jmmanuel liess seinen Bruder Jakobus nach Srinagar nachkommen, wo dieser auch im Alter von 93 Jahren starb und beigesetzt wurde, während ja auch Jmmanuel nicht auf Golgatha, sondern ebenfalls in Srinagar/Kaschmir starb, und zwar im Alter von 115 Jahren.

Enjana: 41. Florena beauftragte mich tatsächlich mit deiner Frage, die ich an Quetzal weiterleitete, da er hinsichtlich des Lebens und der Geschichte Jmmanuels und seiner Geschwister die massgebende Koryphäe ist.

42. Seiner Weisung gemäss soll ich dir berichten, dass eine Urne mit Jakobus-Gebeinen nie existiert hat und folglich auch nicht in Jerusalem oder sonstwo in Israel oder Palästina usw. gefunden werden konnte.

43. Bei der von dir genannten Gebeine-Urne, so wurde durch unsere Nachforschungen abgeklärt, handelt es sich um eine Fälschung, und zwar eben in dem Sinn, dass sie als Jakobus-Urne deklariert wird, die nichts mit den Gebeinen von Jmmanuels Bruder Jakobus zu tun hat, denn dieser verstarb tatsächlich in Srinagar wie Jmmanuel, der gemäss seiner richtigen Geburtszeit im Jahre 115 in Srinagar beigesetzt wurde.

44. Nach der sogenannten christlichen Zeitrechnung trifft das auf das Jahr 111 zu.
Billy: Jmmanuel hiess ja auch nie Jesus, wie ihm nach seinem Weggang von seinen Jüngern und Jüngerinnen angedichtet wurde. Und ausserdem war zu seiner Zeit der Name Jakobus, Joseph und Jesus sehr häufig, so also das ‹Jakobus, Sohn von Joseph, Bruder von Jesus›, was ja auf der Urne stehen soll, auf einen andern Jakobus, Joseph und Jesus zutreffen wird. Wie auch zur heutigen Zeit gab es ja auch damals mehrere Möglichkeiten, dass die drei Namen in einer Familie gleichzeitig auftraten.

Enjana: 45. Deine diesbezügliche Frage an Florena, die ich Quetzal auch vorgetragen habe, entspricht dem Tatsächlichen.

46. Zu Jmmanuels Zeit, so erklärte Quetzal, dürften die Namen in der Folge, wie sie genannt sind, als Sohn, Vater und Bruder 34 mal in Erscheinung getreten sein.

47. Die besagte Gebein-Urne ist aber eine Fälschung.

Billy Aha, dachte ich mir doch.
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And Christian is going to ask Billy for more information as well.
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Scott
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If I'm reading this diagram correctly from the Creational Truth Website, it is showing Jmmanuel having a brother "James", but nothing indicating him as a twin to Jmmanuel. It will be interesting to see what additional info Billy can supply.

James

(Message edited by scott on July 27, 2018)
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Hugo
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Most people in those ancient times lived to around 40-50 years old if I recall correctly. Jmmanuel lived to 115 and Jakobus to 93 years old is rare and very old for those times. I gather being fathered by an ET with a 1,000 year life span may have been behind that.
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Corey
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Sorry to interrupt this Jmmanuel twin brother (Jakobus) discussion that I find fascinating. I just wanted to comment to Hugo about his post #569 a page back.

Hugo,

Take it easy on yourself. You were not born into a situation where you could be instructed and trained from birth about the teaching of the truth, the teaching of the spirit, the teaching of life, right? This was something you had to find along the way as an adult, because the truth teaching was not established well enough in Aussieland during the time of your current life's birth (maybe in a future lifetime). This was something you had to make (stupid) mistakes along the way to find your way to the truth of all truths: the truth teaching. And as Billy writes in "Goblet" mistakes are like stones along the path you are walking that you have pick up, inspect, and to learn from. Resolution (relative absolution [ one has to try and not repeat errors]) of errors are a big part of this spiritual teaching. We all did stupid things in our younger days, and we all made stupid mistakes, besides, learning from your mistakes builds character, and building your character is part of the teaching because virtues are partially acquired from forming the character of the individual human-being. See "Goblet" 16:11 for a verse that explains personal discipline (self-education) must never cease during the course of one's life, and how that correlates to character and virtue..

To go along with Niko's post #12 about the spirit-form animating your body (and how this relates to the consciousness) see "Goblet" 16:12.

Never forget that the acquirement of virtues, being equitable and fair, knowing inner and outer peace and freedom, and following the laws and recommendations of the Creation so things go well with you are all established by the teaching of the true prophet, the teaching of truth, the teaching of the spirit, the teaching of life. The point might not be what type (kind) of virtue you possessed before you found the truth teaching, and should not be because of the mistakes you made in your younger days expels you from being the bearer of an ET spirit-form. The point is what type of human-being you will become now that you found it (the truth teaching), and will you study it? Now that you found it, what will you do with it, to accumulate some long lasting love, knowledge and wisdom? The bearer of an ET spirit-form (in my opinion) would take advantage of the fact that he or she found the truth-teaching in their current lifetime on a planet filled with so much untruth, and he or she would (in my opinion) savor every last drop of truth learning for as long as the time they have of current living, before their reincarnating spirit-form is born again with a new consciousness-block, and new personality, and will have to find the truth all over again (which may be easy or difficult depending on one's former study? [streben für die Wahrheit]). Connection to the mission will surely be made in future lifetimes for individuals, will some of us be one of them? one can only assume a serious studier will be reborn with a deep feeling of drive to thirst for the truth, so they can study all over again. Born with a very deep longing for FIGU, but not know it consciously?

Now that the last in the line of 7 (prophet) has set it all down in writing, mankind can lastly learn the truth teaching in this life, and the next, and it's up to FIGU to guard these precious books for the old-times sake, and (of course) the new-times sake.
Salome/Corey Müske. -"Goblet of the Truth" page 488 & 489 (theme of overpopulation and not following what is natural):
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27:62 "Ihr habt nur die Wahl, euch aus euren selbsterschaffenen Verstrickungen zu befreien und der Wahrheit der Schöpfung sowie ihren Gesetzen und Geboten Folge zu leisten – oder unterzugehen."

27:62 "You only have the choice to liberate yourselves out of your self-created entanglements and to follow the truth of the Creation as well as its laws and recommendations – or to go under."
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Eddieamartin
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Corey,
once again, great post (#438).

Hogo,
I concur with Corey's post, it's pretty much what I reflect on when ever I may get a little judgmental of myself.

I have done some stupid things that make me facepalm some times when I reflect back through my memories.

But to my surprise, I have found that those "stupid" memories have helped me help young people I have interacted with and even some adults to better understand Billy's explanations about puberty, it's purpose and creational intended effects (as explained in the Goblet Of The Truth).

So it is in these situations that I somehow find value in those past mistakes.

My former belief in religiosity has also come in handy while discussing aspects of religion with friends. So there is value in knowledge and experience.

Here is a verse from the Goblet Of The Truth regarding puberty (there is a great deal of information and insights and information further in the texts).

Chapter 25
166) And truly, uncountable ones amongst you, you humankind of Earth, you have not grown up or do not grow up, because your consciousness has remained stuck or remains stuck in the puberty through the wrong education you have received, while your body grows older and takes on the forms of the adulthood.

http://www.figu.org/ch/files/downloads/buecher/figu-kelch_der_wahrheit_goblet-of-the-truth_v_20150307.pdf
Salome,
Eddie

In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says:
Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3)
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Hugo
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Thanks Corey and Eddie!

Yes I have to agree with what Corey said there! Mistakes even if they are dumb ones are stepping stones needed in ones path to learn from and find the truth.

I think it was Jacob who once said that knowing whether you have an ET spirit form or not does not help or mean much in the current life you have to live. Something like that anyway.
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Jacob
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I do think it has some limited help in the way, a little bit like knowing if you are adopted or not, because than you understand why are so different in some respects from your parents and siblings.

I am sure a lot of people can relate to this, why they are so different from others in their surroundings, including their own family.
Salome,
Jacob

As for me, all I know is that I know nothing.
~ Socrates
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Redbeard
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Yes Jacob,

I can totally relate the family/sibling issues of such unwillingness to look at these things that are so amazing and interesting and really life changing.

It’ really would put a deeper understanding on this common problem that people have of being able to recognize what seems to me to be so obviously true, the teachings that is and all.

Peace , Matt
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Hugo
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http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/12/27.html?1536187299

The video Scott posted at the bottom of page in the above link of the Christian Frehner interview, at the 11:30 minute mark, I was surprised to hear Christian say on the 29th of May this year that over 37,000 people partake in the peace meditation and 2 years ago a number of over 21,000 people in 116 countries had decided to implement Meier's spiritual teachings in their everyday life. I assume these numbers came from the Plejaren. Very surprising high numbers. I expected them to be very much lower than that.

Christian is beginning to look like Billy! :-)
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Niko_sulonen
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Couple of interesting videos I came upon. Remote viewing sessions into the Meier case. Some intriguing information there, but as always, a pinch of salt is recommended.

Title: Remote Viewing Session: Billy Meier UFO
https://youtu.be/4dAaNL-bsWM

Title: Remote Viewing Session: Alleged Energy Weapon, Billy Meier UFO
https://youtu.be/Hw93C5MtqRI

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(Message edited by scott on December 08, 2018)
I recognize my path, which is the truth and living in accordance with it. I carry out my mission for life and for the fulfillment of life. I abide by the creational laws and recommendations, which reign in me as true love and wisdom.
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Niko_sulonen
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Hi Scott,

My mistake. Thank you for informing me.
I recognize my path, which is the truth and living in accordance with it. I carry out my mission for life and for the fulfillment of life. I abide by the creational laws and recommendations, which reign in me as true love and wisdom.
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Scott
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Posted on Saturday, December 08, 2018 - 08:35 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Your Welcome Niko

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