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    Joe Member Post Number: 196 Registered: 11-2008 |
Earthling, I don't think that Rasputin was one of Billy's past incarnations because if this were really the case then Ptaah himself would have probably mentioned this. | ||
Ferbon Member Post Number: 25 Registered: 05-2012 |
Earthling, Attention to details is everything, isn't it. Although, a lot of people would conclude, that such things have no influence on the present and/or future, thus, what matter does this make; even if Billy actually went and called/named his former lives apart from prophets, of course? Would he appear insane/crazy/delusional/evil because of what he was? And how would you react to the teachings of truth because of his "other incarnations"? Billy, as we know, won't disclose his other incarnations, thus, pondering on it can result only in assumptions, and a dinner conversation ;) at most. Knowing someone personally means face to face by our standards, who knows what Ptaah meant by that? Maybe he studied him at the time, as it was turning point, on which, one man's life could affect history of Earth humankind? Should they actually talk though? What about? What agenda? Rasputin was a man who now stands out on the pages of history of that time. Ptaah's words are also intriguing. And more so some facts from Rasputin's past - like studying religions, starting a group of people supposedly calling themselves- "brothers/sisters", going on the "great journey" as paraphrased by Wikipedia, etc. My question would be: what other people from our past did Ptaah know personally? | ||
Earthling Member Post Number: 632 Registered: 05-2008 |
Joe, Ptaah may have mentioned it, off the record. And we are not privy to such info, in general. Ferbon, sure, such info makes no difference, therefore? I think Ptaah personally knew him, meaning face to face. However consider that a guess until confirmed from a reputable source. Regarding your question about who else Ptaah knew personally - I don't know. | ||
Ramirez Member Post Number: 722 Registered: 06-2008 |
Hi Earthling, Rasputin died in December 1916 and Billy was born February 1937 so it's nowhere near the usual processing times between reincarnations. Maybe it's one indicator against the idea. Cheers. | ||
Ferbon Member Post Number: 26 Registered: 05-2012 |
Elia - Jun 4th 780; 772 Feb 7th - Jesaja (8)? Jesaja - May 5th 690; 662 Feb 9th - Jeremia (28)? | ||
Earthling Member Post Number: 633 Registered: 05-2008 |
Ramirez, I've read that the Nokodemion spirit form will reincarnate very quickly. | ||
Ramirez Member Post Number: 723 Registered: 06-2008 |
Hi Earthling, Sure, he loves getting into a sack of bones often for a chance to spread the word about things mysterious. If you visit Wikipedia search for Eliphas Levi ..... he cant have occupied two bodies simultaneously. Look for: Levi, Eliphas Transcendental Magic, Its Doctrine And Ritual.pdf Levi, Eliphas - Dogma & Ritual.pdf There are various other works attributed to him and purportedly translations of his works circulating which are fakes. Merlin the magi ...... Levi the magi ..... You can save up till end of month and ask him if you wish but probably there wont be an answer. Just like US navy vessels .... we cant confirm or deny ..... Cheers. | ||
Ferbon Member Post Number: 28 Registered: 05-2012 |
Earthling, Two more personalities came to my mind, namely: I. (Man of Peace) - Noahkadnosser, who, as it is known from contact report 248, was in contact with extraterrestrial-(He who brings the hosts of the Universe) - Zebalon about 103013 B.C. By building The Ark, he made possible survival of about 140 (144?) people at the time of the great destruction caused by tidal waves caused by the large comet passing in close proximity to Earth. II. Moses - 3,453 years before the year A.D. 2000, prepared the exodus of the Hebrew-Jewish people from Egypt at the time when Destroyer comet caused eruption of Santorini volcano. | ||
Edward Member Post Number: 2457 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi Earthling.... NO, I do not think Billy's Spirit-form incarnated in Rasputin's body. Rasputin was, Sexually....very obsessed! So, I do not think that the Spirit-form which resides in Billy would not incarnated for/with such 'traits' in a human, in such overbearing manner. Remember, if such would be the case, than Rasputin's Mission would be purely based on the Mission and the Spirit(ual) Teaching(s) and certainly NOT Sexually obsessed!! This is WHAT got him killed in the first place, as has been mentioned here-and-there.... Some of us here, know, HOW the Plejarans think of any type of Sodom and Gomorrah type of scenario.... Thus, Rasputin was more Material obsessed, so to speak, that Creational Spiritual; even though he was aware of the Teachings. So, he kinda wandered of.... Edward. | ||
Ferbon Member Post Number: 36 Registered: 05-2012 |
not chronologically, but yet, two more personalities to consider... III. Rasputin - (date of birth - unconfirmed, died Dec. 1916), was in contact with Ptaah IV. Merlin/Myrddin - (1st of May 449 - 14th June 542), was in contact with Keridwena, was a bard, a doctor, a teacher, a historian, and later king and prince of druids. Edward - the sexual obsession of Rasputin, as well as his alleged connection with devil; was a label that the religion related people were trying to dis him with/ force him to leave/ get him harassed, etc. Same was with Merlin and his father. I assume, same would be with you - if any current religion felt threatened by your teachings. p.s Merlin, asked Keridwena for....a ray gun!? ...in the time of druids!? what was he thinking  Plus, it shouldn't look like ray gun, so she had to make it look like a sword! | ||
Norm Member Post Number: 1479 Registered: 02-2000 |
Rasputin's death by the British really didn't change anything. The Bolshevik revolution still caused the Russians to pull out of the war with the Treaty of Brest-Litovsk. So really nothing was altered by Rasputin's death. Unless Billy can explain how different it would have been. The results seem to be the same. My Website | ||
Edward Member Post Number: 2473 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi Ferbon and Norm.... Ferbon, of course, there would be a possibility as you mention concerning Raspoetin. Did cross my mind, but, there were indeed many versions of what....the case may have been. They, did not remove his manhood from his body for nothing. And, he was very popular with the women and perhaps, even men, has ben suggested. Thus, it does not per se have to be a scenario created to...put him in the dark of light, so to speak. If you have any reference what you said is said by Billy or the Plejarans, than, it can be taking into thought. If not, your assumption is still kinda 'misty'.... Norm, I am familiar with that, too; I was wondering about that... Thus, I think his personal 'weakness'(lust with the women) and the political motives, kinda manifested in combination. I mean: gosh, he is man, and it can get out of hand, as it may in his case as it can with others... Edward. | ||
Ferbon Member Post Number: 40 Registered: 05-2012 |
Edward, Yes, Rasputin's sexual addiction was dismissed by Plejaren. I will search for the reference for you as it had been clearly stated. What is the story with removing a manhood? Are you serious? Rasputin's death is described in explicit details by Ptaah, as well as reason of his murder in light of dirty political game! Nothing as ridiculous as this is mentioned. | ||
Edward Member Post Number: 2478 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi Ferbon.... Sure, please post the reference... His manhood, at least it is said, his, is exhibited in a Russian museum, as is some other items of his. [Look it up on the internet...you can not mis it!] Edward. | ||
Ferbon Member Post Number: 42 Registered: 05-2012 |
Edward - Link was originally posted by Earthling on the previous page. Here it is again regarding Rasputin. http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_487 His life is mentioned occasionally couple other times. This is part of it. Salome | ||
Justsayno Member Post Number: 466 Registered: 10-2009 |
Ferbon, there is big money on the black market for body "parts" and this type of activity continues to this day. You don't have to look any further than Treasure Traders on the history channel for the (sick) people who are buying and selling it. Good, better, best. May you never rest, until your good is better, and your better best. | ||
Edward Member Post Number: 2481 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi Ferbon and Sheila.... Yeah, most of the relationship with the Tsar is known to me and the war bit. This was also mentioned in many docs I have seen in the past and books read. And the British officer who killed him having part in his death. Sheila, perhaps, there are details the Plejarans left out. If Ptaah says, 'not to poke around in old things', perhaps, more details of his body (and other aspects) can not be revealed? But, we can leave each individual to determine this for his/her own.... I am sure Rasputin did not live a Dissoluted lifestyle, being Evil or whatever. But, he can have his 'weaknesses' as we all do...; the Plejarans did mention once, that certain personal aspects of an individual...should just not be revealed...and as I could make out of this, it does concern the weaknesses of an individual or other aspects. We should just focus on the Positive aspects, is what counts, is more their directive. Thus, we can just speak of 'possibilities' and not per se 'plausibilities'.... Edward. | ||
Ferbon Member Post Number: 47 Registered: 05-2012 |
...indeed, yet still even mentioning "idols" like tears of Mary, blood of Jesus, finger bone of St. John, communion bread etc. developed by sectarians and populated by thoughtless and primitive people is more sensational than logical. If they keep stuff like this in museums/ churches etc. for whatever reason, is for sensation prone - underdeveloped, confused individuals, who would pay! to see such fakeries. Unfortunately, scale of sensationalism and dumbing down is still quite overwhelming. | ||
Ramirez Member Post Number: 727 Registered: 06-2008 |
Hi Ferbon, What about slivers of the cross, holy grail, spear of destiny ....... they put all the trees in a tree museum, then charged the people a dollar and a half just to see em ..... Endorsements of a racket ..... props, just like statues of Mary, holy relic souvenirs .... the worship of material objects "representing" certain things which have become the substance of religion ..... a representation - substitution whereby a world of delusional fantasy is promoted as the real existence via fixations to objects material and beliefs imaginary .... the oldest con game in the book. I have been to the mountain and seen the light .... and the light revealed that ...... religion is a load of BS which growing numbers of persons are begining to realize and understand but where can they find information about alternatives ...... right here in this forum. It dont cost nothing, makes sense and there's no pressure of one sort or another to have faith and believe .... yes, no scary stories about an eternity of damnation or rewards of paradise because reality isn't based on black and white, rather shades of grey till finally at 100% use of intellectual faculties persons will really see the light ..... but that's some way off yet. Cheers. | ||
Ferbon Member Post Number: 58 Registered: 05-2012 |
Another personality to be aware of: V. Jechieli/ Yechiel ben Joseph of Paris - noted 1225 , died 1265/68, visited by Asket and Billy before disputation of Paris, called “defender of Judaism”, Berger (1998) writes "Whatever one thinks of the sincerity of the multiple Jesus theory, R. Yehiel found a way to neutralize some dangerous rabbinic statements, and yet the essential Ashkenazic evaluation of Jesus remains even in the text of this disputation." In 1260, Yechiel arrived and settled in Acre, Outremer, then ruled by the Crusader Kingdom of Jerusalem, along with his son and a large group of followers. (above historical info - from wiki, to be verified by Billy) Salome | ||
Treason Member Post Number: 6 Registered: 08-2012 |
Hey guys, is the Billy Meier's timeline on http://www.billymeierufocase.com/billymeiertimeline.html accurate? Especially the publishing dates of his books. | ||
Ramirez Member Post Number: 763 Registered: 06-2008 |
For the researchers ...... Lets take this statement from Future of Mankind site: Furthermore, the OM, canon 33, verses 102 and 103, reports the following text regarding the prophet of the New Age and his rebirth: Verse 102. And the son of man shall be in torment for a long time, and he shall be reborn in many lives as prophet; and he shall begin his mission on Earth as Enoch and return another time as Elijah, then as Isaiah, whom he shall follow as Jeremiah and Jmmanuel and then as Mohammed. Verse 103. And he shall be the prophet of the New Age, when the time of times will be ripe, and when his name shall say that he is the guardian of the treasure ... It is a known fact that Meier's full name is "Eduard Albert Meier'. The name Eduard is interpreted as follows by the Dictionary of First Names (Naumann und Goebel, 1987) OK, Billy Meier is the prophet of the new age, 7th in line via re-incarnation in that his spiritform has enlivened 7 persons labeled (known as) prophets. Taken from this page: http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Clarification_of_a_Defamatory_Claim ************************************************** Then you might wish to examine this from a question and answer: Link: http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/12/12258.html?1340597237 Joe Billy, if I may ask, how old approximately is your spirit and for how many years has your spirit been reincarnating here on Earth? About 9,600,000,000 years old, and since 389,000 years on Earth. I am seeking clarification of the above quoted figure of 9,600,000,000 is the correct age of Billy's Spirit Form-Scott There is a discrepancy. He shall begin his mission as Enoch (Henock) .... but ..... was Enoch around 389,000 years ago ?} Cheers. | ||
Corey Member Post Number: 297 Registered: 12-2009 |
Ramirez, The first prophet (out of seven) personality incarnation Henoch I (Enoch), the initiate was born 9308 BC and lived until 8492 BC, which means his birth was 11,320 years ago (source Nokodemion PDF/New TJ page 13) according to Earth years. It is my understanding that the point of origination of the Nokodemion spirit form to Earth 389,000 years ago, was that of the personality of the Old Lyran JHWH Semjasa (Adam's father), which was a former personality of Jmmanuel (new TJ page 15). Billy recently confirmed in the answers section that the Semjasa belonged to the Nokodemion spirit form and according to OM his activities on this planet were 389,000 years ago hence the point of origination... two different personalities of the same spirit form living at two different times here on Earth. No discrepancy. Salome Corey OM 32:2171 Die unschätzbarsten Schätze sind die Wahrheit, das Wissen, die Liebe und die Logik in Weisheit. The priceless treasures are the truth, the knowledge, the love and the logic in wisdom. |
